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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Nudga on December 26, 2023, 04:55:04 pm
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Where is it?
I've seen more aggression in my daughters teddy's.
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Every pass is a clearance
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Not sure he has enough players with the mindset or fitness to be able to do this.
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Every pass is a clearance
This tends to be by necessity.
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Our lack of physical presence is quite something to see. It's hard to imagine that you could pick 11 players out of a hat at random and not have a single one that sets anything like a physical challenge for the opposition.
It's a total and utter embarrassment. I'm genuinely ashamed to be watching my club out in such physically pitiful performances.
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Not sure he has enough players with the mindset or fitness to be able to do this.
It was THE screamingly obvious lack last season. How the f**k can you spend the thick end of £1m on the wage bill.and end up with THAT?
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Not sure he has enough players with the mindset or fitness to be able to do this.
It was THE screamingly obvious lack last season. How the f**k can you spend the thick end of £1m on the wage bill.and end up with THAT?
Because Blunt thought it was a good idea giving Coppinger a job leading on recruitment either as HoFO or HoR when he knew nothing about either. We could have brought in someone competent instead.
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I've been a big fan and supporter of McCann but I feel that the honeymoon period is well and truly over.
His January recruitment has got to be much better than his summer one.
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Our lack of physical presence is quite something to see. It's hard to imagine that you could pick 11 players out of a hat at random and not have a single one that sets anything like a physical challenge for the opposition.
It's a total and utter embarrassment. I'm genuinely ashamed to be watching my club out in such physically pitiful performances.
I agree with every word of this although, you have backed Ben Close this season with statistics and he has consistently robbed a wage off this club since the day he signed. He is by far one of the worst culprits for hiding when the chips are down. At no point when we have been beaten has he ever looked a class above and we could say he played well. He single handedly epitomises what is/has been wrong with this clubs recruitment.
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It's virtually half way through the season and folk now choose to blame
the clubs recruitment??
Seems clear any confidence the players had has been shot. Had McCann been able to change things around a bit more it might have helped but we can't get away from the fact our injury list has left us woefully short.
When confidence has gone, players are bound to look weary and leggy. Especially when things go wrong in matches which they inevitably do.
The weaknesses we already knew about, get amplified. This is the same cycle we've seen in recent seasons.
We'd better hope McCann can get hold of these players and talk to them individually and try to rescue something from this rut. We can't clear out the whole team in January. Of course, we do need help from somewhere but it will need some clear thinking going forward.
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The only answer left is to clear out as much as possible in January. McCann will sort it but needs funds and the power to be very radical.
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McCann is still the man ?
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Our lack of physical presence is quite something to see. It's hard to imagine that you could pick 11 players out of a hat at random and not have a single one that sets anything like a physical challenge for the opposition.
It's a total and utter embarrassment. I'm genuinely ashamed to be watching my club out in such physically pitiful performances.
I agree with every word of this although, you have backed Ben Close this season with statistics and he has consistently robbed a wage off this club since the day he signed. He is by far one of the worst culprits for hiding when the chips are down. At no point when we have been beaten has he ever looked a class above and we could say he played well. He single handedly epitomises what is/has been wrong with this clubs recruitment.
Hiding? He’s the midfielder who constantly gets on the ball the most. 50 touches today. Biggins had 13 (THIRTEEN) in the 60mins he was on.
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McCann is still the man ?
Without a doubt.
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Our lack of physical presence is quite something to see. It's hard to imagine that you could pick 11 players out of a hat at random and not have a single one that sets anything like a physical challenge for the opposition.
It's a total and utter embarrassment. I'm genuinely ashamed to be watching my club out in such physically pitiful performances.
I agree with every word of this although, you have backed Ben Close this season with statistics and he has consistently robbed a wage off this club since the day he signed. He is by far one of the worst culprits for hiding when the chips are down. At no point when we have been beaten has he ever looked a class above and we could say he played well. He single handedly epitomises what is/has been wrong with this clubs recruitment.
Hiding? He’s the midfielder who constantly gets on the ball the most. 50 touches today. Biggins had 13 (THIRTEEN) in the 60mins he was on.
He had more touches than Biggins. What a player.
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McCann is still the man ?
Without a doubt.
Absolutely. And with Blunt gone let’s see what January brings.
