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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: wilts rover on December 06, 2023, 06:09:40 pm
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Rumours abounding that Robert Jenrick has resigned from whatever it is he was minister of and several others set to follow him. This will trigger more letters of no confidence in Sunak and pass the threshold for a no confidence vote on him.
And they are supposed to be running the country in a cost of living crises.
Vote Tory.
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Isn't it Schapp's turn to be PM , he must be due soon .
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Rumours abounding that Robert Jenrick has resigned from whatever it is he was minister of and several others set to follow him. This will trigger more letters of no confidence in Sunak and pass the threshold for a no confidence vote on him.
And they are supposed to be running the country in a cost of living crises.
Vote Tory.
If true Sunak will call an early election
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They look to be heading for the open full blown Tory civil war that's looked on the cards for quite a long time .
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Jenrick was behind these new immigration policies. He's a weaselly bas**rd. The one who cheated on the Towns Fund. The one who pushed through a planning application for a Tory donor.
I can see him doing this with the intention of getting on Team Braverman.
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It will be Kemi Badenoch
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Yvette Cooper has just asked Cleverly in the Commons if Jenrick has resigned. Cleverly refused to answer. Looks like he has then.
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Jenrick was behind these new immigration policies. He's a weaselly bas**rd. The one who cheated on the Towns Fund. The one who pushed through a planning application for a Tory donor.
I can see him doing this with the intention of getting on Team Braverman.
Apparently he wanted them stronger.
The reason Sunak was unable to make them stronger is that Rwanda said they would pull out of the agreement if they broke International Law!
This is what taking back control means. Rwanda can tell you what to do!
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Sunak is a dead duck milking his power to make as much for his elitist family before he's kicked into touch after the GE.
No reason for him to be calling an early GE. Tory meltdown comes after the GE. Too much thrashing it out before then could kill the party.
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confirmed by cleverly, jenrick gone.
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Hope he follows his fellow slime ball Zahawi into obscurity, but I somehow doubt it with him.
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Soggy biscuit time again.
Get the tea brewing again.
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General election now
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Jenrick was behind these new immigration policies. He's a weaselly bas**rd. The one who cheated on the Towns Fund. The one who pushed through a planning application for a Tory donor.
I can see him doing this with the intention of getting on Team Braverman.
Apparently he wanted them stronger.
The reason Sunak was unable to make them stronger is that Rwanda said they would pull out of the agreement if they broke International Law!
This is what taking back control means. Rwanda can tell you what to do!
I know this is a horrible, deliberately divisive policy designed to rile up racists, and in that sense it's serious.
However, this is very funny.
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General election now
Nobody's gone with him yet.
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With a reshuffle less than a month ago, the cards must be getting a bit sticky
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What was it Andy Warhol said? "In the future, everyone will be a Tory cabinet minister for 15 minutes".
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What was it Andy Warhol said? "In the future, everyone will be a Tory cabinet minister for 15 minutes".
You need to prepare yourself then.
What will you do in your 15 minutes of fame.
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Actually, I'd forgotten how disgusting Jenrick is. He's the minister who ordered the painting over of cartoon murals that staff had painted on the walls of a kids' room at an asylum centre because it gave too welcoming an impression.
Hopefully, tonight will be the last time that piece of shit has anything to do with running the country. Let him go and play out his vile power fantasies somewhere where real people aren't involved.
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I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but nobody is going to tell me they can look at his face and think "He's going to be a pleasant person, isn't he?"
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7750/production/_131944503_jenrick_epa.jpg)
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Where's Wolfie with the coup de grace.
He hates him more than I do.
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This is the line that historians will be discussing in 100 years time.
Sunak in his letter to Jenrick tonight, explaining why we can't just tell the courts to f**k off. (This is the real thing by the way - not made up.)
"The Rwandan government have been clear that they would not accept the UK basing this scheme on legislation that could be considered in breach of our international law obligations."
Stop and absorb that for a while.
