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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Draytonian III on January 30, 2024, 01:17:50 pm
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Has joined the Blue Shitte / Linfield until the end of the season , David Healy and Grant McCann are ex teammates for N.Ireland
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Brilliant move for him, nice to see a young player going somewhere better than Gainsborough for once. He should get plenty of chances to get his tally up there.
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It’ll definitely toughen him up, it’s a proper mesters league
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Has joined the Blue Shitte / Linfield until the end of the season , David Healy and Grant McCann are ex teammates for N.Ireland
David Healy's daughter is in the same school class as my granddaughter
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What level would this equate to please ?
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Linfield would be Conference level, but only about three of their opponents would be (IMHO)
Edit: He will come up directly against Ro-Shawn Williams
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Correct DU, Larne, Cliftonville and the pride of East Belfast
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Grant McCann is a big fan of Linfield as well. I know if I was manager of one of Barcelona a few years back, Messi and Neymar would have found their way to the rovers.
Could be a good indication of how Grant McCann rates him
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Current league leaders & 4 times current champions. Their average attendance at Windsor Park is around 3,000.
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Grant McCann played for Linfield at the end of his career, lifelong ambition
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Anybody else crossing their fingers for a pre-season trip there?
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Anybody else crossing their fingers for a pre-season trip there?
Belfast is far better night out than Dublin which is far too commercialised and touristy.
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Anybody else crossing their fingers for a pre-season trip there?
Belfast is far better night out than Dublin which is far too commercialised and touristy.
Rashford agrees.
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Fax machine strikes again. Loan now off as we’ve just realised Goodman would have played for too many clubs this season, and this is a Northern Irish loan. Now we are desperately looking for someone to loan him out to.
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Might as well keep him here if Carty is injured.
Ironside looks jiggered, he can barely move at the moment.
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I think Adamson is the better prospect in men's football and has the pace and size, good in the air and when on it can be a real handful with more experience for anybody, and can play wide right in a front three01
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Goodmans move now in doubt says GM
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Goodmans move now in doubt says GM
Due to red tape not due to injuries so will still probably go out somewhere else.
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Lining up a move he was ineligible for? Showing a lack of planning on the part of this lads development. If he ends up not playing between now and the end of the season or playing on a substandard loan he should be livid.
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If he can’t be loaned to Linfield how can be loaned elsewhere ?
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I think he can be loaned to national league.
For example Barnsley had to loan Dallas to Oldham because he couldn’t play for 3 league teams in 1 season I think.
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I think he can be loaned to national league.
For example Barnsley had to loan Dallas to Oldham because he couldn’t play for 3 league teams in 1 season I think.
You would think being loaned to a team in another country would be allowed before a team in a lower league
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Lining up a move he was ineligible for? Showing a lack of planning on the part of this lads development. If he ends up not playing between now and the end of the season or playing on a substandard loan he should be livid.
Listen to McCann about the subject, then email him and tell him your conclusion.
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He’s only been out on loan in the national league so if he can’t play in NI how can he join another UK side? Seems a daft rule at the lower division level really.
Playing 90mins twice a week is what the the young players need to get them competitive in our squad. Just giving him the odd 10min run out here isn’t going to bring him on much
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He’s only been out on loan in the national league so if he can’t play in NI how can he join another UK side? Seems a daft rule at the lower division level really.
Playing 90mins twice a week is what the the young players need to get them competitive in our squad. Just giving him the odd 10min run out here isn’t going to bring him on much
The problem is not whether NI is politically part of UK (which of course it is), it is that Northern Ireland has its own national membership of FIFA/UEFA, its own club teams qualifying for European club competitions, and thus in the football world Northern Ireland is a different country from England (not UK), as are Scotland and Wales
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He’s only been out on loan in the national league so if he can’t play in NI how can he join another UK side? Seems a daft rule at the lower division level really.
Playing 90mins twice a week is what the the young players need to get them competitive in our squad. Just giving him the odd 10min run out here isn’t going to bring him on much
The problem is not whether NI is politically part of UK (which of course it is), it is that Northern Ireland has its own national membership of FIFA/UEFA, its own club teams qualifying for European club competitions, and thus in the football world Northern Ireland is a different country from England (not UK), as are Scotland and Wales
Agree with that. I’m confused why he can’t sign if that’s the case though
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He’s played for us and Gainsborough. Gainsborough are in the northern prem, and playing for them counts as one registration, us a second registration but it’s ok for him to play in the National League as a third but not Northern Ireland? Doesn’t make sense does it.
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Is that maybe because the National League is far enough down the pyramid not to count within the same country? I don't know, just guessing.
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Is that maybe because the National League is far enough down the pyramid not to count within the same country? I don't know, just guessing.
But Gainsborough does count?
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. What I am hypothesizing is that maybe within England a player can play for more than two clubs at National League level and below in a season, but that for any international transfer (and NI counts) a player can only play for two clubs at any level, including the one he is about to go to.
