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Title: Stockport Fans
Post by: roversdude on January 28, 2024, 10:15:56 am
Top of the League just down the road and only brought half a stand of fans. That was poor especially when they are playing so well
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: drfcsteve on January 28, 2024, 10:22:46 am
Only an hour on the train direct and a pretty much gaurenteed win for them, thought they'd be out in big numbers.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: drfchound on January 28, 2024, 10:34:07 am
They had more than half a stand full there.
Not seen any official figures but surely it was around 2000.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 28, 2024, 10:45:27 am
1625 away.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: drfchound on January 28, 2024, 10:48:04 am
Fair enough but there looked to be more.
I will take a bigger abacus next time.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 28, 2024, 10:50:32 am
We had (noting the usual season ticket point) 5900 home, which seems decent these days.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 28, 2024, 10:59:05 am
1625 away.

We took as many last season and were rubbish to watch.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: pib on January 28, 2024, 11:55:14 am
We’re averaging about 5800 home fans this season I think, as of the last time I checked. Whilst I think we could and should be pulling more fans in if things were going better, I think our support has held up fairly well considering what we’ve endured in the last 3 years.

You can see the signs of the more casual supporters’ patience running out now though. Not selling out Mansfield away, only just selling out 700-odd at Harrogate, and we might not sell out 1100 at Grimsby at this rate.

Unless we have a really positive end to the season I fear there will be a noticeable drop-off in attendance next season. We really need something to happen to re-invigorate our support.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Jimmydee on January 28, 2024, 02:48:00 pm
We’d sold over 900 for the away game at Bradflord last week, I know that there will be few getting a refund because it’s probably rearranged for a Tuesday night, but there will be people that can go regardless but don’t want to see more of that crap that we witnessed yesterday.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: StockportHatter on January 28, 2024, 02:54:33 pm
We sold out what we had been allocated the week before last. We then got given a couple hundred extra on Tuesday and sold those.

I don't know why we were only allocated 1700 but all those tickets sold.

The direct train wasn't running, rail replacement buses for a huge section of the journey. The only route by train was to go via Huddersfield and that takes 3.5 hours.

I know someone who goes to almost every away game by train, he got a coach.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: drfcsteve on January 28, 2024, 02:59:15 pm
People are human at the end of the day and like to enjoy their weekend. It’s only natural the crowd will go up a couple of thousand if/when we ever challenge at the top end of the division again.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: DearneValleyRover on January 28, 2024, 03:07:00 pm
We sold out what we had been allocated the week before last. We then got given a couple hundred extra on Tuesday and sold those.

I don't know why we were only allocated 1700 but all those tickets sold.

The direct train wasn't running, rail replacement buses for a huge section of the journey. The only route by train was to go via Huddersfield and that takes 3.5 hours.

I know someone who goes to almost every away game by train, he got a coach.

You would have been given what you asked for
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: StockportHatter on January 28, 2024, 03:10:52 pm
We sold out what we had been allocated the week before last. We then got given a couple hundred extra on Tuesday and sold those.

I don't know why we were only allocated 1700 but all those tickets sold.

The direct train wasn't running, rail replacement buses for a huge section of the journey. The only route by train was to go via Huddersfield and that takes 3.5 hours.

I know someone who goes to almost every away game by train, he got a coach.

You would have been given what you asked for

Quite probably. But that doesn't change the fact that we sold out what we were given. If you think we should have had more then blame our club not asking for more, not our fans who sold our allocation.

Certainly no direct trains will have played a part in any decision making there.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: roversdude on January 28, 2024, 03:59:53 pm
Got to admit I was gobsmacked (and disappointed)at how few Stockport fans there were, probably knew they would get 3points without needing fans help.
Think that end holds more than 3000 so only half full
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: DearneValleyRover on January 28, 2024, 04:01:44 pm
Got to admit I was gobsmacked (and disappointed)at how few Stockport fans there were, probably knew they would get 3points without needing fans help.
Think that end holds more than 3000 so only half full
3,300
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: StockportHatter on January 28, 2024, 04:22:06 pm
Got to admit I was gobsmacked (and disappointed)at how few Stockport fans there were, probably knew they would get 3points without needing fans help.
Think that end holds more than 3000 so only half full

I would love to know how more of us could have gone without more tickets?
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: roversdude on January 28, 2024, 04:47:57 pm
Rough maths over 1500
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: silent majority on January 28, 2024, 07:25:52 pm
Got to admit I was gobsmacked (and disappointed)at how few Stockport fans there were, probably knew they would get 3points without needing fans help.
Think that end holds more than 3000 so only half full

I would love to know how more of us could have gone without more tickets?