That's the Government of Rwanda, a country in which 900,000 people were killed, many being chopped up with machetes in a civil war of barely believable horror a generation ago, having to lecture the UK Government on our obligations under international law.
What the f**king hell have we become under this disgusting rabble?
PS. In case it needs spelling out. This is what Sunak's letter did NOT say.
"I, as the PM of the United Kingdom, have been clear that I will not accept the UK basing this scheme on legislation that could be considered in breach of our international law obligations."
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Hope he follows his fellow slime ball Zahawi into obscurity, but I somehow doubt it with him.
He won't and he's doing his usual positioning move ( where's my Tweet when I need it )
Oh it's here
Hands face space
Black is White
Say anything to deflect
Say anything to stay in job he has (or better)
They all do it , that's why we have so many affected yet ineffective Ministers etc like Jenrick
Nice to see the most apt MP / Constituency partnership recognised.
MP for Newark and he's a 341625 for sure
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Where's Wolfie with the coup de grace.
He hates him more than I do.
Here , present and correct
Here's what he was guilty of and yet backed by Johnson.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/24/robert-jenrick-planning-row-the-key-questions-answered
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We can all look forward to son of Kinnock stepping up as future Immigration Minister.
Dig deep into the murky world of Welsh Labour Nepotism, Cronyism, and misuse of public funds.
Same shit under a different banner.
The blue gravy train is leaving govt.
The red gravy train is about to arrive.
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I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but nobody is going to tell me they can look at his face and think "He's going to be a pleasant person, isn't he?"
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7750/production/_131944503_jenrick_epa.jpg)
THIS ONE ISN'T MUCH BETTER !!
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I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but nobody is going to tell me they can look at his face and think "He's going to be a pleasant person, isn't he?"
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7750/production/_131944503_jenrick_epa.jpg)
THIS ONE ISN'T MUCH BETTER !!
AS WE ALL KNOW THE TORY "BOOBS" WILL BE REPLACED WITH MUCH BIGGER "LABOUR BOOBS"
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Just-in ......... senior tories have made covert approaches to George Santos. The hope is that Lord George Santos as leader will appeal to their followers and raise the party’s credibility stakes in the up-coming election.
Vote tory
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Speculation that Sunak might make the vote on the immigration policy a vote of "confidence" in the Govt. That would be inteteresting any Tory voting against loses the whip
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Sunak has now denied that is the case in his tetchy ptess confetence
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Braverman is going to make a speech later which will effectively be a call of no confidence in Sunak.
They must be running out of fans for the shiit to hit.
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Looks like a new Tory leader is on his way imminently, along with a party colour change.
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The party is spread too much, there's too many opposing views that no leader could actually fix. That's a good thing for our democracy even if it's bad for the party in power. Labour and the tories only work effectively when they are fighting each other, but both parties have issues with the wings of their party being so far apart. Right now the Tories have become what labour were and that's why they'll lose. Labour will take power and see a similar thing.
But, it's actually why to be in control the leadership choosing candidates is important and something Starmer's team have done really effectively. There's members of both parties with more in common than the parties opposite and it's largely what keeps our politics going.
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Never in my life did I imagine that I would see the day when a country like Rwanda cared more about abiding by International Law than my country does.
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Doesn't have the stones to make it a confidence vote. Embarrassing.
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Never in my life did I imagine that I would see the day when a country like Rwanda cared more about abiding by International Law than my country does.
Yep , who would believe it if they had bagged our 150 million quid and then found a get out clause or invent one
Will we ask for a refund ?
Worse still we send illegals there who they don't like but won't be able to send home but there is one place that has agreed to take them . The UK
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This is the line that historians will be discussing in 100 years time.
Sunak in his letter to Jenrick tonight, explaining why we can't just tell the courts to f**k off. (This is the real thing by the way - not made up.)
"The Rwandan government have been clear that they would not accept the UK basing this scheme on legislation that could be considered in breach of our international law obligations."
