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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: ChrisBx on May 10, 2024, 11:46:02 pm
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Who do we think will stay and who will leave or be moved on?
I think we'll be saying goodbye to Lo-Tutala, Craig, Adelakun, and Molyneux. As well as their replacements, I'd be targeting a right back as a priority.
With the right budget, it should be an interesting summer!
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Who's contracted?
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Disappointing tonight in itself but as in 2019, the impact is also on the squad for the following season. We are clearly not going to retain the most talented members and will have to do another rebuild. Hope very much we don’t lose McCann otherwise that is another close season lost.
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Just listen to McCann he is gutted but also challenges the players to win the league and if they don't want to then don't come back
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Having slepted on it I think we desperately need a new right back. Sterry gets turned far too often and I don't see him put in tackles like Maxwell does. His crossing is poor also, most are over hit.
OK as a stand in squad player.
Maybe another partial rebuild won't be such a bad thing as it would be GM third window, hopefully this one will have the embargo lifted.
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I said it before and I will say it again, I preffered Nixon at RB.
Similar to Maxwell for me. Gets stuck in, has pace, puts a cross in etc. Also he is a young lad that could play in this team for yrs.
I would pick him over sterry every time. Not sure what happened. Doubt he would sign now having not even been on bench for last quarter of season.
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Sterry is too lazy for me. The amount of times we’d create something if he just made a run around Molyneux it’s criminal. He’s a decent L2 player who has a good cross which makes the unwillingness to run even worse
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On a different point for next season, I would love to see an Ironside/Miller partnership either in a 4-1-3-2 or 3-5-2.
When was the last time we had two strikers on 20 goals a piece?
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I think (unfortunately) we may have seen the last kick of a ball from 47 Adelakun
Desperately hope to be wrong
Moly I thought was stalling to see if we went up and if we did he might probably stay but .... well I hope I'm wrong
Craig will probably move up a Division or even 2 as Spurs want him to develop further and to prove to themselves they have a "Keeper" or an asset to flog on.
Speaking of Keepers, TL-T I am more hopeful of keeping but who knows.
Depressed of Donny :sick:
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So for me we need a keeper and a covering right back in the summer. That's defence sorted.
Midfield needs a fair bit of work given Craig, Rowe and Biggins are all looking likely to be gone. Sadly last night again showed Rowe just doesn't have the legs.
Attack wise, can't see molyneux staying and can't grumble if he moves on. Wingers are probably our focus and I'd probably keep biamou if a cheap deal can be done.
It's not a revolution though so hopefully that helps us hit the ground running in August.
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If anything, this season has highlighted the goalkeeper situation.
We cannot challenge for next seasons title with lawlor, Jones and Bottomley as our goalkeepers.
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I do think with Rowe and Craig going, we should be keeping Biggins.
I know his form has only been recently, but he’s shown what he can do with a settled team around him.
Ironside, Biamou and Miller make a good strike force if they can all stay fit and firing.
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We could do with getting rid of Broadbent he’s just way off it. Still don’t think we should have extended Close either. Craig will end up in L1.
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I do think with Rowe and Craig going, we should be keeping Biggins.
I know his form has only been recently, but he’s shown what he can do with a settled team around him.
Ironside, Biamou and Miller make a good strike force if they can all stay fit and firing.
We certainly missed him and perhaps had he not got the Second at Crewe he may have been available as we started this Leg 1-0 up
We missed him last night without doubt
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Absolutely no doubt that Craig will move higher up the leagues and deservedly so. I've a feeling Haks and Moly will both move on and as much as I'd love to keep TLT he will also have offers from League 1 level at least.
McCann can recruit, we've no doubts on that. I think he would like to keep Biggins and that's the most likely deal to get sorted.
Hurst can come good next season, different to Moly and Haks but causes defences problems.
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With Miller now back ready for pre-season, I think that leaves just Biamou if he stays as being the only player touch and go to be ready for pre-season. That’s a positive base to work from, especially with our new found rigour in treating and rehabbing players.