We’ve never restricted the away end to less than 2000, never ever. If you had sold out the away allocation we can always make extra seats available on an adjacent block giving a total of over 4,000 seats.
The problem would be with your club.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: StockportHatter on January 28, 2024, 07:37:32 pm
Got to admit I was gobsmacked (and disappointed)at how few Stockport fans there were, probably knew they would get 3points without needing fans help.
Think that end holds more than 3000 so only half full

I would love to know how more of us could have gone without more tickets?

We’ve never restricted the away end to less than 2000, never ever. If you had sold out the away allocation we can always make extra seats available on an adjacent block giving a total of over 4,000 seats.
The problem would be with your club.

And? I'm not saying the problem wasn't our club's decision (although neither of us can know for certain, for all we know it could have been a police call). I'm asking how we can possibly have brought more than we had tickets? We sold out the initial allocation on either the 16th or 17th. We then got another couple hundred on the 23rd which then also sold out. You can't criticise our fans for not coming when we sold as many tickets as we had. Just because there could have been more tickets doesn't mean we got them, we sold what we got. How do we bring more than we got tickets? Whoever's decision it was is irrelevant to that question. I'd understand you bringing it up if I was criticising Donny but I'm not.

I have also pointed out that there weren't any direct trains on Saturday because of engineering work. That got ignored.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: roversdude on January 28, 2024, 09:28:30 pm
Just sounds like a catalogue of excuses lol
We’d have obviously liked the away end full, guess you’re just not as well supported as Mansfield,Bradford, Notts County or Grimsby sic
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Spilsby Red on January 28, 2024, 09:33:53 pm
What’s the point in this argument. Credit to the Stockport fans that travelled. Good luck with the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 29, 2024, 06:14:40 am
To be fair to them 9000 turn up every week at home. Probably why they can afford the quality of players they have in their team. I mean Nick Powell would walk into most league 1 teams
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: roversdude on January 29, 2024, 06:20:11 am
It’s not an argument merely an observation-I never slate fans for travelling.
It would however seem that for one reason or another that Rovers have lost out on the money that another 1500 fans would have generated
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: silent majority on January 29, 2024, 11:59:33 am
Got to admit I was gobsmacked (and disappointed)at how few Stockport fans there were, probably knew they would get 3points without needing fans help.
Think that end holds more than 3000 so only half full

I would love to know how more of us could have gone without more tickets?

We’ve never restricted the away end to less than 2000, never ever. If you had sold out the away allocation we can always make extra seats available on an adjacent block giving a total of over 4,000 seats.
The problem would be with your club.

And? I'm not saying the problem wasn't our club's decision (although neither of us can know for certain, for all we know it could have been a police call). I'm asking how we can possibly have brought more than we had tickets? We sold out the initial allocation on either the 16th or 17th. We then got another couple hundred on the 23rd which then also sold out. You can't criticise our fans for not coming when we sold as many tickets as we had. Just because there could have been more tickets doesn't mean we got them, we sold what we got. How do we bring more than we got tickets? Whoever's decision it was is irrelevant to that question. I'd understand you bringing it up if I was criticising Donny but I'm not.

I have also pointed out that there weren't any direct trains on Saturday because of engineering work. That got ignored.

Definitely not a Police decision, they don't have the power to tell a business how many customers to accept. And, as others have pointed out, we've accommodated a full away end on numerous occasions this season, so the issue is definitely at your end.

I for one was amazed how few supporters you brought, transport could have been the main factor, but it certainly wasn't anything to do with us.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: pib on January 29, 2024, 12:11:21 pm
It's easy to look at Stockport's home gates this season and see the 9k average they're pulling in and expect them to have brought more, but I think you have to remember that historically they aren't as well supported as that. In fact, the closest they've got to that sort of average in the last 50 years was when they'd just been promoted to the 2nd tier in the late 1990s, when their average at home was just over 8k (only for 1 season, mind you.)

This is not to have a go at Stockport at all. They've got a lot of "bigger" clubs on their doorstep so to be getting 9k at home and taking decent numbers away consistently is good going.

They're in a good place at the moment. Their support is obviously responding well to being back in the league, the team receiving a good level of investment, and being upwardly mobile.

