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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: PDX_Rover on May 11, 2024, 12:51:05 am
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Love this man. Hurting. Speaks from the heart. Good that he’s giving players deadlines to sign or go.
https://youtu.be/drFV5zli-hE?si=k8I9O7RhXyvKFF6O
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We’ve done unbelievably well to get here. Absolutely unreal the last few months. It’s been nigh on faultless, week in and week out.
But…
First, that was a shocking first 20 minutes and despite growing in to dominate the game, we barely touched their keeper.
Second, so many new and marginal supporters in there tonight to see us turn in a distinctly average performance with little goal threat.
Third, last we will see if getting on for almost half that side? Thin margins but McCann has another rebuild job this summer to get us back to the level of competing with the best sides in that league.
Finally, goodbye to Barnsley, Rotherham, Huddersfield, Birmingham City…and hello Bromley. Jesus wept.
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What a guy.
We all need to pick each other up, look back with pride on the way our team turned this season around, and we need to come out of the traps running at full throttle next season.
Let’s push on and get automatic promotion next season. I’m convinced we have the manager to make that happen.
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Losing in the playoffs didn't do Stockport any harm last year. They came back better and won the league. There's no reason why we shouldn't be aiming to do the same.
McCann's challenge now will be to make sure that the squad we start with in August is as good if not better than the one we have now.
The reality is that some of our top performers over the last couple of months are on loan / out of contract, and we'll need to replace them.
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We’ve done unbelievably well to get here. Absolutely unreal the last few months. It’s been nigh on faultless, week in and week out.
But…
First, that was a shocking first 20 minutes and despite growing in to dominate the game, we barely touched their keeper.
Second, so many new and marginal supporters in there tonight to see us turn in a distinctly average performance with little goal threat.
Third, last we will see if getting on for almost half that side? Thin margins but McCann has another rebuild job this summer to get us back to the level of competing with the best sides in that league.
Finally, goodbye to Barnsley, Rotherham, Huddersfield, Birmingham City…and hello Bromley. Jesus wept.
Bromley, Salford, Fleetwood, Harrogate, Barrow.
F*ck me. I’m depressed.
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Another season of tedious Bradford City fake rivalry and a day out in Bromley. Looking forward to League Two 2024/25 already.
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Fire in his belly, let's look forward to the transfer window, Tery backing him and next season as champions!
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Losing in the playoffs didn't do Stockport any harm last year. They came back better and won the league. There's no reason why we shouldn't be aiming to do the same.
McCann's challenge now will be to make sure that the squad we start with in August is as good if not better than the one we have now.
The reality is that some of our top performers over the last couple of months are on loan / out of contract, and we'll need to replace them.
This has to be the goal. Sign a proper keeper and either Adelakun or a younger player in a similar profile and make 100 points the target next season. We have absolutely nothing to fear, let's win the title we should have won under Ferguson.
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It’ll feel flat for a bit but most of us have been here many times in football. Once the dust settles there should be lots of hope. Crucial few weeks ahead where we need to retain manager, ideally a few more key players and set about recruiting for next season.
Tonight wasn’t our night. No excuses, we just weren’t quite good enough on the night. We’ll come again and we need Grant to stay and lead us.
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We’ve done unbelievably well to get here. Absolutely unreal the last few months. It’s been nigh on faultless, week in and week out.
But…
First, that was a shocking first 20 minutes and despite growing in to dominate the game, we barely touched their keeper.
Second, so many new and marginal supporters in there tonight to see us turn in a distinctly average performance with little goal threat.
Third, last we will see if getting on for almost half that side? Thin margins but McCann has another rebuild job this summer to get us back to the level of competing with the best sides in that league.
Finally, goodbye to Barnsley, Rotherham, Huddersfield, Birmingham City…and hello Bromley. Jesus wept.
Bromley, Salford, Fleetwood, Harrogate, Barrow.
F*ck me. I’m depressed.
We were looking at non league just a few months ago.
A season to go and win the championship next season.
Enjoy!!
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It’ll feel flat for a bit but most of us have been here many times in football. Once the dust settles there should be lots of hope. Crucial few weeks ahead where we need to retain manager, ideally a few more key players and set about recruiting for next season.
Tonight wasn’t our night. No excuses, we just weren’t quite good enough on the night. We’ll come again and we need Grant to stay and lead us.