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Sadly it’s extremely unlikely that any of the 4 mentioned in the OP, will be here in August.
Grant will have to replace them like for like, which will not be easy. I’m guessing he will already have identified players who he wants to bring in. An interesting summer ahead.
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Having slepted on it I think we desperately need a new right back. Sterry gets turned far too often and I don't see him put in tackles like Maxwell does. His crossing is poor also, most are over hit.
OK as a stand in squad player.
Maybe another partial rebuild won't be such a bad thing as it would be GM third window, hopefully this one will have the embargo lifted.
Sterry put in the best cross of the night for Tommy Rowe's diving header in the first half!
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Having slepted on it I think we desperately need a new right back. Sterry gets turned far too often and I don't see him put in tackles like Maxwell does. His crossing is poor also, most are over hit.
OK as a stand in squad player.
Maybe another partial rebuild won't be such a bad thing as it would be GM third window, hopefully this one will have the embargo lifted.
Sterry put in the best cross of the night for Tommy Rowe's diving header in the first half!
And many of the others sailed high above everyone's head. And not just this game either.
Defensively awful
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Having slepted on it I think we desperately need a new right back. Sterry gets turned far too often and I don't see him put in tackles like Maxwell does. His crossing is poor also, most are over hit.
OK as a stand in squad player.
Maybe another partial rebuild won't be such a bad thing as it would be GM third window, hopefully this one will have the embargo lifted.
Sterry put in the best cross of the night for Tommy Rowe's diving header in the first half!
Quality one what Ironside nearly got on the end of too.
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Sterry gambles with his crosses. As a result some will look awful, and others will be so dangerous. Can’t knock it. He’s a good striker of the ball.
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I do think with Rowe and Craig going, we should be keeping Biggins.
I know his form has only been recently, but he’s shown what he can do with a settled team around him.
Ironside, Biamou and Miller make a good strike force if they can all stay fit and firing.
Ironside, Miller and Maxwell are already good ingredients for a tasty 3-5-2. Might be a safer bet.
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Nixon is staying, TLT not much hope I am afraid. Unless nobody else wants him in league 1
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Who's contracted?
2024
7-Luke Molyneux
10-Tommy Rowe
11-Jon Taylor
14-Harrison Biggins
19-Charlie Seaman
27-Liam Ravenhill
29-Jack Degruchy**
30-Tavonga Kuleya
31-Caolan Lavery
32-Ben Bottomley
36-Maxime Biamou
2025
1-Ian Lawlor
2-Jamie Sterry
4-Tom Anderson
5-Joseph Olowu
6-Richard Wood
8-George Broadbent**
9-George Miller
12-Louis Jones
17-Owen Bailey
18-Deji Sotona
21-Kyle Hurst
23-Jack Senior
28-Bobby Faulkner
35-Jack Goodman
2026
3-James Maxwell
20-Joe Ironside
24-Zain Westbrooke
25-Jay McGrath
33-Ben Close
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Who's contracted?
2024
7-Luke Molyneux
10-Tommy Rowe
11-Jon Taylor
14-Harrison Biggins
19-Charlie Seaman
27-Liam Ravenhill
29-Jack Degruchy**
30-Tavonga Kuleya
31-Caolan Lavery
32-Ben Bottomley
36-Maxime Biamou
2025
1-Ian Lawlor
2-Jamie Sterry
4-Tom Anderson
5-Joseph Olowu
6-Richard Wood
8-George Broadbent**
9-George Miller
12-Louis Jones
17-Owen Bailey
18-Deji Sotona
21-Kyle Hurst
23-Jack Senior
28-Bobby Faulkner
35-Jack Goodman
2026
3-James Maxwell
20-Joe Ironside
24-Zain Westbrooke
25-Jay McGrath
33-Ben Close
What's the story with the two lads with asterix beside their names?
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Who's contracted?
