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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: South East Rover on April 06, 2024, 05:08:38 pm
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Tommy Rowe best game since is returned to Rovers.
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Excellent when he came on,he was all over. Covered so much ground.
Big applause Tommy :clapping:
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He was great today. Mind you, everyone was. Craig was unplayable.
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Big Joe and Sterry were immense again today ! Maybe the Wood factor is having a massive inflenuce across the entire back 4 ! Roll on Tuesday…..
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Yes, you can always depend on tommy. Not bad when his legs have gone!
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Big Joe and Sterry were immense again today ! Maybe the Wood factor is having a massive inflenuce across the entire back 4 ! Roll on Tuesday…..
We have conceded one goal in our last six games. That is absolutely unreal. Five clean sheets. Just a single goal conceded.
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Big Joe and Sterry were immense again today ! Maybe the Wood factor is having a massive inflenuce across the entire back 4 ! Roll on Tuesday…..
We have conceded one goal in our last six games. That is absolutely unreal. Five clean sheets. Just a single goal conceded.
Wow...That’s staggering.
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Big Joe and Sterry were immense again today ! Maybe the Wood factor is having a massive inflenuce across the entire back 4 ! Roll on Tuesday…..
We have conceded one goal in our last six games. That is absolutely unreal. Five clean sheets. Just a single goal conceded.
Wow...That’s staggering.
All down to Wood - he has been staggering :blush: :scarf:
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All down to playing a regular 11, I think. Wood is a great leader on the pitch. He talks, people listen.
Having a strong bench to helps. All deserve plaudits. Playing with pride and working with each other.
Not forgetting us, the fans. Something to be proud of and showing the players how proud we are of them
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Big Joe and Sterry were immense again today ! Maybe the Wood factor is having a massive inflenuce across the entire back 4 ! Roll on Tuesday…..
We have conceded one goal in our last six games. That is absolutely unreal. Five clean sheets. Just a single goal conceded.
Wow...That’s staggering.
All down to Wood - he has been staggering :blush: :scarf:
He certainly was on Tuesday when he came off!
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Loved the bit of needling and shithousery between Sterry and Slew !
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Team was great today.
But I have to pick out Jamie Sterry, no nonsense,and did some gritty stuff. Then a breath later some lovely subtle touches and passes. Looks in control of what he’s doing. Liking him more and more.
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Team was great today.
But I have to pick out Jamie Sterry, no nonsense,and did some gritty stuff. Then a breath later some lovely subtle touches and passes. Looks in control of what he’s doing. Liking him more and more.
Felt like Sterrys best game for us. All the back 4 were great. Maxwell and Craig the standouts again. Not impossible we get a good bid for Maxwell in the summer. The data clubs will be all over him.
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Team was great today.
But I have to pick out Jamie Sterry, no nonsense,and did some gritty stuff. Then a breath later some lovely subtle touches and passes. Looks in control of what he’s doing. Liking him more and more.
Mustard today
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Team was great today.
But I have to pick out Jamie Sterry, no nonsense,and did some gritty stuff. Then a breath later some lovely subtle touches and passes. Looks in control of what he’s doing. Liking him more and more.
He seems to have upped his performances massively in recent games, he did have a bit of a bad spell in Feb but he's definitely put that right, puts in a really good shift and is a lot more composed now and the linking up with LM is really paying off.
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Big Joe and Sterry were immense again today ! Maybe the Wood factor is having a massive inflenuce across the entire back 4 ! Roll on Tuesday…..
We have conceded one goal in our last six games. That is absolutely unreal. Five clean sheets. Just a single goal conceded.
Wow...That’s staggering.
All down to Wood - he has been staggering :blush: :scarf:
Woods was staggering when he was walking off the pitch with his head injury on Tuesday, today he earned the MOTM just for getting on the pitch today, he definitely was feeling the pain after his two late headers near the end
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I’m not going to win many fans tonight with this, but I thought Joe was poor in the extreme. I am not sure what he offered, he threw himself around looking for fouls that were very clearly not, and was very laboured in his running, other than that what did you see. I really do appreciate being a lone man upfront is a thankless task, but just not sure he offered anything today. He seems to be having a poor end to the season( to me at least)
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WDYJFO
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Big Joe and Sterry were immense again today ! Maybe the Wood factor is having a massive inflenuce across the entire back 4 ! Roll on Tuesday…..