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Our lack of physical presence is quite something to see. It's hard to imagine that you could pick 11 players out of a hat at random and not have a single one that sets anything like a physical challenge for the opposition.
It's a total and utter embarrassment. I'm genuinely ashamed to be watching my club out in such physically pitiful performances.
I agree with every word of this although, you have backed Ben Close this season with statistics and he has consistently robbed a wage off this club since the day he signed. He is by far one of the worst culprits for hiding when the chips are down. At no point when we have been beaten has he ever looked a class above and we could say he played well. He single handedly epitomises what is/has been wrong with this clubs recruitment.
Hiding? He’s the midfielder who constantly gets on the ball the most. 50 touches today. Biggins had 13 (THIRTEEN) in the 60mins he was on.
Can't wait for when Biggins leaves, he's absolutely shite.
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McCann is still the man ?
Without a doubt.
Absolutely. And with Blunt gone let’s see what January brings.
People keep talking about a January overhaul. We need to be careful here that we don’t get saddled with yet more shite and carry an even more bloated squad into the summer and beyond.
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McCann is still the man ?
Without a doubt.
Absolutely. And with Blunt gone let’s see what January brings.
People keep talking about a January overhaul. We need to be careful here that we don’t get saddled with yet more shite and carry an even more bloated squad into the summer and beyond.
Some think McCann taking control of recruitment will only bring brilliant, season changing signings but forget he signed Master Gomes.
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McCann is still the man ?
For me, yes he is.
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McCann is still the man ?
Without a doubt.
Absolutely. And with Blunt gone let’s see what January brings.
Coppinger is one who has to go - but no fans want to really admit that. He's Head of Recruitment and like the managers who preceded McCann, has zero experience in the role. Love Coppinger, but he's effecting his legacy continuing in this role.
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McCann is still the man ?
Without a doubt.
Absolutely. And with Blunt gone let’s see what January brings.
Coppinger is one who has to go - but no fans want to really admit that. He's Head of Recruitment and like the managers who preceded McCann, has zero experience in the role. Love Coppinger, but he's effecting his legacy continuing in this role.
Sadly I think I agree with you.
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Butler, McSheffrey, Coppinger.
Lee Carsley as mentor in midst of relegation battle.
Biggins "knows the area".
3yr contract to Jon Taylor >>> out for 3yr.
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Why Copps .. though I agree he’s played his part , Schofield Mcann have both been left playing catch up for past mistakes . Unless you build a reason for players to gain points in a game …?they will just stroll about without fear of the sack ! Either throw £ by way of larger win bonuses put them on the transfer list and take the hit !!
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Why Copps .. though I agree he’s played his part , Schofield Mcann have both been left playing catch up for past mistakes . Unless you build a reason for players to gain points in a game …?they will just stroll about without fear of the sack ! Either throw £ by way of larger win bonuses put them on the transfer list and take the hit !!
I just think when you have a finite budget, you really need a savvy Head of Recruitment who will be able to find those diamonds in the rough. Not also-rans who end up underperforming for us and costing us money in wages we still have to pay. Sentiment got Copps the role. I don't think sentiment though is a good enough reason for him to continue. I hate saying it as Coppinger is Rovers through and through.
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It must all be a dream when McCann came in an assured the fans 'they will be my signings'. No it's not a dream, he clearly made that (or similar) statements several times. Why he is ascribed no responsibility whereas Schofield got absolutely berated by the fans makes no logical sense.
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Blunts gone so Copps is the latest scapegoat?
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McCann saying players shooting too high. Undone by crosses, which has become a problem for us.
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Blunts gone so Copps is the latest scapegoat?
Neither have been scapegoats, Baz. They've just both been poor at their remits.
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Blunts gone so Copps is the latest scapegoat?
When he was appointed HoFO people said he wasn't the right appointment, it's not a new thing.
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It must all be a dream when McCann came in an assured the fans 'they will be my signings'. No it's not a dream, he clearly made that (or similar) statements several times. Why he is ascribed no responsibility whereas Schofield got absolutely berated by the fans makes no logical sense.
Out of the players playing at the minute, McCanns signings equate to around half the starting line up.
And they are the ones doing their best amongst the shite around them.
