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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Arsenal Of The North on December 12, 2023, 12:46:19 pm
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We are pleased to confirm that we will trial a new points-based ticket sales for our trip to Harrogate Town in January.
As Harrogate continue to renovate their stadium, we have been handed an allocation of 770 tickets for the fixture and expect demand to be very high.
Following discussions with the Supporters’ Club and the Shadow Board, it was agreed that a new ticketing system be introduced this season, with points allocated to supporters based on tickets purchased. The Supporters’ Club provided a generous donation for the facility to be introduced with our ticketing partners, SeatGeek.
The purpose of the system is to provide those who regularly travel to away fixtures, regardless of location or kick-off time, the best chance of securing a ticket to matches with limited allocations.
The Harrogate fixture on Saturday, January 6, 2024 provides the ideal opportunity to trial the system, with one of the smallest allocations the club will receive this season along with the close proximity of the two teams.
Season Membership holders will still receive priority for this fixture before members and general sale but an additional classification based on previous games attended this season will also be used.
Points are awarded as follows:
23 points are issued to all Season Membership holders on the purchase of their Season Membership
Ten points are issued to all Flexi Ten Ticket Membership holders
Five points are issued to all Flexi Five Ticket Membership holders
Two points are issued to all Supporter Members
One point is issued for any purchased cup match ticket
One point is issued for any purchased away league match ticket
One point is issued for any purchased home league match ticket
As the club currently operates a policy of named purchases only for away tickets with no transfers, points tracked should be accurate.
As of December 12, the club has played 20 league matches - ten home and ten away - and nine cup fixtures. Therefore, the maximum number of points a supporter could have gained to the date stated is 42 - 23 points for a Season Membership plus ten away league matches and nine cup matches).
Tickets for the Harrogate Town fixture will therefore go on sale as follows:
Monday, December 18 - 35 points or more
Wednesday, December 20 - 30 points or more
Friday, December 22 - Season Membership holders
Wednesday, December 27 - Supporter, Flexi, Club Doncaster Lottery and Young Reds membership holders
Wednesday, January 3 - General sale
Pricing details will follow in due course.
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Can see plenty of fans not being happy
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Sounds fair to me, priority has always been given to ST holders so then makes sense to give those who have been to more away games tickets first.
And I'm saying that as someone who probably won't get a ticket
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I'll kick the complaints off........
1 - surely (SURELY) the "system" should display the amount of points accrued? I.E - log into DRFC official account - under ticket history (or somewhere!) - it should clearly state "POINTS ACCRUED TO DATE" - this is going to be a headache for the Ticket Office staff
2 - so much for loyalty! I've been a STH since @1980 - continuous - where is there reward for that? Even if they started afresh with the new system (@ 5 years ago???)
I fully appreciate that those fans who travel, week in , week out & in the pouring rain etc should get 1st call but the system should factor in loyalty.
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I've been a STH since @1980 - continuous - where is there reward for that? Even if they started afresh with the new system (@ 5 years ago???)
Data won't go back far enough for this, and if it could this is would be a daft idea, as it would mean younger fans could miss out purely down to the fact they haven't lived as long as older fans.
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I've been a STH since @1980 - continuous - where is there reward for that? Even if they started afresh with the new system (@ 5 years ago???)
Data won't go back far enough for this, and if it could this is would be a daft idea, as it would mean younger fans could miss out purely down to the fact they haven't lived as long as older fans.
I agree with a reset every season, you would end up with people buying tickets just to keep up their score as such. See it at countless other larger clubs with big away followings and they just hoard tickets so they keep their points up for games where it really matters.
It seems fair enough to me, rewarding the proper die hard fans first, and so it should.
I may miss out on Harrogate tickets now, I’ll be disappointed, but the system should be designed to protect the fans who travel almost every week home and away.
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Good idea, could be used as an incentive for early ST renewals or renewals in general.
