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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Nudga on February 01, 2024, 04:27:53 pm
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Jamal Blackman?
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Jamal Blackman?
I think jamal is a black man yes
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Thimothee Lo-Tutala from Hull City on loan for the remainder of the season
COYR
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Knows the area.
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Knows the area.
Let’s hope so
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French U21 international, apparently.
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U21? FFS, another speculation with our League status.
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Is that finally recognition from the management that Jones isn't good enough?
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With it being a loan then one of the outfield players won’t be in the match day squad. Maybe Cartys injury wont be a quick recovery.
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Is that finally recognition from the management that Jones isn't good enough?
Hopefully. I thought we’d stick with Jones and exploit the emergency loan market if/when he got injured tbf
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Should rename us Wonga FC.
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He was ok at Stevenage last year if playing in a solid side. So much for not signing a keeper.
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A 20 year old with 7 senior appearances. It seems an unnecessary risk.
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That’s SIX loans now in the year we were supposed to have substantial funds and doing things properly.
Anyway, a couple of Stevenage fans in the replies seem to think he’s good.
Judging by this we will be after a GK in the summer.
Grant came out and gave Jones a vote of confidence the other day didn’t he? What has changed?
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Shipping six goals in two games?
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I thought Jones body language on Tuesday night where he looked pissed off I wondered if we were getting a keeper.
Grants comment
Rovers manager Grant McCann said: “I’m really pleased with this one.
“We felt it was important to get a keeper in given the news Ian Lawlor is probably going to be out for the rest of the season which is really disappointing for us.
“He comes with a real high pedigree, he’s thought highly of at Hull and had a really good loan last season and helped Stevenage with their promotion to League One.
“We feel it’s a really good signing for us that adds competition in that area. We want to keep that department strong.”
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Had a loan at Stevenage last season, small sample size but comparatively to Jones this season...
Doesn't leave his line anywhere near as much as Jones
Long passing numbers aren't anywhere near as good as Jones
Save percentage is better
Prevented goals are nearly identical, both underperform their expected goals against.
Don't watch the goals he conceded against Mansfield or Wimbledon.
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That’s SIX loans now in the year we were supposed to have substantial funds and doing things properly.
Anyway, a couple of Stevenage fans in the replies seem to think he’s good.
Judging by this we will be after a GK in the summer.
Grant came out and gave Jones a vote of confidence the other day didn’t he? What has changed?
Why wouldn't he support him publicly, what if he'd gone full Deeney on him , destroyed his confidence then not got a player in?
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Substantial funds that got us to a L2 mid-table budget! Just think what we could have had if TB hadn’t agreed to put more in. It does make you wonder what the previous 3 managers had to work with.
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Had a loan at Stevenage last season, small sample size but comparatively to Jones this season...
Doesn't leave his line anywhere near as much as Jones
Long passing numbers aren't anywhere near as good as Jones
Save percentage is better
Prevented goals are nearly identical, both underperform their expected goals against.
Don't watch the goals he conceded against Mansfield or Wimbledon.
How can any keeper leave their line any less than Jones?!
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Substantial funds that got us to a L2 mid-table budget! Just think what we could have had if TB hadn’t agreed to put more in. It does make you wonder what the previous 3 managers had to work with.
Alan, an ex Rovers player I am friends with met Schofield on holiday in Cornwall last summer and he says they had a long chat.
DS told him that he had “peanuts” available in the playing budget.
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This shows what we can really afford
Late payments to Brighton
Not paid a £2000 fine yet
Yet TB says he doesn’t need any one to put extra funds in. He’s happy with mid table budget this year. After under resourcing previous managers.
Injuries haven’t helped this year lack of team consistency game after game. But changing managers won’t help as they’ve all got to work with resources that don’t match the top half of the league table.
Anyway good luck to the lad at least we have three keepers again let’s see if he is any better than Jones and Lawlor.