We have conceded one goal in our last six games. That is absolutely unreal. Five clean sheets. Just a single goal conceded.
Wow...That’s staggering.
All down to Wood - he has been staggering :blush: :scarf:
Very true DU,but credit has to go to those that have played along side him too.
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I’m not going to win many fans tonight with this, but I thought Joe was poor in the extreme. I am not sure what he offered, he threw himself around looking for fouls that were very clearly not, and was very laboured in his running, other than that what did you see. I really do appreciate being a lone man upfront is a thankless task, but just not sure he offered anything today. He seems to be having a poor end to the season( to me at least)
Won 8 out of 13 headers which is good.
He’s not at his best but I wouldn’t have swapped him for Morecambe’s centre forward. In fact he was better than Crawley’s and FGR’s centre forwards too in those recent games.
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NC you could be right, it’s not how I saw it though, and he just annoyed me today(as did Maxwell) they looked well short of where they have been. Also I realise the thread was talking about big Joe as in the defender, I read it as the forward. I thought Joe the defender had another very solid game.
Joe the forward has been immense this season, but not so much lately, he’s looked leggy, slow - hopefully he gets a goal in the next game to boost him.
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Maxwell was good today again. Tenacious and got forward well as usual. He’s getting to be the complete left back imo
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I love Tommy Rowe and don’t want to see him leave when his contract ends, but I realise you can’t make decisions based on emotion.
He took that goal so well today and it put the game to bed so I could finally relax and enjoy the last few minutes!
I’m sure it’s my paranoia but he didn’t seem to celebrate much, which made me think he might not be staying.
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I’m not going to win many fans tonight with this, but I thought Joe was poor in the extreme. I am not sure what he offered, he threw himself around looking for fouls that were very clearly not, and was very laboured in his running, other than that what did you see. I really do appreciate being a lone man upfront is a thankless task, but just not sure he offered anything today. He seems to be having a poor end to the season( to me at least)
Disagree completely. The work Joe ironside does for the team is immeasurable. He gives us a platform to build from with his hold up play, works his socks off without the ball. He is just what we have needed since the departure of Marquis.
Yes he hasn’t scored many goals recently but does that matter. We have won 6 on the trot, 9 wins, 3 draws and just 1 defeat in the last 13 games.
He has played a massive part in our recent success.
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No doubt.that Ironside has been tremendous for us this season but I can't help thinking he is a bit of a one trick pony. Shields the ball with his body, uses his body strength to hold off defenders and hopes to draw a foul. His first touch is not great and he does not have the trickery of Adelakan / Molly / Hurst. Even our back four have better ball control and dribbling skill. Which is not to say he us not worth his place, he brings something the others haven't got and Grant seems to know exactly how to deploy him.
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Joe’s what you call a good old fashioned centre forward. Gets in there where others don’t, gets battered every game and gets up and goes again and again. 18 goals is some going. He’s not a winger. Love him to bits, me.
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I love Tommy Rowe and don’t want to see him leave when his contract ends, but I realise you can’t make decisions based on emotion.
He took that goal so well today and it put the game to bed so I could finally relax and enjoy the last few minutes!
I’m sure it’s my paranoia but he didn’t seem to celebrate much, which made me think he might not be staying.
That was my initial reaction aswell, he didn't celebrate at all and first thought was he isn't getting a renewal.
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I didn’t think he was bad at all today but Joe Ironside was keeping us in the division 2 months ago with a last minute equaliser at Sutton, he’s probably blown a huge sigh of relief mentally, ‘on the beach’ as it were and if he is he’s probably the only one I wouldn’t blame
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Nobody seems to have noticed my post a couple of days ago about new contracts:
“Rowe has been a fantastic and loyal player all his time at Rovers. Been asked to cover every position except goalie and centre forward it would seem. Never complained or moaned.
