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Title: Terry Bramall
Post by: Jonathan on April 28, 2024, 08:24:01 am
Great to see Terry Bramall at the game yesterday and celebrating over with the fans at the end. He was in his Rovers scarf and looked like he was buzzing and so proud, as he should be. We all know it’s been a difficult few years, none more so than for Terry who’s seen his investment bear little return over that time up until this recent turnaround. He’s made tough decisions, taken a more hands on role and backed the manager in January and we’re all seeing the rewards from that. The returns won’t be financial for him, but you could see from the look on his face at the end that this success means everything to him. We should go into the play offs feeling positive. We’re a good team and the club feels very together again. Terry probably doesn’t get enough thanks, but I think there are more of us that are grateful to him than he knows.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Dazator on April 28, 2024, 08:26:08 am
Great post. Good to hear he was there and enjoying it
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: graingrover on April 28, 2024, 08:29:41 am
The fact that a fan can come on here and post a specific thread to praise the Chairman  -owner speaks volumes for the change that has been brought about at this club .
Few could articulate that as well as Jonathan .
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: StocksArmy on April 28, 2024, 08:54:36 am
Will the club recieve some money for reaching the playoffs?
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: GazLaz on April 28, 2024, 09:01:41 am
Just look at our record since Blunt left his position as chairman…
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: andysly on April 28, 2024, 09:17:37 am
Bumped into him at Thurrock services. Seemed a decent bloke, very much downplayed his role in our upturn.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Prez on April 28, 2024, 09:23:08 am
Yes, he had a smile as wide as the Thames estuary at the end of the game, with Gavin. Fans started singing terry terry give us a wave!(which he did)  Looked absolutely thrilled. Great moment.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 28, 2024, 09:24:13 am
Great to see Terry Bramall at the game yesterday and celebrating over with the fans at the end. He was in his Rovers scarf and looked like he was buzzing and so proud, as he should be. We all know it’s been a difficult few years, none more so than for Terry who’s seen his investment bear little return over that time up until this recent turnaround. He’s made tough decisions, taken a more hands on role and backed the manager in January and we’re all seeing the rewards from that. The returns won’t be financial for him, but you could see from the look on his face at the end that this success means everything to him. We should go into the play offs feeling positive. We’re a good team and the club feels very together again. Terry probably doesn’t get enough thanks, but I think there are more of us that are grateful to him than he knows.

That's really great to hear Jonathen. Like I said on another thread, just revisiting what he said at the Meet the Owners, Hindsight tells us he meant it. Both he and Grant are winners, plus he hated the fact the Weavers at Harrogate were above us. He said he was excited by the challenge of taking the Chairman's role and being more hands on.

To be fair, this is a result of the plans put in place about a year ago, when GB was courting GM, and TB knew he had make changes with the funding and Blunt. It just takes time for things to come together.

Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: drfcsteve on April 28, 2024, 09:25:25 am
Will the club recieve some money for reaching the playoffs?

Extra ticket sales, not sure if there is prize money or not.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 28, 2024, 09:38:58 am
Even the ticket sales are split aren't they? It's not a massive money spinner I don't think.

We passed him on the M11, very nice car.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: roversdude on April 28, 2024, 09:52:50 am
Tv money
Great post Jonathan
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: wilts rover on April 28, 2024, 10:14:24 am
Did he join in the chant of 'There's only one Terry Bramall' in the second half?

Wonder if the guy who started it knew he was there?
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Campsall rover on April 28, 2024, 11:05:14 am
Great to see Terry Bramall at the game yesterday and celebrating over with the fans at the end. He was in his Rovers scarf and looked like he was buzzing and so proud, as he should be. We all know it’s been a difficult few years, none more so than for Terry who’s seen his investment bear little return over that time up until this recent turnaround. He’s made tough decisions, taken a more hands on role and backed the manager in January and we’re all seeing the rewards from that. The returns won’t be financial for him, but you could see from the look on his face at the end that this success means everything to him. We should go into the play offs feeling positive. We’re a good team and the club feels very together again. Terry probably doesn’t get enough thanks, but I think there are more of us that are grateful to him than he knows.
Great post Jonathan. I actually saw and heard 2 of our fans yesterday sing “ There is only 1 Terry Bramall “
About time too imo
Well done to JR also for just giving TB a nudge to get the Club back on a positive upward trajectory.
We were heading into…….well heavens know where until TB took over the mantle of not just being the major owner of the club but a hands on Chairman.
I think we have got our Club back now, no I don’t think, I know we have. The future is looking very bright right now. The whole club is buzzing.

What we do need is a positive transition when TB decides he needs a real retirement or the worse happens which obviously will at some time in the future.
It’s the succession that worries me. We must have another owner with the same enthusiasm and ambition as JR and the same financial pragmatism as TB.
Who is out there who will come forward in the next 3/5/10 years with the same love for this football club and City?
There has to be good number of very wealthy football loving DRFC supporters.

Onwards and upwards. We can only live in the present and hopefully the future will take the right road.

Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Donnyjim on April 28, 2024, 12:18:25 pm
Massive thanks to Terry. He has had some stick from the fans. He has stuck with it and put loads of cash in. Got us Grant as well. Thank you Terry.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Mike_F on April 28, 2024, 01:03:52 pm
I made my way over to the corner to give Terry some applause and a fist pump at the end of the game. He was already grinning from ear to ear but his smile got even wider as he waved back. It was brilliant to see him clearly loving what's happening at the club.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 28, 2024, 01:34:02 pm
In his years remaining as Chairman he has short and long term goals.

Short term, to get us back into top half League One which is probably where our resources and set up put us.

Long term, to nail the model for the club that can outlast his tenure. We tried and failed, and have gone back to what is a successful model, that of building side around a manager. We’ve seen though what happens when successful managers leave us. We need a structure and system that can outlast a manager.

Btw is Copps getting any credit for the good signings? He clearly took plenty of stick for all those that didn’t work last few seasons.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: GazLaz on April 28, 2024, 02:25:32 pm
Promotion will probably cost him money in bonuses!
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: CJK on April 28, 2024, 02:32:59 pm
It's no coincidence that all this has come about since TB kicked David Blunt out is it? I'm so pleased we finally got to the root of the problem and acted decisively. Well done TB, I hope we can take it all the way for you.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Campsall rover on April 28, 2024, 02:39:06 pm
In his years remaining as Chairman he has short and long term goals.

Short term, to get us back into top half League One which is probably where our resources and set up put us.

Long term, to nail the model for the club that can outlast his tenure. We tried and failed, and have gone back to what is a successful model, that of building side around a manager. We’ve seen though what happens when successful managers leave us. We need a structure and system that can outlast a manager.

Btw is Copps getting any credit for the good signings? He clearly took plenty of stick for all those that didn’t work last few seasons.
Is Copps making decisions on in coming players though?
Is he not now only a coach and mentor.
Think GM has the final say on everything reference the football playing side of the club.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 28, 2024, 03:07:43 pm
Copps is Head of Recruitment.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: roversdude on April 28, 2024, 04:32:46 pm
But Grant has the final say - either way great team effort
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 28, 2024, 05:51:00 pm
Ultimately I hope TB is enjoying it, surely seeing the crowds, atmosphere etc is worth the cost?
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: mpc123 on April 28, 2024, 06:04:49 pm
Its been amazing since the change.

Fingers  crossed he sees and keeps that support up.

It just shows what just a slight tweak can do.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: NickDRFC on April 28, 2024, 07:40:07 pm
It's no coincidence that all this has come about since TB kicked David Blunt out is it? I'm so pleased we finally got to the root of the problem and acted decisively. Well done TB, I hope we can take it all the way for you.

I agree but it’s a bit bittersweet - fans have long been complaining that Blunt is useless and should go, and the response was “if Blunt goes, Bramall goes”

How much of the heartache of the last few seasons could have been avoided if TB had acted quicker? That said, the lows make the highs taste so much sweeter.

Glad that the fans are singing for TB, though. He deserves acknowledgment & huge respect for all he’s done for the club and there’s a sizeable number who are hell bent on not giving him any. Hopefully the last few months mean that number are dwindling in size.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: roversdude on April 28, 2024, 08:14:02 pm
TB was otherwise engaged unfortunately in his role of (High ?) Sheriff
Really hope he has a drink planned with Mr Weaver
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Silkscarf on April 28, 2024, 08:21:49 pm
TB was otherwise engaged unfortunately in his role of (High ?) Sheriff
Really hope he has a drink planned with Mr Weaver

Can you explain what you mean?
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: NickDRFC on April 28, 2024, 08:30:42 pm
TB was otherwise engaged unfortunately in his role of (High ?) Sheriff
Really hope he has a drink planned with Mr Weaver

No idea what the second part means but re: the first part I think he was the High Sheriff 4 or 5 years ago rather than recently.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: roversdude on April 28, 2024, 08:31:05 pm
TB explained at the meet the owners night that he had been honoured to have been serving as High Sheriff of West Yorkshire which took up a lot of his time

He is big friends with Weaver the Harrogate chairman
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Campsall rover on April 28, 2024, 08:36:44 pm
TB was otherwise engaged unfortunately in his role of (High ?) Sheriff
Really hope he has a drink planned with Mr Weaver

No idea what the second part means but re: the first part I think he was the High Sheriff 4 or 5 years ago rather than recently.
That’s not what he said at the last fans / owners meeting.
He said he now has time to devote to Rovers as he was no longer too busy being the High Sheriff.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Pliskin on April 28, 2024, 08:46:30 pm
Bramall was the High Sheriff of West Yorkshire from March 2017 to March 2018.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Silkscarf on April 28, 2024, 09:05:55 pm
I don’t believe he can be faulted for his support of Rovers and I thank him for that and hope it continues.

I don’t support his Tory Party donations or bible-thumping. But life is like that. Rarely black and white.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: scawsby steve on April 28, 2024, 09:14:24 pm
I don’t believe he can be faulted for his support of Rovers and I thank him for that and hope it continues.