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The price of sustainability
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Substantial funds that got us to a L2 mid-table budget! Just think what we could have had if TB hadn’t agreed to put more in. It does make you wonder what the previous 3 managers had to work with.
Alan, an ex Rovers player I am friends with met Schofield on holiday in Cornwall last summer and he says they had a long chat.
DS told him that he had “peanuts” available in the playing budget.
DS dad told me that he could only sign Sunday league players, this was way before the fans turned on him.
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Had a loan at Stevenage last season, small sample size but comparatively to Jones this season...
Doesn't leave his line anywhere near as much as Jones
Long passing numbers aren't anywhere near as good as Jones
Save percentage is better
Prevented goals are nearly identical, both underperform their expected goals against.
Don't watch the goals he conceded against Mansfield or Wimbledon.
How can any keeper leave their line any less than Jones?!
Hopefully because it's only a handful of games it's not a true indication of what we'll eventually see!
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Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
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It’s pretty much what RW was telling us, during his short tenure. The root to all our problems?
Makes you think, doesn’t it?
And still, Mr Bramall insists he doesn’t need anyone else on board.
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Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
Yet in the MTO meeting we only have a mid table budget straight from TBs mouth after extra funds were put in
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Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
Brammalls statement of significant funds is b*llocks and more wind and piss.
Yes he's put more funds in but I wouldn't say significant.
Actually, it probably is significant compared to what Wellens and Schofield had.
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Welcome to rovers Thimothée, or however you spell,it.
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I know we should look forward but what kind of budget did Darren Moore have? Did he know too?
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I know we should look forward but what kind of budget did Darren Moore have? Did he know too?
The rumours surfaced under Darren fergusons departure
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Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
Brammalls statement of significant funds is b*llocks and more wind and piss.
Yes he's put more funds in but I wouldn't say significant.
Actually, it probably is significant compared to what Wellens and Schofield had.
Depends what TB thinks is significant, my old Grandma used to slip 5p into my hand and say 'enjoy'
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Looks like people are already writing this poor lad off! I’ll give him a chance if France u20s can.
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Had a loan at Stevenage last season, small sample size but comparatively to Jones this season...
Doesn't leave his line anywhere near as much as Jones
Long passing numbers aren't anywhere near as good as Jones
Save percentage is better
Prevented goals are nearly identical, both underperform their expected goals against.
Don't watch the goals he conceded against Mansfield or Wimbledon.
The leaving-his-line stats are presumably derived from GPS positional data. Coming out to narrow angles and to intercept crosses is the key stat where Jones would not register a great deal. A GK just wandering around his area when the ball is not there and coming out to gather it from defenders when under no pressure would register positively and indicate nothing about his courage in confronting opposition attackers and dangerous crosses. If I am right, and I admit I'm prejudiced and McCann has chosen someone who puts more effort into staying out of trouble than Jones then God Help Us. The fact that he is from Hull City and he also chose Lawlor does not fill me with great hope.
Talking of not watching goals there are rather more than two in the Jones back-catalogue.
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Knows the area.
i presume he knows the penalty area and doesn't treat it as "no mans land" - hopefully he will come out for crosses and shout "MINE"
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
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Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
Yet in the MTO meeting we only have a mid table budget straight from TBs mouth after extra funds were put in
Transfer budget?
I imagine that would be reduced due to the number of players we already have.
Our wage bill will be above midtable just by the quantity of players we have
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
So can you please explain which player is in each category ?
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Peanuts was too much for DS the way he wanted players to play who couldn't, he was supposed to be a top coach and had just one view on the way the game can be played, Stevenage played it another way with a manager who would never be thought of as a revolutionary coach, nor would Warnock who turned Schofield's flops into a team in a couple of weeks at Huddersfield because he recognised what they could do well. An educated idiot was our DS while here, and at Huddersfield.
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Untested kids and national league players!
Just summed up how clueless you are with one sentence.
Absolute fruitcake
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Says everything about the people selecting managers, Selby.
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Untested kids and national league players!
Just summed up how clueless you are with one sentence.