They're probably comparable to us when we got promoted out of non-league and surged up the leagues. Our support was buoyant at that time and we took good numbers away in the first few years (but never averaged anywhere near 9k at home until we reached the Championship). That's dampened down quite a bit for us now and we took 1100 to Stockport last season, and 900 this season, so I would say the 1600 they brought actually represents OK numbers.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: ravenrover on January 29, 2024, 12:26:53 pm
Who are we to criticise another clubs away support?
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Plumbster on January 29, 2024, 01:33:24 pm
Agreed I hope all those criticising Stockport fans are down in Sutton on Saturday- one of the biggest games of the season now
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Barmby Rover on January 29, 2024, 01:47:54 pm
Half a stand of supporters? Be fair, at least they brought a full team, we only had half a one.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: roversdude on January 29, 2024, 03:21:08 pm
Half a stand of supporters? Be fair, at least they brought a full team, we only had half a one.


I thought we had done a Bolton tbh
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: silent majority on January 29, 2024, 03:34:17 pm
Who are we to criticise another clubs away support?

I don't think we are.

The poster implied that we had restricted their attendance, which we didn't.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: ravenrover on January 30, 2024, 09:09:19 am
My comment was purely on the posts criticising their attendance
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Jimmydee on January 30, 2024, 09:21:19 am
I was pleased with the Stockport fans that stopped for a chat and donated to the foodbank. So far they were more generous than other away supporters that we have played at the Eco this season
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: StockportHatter on January 31, 2024, 04:01:20 pm
Who are we to criticise another clubs away support?

I don't think we are.

The poster implied that we had restricted their attendance, which we didn't.

I didn't imply your club had restricted our attendance. Simply that somebody did and that we couldn't have brought more than we had tickets.

It's not rocket science.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: silent majority on January 31, 2024, 08:52:01 pm
Who are we to criticise another clubs away support?

I don't think we are.

The poster implied that we had restricted their attendance, which we didn't.

I didn't imply your club had restricted our attendance. Simply that somebody did and that we couldn't have brought more than we had tickets.

It's not rocket science.

So it wasn’t us, and it wasn’t SYP, that only leaves your club.

It’s not rocket science.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: StockportHatter on January 31, 2024, 09:17:37 pm
Who are we to criticise another clubs away support?

I don't think we are.

The poster implied that we had restricted their attendance, which we didn't.

I didn't imply your club had restricted our attendance. Simply that somebody did and that we couldn't have brought more than we had tickets.

It's not rocket science.

So it wasn’t us, and it wasn’t SYP, that only leaves your club.

It’s not rocket science.

Which I haven't argued with. We're currently having tickets for Tranmere away dribbled to us and we sold out 2200 there last season for a midweek fixture. So it probably is either our club or some shambles with the ticketing system we use.

You cannot criticise our fans for more of us not coming than we had tickets. That's all I'm saying. That doesn't change whether it was Stockport County who reduced the number of tickets, Doncaster Rovers, Greater Manchester Police, South Yorskshire Police, nor the Queen of Sheba. We sold out of tickets we were allowed to buy.
Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: Pancho Regan on February 01, 2024, 01:29:54 pm
Who are we to criticise another clubs away support?

I don't think we are.

The poster implied that we had restricted their attendance, which we didn't.

I didn't imply your club had restricted our attendance. Simply that somebody did and that we couldn't have brought more than we had tickets.

It's not rocket science.

So it wasn’t us, and it wasn’t SYP, that only leaves your club.

It’s not rocket science.

Which I haven't argued with. We're currently having tickets for Tranmere away dribbled to us and we sold out 2200 there last season for a midweek fixture. So it probably is either our club or some shambles with the ticketing system we use.

You cannot criticise our fans for more of us not coming than we had tickets. That's all I'm saying. That doesn't change whether it was Stockport County who reduced the number of tickets, Doncaster Rovers, Greater Manchester Police, South Yorskshire Police, nor the Queen of Sheba. We sold out of tickets we were allowed to buy.

Like others on this thread, I was amazed at how few supporters you brought to Donny. Even in the central section you occupied, there were hundreds of empty seats.

If lots of your fans were disappointed by not being able to obtain tickets, perhaps they ought to complain to your club and ask why more weren't available?
I'd be interested to know their answer.

The organisation for away fans at your ground when we played you earlier this season left a lot to be desired. Maybe your club is just not very good at organising ticketing?

Title: Re: Stockport Fans
Post by: RoversInSpain on February 01, 2024, 06:06:22 pm
Hatter don’t worry.
Seems we are bored of moaning about our teams on pitch performances.
We can’t moan about our opponents performances because they keep battering us.
So it seems we are now moaning about the performance of our opponents supporters.
Good grief!
Stop the world I want to get off

Good luck for rest of season and please beat FGR and Sutton United if you come across them.