I don’t support his Tory Party donations or bible-thumping. But life is like that. Rarely black and white.

What need is there for that second sentence? That's more about your prejudices than his beliefs.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 28, 2024, 09:17:30 pm
He's been giving money to the Tories for years. Usually tens of thousands each year. Last donation he made was £25,000 in July 2023. You're not going to please anyone with political involvement and the guy has been more than generous for years with Rovers, but looking at the damage the Tories have done to Doncaster for decades now, it will stick in the craw for many. Others might like him more. Mixing football and politics is unlikely to ever find a middle ground.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: roversdude on April 28, 2024, 09:20:05 pm
Bramall was the High Sheriff of West Yorkshire from March 2017 to March 2018.
Thought he maybe had another stint as he cited it as a reason for not being as involved with Rovers
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: IDM on April 28, 2024, 09:25:54 pm
You would think that most rich folks are likely to be conservative supporters - but it’s a free country.  Folks may not agree with their political views but is he using DRFC as a political football.? 

No, he’s not.. and he’s probably given more to DRFC so what’s the issue.?
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: In the box on April 28, 2024, 09:29:54 pm
Copps is Head of Recruitment.
Wasn’t Copps in that position when McSheffrey was boss ? It makes you think is he taking the plaudits now !
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Silkscarf on April 28, 2024, 09:40:00 pm
I don’t believe he can be faulted for his support of Rovers and I thank him for that and hope it continues.

I don’t support his Tory Party donations or bible-thumping. But life is like that. Rarely black and white.

What need is there for that second sentence? That's more about your prejudices than his beliefs.

Both sentences are my opinion. You don’t have to like them. It’s possible to thank him for his seemingly unwavering support of Rovers while also criticising his support of the Conservative government and belief in fairy stories.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 28, 2024, 09:47:22 pm
Copps is Head of Recruitment.
Wasn’t Copps in that position when McSheffrey was boss ? It makes you think is he taking the plaudits now !

Director of Football Operations before McCann.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: scawsby steve on April 28, 2024, 10:00:10 pm
I don’t believe he can be faulted for his support of Rovers and I thank him for that and hope it continues.

I don’t support his Tory Party donations or bible-thumping. But life is like that. Rarely black and white.

What need is there for that second sentence? That's more about your prejudices than his beliefs.

Both sentences are my opinion. You don’t have to like them. It’s possible to thank him for his seemingly unwavering support of Rovers while also criticising his support of the Conservative government and belief in fairy stories.

Belief in fairy stories? How does a man amass a fortune of half a billion pounds if his intelligence is such that he believes in fairy stories? As regards the "bible thumping" bit, when has Terry ever mentioned his faith, either at MTOs, or anywhere else?

The only one doing any mouthing off about Terry's personal life is you. Despite the fact that it's none of your f*cking business.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Silkscarf on April 28, 2024, 10:42:18 pm
Calm down Steve. It’s my opinion. I’m not impressed by Tories or Christians (or any religions). You can disagree with that if you like. You can vote Tory and go to church if you want. You’re free to think and do what you like within the law. That’s it.

I don’t expect everyone who follows Rovers to have the same beliefs as me. That would cut the fanbase down quite a bit!
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Plumbster on April 28, 2024, 10:46:20 pm
I don’t understand why you think we are interested in your political and religious beliefs on a football forum
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Silkscarf on April 28, 2024, 10:52:02 pm
I don’t.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 28, 2024, 11:15:32 pm
Calm down Steve. It’s my opinion. I’m not impressed by Tories or Christians (or any religions). You can disagree with that if you like. You can vote Tory and go to church if you want. You’re free to think and do what you like within the law. That’s it.

I don’t expect everyone who follows Rovers to have the same beliefs as me. That would cut the fanbase down quite a bit!
And the financial support in Terry Bramall's case!
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Colin C No.3 on April 28, 2024, 11:25:11 pm
Without TB there would have been no GM.

No GM, no playoffs.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on April 29, 2024, 06:16:50 am
TB is probably doing the same work that he was doing for the club, when we were near the bottom of the league. His job role has changed obviously but I don’t think ten wins on the bounce suddenly mean he’s now doing a good job. Very fickle most football supporters. All he can do is provide funds to the manager and hope he uses them wisely.

He has no influence on how the players play. He deserves praise for the funds given to Grant to bring in Adelakun etc in January as that has turned the season round. In my book many deserve praise for the parts played in getting us in to the playoffs. From chairman through to players.

The support has become more positive because of results which helps the players. All this means nothing if we are not promoted, it just shows improvement. The job has to be finished off over a two legged semi final, then a final if we get there. A lot to be positive about, it has been some time since we’ve had the promise that the players have produced over the unbeaten run. Nice to see again.
Title: Re: Terry Bramall
Post by: graingrover on April 29, 2024, 07:18:39 am
Terry Bramall saved us when JR ran out of the means to sustain the club and has put several millions in before the recent turn around on the field .
He and his wife have put even more into a Foundation to support charities and good causes .He made his money anstutely  and invests it charitably .
https://www.bramallfoundation.org/