For example you get 5 points if you renew before the early bird end, 3 if you renew.
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Hopefully prevents some of the DH’s going this season it was toxic last season.
I’m biased but think it’s a fair method
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I'll kick the complaints off........
1 - surely (SURELY) the "system" should display the amount of points accrued? I.E - log into DRFC official account - under ticket history (or somewhere!) - it should clearly state "POINTS ACCRUED TO DATE" - this is going to be a headache for the Ticket Office staff
2 - so much for loyalty! I've been a STH since @1980 - continuous - where is there reward for that? Even if they started afresh with the new system (@ 5 years ago???)
I fully appreciate that those fans who travel, week in , week out & in the pouring rain etc should get 1st call but the system should factor in loyalty.
You don't need x years loyalty to be at the head of the queue.
How many away games have you been to this season?
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Sounds very fair to me.
There is no such thing as a 100% perfect system.
There will always be some that are not happy.
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I think it is an extremely fair way of doing this especially for this fixture
I have often thought (and said so.on here) that those people who travel every game or almost every game have hearts like lions
It is what they do and I for one would feel guilty if I took the Ticket from a regular away travel person just because I.have a Season Ticket
With a reduced capacity its going to be tight and even with 770 I might squeak in . Who knows but I will be happy either way
Do think.it would be a good idea to have a Score calculated and displayed somewhere so people would know when to apply
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I’ve received 2 e mails for my lad saying in one hr has enough for Monday and the other for Wednesday he should have 41 points. Would imagine the Ticket Office are snowed under currently
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Anyone that went to Accrington last Saturday should be given first dibs on any away ticket for the next 10 years, plus a lifetime of free hot Bovril
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My mate has always bought my away ticket this season. Ie Accrington just gone will it know I bought one as he had to provide my details?
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What if we happen to get Harrogate (or similar high demand game) as the first away fixture next season - everyone will be on the same points?
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Won’t it be hard for people who don’t get the chance to go to many away games to ……… go to some away games.
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Anyone that went to Accrington last Saturday should be given first dibs on any away ticket for the next 10 years, plus a lifetime of free hot Bovril
i can live with this lol
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Won’t it be hard for people who don’t get the chance to go to many away games to ……… go to some away games.
Alot depends on the allocation of course. I guess for many games it won't be an issue.
As one ST holder who's not been to an away game for sometime, it's very unlikely I'll put myself in a position to block someone else who attends away games more regularly, where the demand is likely to be higher than the allocation.
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At the end of the day, this is about going to an away game, so surely folk with the best record of going to away games must be head of the queue, if you barely go to any , or not at all, would you really care who went ahead of you in the queue?
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Anyone that went to Accrington last Saturday should be given first dibs on any away ticket for the next 10 years, plus a lifetime of free hot Bovril
same for the 192 brave souls who went to Crawley away on a Tuesday nite last season...
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At the end of the day, this is about going to an away game, so surely folk with the best record of going to away games must be head of the queue, if you barely go to any , or not at all, would you really care who went ahead of you in the queue?
I wouldn’t really care, but sometimes I just fancy going.
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At the end of the day, this is about going to an away game, so surely folk with the best record of going to away games must be head of the queue, if you barely go to any , or not at all, would you really care who went ahead of you in the queue?
Yes, but at the same time you wouldn't want to dismiss the privilege awarded to Season Members.
This provides that balance . How many away matches this season has there been so far when demand has outweighed the allocation?
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At the end of the day, this is about going to an away game, so surely folk with the best record of going to away games must be head of the queue, if you barely go to any , or not at all, would you really care who went ahead of you in the queue?
Yes, but at the same time you wouldn't want to dismiss the privilege awarded to Season Members.
This provides that balance . How many away matches this season has there been so far when demand has outweighed the allocation?
of course, but I'm kinda expecting the folk that go away automatically have an ST, so the deciding factor becomes the amount of away games done ahead of everything else, it's never gonna please everyone, but it looks as good a system as I can envisage.
