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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Chris Black come back on April 27, 2024, 05:28:38 pm
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That was a nailed on penalty for Maxwell, wasn’t it? Looked clear as day.
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I thought so, leg dangled by their defender, he looked sheepish.
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Stonewall
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I know Joe plays a lot for fouls and they are sometimes a bit contrived but this guy gave him absolutely nothing today. Literally nothing.
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Looked a penalty. The ref was decent up until the red card then he lost it a bit. Didn’t give the penno but gave a really soft free kick to them 30 seconds later when the lad who scored their fee kick just threw himself to the ground.
Too much emphasis put on penalties. If it’s a foul it’s a foul. Doesn’t matter whether it’s in the box or not.
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Also, that yellow for Matty, wow....
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Gillingham commentators both thought it was
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It looked so clear that I thought maybe I missed something. It was a clear trip and Maxwell wasn’t even looking for a trailing leg. He just got fouled. Couldn’t have been any clearer. Cheated yet again.
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As Robbie Andrews said ( quite rightly ) why would he go down there after beating 2 men and about to shoot from 6 ish yards out ?
May have been summarised not RA ( can't remember )
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Looked like Maxwell looked for it from where i was sat. I was quite far from it thought however, the ref today was shockingly poor.
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Blatant
No question he was caught by a leg just about to shoot. Awful decision
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Maxwell was screaming for a penalty after the handball 5 minutes earlier that was outside the box. I wonder if his eagerness for a spot-kick then swayed the ref later
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Looked stonewall to me, Gills would of been dismayed to have had that one refused.
Ref got progressively worse as more importance was unleashed on the match.
If they were giving out points for expressive and over the top body gestures this fella would be tops.
Typical yank.
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McCann as a man with two working eyes in his head, agrees:
“The sending-off is a big changer in the game. It was a decision Timmy made and he's put his hands up. But then I thought there was a stonewall penalty we should have had on James Maxwell. Fortunately, it didn't cost us."
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Not seen a replay but it looked pretty clear live.
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It would’ve been bigger than just a penalty, Andrew’s already on a yellow, and very lucky at that, would’ve/should’ve been sent off if that was given ( I am sure it was his challenge?) But we are beginning to look tired in areas, so that is the worry - time for a short holiday in the sun as a team building activity? Or is the next game on this Tuesday?
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I thought ref was decent first half,got several right that many ref's often get wrong at this level,then seem to change in 2nd half and often become bias towards Gills'
I have not seen a replay of penalty shout yet,at the time it looked certain penalty,even though Maxwell probably looked for it,it was still a pen,and the Gills commentator said in a split second,OH penalty!
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Assumed we had been cheated, and turns out we have been. No surprise, but that little t**t has denied the 1800 there from probably witnessing a piece of history that will likely not come around again in our lifetimes. What a cheating get.
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Not seen any highlights yet but for me it looked as thought it was a pen.
I thought the ref had a good game up to the red card, trying to let the game flow and equally fair to both teams.
After the sending off he turned into a homer for a while.
Overall it was another top performance by us and we got that deserved fifth place.
Someone mentioned earlier that it might not be a bad thing that we couldn’t keep the runs of wins going as it might lift a bit of pressure off the team and I agree with that.
As we always say, Rovers never do it the easy way but we wouldn’t want it any other way ……… would we?
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We're owed one so by rights the refs union will give us something when we need it in one of the next three matches.
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It would’ve been bigger than just a penalty, Andrew’s already on a yellow, and very lucky at that, would’ve/should’ve been sent off if that was given ( I am sure it was his challenge?) But we are beginning to look tired in areas, so that is the worry - time for a short holiday in the sun as a team building activity? Or is the next game on this Tuesday?
Week on Monday..
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https://x.com/dylan162866/status/1784300196676911548?s=61&t=DCRm1C_BBr5pt7J45jXUsA
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Obvious flick out of his leg. Definite pen.
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Well that Twitter clip shows that we were denied an obvious pen.
Thanks for posting that clip Filo.
