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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Chris Black come back on January 13, 2024, 05:33:09 pm
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Loan ended.
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Thanks for your time. We move on. Think GM might look at getting another forward in now
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Just don’t see the point when he’s playing games and getting experience.
What’s he going to do, go sit on a L1 bench?
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Very lazy out of possession and took an absolute age to get the ball under control and make a decision on what to do with it.
Took his goals well though and not a disaster loan.
Will this free up some budget for another permo signing?
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Wouldnt be suprised to see him back at another league 2 club, and probably bag 1 against us.
Whats WBA reason for it? Because it wont be that they need him for tge 1st team
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It was faal’s decision.
Going to another club, probably a league 2 side
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Really his decision? Always thought he seemed to be enjoying his time at the club. What changed that?
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Just watched grant talk about it on twitter (X). Mo said he wanted to stay as they talked after Peterborough game. On Thursday grant got miss calls from his agents. Friday Mo said he wanted to leave, didn’t say anything and walked out the office. What a prick
My lad just messsaged me that. Good riddance I say then.
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Really his decision? Always thought he seemed to be enjoying his time at the club. What changed that?
With Waters and Carty coming in he probably saw that he won't fit GMs preferred system.
Maybe GM was asking him to do stuff that's not in his game, like pressing defenders quickly.
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It was faal’s decision.
Going to another club, probably a league 2 side
That would explain his drop off in performances the last 4 or 5 games
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It was faal’s decision.
Going to another club, probably a league 2 side
How do you know that?
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Just watched grant talk about it on twitter (X). Mo said he wanted to stay as they talked after Peterborough game. On Thursday grant got miss calls from his agents. Friday Mo said he wanted to leave, didn’t say anything and walked out the office. What a prick
My lad just messsaged me that. Good riddance I say then.
Shock horror.
Is your lad with inside knowledge? No.
Imagine a young footballer wanting to better his career after being played out of position recently.
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Just watched GM's interview about it. Gotta say Faal has acted like a prick on this one. Didnt even discuss his change of mind from after saying he wanted to stay after the peterbrough game to jusr saying im off.
Even grant said to him that i suppose your going to a league 1 club and he just didnt answer him. Sounds like another league 2 side to me.
Even WBA was happy for him to stay her
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Can't grumble at him, we aren't going to challenge and he'll know if there's other options that he may think are better.
He's a loanee not a lad from Doncaster, can't expect much different. If we were third in the table I'd complain but we aren't.
He had a good run, not a disastrous signing, but also a player who's been very poor the last month or so, maybe he didn't want to be here, that might make sense.
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You absolute tosser IR. He let me know so I just put it on here for the ones that maybe don’t have twitter/x like me.
Why can’t people just be thankful or not say anything rather than be condescending.
Careful Thorney you might get criticised for comments like that just as I did
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There are only 4 worse moves he could make in the football league. If he thinks he can go and play his way into any of the 87 clubs above us then good luck to him. Why should we expect him to play in this shower of sh!t team because he is playing games?
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There are only 4 worse moves he could make in the football league. If he thinks he can go and play his way into any of the 87 clubs above us then good luck to him. Why should we expect him to play in this shower of sh!t team because he is playing games?
In fairness he's as culpable as his team mates. He's cost us quite a few goals at times (Mansfield).
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Good player and seemed to be a nice lad, good with media and so on… however If what Grant has just said on radio Sheffield is true, that is poor from all who have advised him.
Not for leaving that is his, his agent or WBA choice, but to do it in the manner he has, is disrespectful to Grant and DRFC who have given him this spotlight.
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F**k him. Good riddance if he doesn’t want to play for us. Don’t need characters like that.
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He's been rubbish for a while, time to move on.
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He’s been playing like he didn’t want to be here for the last few weeks.
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Let’s face it he’s far too good for us at the moment, if someone has offered him a better opportunity fair enough, you just want him to be honest about it.
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Thought he was good going forward but awful in our box, think he will be missed as offered us something different
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Let’s face it he’s far too good for us at the moment, if someone has offered him a better opportunity fair enough, you just want him to be honest about it.
