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Title: Corners
Post by: Fal on March 09, 2024, 07:45:19 pm
Now I know we don’t score from normal corners that much but when was the last time we ever scored direct from a corner kick?

I recall Beckham scoring one against us at Belle Vue but that’s about it?
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: drfchound on March 09, 2024, 07:47:04 pm
We raised the same question at the game today but couldn’t come up with an answer.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: duggiesmyhero on March 09, 2024, 07:50:51 pm
Now I know we don’t score from normal corners that much but when was the last time we ever scored direct from a corner kick?

I recall Beckham scoring one against us at Belle Vue but that’s about it?
Beckham scoring directly from a corner was away at Preston and not at belle vue
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: drfchound on March 09, 2024, 08:00:22 pm
Now I know we don’t score from normal corners that much but when was the last time we ever scored direct from a corner kick?

I recall Beckham scoring one against us at Belle Vue but that’s about it?
Beckham scoring directly from a corner was away at Preston and not at belle vue

I believe that was also Beckhams first goal in first team football.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 09, 2024, 08:06:01 pm
I'd put decent money on Adelakun meaning that one today.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Jonathan on March 09, 2024, 08:12:04 pm
Now I know we don’t score from normal corners that much but when was the last time we ever scored direct from a corner kick?

I recall Beckham scoring one against us at Belle Vue but that’s about it?
Beckham scoring directly from a corner was away at Preston and not at belle vue

I believe that was also Beckhams first goal in first team football.

I think so, yes. A real I was there moment. (I was).
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: IDM on March 09, 2024, 08:14:09 pm
I remember playing for my primary school when the opponent scored straight from a corner.  Full sized goals too so plenty to aim at.

Few minutes later they have another corner, the ref (their teacher) says “don’t worry lads, he’ll not do that again”.  But sure enough, corner comes over and is curling into the top corner..  far to high to head but I jump and punch up and tip the ball over the bar.  It’s a fantastic save, problem is I’m not the goalie!  Long before that’s a sending off offence and at least there was a chance of missing the penalty.. they didn’t, we lost 2-4..
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Fal on March 09, 2024, 08:16:54 pm
Now I know we don’t score from normal corners that much but when was the last time we ever scored direct from a corner kick?

I recall Beckham scoring one against us at Belle Vue but that’s about it?
Beckham scoring directly from a corner was away at Preston and not at belle vue

My error.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: belton rover on March 09, 2024, 08:23:27 pm
Now I know we don’t score from normal corners that much but when was the last time we ever scored direct from a corner kick?

I recall Beckham scoring one against us at Belle Vue but that’s about it?
Beckham scoring directly from a corner was away at Preston and not at belle vue

I believe that was also Beckhams first goal in first team football.

I think so, yes. A real I was there moment. (I was).
I said to my boy no way did he mean it. He said absolutely he did.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Thorney on March 09, 2024, 08:26:21 pm
Now I know we don’t score from normal corners that much but when was the last time we ever scored direct from a corner kick?

I recall Beckham scoring one against us at Belle Vue but that’s about it?
Beckham scoring directly from a corner was away at Preston and not at belle vue

I believe that was also Beckhams first goal in first team football.

I think so, yes. A real I was there moment. (I was).
I said to my boy no way did he mean it. He said absolutely he did.

I think he did. He looked like he gave it a good ol whack on purpose
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: ravenrover on March 09, 2024, 08:29:06 pm
Did he get it played to him short corner before he crossed/shot it?
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 09, 2024, 08:34:50 pm
Did he get it played to him short corner before he crossed/shot it?

I've totally lost track of whether we are talking about Adelakun or Beckham here

Adelakun's was direct from the corner. No short pass. I was screaming at him to play it short to Molyneux because the defenders had backed off into the box.

Daft t**t went and ignored me, didn't he?
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Pancho Regan on March 09, 2024, 08:55:23 pm
I really think he meant that today.