I don't think GM is going anywhere. See his interview he has fire in his belly. He is connected to this club.
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I do worry a bit about him though. He left us previously after the play off defeat and still talks about it now. There's probably opportunities for him higher up.
He is right though we have to be up the top next season.
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Thought his comments about not wanting to be here and getting their agents to call him were slightly OTT.
Those lads in that dressing room have been superb and given us everything…a lot of them weren’t even here in our slow start that he’s referred to.
Fair enough set your stall out and show intent.
Probably not what they needed to hear immediately after the game IMO.
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Thought his comments about not wanting to be here and getting their agents to call him were slightly OTT.
Those lads in that dressing room have been superb and given us everything…a lot of them weren’t even here in our slow start that he’s referred to.
Fair enough set your stall out and show intent.
Probably not what they needed to hear immediately after the game IMO.
I disagree. It's exactly what I would have wanted to hear. The main man is fully up for the fight next yr and if you aren't then off you pop. People react differently but he is saying no one is being taken along for the ride. I 100% agree.
Also why do people keep referring to GM leaving. We didn't commit to him with the stupid 12m rolling contract rule which the club have now realised was an issue. Leave it alone, he is not leaving.
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He has extraordinary leadership quality and even in the immediate moments after that he remains defiant , challenges those who don’t think we will win the league next season .Leadership at its very best .
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Thought his comments about not wanting to be here and getting their agents to call him were slightly OTT.
Those lads in that dressing room have been superb and given us everything…a lot of them weren’t even here in our slow start that he’s referred to.
Fair enough set your stall out and show intent.
Probably not what they needed to hear immediately after the game IMO.
I disagree. It's exactly what I would have wanted to hear. The main man is fully up for the fight next yr and if you aren't then off you pop. People react differently but he is saying no one is being taken along for the ride. I 100% agree.
Also why do people keep referring to GM leaving. We didn't commit to him with the stupid 12m rolling contract rule which the club have now realised was an issue. Leave it alone, he is not leaving.
He’s on a 12 month rolling contract now isn’t he?
Really don’t see the “issue” with it - essentially a rolling contract is the longest contract you can give, it never runs out.
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Thought his comments about not wanting to be here and getting their agents to call him were slightly OTT.
Those lads in that dressing room have been superb and given us everything…a lot of them weren’t even here in our slow start that he’s referred to.
Fair enough set your stall out and show intent.
Probably not what they needed to hear immediately after the game IMO.
I disagree. It's exactly what I would have wanted to hear. The main man is fully up for the fight next yr and if you aren't then off you pop. People react differently but he is saying no one is being taken along for the ride. I 100% agree.
Also why do people keep referring to GM leaving. We didn't commit to him with the stupid 12m rolling contract rule which the club have now realised was an issue. Leave it alone, he is not leaving.
He’s on a 12 month rolling contract now isn’t he?
Really don’t see the “issue” with it - essentially a rolling contract is the longest contract you can give, it never runs out.
From what I read the club changed the policy having realised the issue and GM was on a 3yr contract? Maybe someone can out me right.
A 12m rolling contract is not the longest you can give.....its 12m. That is the club protecting them selves not committing to the management team.
We should give him a 5yr contract with a significant buy out straight away IMO.
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Thought his comments about not wanting to be here and getting their agents to call him were slightly OTT.
Those lads in that dressing room have been superb and given us everything…a lot of them weren’t even here in our slow start that he’s referred to.
Fair enough set your stall out and show intent.
Probably not what they needed to hear immediately after the game IMO.
I disagree. It's exactly what I would have wanted to hear. The main man is fully up for the fight next yr and if you aren't then off you pop. People react differently but he is saying no one is being taken along for the ride. I 100% agree.
Also why do people keep referring to GM leaving. We didn't commit to him with the stupid 12m rolling contract rule which the club have now realised was an issue. Leave it alone, he is not leaving.
Yeah on reflection when you put it like that I do also agree.
I just think he was having a pop about the slow start and a lot of them weren’t here or injured!
Anyway I really hope he is backed, if he is we are surely nailed on for top 3.
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Thought his comments about not wanting to be here and getting their agents to call him were slightly OTT.
Those lads in that dressing room have been superb and given us everything…a lot of them weren’t even here in our slow start that he’s referred to.
Fair enough set your stall out and show intent.
Probably not what they needed to hear immediately after the game IMO.