Absolute fruitcake
Fruitcake is absolutely right but I think it’s a fruitcake that has been on this forum before under a different name or four.
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Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
Yet in the MTO meeting we only have a mid table budget straight from TBs mouth after extra funds were put in
That's not what he said at all, completely misdirected!!
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Quote from one of my closest pals who’s a Hull fan
“He’s a real character this guy. We got him from Spurs. He’s been a bit hit & miss at our level but should do a job in League 2.”
That’ll do for me.
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We are 90th out of 92.
It’s been a slow motion car crash for so long that it creeps up on you but when you look, what the f**k has gone on here?
We’ve got no saleable assets whatsoever, one of the largest squads outside the Premier League, losing to clubs with half our resources on a regular, pretty much weekly basis, and are going to Sutton United of all places in hope we can somehow snatch a point to help our claim to remain a league side.
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Would have loved to have seen an experienced GK come in until the end of the season, however I was really impressed when we had Dieng on loan, maybe this lad will be similar in performance levels. I'm not going to pre judge him before he ever plays a game for us.
It's fairly obvious that Grant is going by recommendations from the two ex Tottenham lads in the squad and he really values Barry Richardsons opinion.
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I’ve no issue with this lad coming in, not least as available quality keepers to sign permanently in January are not going to be plentiful. What is far more concerning is that when we have had time and availability in the summer, we didn’t do this. It’s a priority position and like most of our defence, we haven’t invested for years in credible, senior players, with predictable results.
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Untested kids and national league players!
Just summed up how clueless you are with one sentence.
Absolute fruitcake
Jamie sterry - national league
Tom nixon - loan - only tested in national league
Jay mcgrath - untested
George broadband- only tested in national league
Owen Bailey- national league
Conor carty- untested kid on loan
Matthew Craig- untested kid on loan
Lo tutla - kid on loan
Lavery - national league
Deji Sotona- untested kid
Jack senior - national league
Charlie Seaman - only tested in national league
Joe olowu - only tested in national league
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
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Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
Brammalls statement of significant funds is b*llocks and more wind and piss.
Yes he's put more funds in but I wouldn't say significant.
Actually, it probably is significant compared to what Wellens and Schofield had.
It’s not b*llocks, as you put it. The fact is our budget (whether you like it or not, or whether it fits your narrative) is substantially more than probably 50% of the teams in this division. Underperforming with what we’ve got/injuries/poor recruitment has stuffed us.
Thats the truth. Like I say, might not fit your narrative about TB though
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
One or 2 players from non league cab be gems, but to build a TEAM of them is suicide.
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
But there’s nothing wrong with being signed from non league, so your point is utter nonsense
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
But there’s nothing wrong with being signed from non league, so your point is utter nonsense
It's not though is it?
Some excellent players have come from non league, but they are anomalies. To try and build a TEAM of them is suicide, and results in one thing.
Relegation to the league they were all signed from.
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Also
Wood, Ironside, Anderson, Rowe, biggins, close, westbrooke, molyneux, miller,
You missed those off you list
Clown
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
But there’s nothing wrong with being signed from non league, so your point is utter nonsense
It's not though is it?
Some excellent players have come from non league, but they are anomalies. To try and build a TEAM of them is suicide, and results in one thing.
Relegation to the league they were all signed from.
There’ll be hundreds of players around the country in the efl that have been signed from non league
Your argument is nonsense
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Also
Wood, Ironside, Anderson, Rowe, biggins, close, westbrooke, molyneux, miller,
You missed those off you list
Clown
Wow, you really are clueless aren't you ?
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
But there’s nothing wrong with being signed from non league, so your point is utter nonsense
It's not though is it?
Some excellent players have come from non league, but they are anomalies. To try and build a TEAM of them is suicide, and results in one thing.
Relegation to the league they were all signed from.
There’ll be hundreds of players around the country in the efl that have been signed from non league
Your argument is nonsense
Engage your brain, my point is that DRFC have tried to build a TEAM around these players.