The corner was near where we sit in the West Stand and as soon as he hit it I thought “That bugger is going in!”

The guy who sits next to me said “I don’t know if he meant that but it was a hell of a corner!”
I replied “I reckon he meant it”.

Adelakun hits the corner hard with the inside of his foot, gets perfect bend on it, aimed high towards the goal.
It goes in the far top corner.
Of course he meant it!


Title: Re: Corners
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on March 09, 2024, 09:40:00 pm
Looked like it was planned everyone crowded the near post pinning the keeper and then he swung it over them into the far end. It’s not that hard to whip a corner directly on target but normally you’d expect the keeper to deal with them
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: selby on March 09, 2024, 09:52:32 pm
 Not happy at all, my favourite saying gone for ever " we never score from corners", sod it.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: builder jon on March 09, 2024, 10:00:29 pm
I think Brian User once scored direct from a corner 60s  ;)
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: graingrover on March 09, 2024, 10:54:25 pm
The last one I remember was at home v Leicester City
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Petche on March 09, 2024, 11:10:21 pm
The last one I remember was at home v Leicester City

Is that when Schmeichel dropped the ball in the net from (I think) a Mark Duffy corner?
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: scawsby steve on March 09, 2024, 11:18:10 pm
The last one I remember was at home v Leicester City

Is that when Schmeichel dropped the ball in the net from (I think) a Mark Duffy corner?

Yes, Petche, and it was deemed an o.g.

On that basis, it can't be compared to Haks's goal today.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: drfchound on March 09, 2024, 11:22:48 pm
On the highlights you can see that the ball is well outside the quadrant too.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Pancho Regan on March 09, 2024, 11:29:55 pm
On the highlights you can see that the ball is well outside the quadrant too.

Nah ….. I think your eyesight’s going hound ….

  ;)
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: drfchound on March 09, 2024, 11:32:12 pm
On the highlights you can see that the ball is well outside the quadrant too.

Nah ….. I think your eyesight’s going hound ….

  ;)

Ha, nice one, don’t worry mate they can’t disallow the goal now.
Funny too that a big fuss was made when their player wanted to do that too in the second half.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Bessie Red on March 10, 2024, 01:11:38 am
Now I know we don’t score from normal corners that much but when was the last time we ever scored direct from a corner kick?

I recall Beckham scoring one against us at Belle Vue but that’s about it?
Beckham scoring directly from a corner was away at Preston and not at belle vue

I believe that was also Beckhams first goal in first team football.

I think so, yes. A real I was there moment. (I was).
Me too!
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on March 10, 2024, 03:45:00 am
The last one I remember was at home v Leicester City

Is that when Schmeichel dropped the ball in the net from (I think) a Mark Duffy corner?

yes i remember that around that time we had a "bent" goalkeeper on loan did the same thing in the Saunders era
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Metalmicky on March 10, 2024, 08:30:35 am
Two things.  I don't see how he can mean it, if he tried it 100 times, I doubt that he would be able to do that.  Secondly, when he took the corner, the ball was outside of the corner arc and probably shouldn't have counted... although no complaints from me..
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Donnywolf on March 10, 2024, 01:30:43 pm
I remember one when we lost v Shrewsbury. 0 1.

Awful game

Corner was from SE corner of Ground. BFG was in goal and Ben Sheaf ( edit corrected to Connor Grant)  I think was on goal line between near post and corner flag

Their bloke miskicked it and it rolled most of way . Don't know if Connor G got a call but he left it and it went in at near post

No shots on target in entire game as the corner didn't count ( as a shot on target that is )
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: graingrover on March 10, 2024, 01:58:18 pm
I scored twice directly from corners for Dunsbille Primary school  .The pitch was on such a slope that almost made it an inevitable occurence lol .
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Alickismyhero on March 10, 2024, 02:05:37 pm
I was in the process of offering my advice to the manager, in the presence of my wife.................

