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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: drfcsteve on January 13, 2024, 05:07:38 pm
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A serious question. If it were not for Forest Green and Sutton we’d be scrapping to stay out the conference (and we still might be!)
This is after we appoint a proven league 1 manager at the start of the season and let him bring in a load of new players, which he has then bolstered in January.
We have heard we do not have a 5th from bottom budget, far from it in fact with many teams in the division having far less to play with.
People have blamed poor recruitment which is fair but how many players has McCann now brought in himself? How many more will it take to stop the rot?
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13 shots by rovers, 1 on target. Newport 5 shots 1 on target (goal)
Rovers ability to put the ball in the net when it counts is one big issue .
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Poor finishing and a severe allergy to clean sheets.
Piss poor recruitment for years, spending money hand over fist on past it journeymen and young kids on the basis that they are triers who know the area.
Absolutely no clue on football strategy whatsoever from the board.
Apathetic dwindling fanbase.
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I’m not sure we can take much notice from today’s result or performance; four debutants who are going to take time to adjust to the system and tactics. That said it was dull as dishwater.
It was a smash and grab and neither team deserved to win. This team needs loads more time and we need a far smaller squad to help in that process.
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Didn’t go today. Perhaps we need to wait till summer. Think GM will sort it, let’s get this season out the way.
At least we are creating chances. Sterry, Senior and Faal not in the squad. Hopefully GM is just resting them.
It is what it is at the mo, and I am not saying that’s ok. We just need to keep the faith and support them
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Seems we still have an inability to defend or put the ball in the net despite McCann bringing in 13(?) new players. Is the answer just more time? Depressing to write off the season in January.
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Just maybe we will start getting positive results soon to push on for next season
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Before Christmas still people talking about a play off push.
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Mis management and lies at board level takes years to turn around.
We are only in the process of slowing the decline, it's not stopped yet.
For example, blunt saying we will have the budget to "bounce back decisively"
But recently it comes out as being 14th best in league 2 !
If they lie to the fans, wonder what lies they tell the players ?
No wonder they can't be arsed to play.
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TS - didn’t take long :turd:
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13 shots by rovers, 1 on target. Newport 5 shots 1 on target (goal)
Rovers ability to put the ball in the net when it counts is one big issue .
Didn't Rovers have 5 on target?
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TS - didn’t take long :turd:
I'm not wrong though am I?!
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TS - didn’t take long :turd:
He's not wrong about Blunt though, is he.
Three years of Blunt's austerity is the reason we're now fighting to retain our EFL status.
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Same as last week, don't take chances and give away soft goals. There were some positives today, Jones and McGrath two of those and Hurst looked sharper when he came on.
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A serious question. If it were not for Forest Green and Sutton we’d be scrapping to stay out the conference (and we still might be!)
This is after we appoint a proven league 1 manager at the start of the season and let him bring in a load of new players, which he has then bolstered in January.
We have heard we do not have a 5th from bottom budget, far from it in fact with many teams in the division having far less to play with.
People have blamed poor recruitment which is fair but how many players has McCann now brought in himself? How many more will it take to stop the rot?
It makes wonder what do they do in training every day ? The team has no coherent tactics from front to back it’s just not linking up .McCann has to look to a plan B and more simplified way of playing . It’s about results and his playing from the back is just not competitive and is too slow over all .
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To me, we are just too one paced. We don’t really have quick players in pace, passing or speed of thought. There’s no spark. We were very predictable today. It was only Ironsides endeavour that created any opportunities on the whole today.
We are still very weak in midfield. Close was ok. The new lad Craig was steady but no better. And Broadbent didn’t offer much. Molyneux on the other hand stunk the place out.
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Before Christmas still people talking about a play off push.
The manager was talking about the play offs only this week…
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To me, we are just too one paced. We don’t really have quick players in pace, passing or speed of thought. There’s no spark. We were very predictable today. It was only Ironsides endeavour that created any opportunities on the whole today.
We are still very weak in midfield. Close was ok. The new lad Craig was steady but no better. And Broadbent didn’t offer much. Molyneux on the other hand stunk the place out.
Agreed. These signings were made to provide more legs and at no point did we play with any intensity. Craig looked lost and Broadbent I fail to see what we have signed there and Molyneux must have paid McCann to keep him on.
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I thought we had a million pound cash injection? And one of the biggest squads in the league? Yet our manager (the lord, the saviour) is apparently beyond criticism.
The recent meet the owners was interesting. Baldwin said we're in this position because of finances. TB kind of implicitly seems to now accept the same thing and wants a more hands on approach. So, by my reckoning, previous seasons really have been a club issue, but this season we're clearly underperforming on the pitch.