As said before tho, how many games will this actually apply to?
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Harrogate aside, there are very few matches this will have any affect on.
When was the last time rovers regularly sold out away allocations?
It’s one of the joys of supporting a lower league club. You can get a ticket for 99% of games.
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Anyone that went to Accrington last Saturday should be given first dibs on any away ticket for the next 10 years, plus a lifetime of free hot Bovril
same for the 192 brave souls who went to Crawley away on a Tuesday nite last season...
Yep hands up I was there. Set off one Saturday got as far as Woodall Services at 9am and were turned round game off
Near to end of Season it was rearranged for a Tuesday. 5 and a bit hours going down 6 hours coming back
My a**e ached for a week . What a nightmare that was
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Same issue will arise at Grimsby.
A lot of people are more bothered about ticking grounds off so might be okay as they did it last season v Harrogate
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Anyone that went to Accrington last Saturday should be given first dibs on any away ticket for the next 10 years, plus a lifetime of free hot Bovril
same for the 192 brave souls who went to Crawley away on a Tuesday nite last season...
Four of which were my youngest son and three of his mates. Who all live in sw london. Rovers supporters are not just confined to Doncaster.
They went to Sutton, wimbledon, orient and Colchester also.
This system will prejudice them.
But as I’ve said, away tickets are usually always available.
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It's just for this one game - the description makes that clear. It sold out in less than an hour and a half last year so having a system that rewards loyalty for this one game is pretty reasonable.
It shouldn't be an issue for any other games - more tickets and less demand means everyone who wants one should get one. There's still plenty left for Notts County which is a localish derby against a team we've not played in a while on a bank holiday (as an example).
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Spoke to ticket office today.
E Mail was sent to all those with 30 points or more on Monday and another today for all those who have over 35 points and get first dibs on Monday and Tuesday.
I was told on Monday that I was only eligible for Wednesday purchase but now have been told it will be Monday when I can purchase as have over 35 points.
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I'm exactly the opposite having been told 30 to 34 points for me meant buy Monday
An hour later I got second email saying mistake had been made and now Weds for me.
Should be ok if first 2 days given over to those with 35 plus
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I'm exactly the opposite having been told 30 to 34 points for me meant buy Monday
An hour later I got second email saying mistake had been made and now Weds for me.
Should be ok if first 2 days given over to those with 35 plus
There will be plenty left on Wednesday Wolf. No way will we have 770 fans with 35 points or more.
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Good to know. I guessed so but does anyone know if Box Office have notified all people their approximate Points or are they on persons Box Office Account
I ask because I usually get the Tickets for 4 people and my Mate hasn't had a notification yet so the 2 of us might not be able to apply together this time
As far as I recall he missed only one away game that I attended but if I have an "estimated" 30 to 34 Points he may have 29 points so would be handy to know
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Agree it would be good if it was available on your profile - that said there is history of the tickets purchased in there to do a manual count
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I wonder if you can only buy individual tickets unless they are named against your account? If it's points based how could you go on and buy 4 tickets without them being assigned to an individual to check their pints tally....... or am I missing something?
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I wonder if you can only buy individual tickets unless they are named against your account? If it's points based how could you go on and buy 4 tickets without them being assigned to an individual to check their pints tally....... or am I missing something?
That sounds a good plan,check your pints tally. It might help in keeping some of the younger 1/2 pint lager louts away!
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I wonder if you can only buy individual tickets unless they are named against your account? If it's points based how could you go on and buy 4 tickets without them being assigned to an individual to check their pints tally....... or am I missing something?
Yes I have been getting Tickets for 3 , 4 or 5 people for several Seasons
We are all on each other's Accounts and I have to assign Tickets to each person I am buying for so I guess in their Ticket history those will be noted as roversdude said so can be counted to give a Points total
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I wonder if you can only buy individual tickets unless they are named against your account? If it's points based how could you go on and buy 4 tickets without them being assigned to an individual to check their pints tally....... or am I missing something?