Why on earth have they got HIM taking the corners?

When your that size you should in the box...............

"Oh its gone straight in"

What do I know.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Colin C No.3 on March 10, 2024, 02:06:18 pm
I scored twice directly from corners for Dunsbille Primary school  .The pitch was on such a slope that almost made it an inevitable occurence lol .

Was the ball inside or outside the quadrant graingrover?
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Campsall rover on March 10, 2024, 02:15:21 pm
Nearly all corners are taken outside the quadrant.
There always seems to be day light between the line and ball.

Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Draytonian III on March 10, 2024, 02:21:30 pm
Didn’t Connor Grant duck out of the way of one at the near post a few years ago and ball went straight in
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: drfchound on March 10, 2024, 03:07:14 pm
I remember one when we lost v Shrewsbury. 0 1.

Awful game

Corner was from SE corner of Ground. BFG was in goal and Ben Sheaf I think was on goal line between near post and corner flag

Their bloke miskicked it and it rolled most of way . Don't know if Ben got a call but he left it and it went in at near post

No shots on target in entire game as the corner didn't count ( as a shot on target that is )

It was Connor Grant on the near post Wolfie, not Sheaf.
The ball didn’t roll any of the way either.
It was hit quite low though and Grant ducked under it as though he had had a shout from the keeper.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: ForsolongaRover on March 10, 2024, 04:28:35 pm
Nearly all corners are taken outside the quadrant.
There always seems to be day light between the line and ball.


Is it a question of all of the ball being over the line? Yet how many free kicks are taken precisely on the spot where the ref has squirted his white paint? Or how many throw-ins are taken from the right place? The only strict enforcement is of penalty kicks.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: donnievic on March 11, 2024, 01:07:22 pm
Nearly all corners are taken outside the quadrant.
There always seems to be day light between the line and ball.


there can be daylight between the ball and the quadrant,doesn’t have to be touching the line
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: MachoMadness on March 11, 2024, 01:24:41 pm
As long as some of the curve of the ball is over the line, it's ok. It means sometimes there looks to be quite a bit of space between the ball and the line from some angles, even though it's classed as in the quadrant by the rules of the game.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fi_A-k3XkAADYJV.jpg:small)

Title: Re: Corners
Post by: donnievic on March 11, 2024, 01:39:54 pm
Ours deffo wasn’t inside on sa for the goal,,can understand players sumtimes doing it infront of other fans to wind them up
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Avsuptem on March 11, 2024, 02:33:32 pm
The irony there is that later in the game, after we had scored from outside the quadrant, the ref stopped a Crewe player from taking the same liberty.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Mike_F on March 11, 2024, 03:21:18 pm
Listening to Grant's interview it's clear that he meant to curl it in under the bar - probably in the hope that it would get a little flick into the net but as it happens there was no need for another player to touch it and it went straight in.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: One_Matty_Lucas on March 11, 2024, 03:32:05 pm
I have a memory that Robert Gill scored directly from a corner in the Conference but can't find anything about it online, maybe a Mandela Effect...
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: ForsolongaRover on March 11, 2024, 05:11:01 pm
The irony there is that later in the game, after we had scored from outside the quadrant, the ref stopped a Crewe player from taking the same liberty.

Silly really though to worry or get wound up by an inch or two at a corner. An extra meter wouldn't make much difference. Stricter enforcement of free kicks in shooting distance including policing defender's walls would be a better objective.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Avsuptem on March 12, 2024, 06:12:54 am
Presumably though, if we had VAR in league 2 and thank God we don't, the goal would have been disallowed.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Donnywolf on March 12, 2024, 06:43:34 am
Change the quadrant into a Square .... Change rule to say Ball must be placed with it's point of contact within the square

I cant believe that Players try to steal an inch or less on Corners. It seems the only reason is to (again) kill the Clock.