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The manager is well overrated.
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I’m not sure we can take much notice from today’s result or performance; four debutants who are going to take time to adjust to the system and tactics. That said it was dull as dishwater.
It was a smash and grab and neither team deserved to win. This team needs loads more time and we need a far smaller squad to help in that process.
Four debutants !!!! Why do you think he’s brought them into the club , is it perhaps that McCann’s not getting the results he’s responsible for ?
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I thought we had a million pound cash injection? And one of the biggest squads in the league? Yet our manager (the lord, the saviour) is apparently beyond criticism.
The recent meet the owners was interesting. Baldwin said we're in this position because of finances. TB kind of implicitly seems to now accept the same thing and wants a more hands on approach. So, by my reckoning, previous seasons really have been a club issue, but this season we're clearly underperforming on the pitch.
Is he beyond criticism? I feel like he’s had a fair bit of criticism online, and in the ground at various points. Were you at Notts County?
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I’m not sure we can take much notice from today’s result or performance; four debutants who are going to take time to adjust to the system and tactics. That said it was dull as dishwater.
It was a smash and grab and neither team deserved to win. This team needs loads more time and we need a far smaller squad to help in that process.
Four debutants !!!! Why do you think he’s brought them into the club , is it perhaps that McCann’s not getting the results he’s responsible for ?
I would suggest that is because the majority of the players that were already here before McCann got here are simply not good enough. Our worst players are easily the ones that have been here for a good while.
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Time and new players seems to be most people’s thoughts, so how much more time and how many more players?
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13 shots by rovers, 1 on target. Newport 5 shots 1 on target (goal)
Rovers ability to put the ball in the net when it counts is one big issue .
Hmmmmm
Ironside has 2 shots on target which the keeper knew nowt about and somehow stopped it going in…
Hurst had one too
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13 shots by rovers, 1 on target. Newport 5 shots 1 on target (goal)
Rovers ability to put the ball in the net when it counts is one big issue .
Hmmmmm
Ironside has 2 shots on target which the keeper knew nowt about and somehow stopped it going in…
Hurst had one too
Molyneux had one in the first half too which forced a very good save by the keeper.
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13 shots by rovers, 1 on target. Newport 5 shots 1 on target (goal)
Rovers ability to put the ball in the net when it counts is one big issue .
Hmmmmm
Ironside has 2 shots on target which the keeper knew nowt about and somehow stopped it going in…
Hurst had one too
Molyneux had one in the first half too which forced a very good save by the keeper.
I stand corrected. 13 shots. 5 on tgt. My mistake.
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Years of lies, getting everyones hopes up when in reality behind the scenes they have little to zero interest at all.
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The overall picture has been talked about for years now. Clubs got a bit lost and is now trying to get back to been a serious football club. It’ll take time unfortunately.
If we look at what’s going wrong in the here and now I’d say our midfield is a big part of all our problems. Ok we’ve signed the lad from Spurs who may well come good. But we’re basically the same in there as last season quality wise. No surprise results have worsened since Westbrooke go injured.
If we can make further signings in jan they have to be in midfield and for summer we need to get that right. Playing in a team when your centre midfielders are better than the oppositions lifts everyone’s game so much. Under SOD we were often so dominant in that area the rest of the team were basically L1 players but we could still get results.
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My worry is Grant might decide to walk before the end of the season if this carries on.
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My worry is Grant might decide to walk before the end of the season if this carries on.
If what carries on?
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Good job we’ve a HoF to make sure we’re not beholden to the whims of the latest manager… oh wait we gave up on that after appointing a club legend to the role instead of hiring the real deal.
That says a lot about why we are where we are. Realised we had an issue too late. Identified a solution. Fumbled, took the cheap option or just half arsed the delivery of the solution. Then weren’t brave enough and gave up at the 1st failure and hired the last person who did a good job in the role.
So however many years after McCann left the club is much worse off with none of the structural issues solved. If he did walk it would just be so obvious how we’ve gone full circle.
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My worry is Grant might decide to walk before the end of the season if this carries on.
He needs to rebuild his managerial reputation. Getting sacked by P’boro (who then climbed to play offs), guiding us to 20th then giving up wouldn’t get him the calibre of job he would be happy with.
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This is one of my worries, we’ve lumped all our eggs in one basket with McCann presuming it would work, because why wouldn’t it. But for whatever reason it isn’t working at all. Playoffs was the aim and we’re 20th.
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McCann wouldn't be going anywhere unless we give him a push. If he fails here he's SPL bound or back to NI even.
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I’m not sure we can take much notice from today’s result or performance; four debutants who are going to take time to adjust to the system and tactics. That said it was dull as dishwater.