I disagree. It's exactly what I would have wanted to hear. The main man is fully up for the fight next yr and if you aren't then off you pop. People react differently but he is saying no one is being taken along for the ride. I 100% agree.
Also why do people keep referring to GM leaving. We didn't commit to him with the stupid 12m rolling contract rule which the club have now realised was an issue. Leave it alone, he is not leaving.
He’s on a 12 month rolling contract now isn’t he?
Really don’t see the “issue” with it - essentially a rolling contract is the longest contract you can give, it never runs out.
From what I read the club changed the policy having realised the issue and GM was on a 3yr contract? Maybe someone can out me right.
A 12m rolling contract is not the longest you can give.....its 12m. That is the club protecting them selves not committing to the management team.
We should give him a 5yr contract with a significant buy out straight away IMO.
It’s ROLLING. It always has 12 months on it at any given time.
If you give him a 3 year contract, it will get to a point where it has 2 years, then 1 year, then 6 months etc, then you have to agree another one otherwise he could walk away for nothing at the end of it if another club shows interest.
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Love this man. Hurting. Speaks from the heart. Good that he’s giving players deadlines to sign or go.
https://youtu.be/drFV5zli-hE?si=k8I9O7RhXyvKFF6O
Grant really cares about the club.
No chance he is he going away.
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McCann looked properly, properly floored by that. He was absolutely right that we were well off it all last night. Didn't really land a punch on Crewe. Last night was like we finally ran out of steam. Crewe did a good job soaking us up but McCann will look back at that and think we denied ourselves last night against an organised but not outstanding Crewe side. This shouldn’t take away from a monumental last few months but we threw it away last night . Hugely disappointing.
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What’s annoying me is I thought there was another goal or two in the first leg for us. Didn’t really feel like we went after them.
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We’ve done unbelievably well to get here. Absolutely unreal the last few months. It’s been nigh on faultless, week in and week out.
But…
First, that was a shocking first 20 minutes and despite growing in to dominate the game, we barely touched their keeper.
Second, so many new and marginal supporters in there tonight to see us turn in a distinctly average performance with little goal threat.
Third, last we will see if getting on for almost half that side? Thin margins but McCann has another rebuild job this summer to get us back to the level of competing with the best sides in that league.
Finally, goodbye to Barnsley, Rotherham, Huddersfield, Birmingham City…and hello Bromley. Jesus wept.
There shouldn’t be any buts after your first paragraph
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Well I really feel for Grant and many of the players - last night we had the final proof we have our great club back, what an atmosphere pre match and all the way through, never heard noise like it from the South Stand who should also be praised for not responding to the Crew fans on the pitch at the end.
The football we have been treated to for the last 3 months and that amazing run will live long in the memories of those of us who saw all the games, home and away - no Grant, you haven't let anyone down at all.
For me the key to dominating the league next season will be getting TLT, certain outfield players the subject of speculation will be far easier to replace than a keeper and should Molly and Haks leave, we already have ready made replacements with Hurst and Biamou.
Proud to be a Rover
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The players we will be losing aren’t one of a kind. Grant will recruit well like he always does. We will also have the pick of the best players available at this level as we are a more attractive proposition to play for than this time last year.
We have a lot of forward momentum, let’s keep it going and get promoted properly.
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I think Adelukan has had his career purple patch and reverted to mean, I’d be thinking long and hard about whether to sign him.
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What a guy.
We all need to pick each other up, look back with pride on the way our team turned this season around, and we need to come out of the traps running at full throttle next season.
Let’s push on and get automatic promotion next season. I’m convinced we have the manager to make that happen.
A lot of the disappointment felt after this result may not have been as severe if the recent run of amazing results had been spread throughout over all season , as a momentum had driven the team and supporters on and over expectations took over . Crewe through the sink at us and did what we should have done if had put ourselves in their position. Grant McCann was gutted for everyone and his message for next season shows how disappointed HE was . Its back to the drawing board now and as we will loose key players , getting the right impact players signed early will need to his first move .
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Thought his comments about not wanting to be here and getting their agents to call him were slightly OTT.
Those lads in that dressing room have been superb and given us everything…a lot of them weren’t even here in our slow start that he’s referred to.
Fair enough set your stall out and show intent.
Probably not what they needed to hear immediately after the game IMO.
I have to disagree with you on this one, it shoes how much GM cares, we were all gutted to lose out like that last night however this can be the catalyst for next season already.