The only way that works is by being incredibly incredibly lucky, and no league team has EVER done it successfully
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Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
Brammalls statement of significant funds is b*llocks and more wind and piss.
Yes he's put more funds in but I wouldn't say significant.
Actually, it probably is significant compared to what Wellens and Schofield had.
It’s not b*llocks, as you put it. The fact is our budget (whether you like it or not, or whether it fits your narrative) is substantially more than probably 50% of the teams in this division. Underperforming with what we’ve got/injuries/poor recruitment has stuffed us.
Thats the truth. Like I say, might not fit your narrative about TB though
"50% of the teams in this division" so roughly around mid table.
Definitely poor recruitment. You could say pay peanuts and get monkeys.
Are you happy where this club has been heading in the last few years? You can defend brammal as much as you like, that's your right to do so but I am not happy that we are right back to where we were in the early 90s but in a cleaner stadium.
Darragh McAnthony (like him or loathe him) has more ambition in his left foot than Brammall and is worth a hell of lot less but Peterbrough are always trying to compete.
Peterborough for god sake!!
About time we started thinking that we are a bigger club than most in leagues 1 and 2, it might actually get us somewhere.
I await the, "well you put your money in then" or "people like to spend other people's money"
I tell you now, if I did have Brammalls money, we wouldn't be pissing about trying to avoid relegation to the non league.
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
One or 2 players from non league cab be gems, but to build a TEAM of them is suicide.
It wasn’t that long ago most fans were crying out that these were the type of players we should be looking to sign, fickle or what?
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Also
Wood, Ironside, Anderson, Rowe, biggins, close, westbrooke, molyneux, miller,
You missed those off you list
Clown
Also
Wood, Ironside, Anderson, Rowe, biggins, close, westbrooke, molyneux, miller,
You missed those off you list
Clown
Caolan Laverty - 260
Billy Waters - 190
John Taylor - 420
Hakeeb Adelakin - 290
Above are the appearances these players have made whilst signed for Football League Clubs, including cup matches.
Also
Jamie Sterry - 120
James Maxwell - 120 these include games in the Scottish Championship.
Players also get injured
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
One or 2 players from non league cab be gems, but to build a TEAM of them is suicide.
It wasn’t that long ago most fans were crying out that these were the type of players we should be looking to sign, fickle or what?
Very true, but 1 or 2 exceptional prospects but not to build a team around them.
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With it being a loan then one of the outfield players won’t be in the match day squad. Maybe Cartys injury wont be a quick recovery.
I doubt if we will see Carty or Close again this season. Knee injuries are always problematic. See also Lavery and George Miller. Molyneux will probably be back soon.
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
One or 2 players from non league cab be gems, but to build a TEAM of them is suicide.
It wasn’t that long ago most fans were crying out that these were the type of players we should be looking to sign, fickle or what?
Very true, but 1 or 2 exceptional prospects but not to build a team around them.
If you’re not on the wind up then you need to do something else with your time. You’re embarrassing yourself on here.
My 2 year old lad understands football better than idiots like you
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Give the guy a chance. I'm sure he'll be the number one now, Jones again needs some time out.
We will see how he does.
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He was ok at Stevenage last year if playing in a solid side. So much for not signing a keeper.
The Oracle has spoken, and as usual with such positivity.
From me, welcome Thimothee and well done to the Club for backing GM again.
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
One or 2 players from non league cab be gems, but to build a TEAM of them is suicide.
It wasn’t that long ago most fans were crying out that these were the type of players we should be looking to sign, fickle or what?
Very true, but 1 or 2 exceptional prospects but not to build a team around them.
If you’re not on the wind up then you need to do something else with your time. You’re embarrassing yourself on here.
My 2 year old lad understands football better than idiots like you
Dickos, you are either thick or just that backed into a corner and committed to your position that you can't admit your wrong.
It happens very often with you, with many other posters on here.
There's zero point in anyone engaging with you.
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
One or 2 players from non league cab be gems, but to build a TEAM of them is suicide.