Stop and absorb that for a while.
That's the Government of Rwanda, a country in which 900,000 people were killed, many being chopped up with machetes in a civil war of barely believable horror a generation ago, having to lecture the UK Government on our obligations under international law.
What the f**king hell have we become under this disgusting rabble?
PS. In case it needs spelling out. This is what Sunak's letter did NOT say.
"I, as the PM of the United Kingdom, have been clear that I will not accept the UK basing this scheme on legislation that could be considered in breach of our international law obligations."
Not sure whether this should go here or in the Cover Versions thread.
https://twitter.com/RelentingTundra/status/1732725072375287905
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Hope he follows his fellow slime ball Zahawi into obscurity, but I somehow doubt it with him.
He won't and he's doing his usual positioning move ( where's my Tweet when I need it )
Oh it's here
Hands face space
Black is White
Say anything to deflect
Say anything to stay in job he has (or better)
They all do it , that's why we have so many affected yet ineffective Ministers etc like Jenrick
Nice to see the most apt MP / Constituency partnership recognised.
MP for Newark and he's a 341625 for sure
Come on Wolfie, he must have been fantastic in his last job, Sunack has needed to replace him with two, YES 2, ministers!
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I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but nobody is going to tell me they can look at his face and think "He's going to be a pleasant person, isn't he?"
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7750/production/_131944503_jenrick_epa.jpg)
THIS ONE ISN'T MUCH BETTER !!
AS WE ALL KNOW THE TORY "BOOBS" WILL BE REPLACED WITH MUCH BIGGER "LABOUR BOOBS"
Nowhere near as big as the humungous, pendulous boobs displayed by Jo Swinson though, CLH.
It's a shame she was as mad as a March hare.
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Tory supporters can rest their heads on the soft pillows of Penny Mordaunts “assets”.
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Never in my life did I imagine that I would see the day when a country like Rwanda cared more about abiding by International Law than my country does.
Yep , who would believe it if they had bagged our 150 million quid and then found a get out clause or invent one
Will we ask for a refund ?
Worse still we send illegals there who they don't like but won't be able to send home but there is one place that has agreed to take them . The UK
Sounds a bit like an internet scam?
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And this from Nick Robinson to Cruella this morning
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Well fmd it is an internet scam .....
''UK paid Rwanda an extra £100m for asylum deal''
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-67656220
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I met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporter
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Another little spat between Cruella and Rich-ie you wrote the cheque, no you wrote the cheque..... oh dear!
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Well fmd it is an internet scam .....
''UK paid Rwanda an extra £100m for asylum deal''
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-67656220
Jesus Christ, how much would we have given them if we didn't hold all the cards in the negotiations? :blink:
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I met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporter
I remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL are
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I met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporter
I remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL are
You telling me whatever you're saying you've told me must have been in one of your impenetrable word salad clusterf**ks because I have no idea who 'Justin Thyme' is, nor who is wife is and certainly no idea why I'd have the slightest need to know what her - or indeed anybody's - religion is.
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I met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporter
I remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL are
You telling me whatever you're saying you've told me must have been in one of your impenetrable word salad clusterf**ks because I have no idea who 'Justin Thyme' is, nor who is wife is and certainly no idea why I'd have the slightest need to know what her - or indeed anybody's - religion is.
Sadly "Mastermind" isn't for you :facepalm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KlIIHWn_rw8
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I heard a very small part of a sky reporter Beth's (Mrs Coleman heard her speaking the other day and thought she was a man til she saw her) interview last night
He said we didn't have children for politics ( having a right go at that conservative who was the leader of the labour party - and was also a failed rock star )
then he mentioned about supporting Arsenal and mentioned he is always home for friday night and prayers ( that could be why Arsenal have improved )..... when questioned on this he "moved around" on this point
November 16, 2020 14:05 Starmer: Our kids are being brought up to know their Jewish backgrounds
Labour leader tells Desert Island Discs of 'long tradition of family and faith'
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/starmer-our-kids-are-being-brought-up-to-know-their-jewish-backgrounds-1.508720
We do all know the children follow the religion of their Mother in such a case.