Ironside, Bailey, senior, Nixon, sterry! Are not the problem.
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It must all be a dream when McCann came in an assured the fans 'they will be my signings'. No it's not a dream, he clearly made that (or similar) statements several times. Why he is ascribed no responsibility whereas Schofield got absolutely berated by the fans makes no logical sense.
I don’t think that’s the case. I think quite a few people on here have put the responsibility for where we are on McCann.
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Blunts gone so Copps is the latest scapegoat?
When he was appointed HoFO people said he wasn't the right appointment, it's not a new thing.
So what's the point in going over old ground?
For a start, we don't know for sure which of the more recent recruits were McCanns or Copps' 'signings' or maybe both?
We can debate until the cows come home about our recruitment in the past and all those potentially involved.
More recent changes have been made. Changes also made on the fitness side of things but haven't really had chance to take effect.
Even before today, before Bradford, before Morecambe, we know McCann needs time to work through this, so there's no point changing the agenda and the focus on what's needed.
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Sick of hearing about Moore, Butler, Schofield, McSheffrey. There are changes at the club to put things right at this time, going over old ground is counter productive & has been done to death. Sounds like McCann has felt the wrath of some of our supporters today, their money, their choice. McCann has reiterated in his interview this is now going to take a while to sort out. I'm with him all the way. Just thankfull he won't chuck the towel in & is up for the challenge, more than can be said for some of the players.
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Blunts gone so Copps is the latest scapegoat?
When he was appointed HoFO people said he wasn't the right appointment, it's not a new thing.
So what's the point in going over old ground?
For a start, we don't know for sure which of the more recent recruits were McCanns or Copps' 'signings' or maybe both?
We can debate until the cows come home about our recruitment in the past and all those potentially involved.
More recent changes have been made. Changes also made on the fitness side of things but haven't really had chance to take effect.
Even before today, before Bradford, before Morecambe, we know McCann needs time to work through this, so there's no point changing the agenda and the focus on what's needed.
“What’s the point in going over old ground?”
Accountability? Learning lessons? Not being doomed to make the same mistakes over and over and over again?
Nah let’s just stick our head in the ground because we’re all Rovers fans aren’t we.
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Blunts gone so Copps is the latest scapegoat?
When he was appointed HoFO people said he wasn't the right appointment, it's not a new thing.
So what's the point in going over old ground?
For a start, we don't know for sure which of the more recent recruits were McCanns or Copps' 'signings' or maybe both?
We can debate until the cows come home about our recruitment in the past and all those potentially involved.
More recent changes have been made. Changes also made on the fitness side of things but haven't really had chance to take effect.
Even before today, before Bradford, before Morecambe, we know McCann needs time to work through this, so there's no point changing the agenda and the focus on what's needed.
“What’s the point in going over old ground?”
Accountability? Learning lessons? Not being doomed to make the same mistakes over and over and over again?
Nah let’s just stick our head in the ground because we’re all Rovers fans aren’t we.
Nobody's sticking their heads in the ground. It's about the hear and now, not about 6 months ago 12 months ago, 24 months ago. Different managers, different coaches, different scouts, different h3ads of recruitment, different medical teams back then. All those changes to where we are now, are based on decisions of accountability and trying to learn those lessons. Unless you want to compound previous mistakes by making another huge one by sacking yet another manager?
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Well look at it this way , at least GM isn't going to do one on you like he did the last time for the foreseeable .
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It must all be a dream when McCann came in an assured the fans 'they will be my signings'. No it's not a dream, he clearly made that (or similar) statements several times. Why he is ascribed no responsibility whereas Schofield got absolutely berated by the fans makes no logical sense.
Out of the players playing at the minute, McCanns signings equate to around half the starting line up.
And they are the ones doing their best amongst the shite around them.
Ironside, Bailey, senior, Nixon, sterry! Are not the problem.
100%. Went to the game today, first live game for a very long time. I’ve watched pretty much every match on IFollow for last 3 years.
I watched a lot of the players off the Ball.
At the end of the game there weren’t too many positives but I saw Sterry, Senior and Nixon giving some real effort + if only Molly could finish
The players offering very little on that pitch today were Biggins,Anderson,Olowu,Close.Rowe looked disinterested.
Special mention to Flint put more effort than the two centre backs put together.