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Right behind on line of sight and he'd gone round the 2 defenders and got touched. He played for it but he was brought down. Ref was a bit of a performer today and got stuff wrong for both sides.
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Hey ho,
More to the piont I love it when Maxwell decides he wants to be Johan Cruyf, what a player. Jinking left jinking right.
Oh! And That burst of pace v Colchester for our 4th was ridiculous too.
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It was a brilliant run. He should have shot split second earlier and probably scored a goal that would've topped Moly's but he was brought down so Joe should have then been given chance to put us 2-3 up with the pen.
Didn't turn out too bad though eh..
Anybody in that street leaving ground and that nipper on shoulders holding the flare. Was like summit from a pre Health & safety era!
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Definite pen.It was right in front of me.I thought Maxwell was going to do the Archie Gemmill v Netherlands 78 goal.
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A truly disgusting decision.
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Looked a pen on iFollow. Looks even more of a pen in that clip!
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https://x.com/dylan162866/status/1784300196676911548?s=61&t=DCRm1C_BBr5pt7J45jXUsA
Bloody hell that’s a brilliant video clip.
Definite pen for me
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American ref. Has only been in the UK since November apparently. American officials are absolutely shite. I watch San Diego Wave every game and the officiating is abysmal. Truly.
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Cheated, which is to be expected.
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Wow, that looked nailed-on from that angle!
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Not sure what planet that ref was on today. Some truly bizarre calls all game, for both teams.
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Retract what I said. Clear pen!
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That’s a brilliant clip proving without doubt that the defender deliberately stuck his leg out to stop him. A terrible decision from the ref as even in real time from the highlights angle it looked obvious.
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Was right behind goal. One of the worst decisions ever.
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VAR would have given that everytime, I believe VAR will be used in the Final if we get there, it will be our luck we are on the end of a wrong VAR decision
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Everyone in that disgrace of an away end could see it was a clear penalty in real time. He was about to slot it in from six yards, no reason to go down whatsoever. Terrible refereeing but fortunately only cost us a record breaking run of wins rather than affecting our final league position.
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I knew it was only a matter of time before the officials' inadequacy would be responsible for ending this record-breaking attempt. It certainly wasn't because Rovers didn't deserve to win. We would have done had it not been for two monstrously wrong decisions.
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We were cheated yesterday. Simple as that. The clown didn’t even hesitate, just waved play on. Yes we could have missed the penalty and yes they could have equalised, but largely this absolute clown robbed us of a day yesterday that would have set a near 150 year record for our club.
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Their commentator said it was a pen, and also that as it wasn't given as a foul then it had to be a dive so why wasn't that given either?
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Their commentator said it was a pen, and also that as it wasn't given as a foul then it had to be advice so why wasn't that given either?
This.
So this incompetent official did not only get the original decision wrong, in effect he should have also booked Maxwell for "simulation"
It just really grates that these useless officials get assessed by their peers with "nothing to see here" usually the only comment.
How does this raise standards when officials at this level rarely get outed for being useless.
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Can we morally say we've won 11 on the bounce then?
We could rename this forum in a WACCOE stylee.
WAWWOE.
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I just feel cheated of that wonder goal that Maxwell was just about to score in front of the packed away end in a vital game in our history. A defensive clogger triumphed instead.
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I can only imagine the mayhem if Maxwell had gone on to score, or Joe had smashed in the penno
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Can we morally say we've won 11 on the bounce then?
We could rename this forum in a WACCOE stylee.
WAWWOE.
Less of the swearing BST, no need for the W-word on here.!
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In another situation that outragouse decision could have cost us a place in the play-offs. If we had lost that game and all those around us had won we could have ended up in 8th place. Thats how seriouse it could have been lucky for us it wasn't.
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In another situation that outragouse decision could have cost us a place in the play-offs. If we had lost that game and all those around us had won we could have ended up in 8th place. Thats how seriouse it could have been lucky for us it wasn't.
Debatable.. in fact had we lost we would have finished 7th anyway. Should the other results have been different and we finished 8th, surely our (crap) form over the first 29 fixtures outweighs one dodgy refereeing decision.?