It wasn’t that long ago most fans were crying out that these were the type of players we should be looking to sign, fickle or what?
Very true, but 1 or 2 exceptional prospects but not to build a team around them.
If you’re not on the wind up then you need to do something else with your time. You’re embarrassing yourself on here.
My 2 year old lad understands football better than idiots like you
Dickos, you are either thick or just that backed into a corner and committed to your position that you can't admit your wrong.
It happens very often with you, with many other posters on here.
There's zero point in anyone engaging with you.
If anybody is thick it’s you.
Every contribution you make is negative - if you’re so pissed off with the club why do you bother?
Saying that we are building a team around non- League players is just utter rubbish.
You have no credibility when you make statements like that.
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He was ok at Stevenage last year if playing in a solid side. So much for not signing a keeper.
The Oracle has spoken, and as usual with such positivity.
From me, welcome Thimothee and well done to the Club for backing GM again.
It’s a fact. His performances (small sample) for Stevenage fell into a range slightly above average for L2 keepers last season. Stevenage regular keeper fell into the top 15% of keepers used so make of that what you will.
His save % was good and didn’t make any direct errors that led to goals. Numbers that reflect being commanding at crosses not great.
Passing data can be put in the bin as he played for a Steve Evans side.
I’m no oracle, I just have access to information that’s been modelled in a way even good premier league clubs would struggle to beat. It’s somewhere in the region of what Brighton and Brentford would use.
If you are not interested in any of this there is a block function on this site. Perhaps your mate Colin could both use it. Hope he is saving up his pension for his charitable donation at the end of the season.
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
One or 2 players from non league cab be gems, but to build a TEAM of them is suicide.
It wasn’t that long ago most fans were crying out that these were the type of players we should be looking to sign, fickle or what?
Very true, but 1 or 2 exceptional prospects but not to build a team around them.
If you’re not on the wind up then you need to do something else with your time. You’re embarrassing yourself on here.
My 2 year old lad understands football better than idiots like you
Dickos, you are either thick or just that backed into a corner and committed to your position that you can't admit your wrong.
It happens very often with you, with many other posters on here.
There's zero point in anyone engaging with you.
Stop embarrassing yourself petal and get to bed.
Nothing you’ve said tonight makes any sense.
You’re a shambles
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He’s been here for a few days training according to GM competition for the place
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Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?
One or 2 players from non league cab be gems, but to build a TEAM of them is suicide.
It wasn’t that long ago most fans were crying out that these were the type of players we should be looking to sign, fickle or what?
Very true, but 1 or 2 exceptional prospects but not to build a team around them.
If you’re not on the wind up then you need to do something else with your time. You’re embarrassing yourself on here.
My 2 year old lad understands football better than idiots like you
Dickos, you are either thick or just that backed into a corner and committed to your position that you can't admit your wrong.
It happens very often with you, with many other posters on here.
There's zero point in anyone engaging with you.
Stop embarrassing yourself petal and get to bed.
Nothing you’ve said tonight makes any sense.
You’re a shambles
Ah, if you can't make sense of it, then It must be the former.
I'll remember that going forward, and treat you accordingly.
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He was ok at Stevenage last year if playing in a solid side. So much for not signing a keeper.
The Oracle has spoken, and as usual with such positivity.
From me, welcome Thimothee and well done to the Club for backing GM again.
It’s a fact. His performances (small sample) for Stevenage fell into a range slightly above average for L2 keepers last season. Stevenage regular keeper fell into the top 15% of keepers used so make of that what you will.
His save % was good and didn’t make any direct errors that led to goals. Numbers that reflect being commanding at crosses not great.
Passing data can be put in the bin as he played for a Steve Evans side.
I’m no oracle, I just have access to information that’s been modelled in a way even good premier league clubs would struggle to beat. It’s somewhere in the region of what Brighton and Brentford would use.
If you are not interested in any of this there is a block function on this site. Perhaps your mate Colin could both use it. Hope he is saving up his pension for his charitable donation at the end of the season.