He really isn't far too good for us. Proper lazy Kitson who did f**k all out of possession.
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The club has given him his first stint in mens football in the efl. Probably got more game time than what was ever expected. Was loved by the fanbase. Seemed to get on very well with his fellow teamates.
His parent club will be over the moon with this first half of the season. Its seasons like this can toughen a player up.
If i was WBA i would be pissed at him. He has literally said when the going gets tough "i'll down tools and f**k off instead of rolling up the sleeves and turning it around".
If he wanted to leave or wasnt happy then he could of done the honest thing and sat down with the manager and had a proper conversation about it
I hope for him he doesnt go to another league 2 club and flop.
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Firstly I wouldn’t blame some people if they boo him if he comes up against us. To show disrespect that he has shown.
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There are only 4 worse moves he could make in the football league. If he thinks he can go and play his way into any of the 87 clubs above us then good luck to him. Why should we expect him to play in this shower of sh!t team because he is playing games?
In fairness he's as culpable as his team mates. He's cost us quite a few goals at times (Mansfield).
Name the rest?
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f**k him, a disrespectful way to behave, and has been rubbish the last 4 or 5 games, good riddance if thats his attitude!
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Loan ended.
Obviously felt unappreciated when he sees McCann bringing in new forwards . McCann clearly has not got ALL the players on his side !!
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Clubs now do a lot of due dilligence when signing a player..I hope for his sake his career gets to a stage where that matters for him..personally I think he was overated and don't expect him to be anything other than a lower league player anyway.
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Sounds like he was happy before his agent's got in his ear, then he's handled the rest badly, he's only a young lad let's not forget.
Disappointing but hey ho, we move on.
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Loan ended.
Obviously felt unappreciated when he sees McCann bringing in new forwards . McCann clearly has not got ALL the players on his side !!
Well that’s a shocking attitude to have if that’s the case.
But I very much doubt it
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Sounds like his agent has been in his ear. Perhaps wants to play more central? Suspect he’s probably been told he can get a move that will enhance his stock for either a move/better contract. Walsall I’ve heard would secure him a move closer to home.
Taking a step back he is a young lad. Did quite well for us on the whole and always worked hard while on the pitch. Wish him all the best and hope it works out for him
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Loan ended.
Obviously felt unappreciated when he sees McCann bringing in new forwards . McCann clearly has not got ALL the players on his side !!
Unappreciated???
Does he not expect to play in a team that have back up forwards? Apart from goodman whose not ready we had nobody else. Dont try and find a reason to make grant as the bad pwrson in this. Clearly Mo doesnt have the spine for a fight
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Probably never liked getting beat every week
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Sounds like his agent has been in his ear. Perhaps wants to play more central? Suspect he’s probably been told he can get a move that will enhance his stock for either a move/better contract. Walsall I’ve heard would secure him a move closer to home.
Wouldn't surprise me - and they just happen to be the only team we have to play twice in the rest of the season :headbang:
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Might he have thought he'd get less game time with the new recruitments?
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Dissapointed to hear this, as i liked him, but lets not forget Grant did similar himself in his first spell at the club. Unfortunately its football. Its a blow but hes not irreplaceable. He looked very leggy last few games, and im not sure he would fit in McCanns preferred system.
Hopefully Waters will be more than an adequate replacement, and i liked what i saw from him today.
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I like Faal and think he has the potential to have a good career. However, he's not yet ready for the Championship and it sounds like WBA were in agreement with this. I imagine he'll end up at a different L2 club which seems like an unnecessary risk by moving clubs mid-season.
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He was a part of us being 19th in the fourth tier.
But I’m sure a greasy agent will put a spin on it.
Good luck to him and thank god after McGrath’s performance today we won’t see the silly and cringeworthy end of game celebrations with Olowu again after a rare win.
Hopefully Olowu is next out, with a couple more.
Felt for the team today they deserved a bit more.
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Seems the lad's as unpredictable off the field as much as he is on it.
If he doesn't want to be here best that he leaves.