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https://twitter.com/owen_collins7/status/1785012622200561954/video/1
Another view
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it looks worse every time I see it.
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Sickener isn’t it? Sad thing is there’s no recourse. Old Brad will not have his hand slapped.
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https://twitter.com/owen_collins7/status/1785012622200561954/video/1
Another view
And the ref had an unobstructed perfect view of that.
Disgraceful that he didn’t give the pen.
Anywhere else on the pitch he would give a free kick for a foul. (IMO of course).
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https://twitter.com/owen_collins7/status/1785012622200561954/video/1
Another view
Deary me. Thank f**k that didn't cost us a play off place!
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Frustrating int it?
But these things happen. That's one reason why it is so very, very difficult to maintain a winning run, even if you are playing superbly. Sooner or later, the rub of the green goes against you.
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Thats an even better view, ref looking straight at it as well, it was after he decided to become a homer
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It would have been a wonder goal- perhaps its destiny that Maxwell scores the winner at Wembley instead!
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Absolutely clear as day, fully cheated. The ref is either monumentally inept or irredeemably corrupt, or both. Beyond terrible officiating.
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Thought it was bad on the day from the covered stand, that is even worse and as already commented it looks like the ref had a clear view. Shocking
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Hopefully as these things even out we may get something during the playoffs
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https://twitter.com/owen_collins7/status/1785012622200561954/video/1
Another view
And the ref had an unobstructed perfect view of that.
Disgraceful that he didn’t give the pen.
Anywhere else on the pitch he would give a free kick for a foul. (IMO of course).
That’s the real kicker. He gives that anywhere else on the pitch I reckon. If it’s a foul it’s a foul.
I reckon he was simply inept. The red card sent him power crazy…
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The ref didn't have the same angle as that camera so would have been more difficult to judge. We would hope the assistant would have had a better angle but he may have been obscured. All too easy when we see it multiple times and if the ref saw it again he maybe wouldn't think Maxwell went down too easily.
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I get that the officials in this league at least get one look, real time. I was a ref years ago too and you can only make decisions on what you see, what is clear.
One of the worst I saw was at the KM a few years ago when Billy Sharp got a two-handed push right in front of the west stand lino - no penalty given. Anyone else remember that one?
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The ref didn't have the same angle as that camera so would have been more difficult to judge. We would hope the assistant would have had a better angle but he may have been obscured. All too easy when we see it multiple times and if the ref saw it again he maybe wouldn't think Maxwell went down too easily.
The linesman would have been on the other side of the pitch Baz.
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The ref didn't have the same angle as that camera so would have been more difficult to judge. We would hope the assistant would have had a better angle but he may have been obscured. All too easy when we see it multiple times and if the ref saw it again he maybe wouldn't think Maxwell went down too easily.
I saw it from Stainforth, live on ifollow, the ref was many miles nearer than me and had a better angle than the ifollow camera
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The ref didn't have the same angle as that camera so would have been more difficult to judge. We would hope the assistant would have had a better angle but he may have been obscured. All too easy when we see it multiple times and if the ref saw it again he maybe wouldn't think Maxwell went down too easily.
I saw it from Stainforth, live on ifollow, the ref was many miles nearer than me and had a better angle than the ifollow camera
You can see the ref very clearly in this latest video.
About 15/20 yards away and an unobstructed view, admittedly not the same angle as the film was shot but surely enough of a view to see it wasn’t a dive.
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The ref didn't have the same angle as that camera so would have been more difficult to judge. We would hope the assistant would have had a better angle but he may have been obscured. All too easy when we see it multiple times and if the ref saw it again he maybe wouldn't think Maxwell went down too easily.
not sure how the linesman could of seen it from other side of the pitch
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Given where play was coming from and that the play was from a static point with a throw in, if this clown didn’t have himself in a position where he could see the action, then he wants dismissing for that alone. Maxwell literally ran the most direct point from the throw in to the goal, before he got fouled. On every level, horrific officiating.