from wikipedia
Personal life
Starmer married Victoria Alexander in 2007.[221] She was previously a solicitor but now works in NHS occupational health.[5][222] The couple's son and daughter are being brought up in the Jewish faith of their mother and the family attend shabbat dinners.[9] Starmer himself stated he does not believe in God but does "believe in faith" and its power to bring people together.[223] Starmer is a keen footballer, having played for Homerton Academicals, a north London amateur team,[224] and supports Premier League side Arsenal.[5]
Starmer is a vegetarian, believing that "it's better for yourself and for the environment".[225]
listening to the whole interview goes onto my bucket list at least I learned somrething I didn't know about him
I didn't know that about his wife, not that I am particualy bothered.
I do know he used to be a keen supporter of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign - so he presumably has good knowledge of middle east and middle east politics from all sides.
I think he dropped out of PSC when some activists went a bit too far and the a/s problem kicked off under Corbyn
https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1460629248381788164
I am very surprised you didn't know that
thanks for that bit of info
i just googled.......... starmer palestine solidarity campaign there is lots of stuff ..... he married in 2007 so he should at that time known that " the women always get their way ... children wise in the end " but obviously his stance became untenable
at least he didn't become a Tottenham supporter (think about that one)
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-labour-party-starmer-silence-palestinian-solidarity-day
Starmer's change of heart
Before he became party leader, he was not known for his Zionist sympathies. As a former barrister specialising in international human rights, Starmer would have honoured the UN Day of International Solidarity with the Palestinian people without hesitation.
Since becoming party leader, Starmer has changed. He has embarked on a courtship of the Israel lobby, the antithesis to his earlier positions on Palestinian rights
His past record against the illegal Iraq war, his membership of Labour Friends of Palestine, and his condemnation of the Trump Middle East peace plan as "a farce, inconsistent with international law and human rights protections" all point him in that direction.
In 2015 he spoke at an election hustings on Palestine organised by Camden Palestine Solidarity Campaign, and later declared: “We can promote peace and justice around the world” against the backdrop of Stop the War campaigners holding Palestinian flags.
But since becoming party leader, Starmer has changed. He has embarked on a courtship of the Israel lobby, the antithesis to his earlier positions on Palestinian rights. In January 2020, he adopted the Board of Deputies' "Ten Pledges" without caveat.
These included the International Holocaust Remembrance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism that conflates antisemitism with anti-Zionism. This conflation has been at the heart of the antisemitism allegations against the Labour Party. Its aim to link criticism of Israel, and by extension support for Palestine, with "antisemitism" has so far been highly successful in hounding out these supporters.
Starmer now describes himself as a "Zionist without qualification" who believes in the state of Israel.
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While Starmer is fiercely schtum about his private life – hence his reticence to publicly name his daughter – we do know that his wife, originally from Poland, is Jewish, and that the couple's children are being raised in the Jewish faith. Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife's faith, saying: 'As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are bar mitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.'
https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoria
Time to repost this -- lest ye forget
in an earlier post after this we suddenly develop a previious hidden Doncastrian link to his wife.
perhaps he can spin it both ways !!! but politicians have to be pragmatists
While Starmer is fiercely schtum about his private life – hence his reticence to publicly name his daughter – we do know that his wife, originally from Poland, is Jewish, and that the couple's children are being raised in the Jewish faith. Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife's faith, saying: 'As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are bar mitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.'
https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoria
Interesting I was sure I'd read his wife was from Donny.
Here we go www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/the-doncaster-family-connections-of-labour-leader-sir-keir-starmer-3006047
"Sir Keir’s wife Victoria comes from Doncaster and his late mother in law Barbara lived in the town before her death earlier this year." From the man himself "I’m delighted that we’re here in Doncaster. My wife’s mum was born and grew up here – just next to the racecourse."