I don’t block posters like you I engage & challenge them because they need ‘outing’ for what they are.
In your case it’s a saddo who actually believes he has all the formulae’s at hand necessary to decide a good player from a bad one. “..I just have access to information that’s been modelled in a way even good premier league clubs would struggle to beat.”
Oh how I laughed at that one!
It’s a typically priceless piece of pretentious, egotistical arrogance even by your own high standards in ‘the art’ of self prominence.
Your constant pomposity & negative postings only serves to fuel my endeavours to ensure I confront such….how best to describe it (?), shite.
As for the bet or ‘charitable donation’ as you call it I had with you in that I would give £10 to the Rover’s Academy for every goal less than ten that Joe Ironside failed to score by the end of the season plus a further £10 for every place below 10th that Rovers finished the season by, don’t you worry yourself about my finances.
I’m in no doubt that purely on the basis of that bet you would be delighted for Joe to ‘stick’ on seven goals from open play & Rovers to finish in the position they currently sit in (or perhaps you secretly hold a desire to see them finish bottom in order to laud your own predictions?) but you see that’s where you & I differ.
Being a pensioner as you quite rightly observed, though be it in as derogatory manner you ‘dared’, means that I have watched more Rovers games than I care to remember. I have ‘lived & loathed’ through the Richardson era & ‘delighted & jublilated’ through John Ryan’s era. Before SO’D & Penney I looked in awe as ‘big’ Lawrie McMenemy took his place in the dug out.
As a ‘child’ I cried when Alick Jeffrey played his last season in a Rovers shirt.
I ‘was there’ when Rovers reached the depths of their existence & I ‘was there’ when they reached the dizzy heights of that existence too.
So I am one of the many who have done ‘the hard yards’.
And here you are. Not old enough to even contemplate reaching pensionable age? Yet ‘wise enough’ to preach to those who dare to question you & your ‘methodically data driven superiority’.
I’m not saying ‘don’t dare criticise the club, the players, the manager or the board’ otherwise you’re not ‘a true’ Rovers supporter. It’s very much to do with the way you articulate that ‘criticism’. You fail miserably.
There are four words that as I drive the two hours to watch my team seem to have ever more resonance & meaning for me. Rovers ‘til I die.
There are three words that you would never contemplate using as you tap away on your keyboard. In my opinion.
That’s me done….until the next time.
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He was ok at Stevenage last year if playing in a solid side. So much for not signing a keeper.
The Oracle has spoken, and as usual with such positivity.
From me, welcome Thimothee and well done to the Club for backing GM again.
It’s a fact. His performances (small sample) for Stevenage fell into a range slightly above average for L2 keepers last season. Stevenage regular keeper fell into the top 15% of keepers used so make of that what you will.
His save % was good and didn’t make any direct errors that led to goals. Numbers that reflect being commanding at crosses not great.
Passing data can be put in the bin as he played for a Steve Evans side.
I’m no oracle, I just have access to information that’s been modelled in a way even good premier league clubs would struggle to beat. It’s somewhere in the region of what Brighton and Brentford would use.
If you are not interested in any of this there is a block function on this site. Perhaps your mate Colin could both use it. Hope he is saving up his pension for his charitable donation at the end of the season.
I don’t block posters like you I engage & challenge them because they need ‘outing’ for what they are.
In your case it’s a saddo who actually believes he has all the formulae’s at hand necessary to decide a good player from a bad one. “..I just have access to information that’s been modelled in a way even good premier league clubs would struggle to beat.”
Oh how I laughed at that one!
It’s a typically priceless piece of pretentious, egotistical arrogance even by your own high standards in ‘the art’ of self prominence.
Your constant pomposity & negative postings only serves to fuel my endeavours to ensure I confront such….how best to describe it (?), shite.
As for the bet or ‘charitable donation’ as you call it I had with you in that I would give £10 to the Rover’s Academy for every goal less than ten that Joe Ironside failed to score by the end of the season plus a further £10 for every place below 10th that Rovers finished the season by, don’t you worry yourself about my finances.
