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Title: DFP
Post by: philsky on April 25, 2024, 09:01:04 am
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/the-predicted-final-league-two-table-as-doncaster-rovers-battle-crawley-town-barrow-and-bradford-city-for-final-play-off-places-4602692?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1714021813

Article posted today. 6am.

Going to finish 8th on 68 points.

Dont know where to start.

Title: Re: DFP
Post by: One_Matty_Lucas on April 25, 2024, 09:04:47 am
Maybe they have some information about points deductions...
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: Dutch Uncle on April 25, 2024, 09:05:42 am
To be fair Philsky, they are merely linking to someone else's computer predictions which the DFP has done regularly all season. The predictions have regularly underestimated us and frustration is better directed at prediction creators. IMHO DFP Rovers coverage is recently very much improved, beyond recognition even.
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: DMnumber4 on April 25, 2024, 09:11:15 am
Notably not written by Ricky Charlesworth
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: philsky on April 25, 2024, 09:15:08 am
To be fair Philsky, they are merely linking to someone else's computer predictions which the DFP has done regularly all season. The predictions have regularly underestimated us and frustration is better directed at prediction creators. IMHO DFP Rovers coverage is recently very much improved, beyond recognition even.

Granted, but a quick proof read would reveal we’re already on 70 points.
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: Dutch Uncle on April 25, 2024, 09:29:08 am
To be fair Philsky, they are merely linking to someone else's computer predictions which the DFP has done regularly all season. The predictions have regularly underestimated us and frustration is better directed at prediction creators. IMHO DFP Rovers coverage is recently very much improved, beyond recognition even.

Granted, but a quick proof read would reveal we’re already on 70 points.

You are right of course. I have seen this prediction before (we were on 67 points at the time and I thought it very negative), so DFP has put it out twice. Someone messed up this time.
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: ForsolongaRover on April 25, 2024, 09:37:54 am
We are told that there was a time when people believed what was in the newspapers and then later people thought that computers had all the answers. Now, not just those we might have classed as “intelligent” people are profoundly sceptical about what computers reveal.

You would have thought that AI would be harnessed to this grand task of predicting football outcomes, but I haven’t come across anything as explicitly attributing outcomes as the result of those processes yet. No doubt the newspapers will catch up eventually…
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: Copps is Magic on April 25, 2024, 09:51:36 am
Some observations

a) A 'supercomputer' to predict one game (a highly volatile end of season game at that) - this is not a scenario you would use a supercomputer in.
b) Very happy to finish anywhere in the play-offs
c) Did the freepress really drag out a league table prediction over 6 pages?
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 25, 2024, 10:16:22 am
It's purely clickbait with as much computing power as an abacus.

I jokingly replied to their Facebook post suggesting they bin the Supercomputer for one that's not wrong 100% of the time.

But of course  they win because I clicked on the article to be confronted by a host of adverts.
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: DearneValleyRover on April 25, 2024, 10:57:16 am
Apparently Colchester are getting 2 points in their last game
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: Donnywolf on April 25, 2024, 11:16:37 am
Has this been updated as when I clicked link it says 7th for us with Barrow lol in 8th with Bradford lol presumably lower.

I stopped reading at Barrow but am I missing something if we are 8th ?
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: Copps is Magic on April 25, 2024, 11:20:31 am
Has this been updated as when I clicked link it says 7th for us with Barrow lol in 8th with Bradford lol presumably lower.

I stopped reading at Barrow but am I missing something if we are 8th ?

Supercomputer*


*edited a little by regional journos.
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: colincramb on April 25, 2024, 11:24:24 am
It’s a shocking paper. Utterly useless
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: Upton Rover on April 25, 2024, 11:37:18 am
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/the-predicted-final-league-two-table-as-doncaster-rovers-battle-crawley-town-barrow-and-bradford-city-for-final-play-off-places-4602692?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1714021813
I saw this over a week ago
Article posted today. 6am.

Going to finish 8th on 68 points.

Dont know where to start.
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: 02richarle on April 25, 2024, 11:48:31 am
Hi all. Ricky here.
I can understand the frustration from some at the supercomputer articles but I don't think you'll be shocked or surprised that it is regularly near the top of our most-read stories. Having said that, I personally do not write them and these pieces are done for other centres and titles within our group. Most of the time it is to populate the Rovers section for the days when I am off.

I'm not daft enough to think that we can please everyone but I feel like we've made good inroads in terms of expanding our coverage - both online and on our social channels - and fingers crossed there is plenty to go at these next few weeks! Hopefully see a few of you down at Gillingham!

Cheers,
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: Avsuptem on April 25, 2024, 11:56:48 am
Bookies odds of 1-50 for us to make the playoffs would suggest that the super computer might have blown a gasket somewhere.
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: Dutch Uncle on April 25, 2024, 11:59:46 am
Has this been updated as when I clicked link it says 7th for us with Barrow lol in 8th with Bradford lol presumably lower.

I stopped reading at Barrow but am I missing something if we are 8th ?

I think they must have updated the link - I am now seeing 7th with 70 as well.
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: Avsuptem on April 25, 2024, 12:12:02 pm
Has this been updated as when I clicked link it says 7th for us with Barrow lol in 8th with Bradford lol presumably lower.

I stopped reading at Barrow but am I missing something if we are 8th ?

I think they must have updated the link - I am now seeing 7th with 70 as well.

I still think someone must have spilt their tea on the computer
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: roversdude on April 25, 2024, 12:30:29 pm
Just a comment - I’ve been really critical about Rovers coverage in the past. It has improved massively since Ricky took over. That said I detest the DFP website lol
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: StocktonRover on April 25, 2024, 12:40:41 pm
Just a comment - I’ve been really critical about Rovers coverage in the past. It has improved massively since Ricky took over. That said I detest the DFP website lol
Completely agree about the website, its awful to navigate without pop us ruining the experience.
I appreciate that there is a work around, but it shouldnt be necessary.
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: graingrover on April 25, 2024, 05:15:19 pm
But Ricky has been knowledgable , positive and a breath of fresh air on coverage of Rovers .
Title: Re: DFP
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 25, 2024, 05:17:26 pm
More pop ups than whack a mole… Ricky’s been excellent though.