2024
7-Luke Molyneux
10-Tommy Rowe
11-Jon Taylor
14-Harrison Biggins
19-Charlie Seaman
27-Liam Ravenhill
29-Jack Degruchy**
30-Tavonga Kuleya
31-Caolan Lavery
32-Ben Bottomley
36-Maxime Biamou
2025
1-Ian Lawlor
2-Jamie Sterry
4-Tom Anderson
5-Joseph Olowu
6-Richard Wood
8-George Broadbent**
9-George Miller
12-Louis Jones
17-Owen Bailey
18-Deji Sotona
21-Kyle Hurst
23-Jack Senior
28-Bobby Faulkner
35-Jack Goodman
2026
3-James Maxwell
20-Joe Ironside
24-Zain Westbrooke
25-Jay McGrath
33-Ben Close
What's the story with the two lads with asterix beside their names?
Club have option of a further year
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Callum Johnson should be out right back for the 24/25 season. Released by Mansfield and he’s a fantastic player.
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Callum Johnson should be out right back for the 24/25 season. Released by Mansfield and he’s a fantastic player.
Don’t doubt he’s a good player but has only played 46 league games over the past 3 seasons. That would suggest he has suffered multiple injuries
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I think a good alternative to Sterry would be someone who can play wing back and drive forward and beat a man. This would give the squad more flexibility.
Not sure if Johnson is that, haven’t seen him play. What’s he like Gaz?
Josh Emmanuel could definitely offer that and will probably drop to this level.
Tom Nixon is a good defender but looks a bit lost when he’s in the final 3rd.
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Tom didn't look lost when he whupped that one in against Mansfield
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What about Flint and Straughan-Brown?
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We need a goalkeeper, can’t see us signing TLT as he’ll probably play in league 1 or the Championship.
If a league one club offers Haks a deal he’ll take it I imagine as it’ll be more than we can offer. If no offers forthcoming from league 1 I imagine he would stay rather than going to another league 2 side. Same with Moly. Positive here is that Hurst has looked great in small spells the back end of the season, if he can keep that up every game he’ll be a big player next season.
Craig likely playing in the championship next season. Hopefully whoever scouted Bailey has got another diamond lined up. Or we find another super loan singing from the prem for the season to replace Craig.
Right back I do think we need cover for when Sterry goes missing. Grant seems to have gone off Nixon for some reason.
Centre half we’re fine if Wood/Anderson/Olowu can all stay fit.
Close and Westbrooke are interesting. Can’t see where they fit in to the structure Grant has used the back end of this season?
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Don't see Timmy coming back.
Need a better RB.
Get rid of Taylor (please) and I think Rowe will go and that'll free up a decent amount for signings/others' wages. Adelakun may be interested, but he is League One quality.
Can see clubs bidding for Molyneux and maybe even Ironside.
Kyle Hirst main man next season.
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We need a goalkeeper, can’t see us signing TLT as he’ll probably play in league 1 or the Championship.
If a league one club offers Haks a deal he’ll take it I imagine as it’ll be more than we can offer. If no offers forthcoming from league 1 I imagine he would stay rather than going to another league 2 side. Same with Moly. Positive here is that Hurst has looked great in small spells the back end of the season, if he can keep that up every game he’ll be a big player next season.
Craig likely playing in the championship next season. Hopefully whoever scouted Bailey has got another diamond lined up. Or we find another super loan singing from the prem for the season to replace Craig.
Right back I do think we need cover for when Sterry goes missing. Grant seems to have gone off Nixon for some reason.
Centre half we’re fine if Wood/Anderson/Olowu can all stay fit.
Close and Westbrooke are interesting. Can’t see where they fit in to the structure Grant has used the back end of this season?
Need better than Close if we want a serious shot at the automatics prefer Westbrook but he was piss poor when he came on Friday. Defence & Strike force seem pretty set need to buy our own keeper not rely on a loan and some investment in midfield & wide areas. Personally I'd offer Taylor a day as you play deal can't see anyone else wanting to take him with his injury record.
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Sterry has been excellent, least of our problems.
Midfield is a huge issue, if we think Close and Westbrooke can reproduce what we’ve had in midfield in the last couple of months we’re on another planet.