That sounds a good plan,check your pints tally. It might help in keeping some of the younger 1/2 pint lager louts away!
last year at Harrogate the toxic environment was not caused by young kids ,but by middle aged men , I've still not had an email about the tickets
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Hopefully prevents some of the DH’s going this season it was toxic last season.
I’m biased but think it’s a fair method
The whole club had been toxic for 2 years and Schofield shouldn’t have been there for the Harrogate game (I think he knew he was going, and couldn’t be arsed anyway). It was a bit over the top but it had been boiling for months before. It didn’t help the dug out was no more than 10 yards from the fans either.
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Rich is correct the toxic atmosphere was centred around not kids but pi$$ed up blokes that I don’t recall being at any other away games
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Anyone any idea of how many 35+ point fans we have?
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Anyone (with enough points, obviously) been able to buy a ticket online yet?
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Not showing up yet 9am I guess
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Still nothing
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Nothing online for me either.
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Ticket office just engaged
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They are available online now.
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All live now guys
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Just bought mine online. Note that there are two separate terracing areas, and just a handful of seats.
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Anyone know how sales are going
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478 left.
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478 left.
After all this it will make general sale.
Don't think sales are going to well on Notts County and Mansfield either
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We must have some of the most fickle fans in the entire EFL.
Only turn up when we are winning and even then loads don’t bother.
Good job we have a solid base of fans who go through thick and thin because there has been more thin than thick over the years
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To be fair it only opened up to STH today
By the way just noticed this is a 1pm KO
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We must have some of the most fickle fans in the entire EFL.
Only turn up when we are winning and even then loads don’t bother.
Good job we have a solid base of fans who go through thick and thin because there has been more thin than thick over the years
Camps, you're making this out to be exclusive to Donny fans. It isn't. Fans all over the country are the same.
If you're winning and playing well, attendances home and away will be up. If you're losing and playing crap, they'll be down.
It's the nature of football.
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478 left.
After all this it will make general sale.
Don't think sales are going to well on Notts County and Mansfield either
I doubt it will make general sale - its still not open to just season ticket holders. I expect the remaining 400 or so tickets will sell out on Friday when those who don't have to have been to several cup/away games will get a chance to buy.
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475 left only 1 Seat
Well spotted roversdude. 1 pm KO went right over my head.
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We must have some of the most fickle fans in the entire EFL.
Only turn up when we are winning and even then loads don’t bother.
Good job we have a solid base of fans who go through thick and thin because there has been more thin than thick over the years
Camps, you're making this out to be exclusive to Donny fans. It isn't. Fans all over the country are the same.
If you're winning and playing well, attendances home and away will be up. If you're losing and playing crap, they'll be down.
It's the nature of football.
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You’re not wrong SS but I do think Doncaster fans are more fickle than most, I really do.
Don’t know what’s in the psychology of the Doncaster Football public but it’s definitely fickle when it comes to supporting their local club.
The attitude is so negative. Is Doncaster such a depressing place to live that makes people so negative?
Imo there are many towns and cities which are far far worse than Doncaster. I have been to many of them in my working life.
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We must have some of the most fickle fans in the entire EFL.
Only turn up when we are winning and even then loads don’t bother.
Good job we have a solid base of fans who go through thick and thin because there has been more thin than thick over the years
i have 35 PTS on the priority tally, but have decided not to do Harrogate, as we went last year, and have got a lot of other games planned plus Xmas expenses. Am I a fickle supporter?
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We must have some of the most fickle fans in the entire EFL.
Only turn up when we are winning and even then loads don’t bother.
Good job we have a solid base of fans who go through thick and thin because there has been more thin than thick over the years
i have 35 PTS on the priority tally, but have decided not to do Harrogate, as we went last year, and have got a lot of other games planned plus Xmas expenses. Am I a fickle supporter?
