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Title: Team depth
Post by: donnyspadge on May 24, 2024, 03:14:51 pm
Gk
New GK
Lawlor

RB
Sterry
New RB

CB
Woods
Anderson
Olowu
New CB

LB
Maxwell
Senior

CM
Bailey
Westbrook
Sbarra
Close
Broadbent

RW
Molyneux- sign ?
New RW

LW
Hurst
Adelekun - sign ?

ST
Ironside
Miller
New ST

Loaned out
Jones
Faulkner
Mcgrath
Degruchy
Kuleya
Goodman
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DearneValleyRover on May 24, 2024, 03:17:07 pm
Don’t think we will get another CB, I also think we need another striker
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 24, 2024, 05:07:13 pm
Molyneux and Adelakun both mentioned, but not Biggins? Do you know something we don’t?

Personally, I think the midfield needs another ‘Craig’ type, even if Biggins does sign.
New RB required
New striker required
New RW required (hopefully, to compete with Molyneux)
Last, but not least, new keeper.

5 needed, maybe more depending on the ponderers.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on May 24, 2024, 05:35:45 pm
Don’t need a new centre half unless it’s someone so good they walk into the team. In terms of depth we’re overstocked.

We need a winger or two and a centre forward then we’re set imo. Obviously a 1st choice keeper too. It’s quality over quantity this summer.

Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: scawsby steve on May 24, 2024, 08:19:33 pm
Don’t need a new centre half unless it’s someone so good they walk into the team. In terms of depth we’re overstocked.

We need a winger or two and a centre forward then we’re set imo. Obviously a 1st choice keeper too. It’s quality over quantity this summer.

Totally agree, mate. GM said himself that the squad is too bloated. No less than 37 players appeared in league games last season.

I also believe that the keeper needs to be a loan, as in Sam Johnstone, Seny Dieng, and TLT. It's the only way we'll get the quality needed in that position.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ForsolongaRover on May 24, 2024, 08:38:12 pm
Molyneux and Adelakun both mentioned, but not Biggins? Do you know something we don’t?

Personally, I think the midfield needs another ‘Craig’ type, even if Biggins does sign.
New RB required
New striker required
New RW required (hopefully, to compete with Molyneux)
Last, but not least, new keeper.

5 needed, maybe more depending on the ponderers

“Craig types” are needed all over the pitch when it means someone who gets stuck in.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ncRover on May 24, 2024, 08:48:42 pm
For the “Craig role” we have Close and Westbrooke.

That downgrade has been offset by the signing of Sbarra, who looks to be very comfortable on the ball. Something that isn’t/wasn’t a strength of Biggins.

Might need a more physical midfielder if there’s one more. The midfield is more open with Close in it, I’m not sure if stats can quantify that.

Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DearneValleyRover on May 24, 2024, 09:16:10 pm
Don’t need a new centre half unless it’s someone so good they walk into the team. In terms of depth we’re overstocked.

We need a winger or two and a centre forward then we’re set imo. Obviously a 1st choice keeper too. It’s quality over quantity this summer.

Totally agree, mate. GM said himself that the squad is too bloated. No less than 37 players appeared in league games last season.

I also believe that the keeper needs to be a loan, as in Sam Johnstone, Seny Dieng, and TLT. It's the only way we'll get the quality needed in that position.

Jed Steer is available
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: scawsby steve on May 24, 2024, 09:31:12 pm
Don’t need a new centre half unless it’s someone so good they walk into the team. In terms of depth we’re overstocked.

We need a winger or two and a centre forward then we’re set imo. Obviously a 1st choice keeper too. It’s quality over quantity this summer.

Totally agree, mate. GM said himself that the squad is too bloated. No less than 37 players appeared in league games last season.

I also believe that the keeper needs to be a loan, as in Sam Johnstone, Seny Dieng, and TLT. It's the only way we'll get the quality needed in that position.