Craig has been better than the pair of them, and he’ll have better development opportunities,
Biggins seems to have found his niche, but he seems on his way.
Remove Adelukan and Molyneux and we are left with very little going forward.
This summer is a huge challenge for the management team.
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The Close / Westbrooke rotation is a downgrade on Craig. But that’s who we’ve got.
To offset that we need to upgrade the rotation of Biggins / Rowe.
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Sterry has been excellent, least of our problems.
Midfield is a huge issue, if we think Close and Westbrooke can reproduce what we’ve had in midfield in the last couple of months we’re on another planet.
Craig has been better than the pair of them, and he’ll have better development opportunities,
Biggins seems to have found his niche, but he seems on his way.
Remove Adelukan and Molyneux and we are left with very little going forward.
This summer is a huge challenge for the management team.
I'm not anti Sterry but I thought he was poor Friday he had chances to overlap Molly and didn't capitalise, however he's the least of our worries. Sort the keeper out pre- season and the teams got a good spine with Bailey in midfield to build around. GM's proven he can do the business in the transfer market before I'm sure he's already got tabs on the next Herbie Kane/Matthew Craig
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If Moly stays I think we can stick with Sterry as they do have a good understanding. If Moly goes we may need a new right back as well.
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Lots of assumptions on here about who is leaving. Might be correct but nowt’s happened yet. Folks saying the midfield of Close/Westbroke not good enough, but clearly we will sign some others, won’t we?
We can’t judge next season’s prospects based on which players we think we will retain only - there will be new incomings and let’s see who they are eh.?
As for Adelakun, I was disappointed in the few occasions I actually saw him play. Maybe my luck was out but didn’t do much in the play offs, and there was a game on ifollow a few weeks ago (can’t remember which) where I thought he was not involved much. Obviously his goals and assists stats don’t lie, so perhaps I’ve missed his better games.?
I’m no expert but I reckon there’s plenty of decent enough players around, but it’s down to getting the selection which makes the best team.
Players and agents will have noticed our end of season run, seen the potential here.?
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Having slepted on it I think we desperately need a new right back. Sterry gets turned far too often and I don't see him put in tackles like Maxwell does. His crossing is poor also, most are over hit.
OK as a stand in squad player.
Maybe another partial rebuild won't be such a bad thing as it would be GM third window, hopefully this one will have the embargo lifted.
Sterry put in the best cross of the night for Tommy Rowe's diving header in the first half!
He also put another one in, in front of the South Stand which flashed across the six yard box.
Joe was diving in to head it into the net but one of their defenders also dived for it and somehow managed to head it over the bar.
Amazingly good defending.
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We need a goalkeeper, can’t see us signing TLT as he’ll probably play in league 1 or the Championship.
If a league one club offers Haks a deal he’ll take it I imagine as it’ll be more than we can offer. If no offers forthcoming from league 1 I imagine he would stay rather than going to another league 2 side. Same with Moly. Positive here is that Hurst has looked great in small spells the back end of the season, if he can keep that up every game he’ll be a big player next season.
Craig likely playing in the championship next season. Hopefully whoever scouted Bailey has got another diamond lined up. Or we find another super loan singing from the prem for the season to replace Craig.
Right back I do think we need cover for when Sterry goes missing. Grant seems to have gone off Nixon for some reason.
Centre half we’re fine if Wood/Anderson/Olowu can all stay fit.
Close and Westbrooke are interesting. Can’t see where they fit in to the structure Grant has used the back end of this season?
Need better than Close if we want a serious shot at the automatics prefer Westbrook but he was piss poor when he came on Friday. Defence & Strike force seem pretty set need to buy our own keeper not rely on a loan and some investment in midfield & wide areas. Personally I'd offer Taylor a day as you play deal can't see anyone else wanting to take him with his injury record.
We don't need anyone to take Taylor; he's out of contract.
Let him go. He's cost us enough money already.