Whilst he’s getting older and slower, still a great man to stick on to do a job.
Do hope he stays with us in some capacity.”
Written before his goal today
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I’d definitely keep Tommy !!! Grant and the team need him around
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Not as a playing staff member. He's faded over the last year a lot. Really good player for us but it comes to an end sadly
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Maybe he has been offered a one year deal on reduced terms and feels that he deserves or could do better. We have also tied some players down early maybe leaving those not yet offered a new deal wondering about their future.
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Tommy is a model pro and has done a lot for the club in both his spells but we shouldn’t be offering him a new deal IMO. He would make a good manager one day.
He’s 36 in September and his game is built on physicality and athleticism. He’s been a shadow of his former self for 2 seasons now. 1 good game in one that the whole team dominated doesn’t change that sorry.
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Maybe he has been offered a one year deal on reduced terms and feels that he deserves or could do better. We have also tied some players down early maybe leaving those not yet offered a new deal wondering about their future.
Tied 2 down but doesn't mean to say we haven't made offers to others. As GM said in a recent interview they are nearly there with a couple of others and I'm sure GM will have had a word with anyone not made an offer
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Tommy is a No for me. Been a great player for us but it’s been clear for a while he is, quite naturally, on the decline. We need to build on what we have and someone in TRs position probably needs to move out to allow that.
No room for sentiment at a club wanting to really push on at pace, which should be our aim now.
Thanks for the good times Tommy.
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No doubt.that Ironside has been tremendous for us this season but I can't help thinking he is a bit of a one trick pony. Shields the ball with his body, uses his body strength to hold off defenders and hopes to draw a foul. His first touch is not great and he does not have the trickery of Adelakan / Molly / Hurst. Even our back four have better ball control and dribbling skill. Which is not to say he us not worth his place, he brings something the others haven't got and Grant seems to know exactly how to deploy him.
Of course he doesn’t have the dribbling skills of Molly or Haka or Hurst. For a start he isn’t a wide player.
Does Haarland have the dribbling skills of Foden, Grealish, Doka, De Silva, etc.
every team needs a team to be able to play different roles. That’s what makes a team.
We would have been bottom 2 at the end of 2023 without Joe Ironside. In fact I think we would have been bottom of the league.
Yes Joe isn’t a Championship centre forward but he is a brilliant league 2 one.
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I didn’t think he was bad at all today but Joe Ironside was keeping us in the division 2 months ago with a last minute equaliser at Sutton, he’s probably blown a huge sigh of relief mentally, ‘on the beach’ as it were and if he is he’s probably the only one I wouldn’t blame
He most definitely is not on the beach. His work rate yesterday was as it has been all season.
He never gives less than 100%
Not sure what some were watching yesterday. For him to receive any criticism I think is quite astounding.
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Tommy is a model pro and has done a lot for the club in both his spells but we shouldn’t be offering him a new deal IMO. He would make a good manager one day.
He’s 36 in September and his game is built on physicality and athleticism. He’s been a shadow of his former self for 2 seasons now. 1 good game in one that the whole team dominated doesn’t change that sorry.
Tommy Rowe only played 30 odd mins yesterday.
No he has been a model pro and a very good player in his 1st spell with us but time calls.
He would do a very good job for someone in the National League for a couple of seasons imo.
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Tommy is a model pro and has done a lot for the club in both his spells but we shouldn’t be offering him a new deal IMO. He would make a good manager one day.
He’s 36 in September and his game is built on physicality and athleticism. He’s been a shadow of his former self for 2 seasons now. 1 good game in one that the whole team dominated doesn’t change that sorry.
Tommy Rowe only played 30 odd mins yesterday.
No he has been a model pro and a very good player in his 1st spell with us but time calls.
He would do a very good job for someone in the National League for a couple of seasons imo.
he played over an hour yesterday and didn’t stop the whole time.