Decent up front but hopeless recently out on the left. First touch like and elephant - will never make it at West Brom unless he works hard on improving it.
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There are only 4 worse moves he could make in the football league. If he thinks he can go and play his way into any of the 87 clubs above us then good luck to him. Why should we expect him to play in this shower of sh!t team because he is playing games?
In fairness he's as culpable as his team mates. He's cost us quite a few goals at times (Mansfield).
Name the rest?
I forget which one but there was a home game where he left the man run right past him and they went up to score. McCann subbed him off a minute or so later. He's a lot to learn defensively.
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Whether he's been headstrong or not, it's not a good look for McCann or the club.
I said tongue in cheek after either the Mansfield, or Bradford game, his body language was like "get me out of here" but you would have hoped WBA would have said he's got to take the rough with the smooth and get on with it. It sounds a bit iffy if he or his agent are dictating things above his parent club. Then again, WBA have a duty of care to look after their player.
I'm not normally one to speculate wildly but you also wonder if he knows Olowu is on his way out, he's decided he doesn't want to be part of it anymore.
Either way, it's extremely disappointing as he's got bags of potential.
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For a young loan player he did well, but didn't look too good for our level or anything like that.
Didn't strike me as a McCann type player either really. It's hard to press high up the pitch when you've got someone like him who just jogs about.
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I’m not sure how much potential he has. League one / Scottish premiership?
But Waters’ first touch is twice as good and he’s never played above league 2 level.
I genuinely think Faal will end up as a box to box type midfielder. His attributes are better suited to that. Like what happened to Joelinton at Newcastle.
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From what I've seen of him (admittedly not at lot) not a huge miss.
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So everyone’s slagging Faal off for being disloyal because of what McCann’s said post match, the facts are he’s got a better offer, maybe he’s not handled it greatly but surely McCann if anyone should understand this predicament.
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I honestly can't blame him for wanting to leave.
Yes, perhaps he could have done it better.
But a football career is very short, and this stage of his career is crucial as to what kind of career he'll have.
He camt waste it at our outfit.
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You absolute tosser IR. He let me know so I just put it on here for the ones that maybe don’t have twitter/x like me.
Why can’t people just be thankful or not say anything rather than be condescending.
Careful Thorney you might get criticised for comments like that just as I did
What the fack?
Any reason to be so offensive?
Have I said I think you're an absolute cnut?
What a surprise you've had a like from one of a similar vein.
Don't be so offensive you idiot.
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I honestly can't blame him for wanting to leave.
Yes, perhaps he could have done it better.
But a football career is very short, and this stage of his career is crucial as to what kind of career he'll have.
He camt waste it at our outfit.
That post couldn’t be more of a Tony soprano post if it tried
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Do I blame him for wanting a fresh challenge? No, which footballer would want to be in a 20th position league 2 team with terrible form, not many.
By the sounds of things, he hasn’t handled it well on his end, football business I guess can be fickle, who knows what bridges he’s burnt, imagine this will go against any character checks on him in the future.
With mo, he was frustrating, not a brilliant first touch, but has raw ability. Best of luck to him. We move on as we do with all loans.
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I remember when we used to claim we were one of the most desirable clubs in the country to send young players on loan to. We backed it up as well, it was evidenced by the quality of players we could bring in under McCann and Moore.
Now we're getting big timed by half decent players who don't want to be here. It's another sign of how much we've slipped in recent years.
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IR yawn yawn yawn
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I thought some of his play was quite embarrassing to be frank.
For every time he shielded the ball and played it wide to a team mate, there were four times where he stumbled over the ball and lost possession.
No loss.
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Was never a big fan personally. Did an OK job at best while he was here.
I expected him to stay for the season. He hasn't, so what. We will bring someone else in and carry on.
No animosity towards him from me.
Young lad, may have been poorly advised who knows? But so what? All the best to him.
I won't be booing him if he comes back in another colour......unless he does and Adebayour style celebration when he undoubtedly scores against us!!!
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We missed him dropping back into midfield today, in lots of games he has been our most creative player, today that was completely missing.