If true I don't know whether the English FA have incorporated this rule themselves, or whether other countries have a similar level defined.
It also strikes me, what happens with transfers between countries with totally different seasons (e.g. I think the RoI league is Calendar year)
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. What I am hypothesizing is that maybe within England a player can play for more than two clubs at National League level and below in a season, but that for any international transfer (and NI counts) a player can only play for two clubs at any level, including the one he is about to go to.
If true I don't know whether the English FA have incorporated this rule themselves, or whether other countries have a similar level defined.
It also strikes me, what happens with transfers between countries with totally different seasons (e.g. I think the RoI league is Calendar year)
I know the three club rule is a FIFA thing, like you say, maybe more stringently imposed internationally.
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Yes, it is international regulation. This was the McCann quote yesterday:
"We didn't realise it was going to be an issue because he'd play just once for Gainsborough (Trinity, on loan earlier in season). Now, we could loan him to a National League team over here but if we were to loan him to the Northern Irish league then this rule comes in because it's an international transfer. It's a bit sad really for Jack because that would have been a really good move for him. But it is what it is. We are in a rush to find a club for him but it's got to be the right club and I felt it would have been a really good move for him.“
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This is highly unprofessional by the club. A professional organisation needs to know the rules that apply to their club. What a mess for the lad. McCann saying he'd only played once for Gainsborough is just the cherry on the cake. He played for them. Full stop.
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Tinpot. I don't know if Goodman will ever become a valuable asset for us, but we seem to be doing our level best to make sure he doesn't. Same with Faulkner. What a cock-up.
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This is highly unprofessional by the club. A professional organisation needs to know the rules that apply to their club. What a mess for the lad. McCann saying he'd only played once for Gainsborough is just the cherry on the cake. He played for them. Full stop.
It’s these things that wind me up more than anything. It’s the details that matter. If they are overlooking things like this what else are they overlooking. Shows no foresight and or planning as well.
The running of the club is utterly incompetent. That’s why we are where we are. The owners have zero idea how to run a football club, create a sporting strategy or put a system in place that creates continuity and success.
We have been fully reliant on fortune and managers doing a good job at certain times for any success. It will take more than that to get out of this hole and I’m not sure what action they are taking to rectify this apart from applying slightly more money to the problem.
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So why can't he go back to Gainsborough, if Russ will take him?
The idea is to get him games in men's football, so that is the easy option.
The level is less important if you want to build confidence and resilience.
There might be a good reason why not that I don't see.
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This is highly unprofessional by the club. A professional organisation needs to know the rules that apply to their club. What a mess for the lad. McCann saying he'd only played once for Gainsborough is just the cherry on the cake. He played for them. Full stop.
It’s these things that wind me up more than anything. It’s the details that matter. If they are overlooking things like this what else are they overlooking. Shows no foresight and or planning as well.
The running of the club is utterly incompetent. That’s why we are where we are. The owners have zero idea how to run a football club, create a sporting strategy or put a system in place that creates continuity and success.
We have been fully reliant on fortune and managers doing a good job at certain times for any success. It will take more than that to get out of this hole and I’m not sure what action they are taking to rectify this apart from applying slightly more money to the problem.
Wait until you see the EFL's statement regarding the Rovers from today.
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in some of these lower leagues you can have dual registration !!
https://grassrootstechnology.thefa.com/support/solutions/articles/48001146530-full-guidance-transfers-and-dual-registrations#:~:text=Note%3A%20A%20dual%20registration%20allows%20the%20player%20to,alongside.%20Instead%2C%20select%20%27Dual%20Registration%27%20and%20then%20approve.
don't ask me what's what it's all about i just heard on league commentators mentioning it.
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No move for Goodman then. Can non league teams still loan players from league clubs?
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No move for Goodman then. Can non league teams still loan players from league clubs?
Yes they can.
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Given the injury to Carty I assume he may stay here?
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He could still go to a non league club to play some games With six forwards ok only really one number nine he may not even get on the bench . If he went month on month then that would help him
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If he can go to a non league club he should. Assume we can recall if we get further injuries. Pointless just as giving him the odd 10min run out in a very poor team. Better for him and us if he plays 90mins
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in some of these lower leagues you can have dual registration !!
https://grassrootstechnology.thefa.com/support/solutions/articles/48001146530-full-guidance-transfers-and-dual-registrations#:~:text=Note%3A%20A%20dual%20registration%20allows%20the%20player%20to,alongside.%20Instead%2C%20select%20%27Dual%20Registration%27%20and%20then%20approve.
don't ask me what's what it's all about i just heard on league commentators mentioning it.
Yes you can play for two teams in different leagues.
For instance Kane Simpson began the season a Corsham Town player (Hellenic League) and was then transfered to Frome Town (Southern League). Since then he has played at least 6 times for Corsham when Frome have not had a game.
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Signed permanently for Basford United in the Northern Premier League. He had been on loan with them previously.
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I’m really sorry Goodman didn’t make it with us.
That’s quite a low level he’s at now but good luck to you lad.