It was a smash and grab and neither team deserved to win. This team needs loads more time and we need a far smaller squad to help in that process.
Four debutants !!!! Why do you think he’s brought them into the club , is it perhaps that McCann’s not getting the results he’s responsible for ?
I would suggest that is because the majority of the players that were already here before McCann got here are simply not good enough. Our worst players are easily the ones that have been here for a good while.
How many players will it take for McCann to find form . It’s fairly clear now it’s next season he’s got in mind, but he’s going to loose a lot of support if things don’t start showing potential upfront .Ironside was getting used to playing along side Faal and both contributed to recent results but that’s 50%!of the potential left to get 100% of the goals !!
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A big concern now must be season ticket sales for next season.
Not only will these poor performances / results not be helping, but I think there was a decent extra amount sold this season due to GM’s return, the “significant investment” and JR’s PR push on season ticket sales.
I suspect many of those won’t renew again after what we’ve seen so far this season
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There again we could head to a Wembley final.
How’s that for a season ticket boost?
Win the TinPot and avoid relegation = not so bad season after all.
Hang on, I’ve just woken up…
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A big concern now must be season ticket sales for next season.
Not only will these poor performances / results not be helping, but I think there was a decent extra amount sold this season due to GM’s return, the “significant investment” and JR’s PR push on season ticket sales.
I suspect many of those won’t renew again after what we’ve seen so far this season
There are when you read on here that would buy no matter what the results and their called supporters . Imo we needed a Billy Sharp type signing to provide a lift . As some of the new players are just journey men !!
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A big concern now must be season ticket sales for next season.
Not only will these poor performances / results not be helping, but I think there was a decent extra amount sold this season due to GM’s return, the “significant investment” and JR’s PR push on season ticket sales.
I suspect many of those won’t renew again after what we’ve seen so far this season
There are when you read on here that would buy no matter what the results and their called supporters . Imo we needed a Billy Sharp type signing to provide a lift . As some of the new players are just journey men !!
So what would be your budget, fee and wages, for such a player? Sell that notion to TB what it will cost to attract a player to us and be that talisman we need?
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A big concern now must be season ticket sales for next season.
Not only will these poor performances / results not be helping, but I think there was a decent extra amount sold this season due to GM’s return, the “significant investment” and JR’s PR push on season ticket sales.
I suspect many of those won’t renew again after what we’ve seen so far this season
There are when you read on here that would buy no matter what the results and their called supporters . Imo we needed a Billy Sharp type signing to provide a lift . As some of the new players are just journey men !!
No more journeymen!! Bramall please sign… Billy Sharp
:mad: :mad:
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I heard that Billy talked to Derby but was asking for silly money.
If Derby can’t afford him then we certainly can’t.
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The club as been spluttering on 2 cylinders for almost 3 years, big shake up and plan D needed
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One of the things that occurs to me is that maybe McCann is taking a while to work out how to play with rubbish players. He’s never managed at this level so has no experience with players of this standard.
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McCann has taken a risk in rejoining us in L2 for sure. He’s had no previous experience of managing in the division and the ideas/methods that brought him managerial success previously won’t necessarily work with this group.
I still don’t feel that he’s put his mark on the squad; he probably needs to churn another 10-15 players before he can truly claim ownership. And then he has to make that group tick.
Clough, arguably the best manager in the division, has been trying for 3 years and still not managed to get promoted. It takes some doing!
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If I was in his position i would consider walking, what with all the stick he gets on here !!! Jesus give the man time and be what your supposed to be supporters meaning support the team through good and bad times, it's easy to jump on the bandwagon when we are winning
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He’d consider walking because people are asking questions about why we’re 20th when we wanted playoffs?
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McCann gets probably the least stick of any manager I can remember on here. If he's that bothered (he isn't) he should look back at some of the pelters Schofield got.
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If GM walked we would be in trouble. He is a manager knows he has got things wrong. Give him time to get the players out that he knows can’t follow instructions. I believe he will have us pushing for promotion next season with TB backing. I know we all wanted it this year but we support DRFC.
All them years ago applying for re-election etc. we have come a long way and can again.
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My worry is Grant might decide to walk before the end of the season if this carries on.
Well that would certainly suit Copps is Magic, keith79 (is that your I.Q.?), TonySoprano & co.
Grant out they say. Who the f**k do they think would take up the mantle then?
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The question is "What is the problem?" but the simple truth is that many of us know what the problem is, but no-one dare say it because of the hostile reaction from the same people who have to constantly express their own opinions. There are a handful of posters on this site who just have to post on every thread because they have no other life and argue for the sake of arguing. And so the question goes unanswered.