I’m in no doubt that purely on the basis of that bet you would be delighted for Joe to ‘stick’ on seven goals from open play & Rovers to finish in the position they currently sit in (or perhaps you secretly hold a desire to see them finish bottom in order to laud your own predictions?) but you see that’s where you & I differ.
Being a pensioner as you quite rightly observed, though be it in as derogatory manner you ‘dared’, means that I have watched more Rovers games than I care to remember. I have ‘lived & loathed’ through the Richardson era & ‘delighted & jublilated’ through John Ryan’s era. Before SO’D & Penney I looked in awe as ‘big’ Lawrie McMenemy took his place in the dug out.
As a ‘child’ I cried when Alick Jeffrey played his last season in a Rovers shirt.
I ‘was there’ when Rovers reached the depths of their existence & I ‘was there’ when they reached the dizzy heights of that existence too.
So I am one of the many who have done ‘the hard yards’.
And here you are. Not old enough to even contemplate reaching pensionable age? Yet ‘wise enough’ to preach to those who dare to question you & your ‘methodically data driven superiority’.
I’m not saying ‘don’t dare criticise the club, the players, the manager or the board’ otherwise you’re not ‘a true’ Rovers supporter. It’s very much to do with the way you articulate that ‘criticism’. You fail miserably.
There are four words that as I drive the two hours to watch my team seem to have ever more resonance & meaning for me. Rovers ‘til I die.
There are three words that you would never contemplate using as you tap away on your keyboard. In my opinion.
That’s me done….until the next time.
I am nearer to retiring than I am to when I started work!
“In your case it’s a saddo who actually believes he has all the formulae’s at hand necessary to decide a good player from a bad one. “..I just have access to information that’s been modelled in a way even good premier league clubs would struggle to beat.””
On that point, I do. Whether you chose to believe that or even understand that it doesn’t really matter to me. How do you think Brentford, Brighton, Liverpool etc have the transfer market by the b*llocks? They use analytics companies to rate players. I work for one.
“Hard yards”?? I’ve seen us struggle away at Stalybridge, Hereford, Telford, Leigh RMI, Hayes and all the rest of them when we were floundering around in the Conf. My posts of late have aired on the side of negativity due to the fact we’ve been in free fall, performances haven’t been good enough and we’ve signed some horror show players. I’ve given loads of potential alternatives in our price bracket that have gone on to prove to be exceptional players. Thats constructive criticism.
You may not like the way I put across my opinions, that’s fair enough, but I have plenty of confidence in what I say because I have a pretty good gauge on the strength of my accusations.
Football moves forward pretty rapidly, good practices filter down from the top and clubs, even at our level, can get left behind. That could be what’s happening to us. We made a positive stride forward when we had the intention to change the structure. I was hugely positive about that decision at the time.
Can Terry change enough to get us back on the rails? It’s not looking that way at the minute, hence the current negative vibe.
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Untested kids and national league players!
Just summed up how clueless you are with one sentence.
Absolute fruitcake
Jamie sterry - national league
Tom nixon - loan - only tested in national league
Jay mcgrath - untested
George broadband- only tested in national league
Owen Bailey- national league
Conor carty- untested kid on loan
Matthew Craig- untested kid on loan
Lo tutla - kid on loan
Lavery - national league
Deji Sotona- untested kid
Jack senior - national league
Charlie Seaman - only tested in national league
Joe olowu - only tested in national league
That Jamie Vardy eh? Who'd have thought it?
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Ian Wright before him, half a dozen Peterborough strikers, Alfie May , the list is endless but there’s no point listing them as the fella with numerous names and aliases is always right
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AS good as he was then and is now, Rovers would not have taken Vardy because of his previous criminal history which resulted in him wearing a tag for a while.
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AS good as he was then and is now, Rovers would not have taken Vardy because of his previous criminal history which resulted in him wearing a tag for a while.