It's always done in the same Corners NW and SE where Lino is furthest from the scene and Ref preoccupied with the pushing and shoving going on. Then the crowd bellow and the Ref stops play and goes to examine the " crime scene " and the Player rolls the Ball back half an inch. Job done , another minute the Ref won't add on

Which made the one Crewe did late on in the Second Half NE corner so bizarre because they were losing and as I have said before what possible advantage do you get by having the Ball 1/2 an inch nearer the Goal because as they often prove most players can and do reach the opposite Corner Flag when over hitting their Corner kick
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Colin C No.3 on March 12, 2024, 07:08:12 am
Perhaps players feel they can get a ‘truer’ contact on the ball when it’s on the grass rather than the painted line? But then you could argue why not place it inside the quadrant where it’s grassed, I dunno.

Can’t see how two inch makes any difference (“what was that Mrs C?”.) at corners & let’s be honest, how many times do ref’s get free kicks placed at exactly where the offence took place.

The only spot (no pun intended) on the pitch where it really matters is the penalty spot.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: drfchound on March 12, 2024, 08:26:40 am
The irony there is that later in the game, after we had scored from outside the quadrant, the ref stopped a Crewe player from taking the same liberty.

Silly really though to worry or get wound up by an inch or two at a corner. An extra meter wouldn't make much difference. Stricter enforcement of free kicks in shooting distance including policing defender's walls would be a better objective.

Agreed on the defensive wall thing.
Refs strides are never a metre long and usually the last two steps don’t add up to a metre in total.
Regarding the quadrant thing, players should be made to adhere to it.
If not, why have the law in the first place.
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Donnywolf on March 12, 2024, 09:00:18 am
I laughed once at Barnsley v Wolves

Kavanagh was having a "mare" of a game. He gave Barnsley a free kick at their home end . He strode out his paces and made Wolves wall stand there

I could see even from half way that it was nowhere near 10 yards. Barnsley players protested loudly , then their smallest player (Scowen) strode out with exaggerated strides and made 7 strides only

I thought Yellow Card for dissent but Kavanagh unimpressed refused to remeasure , or move wall or move ball

He made Barnsley take it and ffs they actually scored

Every other Free kick the crowd counted every stride he took and cheered when he got to TEN !

Later in an unrelated matter Barnsley got a Free kick right if front of me on left flank 30 yards from their own goal. Left back put it down , looked upfield but then played it square to Keeper.

30 yards from goal he came out , picked up the ball with Wolves fans and players going mad , spun it forwards , as they do , then took what he was "the" Free Kick.

The murmer round the Ground was something you very rarely hear as the Crowd couldn't believe what had just happened

Wolves won 3-1 I think it was
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Goole Rover on March 12, 2024, 12:35:44 pm
I remember one when we lost v Shrewsbury. 0 1.

Awful game

Corner was from SE corner of Ground. BFG was in goal and Ben Sheaf ( edit corrected to Connor Grant)  I think was on goal line between near post and corner flag

Their bloke miskicked it and it rolled most of way . Don't know if Connor G got a call but he left it and it went in at near post
Can your remember JT when Bob Chappell stepped back to take the corner at Carlton making a painful contact with electric fence then scored direct from his kick. I recall the ref being unhappy with his language.


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No shots on target in entire game as the corner didn't count ( as a shot on target that is )
Title: Re: Corners
Post by: Donnywolf on March 12, 2024, 03:52:09 pm
I remember one when we lost v Shrewsbury. 0 1.

Awful game

Corner was from SE corner of Ground. BFG was in goal and Ben Sheaf ( edit corrected to Connor Grant)  I think was on goal line between near post and corner flag

Their bloke miskicked it and it rolled most of way . Don't know if Connor G got a call but he left it and it went in at near post
Can your remember JT when Bob Chappell stepped back to take the corner at Carlton making a painful contact with electric fence then scored direct from his kick. I recall the ref being unhappy with his language.

.

No shots on target in entire game as the corner didn't count ( as a shot on target that is )