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Another aspect that struck me was the way Grant took it . When you get a string of disappointing results and a loanee turns his back on you in such a way it takes a strength of character to react like our manager does .
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In a choice between Faal or Waters, I’d pick Waters every time. Didn’t rate Faal, we’ve replaced him with better already.
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Waters for me was a replacement for Marsh, Carty replacement for Roberts. So unfortunately Faal as decided his future lies elsewhere therefore will we bring in another player.
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If his agent is directing him on another loan option, then it does sound like he doesn't have a future at WBA. If they saw him as a long term prospect, they are going to be picking and choosing loans for development, based on style of play, where Faal would be playing, game time etc. Having your agent involved in a loan move suggests there is a permanent contract linked to the next move, even if on loan first.
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Another aspect that struck me was the way Grant took it . When you get a string of disappointing results and a loanee turns his back on you in such a way it takes a strength of character to react like our manager does .
I suspect GM’s version was watered down for the camera’s
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Not sure why, but I’ve a feeling he may end up at Peterborough on a permanent deal, in replace of JCH.
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I think he’ll end up on loan at Walsall
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A few flashes of brilliance but frustrating how often he lost the ball, teams had him sussed
Poor if he’s done this against the wishes of WBA
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Strange that a young development footballer is would be allowed by his parent club to decide his own loan placements. Surely more to this story than Grant has said.
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Maybe his agent has been touting him out for a permo because WBA might have seen that he isn't and more than likely never will be prem/champ standard.
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I think he’ll end up on loan at Walsall
He was at their game yesterday so it looks likely
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Who can blame him - he gets dogs abuse from the idiots in the crowd.
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Shot his own career in the foot, can't hack being told what he needs to do, he will be found out wherever he goes now.
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I don’t know anything but if he is going to Walsall, maybe he has things outside of football that he needs to be home for, or it is better for him to have his family around him.
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I don’t know anything but if he is going to Walsall, maybe he has things outside of football that he needs to be home for, or it is better for him to have his family around him.
And that im sure grant would understand, if he sat down with grant and explained all this prior then its no issues. But he stated after the peterborough game that he wanted to stay, then over a short time he just walks in to his office and says im off with no explanation.
Thats not a good look for him.
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He will soon find out that supporters seldom forget.... If he has valid reasons then fair enough, but be up front and don't screw over the manager/supporters/club and expect it to be alright.
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Whilst we speculate about a permanent move, do you think he is one we should have been pushing to sign?
Although, you would have thought if that was a possibility, his agent/WBA would be alerting us to that?
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If he’s going to Walsall things just don't add up, we are told West Brom were happy for him to stay and were disappointed in his actions, then yesterday he was at the Walsall game. I just can’t see how his agent can hold so much say over a contracted player and decide where his next move is going to be, as I say things just don’t add up
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Of course he might have gone to the Walsall game for other reasons, perhaps it is close to his home and one or two Walsall players are pals of his.
He might be joining them but we are guessing right now.
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He will be replacing Draper at Walsall. They play two up top which will suit more than playing side for us.
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It’s a three way agreement between us, Mo and WBA if the player decides he doesn’t want to be here then there’s nothing us or WBA can do. There appears to have a been a two week cooling off period and Mo with his agent have told us and WBA he wants to go elsewhere now it’s up to them to find
him another club in this window. It could be Walsall as Gaz says Draper as returned to his parent club.
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It’s a three way agreement between us, Mo and WBA if the player decides he doesn’t want to be here then there’s nothing us or WBA can do. There appears to have a been a two week cooling off period and Mo with his agent have told us and WBA he wants to go elsewhere now it’s up to them to find
him another club in this window. It could be Walsall as Gaz says Draper as returned to his parent club.
Going on his recent performances, he decided in December he didn’t want to be here, and we all just assumed he had too much game time for a young lad, attitude stinks
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I think that Faal (or most likely his agent) has heard McCann's comments in regards to having 6 attackers and rotation, and probably thought that this will cut his game time and end up being Ironsides back up.
Shame to see him go but hopefully McCann can maybe bring in a replacement.