Based on what?
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AS good as he was then and is now, Rovers would not have taken Vardy because of his previous criminal history which resulted in him wearing a tag for a while.
Based on what?
Do you mean, why wouldn't we take him?
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I'll drag this back to the OP.
How did the new keeper get on?
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He was good. Didn’t get near goal but otherwise calm and in control. Him and Wood gave some order to defence. He’s a big unit.
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Head and shoulders above Jones, came off his line, caught crosses, great distribution, didn't have a chance with their goal to be fair but a good debut.
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Solid - good signing.
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Showed a bit of passion getting the draw in the last minute, got a long kick and a long throw on him, looks more commanding than both Jones and Lawlor
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He looked good doing the easy stuff well
He is a big unit for sure and was impressed after 5 mins or so when he came through several players to dive and punch ball away
Distribution looked good but let's face it we have faced Sutton who imo are awful and I'm not sorry to say I hope they go down with Bradford (lol) so we need to see the new GK in action v a decent Team
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Much improved with his starting positions than Jones.
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Good long throw on him. Can clear the half way line easily. There wasn’t too much to test him but did everything he needed to.
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The shot that beat was not really stoppable. To use an old fashioned term, he really "commanded" the area. Excellent.
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
What do you think now?
Also I haven’t seen that “in the box” poster in a while, I hope they’re ok!
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Whoops.
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U21? FFS, another speculation with our League status.
some posts dont age that well? He's the best keeper we've had in many a year!!
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Whoops.
Must be nice never to be wrong.
I'll admit this speculation on these 3 players has paid off.
But if it makes you feel big in trawling old posts to find fault then crack on kid.
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Whoops.
Must be nice never to be wrong.
I'll admit this speculation on these 3 players has paid off.
But if it makes you feel big in trawling old posts to find fault then crack on kid.
Say Thank you Terry Brammall and all will be forgiven Tony
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Whoops.
Must be nice never to be wrong.
I'll admit this speculation on these 3 players has paid off.
But if it makes you feel big in trawling old posts to find fault then crack on kid.
Say Thank you Terry Brammall and all will be forgiven Tony
Thankyou for what? Owning the football club ? Doing what is expected?
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Whoops.
Must be nice never to be wrong.
I'll admit this speculation on these 3 players has paid off.
But if it makes you feel big in trawling old posts to find fault then crack on kid.
Say Thank you Terry Brammall and all will be forgiven Tony
Thankyou for what? Owning the football club ? Doing what is expected?
Go on, I'll bite. What is he expected to do?
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I thought I’d read what was said about TLT when we signed him and compare it with the current views of the critics of his recruitment. Even when it was reported that he had put in a confident performance at Sutton they remained silent.
Let’s hope that when he considers his future, he disregards what was written about him on here before he actually played. Perhaps those who prejudged his signing and were so disparaging in their expectations of his ability should apologise. I suppose the same might be said of Wood.
In contrast, numerous loanees have been lauded extensively based on YouTube videos of them scoring goals, most of whom have actually been disappointing.
It’s tempting to prejudge new signings, but quite often people get it completely wrong.
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Compare Wrexham signing Jack Marriott on deadline day to the signing of Biamou a month later.
Biamou has already played more minutes, scored more goals and has contributed more to the more in-form team for probably a quarter of the wage.
But all of us, ranging from the most positive to the most negative fans would have taken Marriott if offered over a man who hasn’t played in 2 years and has never been prolific.
I think going forward now it will just be a case of “In McCann we trust”.
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Team full of untested kids and national league players.
Thanks brammall, for nothing
Whoops.
Must be nice never to be wrong.
I'll admit this speculation on these 3 players has paid off.
But if it makes you feel big in trawling old posts to find fault then crack on kid.
Say Thank you Terry Brammall and all will be forgiven Tony
Thankyou for what? Owning the football club ? Doing what is expected?
Say 2 million thank you’s then.
Go on. You know you want to really.