I guess the Polish link is on her Father's side
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I met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporter
I remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL are
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Bloody hell another failed Labour leader with links to Donny and in poor Keith's case the graveyard that is North London to go with the Donny link .
Best stick to Huddersfield and Edinburgh if I were you Labour luvvies .
Given Labour are at least a hundred years away from actually electing a woman it's probably worth sticking with the tried and trusted place of birth .
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I met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporter
I remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL are
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Look out, you'll get another impenetrable f**k-knows-what-he's-trying-to-say reply too!
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I met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporter
I remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL are
You telling me whatever you're saying you've told me must have been in one of your impenetrable word salad clusterf**ks because I have no idea who 'Justin Thyme' is, nor who is wife is and certainly no idea why I'd have the slightest need to know what her - or indeed anybody's - religion is.
Sadly "Mastermind" isn't for you :facepalm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KlIIHWn_rw8
I was happy enough doing Countdown and Fifteen-To-One.
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All three main political parties are old hat, done, dusted and outlived their usefulness, it is time for new kids on the block to come to the fore and sort a dysfunctional establishment out.
The electorate are ready for it, if anyone with charisma, straight talking, and willing to take the establishment in government and the civil service and local government on they will get a following.
The day of educated idiots running the show should be coming to a quick end.
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Gosh that sounds a bit like a Cummings outburst, selby.
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All three main political parties are old hat, done, dusted and outlived their usefulness, it is time for new kids on the block to come to the fore and sort a dysfunctional establishment out.
The electorate are ready for it, if anyone with charisma, straight talking, and willing to take the establishment in government and the civil service and local government on they will get a following.
The day of educated idiots running the show should be coming to a quick end.
And this is precisely how democracy ends. When bored, ignorant people want a charismatic leader to smash everything up.
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So, knowing that you hate the Conservatives, am I right in suggesting that you think that Labour is in a good place to sort things out?
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All three main political parties are old hat, done, dusted and outlived their usefulness, it is time for new kids on the block to come to the fore and sort a dysfunctional establishment out.
The electorate are ready for it, if anyone with charisma, straight talking, and willing to take the establishment in government and the civil service and local government on they will get a following.
The day of educated idiots running the show should be coming to a quick end.
And this is precisely how democracy ends. When bored, ignorant people want a charismatic leader to smash everything up.
Smash what up? There's f*ck all to smash. You've not sounded too happy with the state of the country for the last decade or so.
Wasn't Clem Atlee charismatic, straight talking, and willing to take on the establishment? Or John Smith for that matter. Surely you don't think that Starmer can compare with the likes of them.
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Clem Attlee? Charismatic? I've heard it all now!
You know the wisecrack from Churchill?
"An empty car pulled up outside No 10 and Clem Attlee got out."
Attlee was THE ultimate example of a politician who had virtually zero personality but just worked hard at the job. Some people these days want their politicians to be light entertainers, because they get bored actually thinking about the detail of running the country in a sensible, organised way.
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Maybe Scawsby Steve means Clem Atlee was charismatic compared to Keir Starmer?
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Clem Attlee? Charismatic? I've heard it all now!
You know the wisecrack from Churchill?
"An empty car pulled up outside No 10 and Clem Attlee got out."
Attlee was THE ultimate example of a politician who had virtually zero personality but just worked hard at the job. Some people these days want their politicians to be light entertainers, because they get bored actually thinking about the detail of running the country in a sensible, organised way.
OK, I'll let you have that one. Now what about taking on the establishment? Isn't nationalising almost everything taking on the establishment?
That's something Keith will never have the balls to do. Of course he pledged to do it when campaigning for the Labour leadership, but that's him all over.
No substance whatsoever.
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Don't you accuse my all time hero of having no personality BST.
I'll have you know he was noted for his dry wit and invented games to play with his kids.
Churchill (on the quiet) had a deep respect for him.
Introverted yes, lacking personality no.