Jed Steer is available

That would be a great signing, DVR. Would wages be a problem though?
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ncRover on May 24, 2024, 09:43:34 pm
Posh have offered Steer a contract
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Draytonian III on May 24, 2024, 11:02:09 pm
When Jed Steer was at Rovers he was awful, he must have improved. Also I can’t see why people rate Ian Lawlor better than Louis Jones, before he came back Lawlor couldn’t get a start for Dundee in the Scottish Championship.
 
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: idler on May 25, 2024, 09:37:21 am
Ramsdale can’t get a start for Arsenal or even Ortega usually for Man City. It depends who is in the first team in front of you at any one time.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: scawsby steve on May 25, 2024, 06:49:04 pm
When Jed Steer was at Rovers he was awful, he must have improved. Also I can’t see why people rate Ian Lawlor better than Louis Jones, before he came back Lawlor couldn’t get a start for Dundee in the Scottish Championship.

You're right that he must have improved. You don't play for Aston Villa in the Premier League unless you're decent.

The same thing for David Raya. He was awful against us for Blackburn when we pumped them 3-1, yet he's now Arsenal's No1 keeper.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Danmckay456 on May 26, 2024, 06:28:28 am
Fully expect us to sign a new goalkeeper , competition at right back , another midfielder if Biggins doesn’t sign , a couple of strikers and hopefully we won’t have to sign a couple of replacement wingers
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 27, 2024, 10:21:24 pm
Hurst Ironside Gibson
Sbarra
Close Bailey
Maxwell Wood Anderson Sterry
Lawlor

Subs: Jones, Senior, Olowu, McGrath, Broadbent, Westbrooke, Miller



Currently looking like this.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: drfchound on May 27, 2024, 10:23:10 pm
That looks like a decent team.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 27, 2024, 10:47:18 pm
But is it a promotion winning team?

Not quite, imho. There are 3 positions up for grabs.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Ryaldinhio on May 27, 2024, 11:13:42 pm
Based on the above and keeping 2 players for every position I would say we need:

Keeper - must have for me

CB - possible - Senior/Olowu doesn't feel as strong as Woods/Anderson but also have McGrath/Faulkner so plenty of numbers if GM deems good enough

RB - Must have - Nixon? Sterry has never played a full season so this is a must have.

Attacking mid - Must have - Biggo? If not then must have, having lost Biggo/Rowe.

2No Wingers - Must have - Moly & Haks? If not then we need 2 more having lost Moly/Haks/Taylor.

Striker - Must have. Ironside class, Miller hopefully back, still need another.

So overall I think we need 6 signings, hopefully 3 of them are renewals.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: MagicMartinoWoods on May 28, 2024, 12:19:51 am
Bit confused as to why people are wanting another striker here, unless it's concerns over whether miller will stay fit? If GM plays his typical formation we have two good strikers for one position. I could imagine signing a young player with potential as a third as backup but wouldn't think that's a key area where we need to look at first team starter quality. For me there are enough other areas that need regular starter quality bringing in, and budget/squad places need to be utilised wisely.

You need to keep squad harmony too and not everyone can start.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ncRover on May 28, 2024, 06:10:05 am
Bit confused as to why people are wanting another striker here, unless it's concerns over whether miller will stay fit? If GM plays his typical formation we have two good strikers for one position. I could imagine signing a young player with potential as a third as backup but wouldn't think that's a key area where we need to look at first team starter quality. For me there are enough other areas that need regular starter quality bringing in, and budget/squad places need to be utilised wisely.

You need to keep squad harmony too and not everyone can start.

I think it’s maybe the fact that Ironside is integral to the way that we play.
Miller is a good striker but the jury is out on whether the team can play well with him in the lone striker role if required.

But I do think Miller will be better for playing in front of Sbarra rather than Biggins.