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Having slepted on it I think we desperately need a new right back. Sterry gets turned far too often and I don't see him put in tackles like Maxwell does. His crossing is poor also, most are over hit.
OK as a stand in squad player.
Maybe another partial rebuild won't be such a bad thing as it would be GM third window, hopefully this one will have the embargo lifted.
Sterry put in the best cross of the night for Tommy Rowe's diving header in the first half!
He also put another one in, in front of the South Stand which flashed across the six yard box.
Joe was diving in to head it into the net but one of their defenders also dived for it and somehow managed to head it over the bar.
Amazingly good defending.
That was great defending. Could have ended up in the back of the net. I actually thought Maxwells OG was close to being great defending as well. Fine margins really.
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Having slepted on it I think we desperately need a new right back. Sterry gets turned far too often and I don't see him put in tackles like Maxwell does. His crossing is poor also, most are over hit.
OK as a stand in squad player.
Maybe another partial rebuild won't be such a bad thing as it would be GM third window, hopefully this one will have the embargo lifted.
Sterry put in the best cross of the night for Tommy Rowe's diving header in the first half!
He also put another one in, in front of the South Stand which flashed across the six yard box.
Joe was diving in to head it into the net but one of their defenders also dived for it and somehow managed to head it over the bar.
Amazingly good defending.
That was great defending. Could have ended up in the back lof the net. I actually thought Maxwells OG was close to being great defending as well. Fine margins really.
I saw the replay of the second goal and it looks like Maxwell (and one other) is playing the Crewe player onside before the cross came in. I was wondering what Maxwell was doing on that side of the pitch when he should really have been on the other side of the pitch keeping an eye on the player who initially received the ball?
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Always amazes me peoples takes on Sterry. I think hes looked outstanding these last few months, so solid.
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Always amazes me peoples takes on Sterry. I think hes looked outstanding these last few months, so solid.
Totally agree, solid and classy. He got a knack of jumping in between the opponent and the ball and dispossessing said opponent. Seen it several times and it’s a very clever piece of play.
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Always amazes me peoples takes on Sterry. I think hes looked outstanding these last few months, so solid.
Me too
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As far as Adelakun is concerned the same message that Grant has expressed.to those out of contract will apply .He will no doubt be made an offer and I would imagine the very latest of fates GRant would tolerate would be thst of the end of current contracts ie 30 June .
Nixon and LTL ate both under contract at Hull still till then ?
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As far as Adelakun is concerned the same message that Grant has expressed.to those out of contract will apply .He will no doubt be made an offer and I would imagine the very latest of fates GRant would tolerate would be thst of the end of current contracts ie 30 June .
Nixon and LTL ate both under contract at Hull still till then ?
I'm pretty sure TLT is under contract at Hull. Quick Google of our announcement suggests he signed a 3 year contract in 2022, which would see him there another year.
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As far as Adelakun is concerned the same message that Grant has expressed.to those out of contract will apply .He will no doubt be made an offer and I would imagine the very latest of fates GRant would tolerate would be thst of the end of current contracts ie 30 June .
Nixon and LTL ate both under contract at Hull still till then ?
I'm pretty sure TLT is under contract at Hull. Quick Google of our announcement suggests he signed a 3 year contract in 2022, which would see him there another year.
I think Hull would accept a relatively low offer, highish 5 figures with a buyback clause and/or a decent sell on. The difficulty for me would be if it opens a bidding war with other clubs.
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Not forgetting, of course, we have 2 keepers already contracted next season.
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Not forgetting, of course, we have 2 keepers already contracted next season.
BUT both of them keepers wanted to be No1 here and it was said they would compete. Signing TLT would make clear they would be fighting for No2 I expect both may want a move? Maybe Jones would want to stay as a local lad?
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Surprised by the criticism of Sterry. Starting right back for our 10 game winning run. What's our PPG with/without him.
I think he's looked pretty good. Admittedly can get caught out at times but he's a league two right back at the end of the day. Think centre mid and wingers are our biggest pain points this summer, assuming Mols and Hak don't re-sign. Obv no chance with Craig.