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I didn’t think he was bad at all today but Joe Ironside was keeping us in the division 2 months ago with a last minute equaliser at Sutton, he’s probably blown a huge sigh of relief mentally, ‘on the beach’ as it were and if he is he’s probably the only one I wouldn’t blame
He most definitely is not on the beach. His work rate yesterday was as it has been all season.
He never gives less than 100%
Not sure what some were watching yesterday. For him to receive any criticism I think is quite astounding.
joe has run his blood to water the entire season, with no back up on the bench, gets fouled constantly with no protection from the refs, and has scored many crucial goals, max is now a godsend to him.. someone to share the load, for me he is beyond criticism of any sort..
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I'd like to see Joe and max up front together but that would mean going to a 4-1-3-2 and we can't really start a match that way with the current formation having a lot of success.
Maybe doing it on the 65/70 minute mark if we're chasing a game.
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Tommy is a model pro and has done a lot for the club in both his spells but we shouldn’t be offering him a new deal IMO. He would make a good manager one day.
He’s 36 in September and his game is built on physicality and athleticism. He’s been a shadow of his former self for 2 seasons now. 1 good game in one that the whole team dominated doesn’t change that sorry.
Tommy Rowe only played 30 odd mins yesterday.
No he has been a model pro and a very good player in his 1st spell with us but time calls.
He would do a very good job for someone in the National League for a couple of seasons imo.
he played over an hour yesterday and didn’t stop the whole time.
Sorry he did, he was the 1st sub of course he was.
He played well, everyone did. But that doesn’t mean we should keep him next season.
It’s strange isn’t it, not aimed at you Cramby, only 8 weeks ago even less with some posters they wanted nearly the whole squad to go at the end of the season and now it seems they want almost the whole lot signed up again.
I am saying no more.
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Tommy is a model pro and has done a lot for the club in both his spells but we shouldn’t be offering him a new deal IMO. He would make a good manager one day.
He’s 36 in September and his game is built on physicality and athleticism. He’s been a shadow of his former self for 2 seasons now. 1 good game in one that the whole team dominated doesn’t change that sorry.
Tommy Rowe only played 30 odd mins yesterday.
No he has been a model pro and a very good player in his 1st spell with us but time calls.
He would do a very good job for someone in the National League for a couple of seasons imo.
In that Wellens / McSheffrey relegation season I thought he was good. After that he started picking up injuries and slowed right down.
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Ironside has faded a bit because I’d imagine his body needs a rest.
No, he’s not going to skin three defenders but his first touch is good. It’s always harder back to goal trying to work out what to do. Especially when you’ve got a 13 stone defender doing you up the arse every time.
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It’s probably quite a good tactic for Ironside to play an hour beating up defenders then bring on Biamou or someone a little more refined to go through them.
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George Broadbent will pick up the baton from Tommy - he's waiting in the wings, watching and learning but already has it in him to be a championship player.
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Broadbent is certainly in Mccans plans but is one that really needs to kick on for me. Hope you are right BR, but I'm yet to be convinced.
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Yeah Tommy is done at the end of the season. But he put in a great shift against Morecambe. Players running through brick walls at the moment. If we can get some more quality in the summer who GM can blend in the team and get them working as hard. We will be some force next season.
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Always a tough one, there were times in the past when you would thank the stars you have him as he was the glue that kept the team together and when he came back i was delighted. Reality is though that injury's, position changes and father time has meant that we've not seen the best of him during this spell. Places have to be made to available for the incomings and i'm afraid Tommy's is one of them.
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Ironside is just going to have carry on if Biamou's hamstring injury keeps him out. There is only Waters to come in upfront.
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Thought Ironside looked back to how he was playing early in the season tonight, much better!
Big Joe at the back was again superb, but my man he match goes to Sterry, his passing range in the last few games has been outrageous, I never really saw any potential in him since he came back from injury, but he is well and truly showing it now.
I can’t make my mind up if we were flat or Walsall were trying to rush us into mistakes, but the lone ball giants couldn’t keep it up in the second and we scrambled a bit of control, still not sure how we haven’t scored at least three more.
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Ironside was class tonight. Didn’t put a foot wrong and had his energy back. He had 2 cleared off the line as well and one of them looked in.