McCann will want flexibility in the squad to switch to 3-5-2 mid game like he did in the Barrow comeback. Perhaps if there’s another winger to come in who can play more on the right they could double up as a strike option, like Molyneux can.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: les@donr on May 28, 2024, 06:35:33 am
The club can only sign free agents, let’s see who we sign who is currently under contract. Then we will get to see the squad McCann is building.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ncRover on May 28, 2024, 06:42:51 am
Midfield might done. Gibson can play Sbarra’s position as well.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: roversdude on May 28, 2024, 06:54:48 am
Why can we only sign free agents please?
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Darren on May 28, 2024, 07:08:13 am
 We can only sign free agents until the transfer window opens on 14th June.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 28, 2024, 07:29:42 am
Bit confused as to why people are wanting another striker here, unless it's concerns over whether miller will stay fit? If GM plays his typical formation we have two good strikers for one position. I could imagine signing a young player with potential as a third as backup but wouldn't think that's a key area where we need to look at first team starter quality. For me there are enough other areas that need regular starter quality bringing in, and budget/squad places need to be utilised wisely.

You need to keep squad harmony too and not everyone can start.

Miller isn't the physical striker that McCann tends to prefer, e.g. Ironside, Marquis, Biamou, Eaves, Magennis, etc.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: KingKendrick on May 28, 2024, 07:52:25 am
The club can only sign free agents, let’s see who we sign who is currently under contract. Then we will get to see the squad McCann is building.

You can agree deals for players at any time it’s just the transfers don’t go through until the window officially opens. Same with these that we have signed already. They don’t actually become free agents until after the expiry of their existing deal likely to be the end of June.
I wouldn’t expect us to sign many if any at all players who are under contract as historically we don’t.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: les@donr on May 28, 2024, 08:22:46 am
I’m sure if there is a player GM wants and there is a fee, I’m sure funds would be made available.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: drfcsteve on May 28, 2024, 08:32:45 am
Hurst Ironside Gibson
Sbarra
Close Bailey
Maxwell Wood Anderson Sterry
Lawlor

Subs: Jones, Senior, Olowu, McGrath, Broadbent, Westbrooke, Miller



Currently looking like this.

Add a goalkeeper and that looks a solid first 11 for this level. If we can add quality to the bench and keep everyone fit we’ll do alright. Adding Haks and or Moly would be a bonus.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: IDM on May 28, 2024, 08:57:54 am
I’m sure if there is a player GM wants and there is a fee, I’m sure funds would be made available.

I can't recall exactly when but relatively recently it was said we could pay fees, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: mushRTID on May 28, 2024, 09:14:16 am
Bit confused as to why people are wanting another striker here, unless it's concerns over whether miller will stay fit? If GM plays his typical formation we have two good strikers for one position. I could imagine signing a young player with potential as a third as backup but wouldn't think that's a key area where we need to look at first team starter quality. For me there are enough other areas that need regular starter quality bringing in, and budget/squad places need to be utilised wisely.

You need to keep squad harmony too and not everyone can start.

In the play off home leg I thought we badly missed having an option up front. If Bimou had been on the bench we’d have seen him not long after HT.

Every team that gets promoted has options up front. We definitely need another one and Iv got a feeling it’s going to be another established player rather than a young loan.

Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 28, 2024, 10:40:11 am
Bit confused as to why people are wanting another striker here, unless it's concerns over whether miller will stay fit? If GM plays his typical formation we have two good strikers for one position. I could imagine signing a young player with potential as a third as backup but wouldn't think that's a key area where we need to look at first team starter quality. For me there are enough other areas that need regular starter quality bringing in, and budget/squad places need to be utilised wisely.

You need to keep squad harmony too and not everyone can start.

In the play off home leg I thought we badly missed having an option up front. If Bimou had been on the bench we’d have seen him not long after HT.

Every team that gets promoted has options up front. We definitely need another one and Iv got a feeling it’s going to be another established player rather than a young loan.



Completely agree. We need cover, tactical options anf competition for the strikers, so I think another two frontmen will be required. Ideally, another in the mould of Biamou and another 'off the shoulder' fox in the box type. I'm sure with McCann being quite attack minded, he will have his targets but as said, it's early doors yet.