Your either with GM or your not and the prep for next season starts now, either sign the contract or go or if your not up for the fight then close the door on your way out. This is exactly what I love about GM, no mincing his words, no confusion in any messages and how they come across at all it's there as plain as day.
I don't see a massive rebuild but maybe 3 or 4 on loans to come in to compliment what we already have regardless if Biggins and Luke both leave, we win as a team and lose as a team. Accept the hurt for the next few days but use it as fuel for next season, onwards and upwards.
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He wants to get that Idea of they have let everybody down out of his mind, they certainly have not, they have given us our club back, shown what is possible attracting a crowd with winning football.
It will come if we continue the trajectory, and there is no reason why we cannot have a good season next term, both in cups and the league, the fans are there the club just need to play the sort of football to attract them and look forward to.
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Fantastic ride but just a bridge too far last night. We'd been stretching that elastic for weeks and it finally snapped. It was going to happen at some point but some fans will never ever get in their lifetime a run in like that. It was brilliant.
Thought that's the best the stadiums been for support – ever. Even those first big games against Huddersfield etc weren't as good as last night. There's a few things about the sound not travelling well in our bowl but was in South and it was tremendous. Looked and sounded fantastic. Cheers Grant, Cliff and the lads for a great few weeks.
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I think Adelukan has had his career purple patch and reverted to mean, I’d be thinking long and hard about whether to sign him.
Disagree with this completely, the opposition have clearly tried to do a number on him and moly as they know of their attacking threat.
They also put two men on ironside all the time to not allow him to bring anyone in the game.
It’s just good tactics nullifying our biggest threats to make them seem like they played bad.
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High achieving consistency with McCann. Two seasons with us. Made play offs both occasions. Won away leg on both occasions. Tommy Rowe started second leg on both occasions. Lost home leg on both occasions. Two players failed to score penalties in the shoot out on both occasions. Went out on penalties on both occasions.
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I think Adelukan has had his career purple patch and reverted to mean, I’d be thinking long and hard about whether to sign him.
Hard but probably fair.
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I can't bring myself to comment on the game as everybody connected to the club have given us hope again and deserve nothing but credit. Did we throw it away? Yes we did and thats obvious to everybody. It happens in football to the very best of teams nevermind little old Donny. Its been and done so lets not take this into next season, we should have a positive pre season, get rid of the last of the dead wood and come out flying. Anybody who doesn't want to be a part of what the club are building whether it be supporters, players or those in talks over new contracts are stupid.
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High achieving consistency with McCann. Two seasons with us. Made play offs both occasions. Won away leg on both occasions. Tommy Rowe started second leg on both occasions. Lost home leg on both occasions. Two players failed to score penalties in the shoot out on both occasions. Went out on penalties on both occasions.
CAFC twice.
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Interestingly, I recall McCann's post-Charlton interview being very similar to last night's. It filled me with confidence that he was the right person to continue building, just as it did last night.
Let's hope for a different outcome this time!
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I think Adelukan has had his career purple patch and reverted to mean, I’d be thinking long and hard about whether to sign him.
Hard but probably fair.
I was having this conversation last night. Who is the real Hakeeb Adelakun? Is he the one who helped us turn around our season with goals and assists a plenty or the one who’s shown up this last handful of games with little contribution and ordinary body language? The previous 6 seasons and 8 goals suggest it could well be the latter.
I hope I’m wrong and Grant persuades him to stay and he reproduces the phenomenal form he showed a few weeks ago. I’m now unconvinced that this will happen however.
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Adelakun is knackered. He was blowing out his arse after about 80 minutes last night because he's run his blood to water every game for the last 3 months. Bit harsh to write him off after a couple of games when his contribution to our historic run has been massive.
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Adelakun is knackered. He was blowing out his arse after about 80 minutes last night because he's run his blood to water every game for the last 3 months. Bit harsh to write him off after a couple of games when his contribution to our historic run has been massive.
I’m not sure he’s fully fit. Add into the fact he was used in a pretty specific way as a secret weapon. He’s not so secret any more. Like I’ve said before, feels like we probably have to sign him if available. I wouldn’t break the bank for him though. A lot of these players have are playing the best football of their careers in the last three months. Thats not down to them being world beaters is it…You can’t make really strong decisions or base strong opinions on freak circumstances.