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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on December 26, 2023, 05:05:56 pm

Title: Set up not to win today
Post by: Filo on December 26, 2023, 05:05:56 pm
Questions must be asked how we set up today, we were lucky to lose 3-0, that should have been a right hammering!
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: GazLaz on December 26, 2023, 05:14:58 pm
I liked the shape actually. Bit of a box 4 in midfield. I saw the thinking behind it. We just kept getting deeper and deeper before they scored. Some of the players are just so poor. Biggins had had 7 touches in the first 35mins when I looked. Anderson and Olowu were poor. They just look petrified to defend positively and keep a decently high line.

Trying a narrow, compact 4 at the back vs Mansfield is now the only option. We can’t play a three again. Why, when your centre halves are all bang out of form, put three of them in the team? Makes no sense. Easier getting cohesion between 4 that it is 5 also.
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: Canadian Rover on December 26, 2023, 05:17:23 pm
I liked the shape actually. Bit of a box 4 in midfield. I saw the thinking behind it. We just kept getting deeper and deeper before they scored. Some of the players are just so poor. Biggins had had 7 touches in the first 35mins when I looked. Anderson and Olowu were poor. They just look petrified to defend positively and keep a decently high line.

Trying a narrow, compact 4 at the back vs Mansfield is now the only option. We can’t play a three again. Why, when your centre halves are all bang out of form, put three of them in the team? Makes no sense. Easier getting cohesion between 4 that it is 5 also.

Bang on Gaz!! The defence and the midfield sat way too deep though and I doubt that was the instructions.
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: Pliskin on December 26, 2023, 05:28:57 pm
Utterly shit tactics. Against a team like that you need to get after them and disrupt what they're trying to do.

We just stood in our own half waiting to get f**ked. Absolutely sickening approach to a game against a team in our own league.
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: In the box on December 26, 2023, 05:29:30 pm
Questions must be asked how we set up today, we were lucky to lose 3-0, that should have been a right hammering!
IS…McCann is struggling in getting the players do their jobs ?
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: monkeytennis on December 26, 2023, 05:35:14 pm
Questions must be asked how we set up today, we were lucky to lose 3-0, that should have been a right hammering!
IS…McCann is struggling in getting the players do their jobs ?

Seems so. They’re either not listening or not capable of doing what he asks.
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: normal rules on December 26, 2023, 05:42:18 pm
Questions must be asked how we set up today, we were lucky to lose 3-0, that should have been a right hammering!
IS…McCann is struggling in getting the players do their jobs ?

Seems so. They’re either not listening or not capable of doing what he asks.

I do wonder if some have had the writing on the wall shown to them behind the scenes. There is a feeling he has lost some of the dressing room .
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 26, 2023, 05:43:59 pm
I suspect there are some players who've been told they aren't in his plans and some who won't have liked the riot act.  Find me a fan who would disagree with the manager slating the players or wanting many of them gone.
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: ncRover on December 26, 2023, 05:45:24 pm
When are Faulkner and Grandpa back?
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: In the box on December 26, 2023, 05:49:21 pm
Imo bringing in the odd signing in January will not change the lack lustre performances of many of these players . Too many of them are content to waste possession and leave there mates chasing a hopeless  long ball or not backing them up when playing through the midfield or out in the wings by overlapping to draw defenders out of position!!
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: Bills view on December 26, 2023, 06:01:23 pm
What I don't get is that there were signs of progress. Games were far more enjoyable.

BUT the wheels appear to have come off and it feels like we're back where we have been for the last 2-3 years.

Confidence looks shot.

Radical clear out might be best for all parties.
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: i_ateallthepies on December 26, 2023, 06:07:48 pm
What this shows me is that when McCann is able to field his team without being impeded by injuries he has us competing, entertaining and progressing.  No team will win games when only four or five on the field are up to standard and that is what we have presently with the injury situation.
Title: Re: Set up not to win today
Post by: ForsolongaRover on December 26, 2023, 06:15:16 pm
Imo bringing in the odd signing in January will not change the lack lustre performances of many of these players . Too many of them are content to waste possession and leave there mates chasing a hopeless  long ball or not backing them up when playing through the midfield or out in the wings by overlapping to draw defenders out of position!!

They did not seem to even try a simple pass, it was always a speculative boot upfield, particularly in the first half.

The players who have shown promise in the past seemed to be content to just do the minimum which does suggest that they are no longer playing for their manager which seems difficult to believe, but the evidence can’t be ignored.

It is a deplorable when it is obvious that so many of the players are not good enough to “know better”.