Personally, I still think we must make sure the spine of the team is where we need the quality. Keeper obviously an area of concern. Midfield is debatable but we can't afford to be short up front if we want to maintain a top of the table push.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 28, 2024, 10:54:50 am
I think we need a goalkeeper, two wide players a right back and a striker.  Perhaps 1 more CM aswell and that's it.

I'd still let one GK go out personally.

We're starting from a stronger place no doubt there.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: NickDRFC on May 28, 2024, 11:13:58 am
Hurst Ironside Gibson
Sbarra
Close Bailey
Maxwell Wood Anderson Sterry
Lawlor

Subs: Jones, Senior, Olowu, McGrath, Broadbent, Westbrooke, Miller



Currently looking like this.

It's definitely the attacking areas that we look light just now - there's only really one proper attacker on the bench there - but that would look very different with Moly &/or Haks on board. For me, in order of priority, we need:

1. New keeper
2. Moly/Haks (ideally both!) or another winger to challenge for the first team
3. Craig replacement, although my gut feeling is that McCann might be done in central midfield with a fully fit Close & Westbrooke
4. Cover for Ironside (a more physical striker than Miller)
5. Another winger if Moly/Haks don't sign on again
6. Cover for RB - Olowu could play there but would be good to have some competition
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 28, 2024, 02:47:39 pm
Neither Close or Westbrook are good enough to slot into the position left by Craig. Neither are tacklers and I think both are more suited to more attacking roles.
We need another partner for Bailey - we don’t have him in the squad! If Biggins is not signing, then both will be challenging Sbarra.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: NickDRFC on May 28, 2024, 03:57:14 pm
Neither Close or Westbrook are good enough to slot into the position left by Craig. Neither are tacklers and I think both are more suited to more attacking roles.
We need another partner for Bailey - we don’t have him in the squad! If Biggins is not signing, then both will be challenging Sbarra.

I agree, but I’ve got a nagging doubt that the reason Close was given a two year deal was to play a deeper role alongside Bailey. Hope I’m wrong, though.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 28, 2024, 05:12:26 pm
It's up to McCann to decide the make up of the midfield to make sure we have the right tools to attack and defend as a unit.

If he can improve the amount of possession we have, then theoretically, there's less need to defend or attack by tackling. Yes, we would expect to be good at moving the ball from back to front efficiently and getting into those attacking areas. When out of possession, we need to press and force the opposition into mistakes. Picking up second balls is a key part of that.

Craig was great in possession with a high pass completion rate, and looked after the ball very well. That can be done without necessary being a good 'tackler'

Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 28, 2024, 05:30:40 pm
We all know it’s up to the manager, but this is a discussion medium and that’s all we’re doing.

By the way, Craig was very good at winning the ball back.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ncRover on May 28, 2024, 07:26:21 pm
Neither Close or Westbrook are good enough to slot into the position left by Craig. Neither are tacklers and I think both are more suited to more attacking roles.
We need another partner for Bailey - we don’t have him in the squad! If Biggins is not signing, then both will be challenging Sbarra.

I agree, but I’ve got a nagging doubt that the reason Close was given a two year deal was to play a deeper role alongside Bailey. Hope I’m wrong, though.

That’s his best position and probably Westbrooke’s. McCann likes a deep playmaker who can receive the ball under pressure and keep it ticking at the moment.

Keeping this group together after the back end of last season will enable progression. The signings have been good as well.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 29, 2024, 04:21:34 pm
Hurst Ironside Gibson
Sbarra
Close Bailey
Maxwell Wood Anderson Sterry
Lawlor

Subs: Jones, Senior, Olowu, McGrath, Broadbent, Westbrooke, Miller



Currently looking like this.