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He ambled about aimlessly too often for my liking. The past 6 games he was totally anonymous. No great loss in my opinion.
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Officially announced has joined Walsall on loan.
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My dad sums him up well IMO. Like Bambi on ice with the ball at his feet.
I suspect travel has something to do with his decision . Best of luck Mo. And thanks for that headed goal at London Road . It certainly made the freezing cold day out worthwhile
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Officially announced has joined Walsall on loan.
Well that certainly didn't take long. A bit sad from all sides really.
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We play Walsall on 2 March away - could be interesting if he plays.
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Still got to play Walsall at home as well.
It’s one of those things. Seems likely that location was a factor. It certainly sounds as if it could’ve been handled much better though.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned but surely the change in system played a part as well? Faal looked the part when playing two up top with Ironside but his decline in form has coincided with him being shunted wider, a role which clearly didn’t really suit him.
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Walsall is 5 miles from West Bromwich .
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I think this has been in the pipeline before he said he wanted out and WBA already had this lined up, despite what they said about being happy for him to stay here
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I thought he was a decent player for us and with Ironside up top they had potential to be a handful. We should have been more direct imo to get the best out of them. Think we underused what should have been a good article force for the level.
Don’t get the issue people have here with him leaving though. What kind of loyalty can we really expect from a loan player. It’s bad enough with contracted players if they want out but loanees literally have no stake in the club other than putting themselves in a shop window.
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He's gone now and got sorted somewhere else. Time to move on surely, he was only on loan after all.
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Walsall is 5 miles from West Bromwich .
Top marks Graing, I think you’ve solved this mystery. If it wasn’t for those meddling kids…etc.
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I thought he was a decent player for us and with Ironside up top they had potential to be a handful. We should have been more direct imo to get the best out of them. Think we underused what should have been a good article force for the level.
Don’t get the issue people have here with him leaving though. What kind of loyalty can we really expect from a loan player. It’s bad enough with contracted players if they want out but loanees literally have no stake in the club other than putting themselves in a shop window.
I don't think it's the fact he has gone, it's more the manner of his departure..... why tell GM one thing and then do the opposite?
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Wish him well, got a horrible feeling he’ll do us on crosses, mind you we’ve got McGrath now.
Liked his unpredictability, brilliant one minute, Bambi like the next.
He was our best defender of crosses when he dropped back, though that wasn’t difficult next to the chuckle brothers.
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If only we had some mesters at the back who could smash him in the first 5 minutes and let him know he's in a game.
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If only we had some mesters at the back who could smash him in the first 5 minutes and let him know he's in a game.
McGrath and Faulkner
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Wish him well, got a horrible feeling he’ll do us on crosses, mind you we’ve got McGrath now.
Liked his unpredictability, brilliant one minute, Bambi like the next.
He was our best defender of crosses when he dropped back, though that wasn’t difficult next to the chuckle brothers.
You just know our fans will boo him, and then he'll score against us and rub it in. I'd put money on it.
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Wish him well, got a horrible feeling he’ll do us on crosses, mind you we’ve got McGrath now.
Liked his unpredictability, brilliant one minute, Bambi like the next.
He was our best defender of crosses when he dropped back, though that wasn’t difficult next to the chuckle brothers.
You just know our fans will boo him, and then he'll score against us and rub it in. I'd put money on it.
I'll be on the bet when comes in just to hopefully lose it
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Gone to Walsall
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How did sheff u get on with that appeal
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Gone to Walsall
has he?
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Gone to Walsall
has he?
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-transfer-latest-loan-striker-links-up-with-league-two-rivals-after-controversial-return-to-championship-club-4480088
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Hearing Faal has gone to Walsall.
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Gone to Walsall
has he?
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-transfer-latest-loan-striker-links-up-with-league-two-rivals-after-controversial-return-to-championship-club-4480088
I was being ironic, I hope you were..?
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Gone to Walsall
has he?
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-transfer-latest-loan-striker-links-up-with-league-two-rivals-after-controversial-return-to-championship-club-4480088
I was being ironic, I hope you were..?
Who's Faal ;)
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Wallsfaal?