Now you’re being silly Adam. No of course it doesn’t. I didn’t go to Newport that was through choice.
Doesn’t make me fickle.
You know exactly what I mean. I don’t expect 6.000 Rovers fans wanting to go to away matches.
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We do have more fickle fans. We amassed a fair few 1000 fans from 2003 over that 10 year period that only were used to winning more than losing and getting promoted. Now the going has got tough a lot have binned it off.
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Lets face it . It costs a hell of a lot to travel to the likes of Newport on the Coaches and for the Ticket and for everything you eat and drink during the day
Contrast that with 10 quid to watch on I follow when available and you have to say the value is right there. The people who go to every away game have my undying respect . They have hearts like Iions.
Last Season I went to AFC Wombles , Sutton , Crawley , Barrow , Stevenage , Salford , Harrogate and Newport plus others and you know what kind of Season we had , poor and it was hard
Would I go to any of them , again . Yes Harrogate tickets bought already. As for the rest never again. I will watch on Ifollow
Does that make me a fickle fan ? I don't think so and I've been watching for as long as JR and I am gutted when we don't win and I'm used to us being ( by tradition ) a 3rd or 4th Division Club and I enjoyed immensely the Championship years with SOD but we are what we are
Unless someone commits Mega Millions to getting the Club upwardly mobile like a Brentford or a Bournemouth or Luton we will be in those 2 tiers and I'm afraid if people want success , then change your allegiance to MCFC or LFC because it won't happen here very often
Then look at American sport of any kind. The distances between Teams is vast , the travel costs with flights Hotels etc and Tickets is astronomical and so traditionally I guess you watch your Team at home but not away
Fickle ? No Pragmatic (practical) Yes
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We do have more fickle fans. We amassed a fair few 1000 fans from 2003 over that 10 year period that only were used to winning more than losing and getting promoted. Now the going has got tough a lot have binned it off.
When I say fickle what I am getting at is when we lose a game or 2 on the trot or have a really bad day as last Saturday then some of our supporters throw their toys out of the pram and decide not to go go again until we win.
How many that went to the game v Morecambe will not bother going v Bradford tomorrow. Even some with season tickets. There will be quite a few I suspect. In fact I have spoken to a season ticket holder this week and he says he probably won’t go tomorrow. Rather go out for a drink.
Now that’s what I call fickle.
Everyone is entitled to do what they wish of course but fickle fans we have and we have hundreds of them if not thousands.
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We do like other clubs have fickle fans maybe because we don’t attract thousands and thousands it shows up more - I guess there were more interested in getting bladdered than actually watching Rovers last year
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I reckon we haven’t a clue about other clubs and their fickle fans, because we don’t support them and don’t know what goes on in their clubs.
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When a fan buys a ST, he or she has supported the club financially for the whole season. Whether they turn up for the game is irrelevant, and there can be lots of reasons for that; lack of transport, illness, other commitments.
Also, when ST holders can't get to night games for whatever reasons, they often watch on iFollow, meaning they've paid the club twice over to watch the game.
The word "fickle" gets thrown about too much IMO. It's good news, by the way, for those that can't get tickets for the Harrogate game; the 1 pm KO means it will almost certainly be on iFollow.
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We do like other clubs have fickle fans maybe because we don’t attract thousands and thousands it shows up more - I guess there were more interested in getting bladdered than actually watching Rovers last year
Watching last season, getting bladdered probably helped considerably.
When a fan buys a ST, he or she has supported the club financially for the whole season. Whether they turn up for the game is irrelevant, and there can be lots of reasons for that; lack of transport, illness, other commitments.
Also, when ST holders can't get to night games for whatever reasons, they often watch on iFollow, meaning they've paid the club twice over to watch the game.
The word "fickle" gets thrown about too much IMO. It's good news, by the way, for those that can't get tickets for the Harrogate game; the 1 pm KO means it will almost certainly be on iFollow.
And the club obviously are ok with Season Ticket holders missing games as they count their attendance regardless of whether they take their seat.
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We do like other clubs have fickle fans maybe because we don’t attract thousands and thousands it shows up more - I guess there were more interested in getting bladdered than actually watching Rovers last year
Watching last season, getting bladdered probably helped considerably.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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When a fan buys a ST, he or she has supported the club financially for the whole season. Whether they turn up for the game is irrelevant, and there can be lots of reasons for that; lack of transport, illness, other commitments.
Also, when ST holders can't get to night games for whatever reasons, they often watch on iFollow, meaning they've paid the club twice over to watch the game.
The word "fickle" gets thrown about too much IMO. It's good news, by the way, for those that can't get tickets for the Harrogate game; the 1 pm KO means it will almost certainly be on iFollow.
SS if there is a genuine reason for not going then that’s not being fickle.
But not going just because we got beaten in the last game imo is being fickle.
Anyway think we have done this to death now.
We all have our own opinions don’t we. I have just given mine. No one has to agree with me if they don’t want. ;) :)
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Bet you wished you hadn’t put that CR lol
I’m sitting down at Harrogate just in case the DHead brigade manage to get tickets
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Whether season ticket holders turn up or not is massively relevant.
Would be a good look if all our 4.500 season ticket holders didn’t bother to turn up.
Yes they have paid their money but a 15.000 stadium with 2.000 attending would be really great.
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Bet you wished you hadn’t put that CR lol
I’m sitting down at Harrogate just in case the DHead brigade manage to get tickets
See you there possibly :thumbsup:
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We do like other clubs have fickle fans maybe because we don’t attract thousands and thousands it shows up more - I guess there were more interested in getting bladdered than actually watching Rovers last year
Watching last season, getting bladdered probably helped considerably.
When a fan buys a ST, he or she has supported the club financially for the whole season. Whether they turn up for the game is irrelevant, and there can be lots of reasons for that; lack of transport, illness, other commitments.
Also, when ST holders can't get to night games for whatever reasons, they often watch on iFollow, meaning they've paid the club twice over to watch the game.
The word "fickle" gets thrown about too much IMO. It's good news, by the way, for those that can't get tickets for the Harrogate game; the 1 pm KO means it will almost certainly be on iFollow.
And the club obviously are ok with Season Ticket holders missing games as they count their attendance regardless of whether they take their seat.
And the club would be really happy if we played in an almost empty stadium.
How would the players feel about that.
As roversdude said “ Bet your really pleased you started this “
Wish I had not bothered. :facepalm:
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Bet you wished you hadn’t put that CR lol
I’m sitting down at Harrogate just in case the DHead brigade manage to get tickets
Don’t think there will be too many if any. It won’t be like last season. Hopefully. :)
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Bet you wished you hadn’t put that CR lol
I’m sitting down at Harrogate just in case the DHead brigade manage to get tickets
Me too .... early Parking tips required rqd .... are you sorted yet pls and where
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We can have a VSC Posters party in the Seats. Who do we know who just won 2 bottles of wine lol
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Got mine this morning, still 201 left for ST holders. We're behind the goal. Should be a much more positive atmosphere - last year was the outpouring of a lot of pent up frustrations that boiled well over the top.
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I'd decided not to go on satdi due to attending a lot of other away games recently, but after yesterday, I'm contemplating joining the mad rush tomoz at 9am...
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Is it 9am they go on sale? Already have mine but want one for someone else?
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Bet you wished you hadn’t put that CR lol
I’m sitting down at Harrogate just in case the DHead brigade manage to get tickets
Me too .... early Parking tips required rqd .... are you sorted yet pls and where
Sorry DW completely missed that, I think you’re sorted aren’t you ?
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Is it 9am they go on sale? Already have mine but want one for someone else?
general sale tomorrow morning I believe...