It's definitely the attacking areas that we look light just now - there's only really one proper attacker on the bench there - but that would look very different with Moly &/or Haks on board. For me, in order of priority, we need:

1. New keeper
2. Moly/Haks (ideally both!) or another winger to challenge for the first team
3. Craig replacement, although my gut feeling is that McCann might be done in central midfield with a fully fit Close & Westbrooke
4. Cover for Ironside (a more physical striker than Miller)
5. Another winger if Moly/Haks don't sign on again
6. Cover for RB - Olowu could play there but would be good to have some competition

Agree with this. Now Moly has signed we can tick off number 2. I'd look to bring in a wide player with pace who looks to sit on the shoulder of the last defender for number 5, I think that was a massive plus that Adelakun brought to the team.

Number 3 sounds more likely to be a "Rowe replacement" but at least it's numbers in the building.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ravenrover on May 30, 2024, 10:09:33 am
Is there a remote possibiliyy that after the way GM looked after Craig we might get him back?
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ncRover on May 30, 2024, 10:27:39 am
Is there a remote possibiliyy that after the way GM looked after Craig we might get him back?

If you were advising Craig as a family member would you tell him to play in L2 again?
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: moses on May 30, 2024, 03:31:06 pm
The only chance would be if no one else picked him up and was either us until January or the U23s.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ravenrover on May 30, 2024, 05:39:37 pm
Is there a remote possibiliyy that after the way GM looked after Craig we might get him back?

If you were advising Craig as a family member would you tell him to play in L2 again?
What has it got to do with his family, it's surely down to the club he's contracted to?
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on May 30, 2024, 05:53:36 pm
Is there a remote possibiliyy that after the way GM looked after Craig we might get him back?

If you were advising Craig as a family member would you tell him to play in L2 again?
What has it got to do with his family, it's surely down to the club he's contracted to?


I think Raven was implying that if you had his best intentions to heart you’d steer him upwards.


Unless I’ve got the wrong end of the stick.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ncRover on May 30, 2024, 08:09:40 pm
Is there a remote possibiliyy that after the way GM looked after Craig we might get him back?

If you were advising Craig as a family member would you tell him to play in L2 again?
What has it got to do with his family, it's surely down to the club he's contracted to?


I think Raven was implying that if you had his best intentions to heart you’d steer him upwards.


Unless I’ve got the wrong end of the stick.

Yes that’s what I meant. Anyone outside of Rovers who wanted the best for him. He’s a lot better than League Two.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: colincramb on May 30, 2024, 08:34:42 pm
I think there is very little chance (if any at all) that Craig will be back. Would highly expect spurs would want to test him at league 1 level, at the very least.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: BradwellRover on May 30, 2024, 09:37:42 pm
Given previous experience, I’d expect him to bring in at least 3 loans, which will go a long way towards strengthening the squad.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: AmericanRover on May 30, 2024, 11:56:59 pm
I feel we will bring in at least 4 more players, maybe even more, before the window closes. A lot of people think we can finish top 3 and so do I as long as we get this window right and everyone refocuses again after the playoff defeat.

RTID

Also, as a side note, do you have to be a VSC member in order to change your avatar on here? Or reach a certain amount of posts?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Not Now Kato on May 31, 2024, 10:57:32 am
What we really need is a man who can play every position, never make an error, and knows just what the opposition is planning so he can counter it…. But so far there’s been no way to get him to put down his pie and coke to come down out of the stands!
 
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DonnyOsmond on June 02, 2024, 12:23:04 pm
Update

Gibson Ironside Molyneux
Sbarra
Close Bailey
Maxwell Wood Anderson Sterry
Lawlor

Subs: Jones, Senior, Olowu, Clifton, Westbrooke, Hurst, Miller

Others:
Broadbent
McGrath
Goodman
Faulkner
Kuleya
Degruchy
Sotona
Allen
Flint
Oram
(Straughan-Brown) - Second Year


Currently looking like this.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 02, 2024, 12:26:41 pm
We are missing keeper, right back option, wing option, striker. Those four and we are then done and dusted. Some will be via loans I suspect so might not arrive until much later when EPL close their squads, later this year due to Euros.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DonnyOsmond on June 02, 2024, 12:37:50 pm
We are missing keeper, right back option, wing option, striker. Those four and we are then done and dusted. Some will be via loans I suspect so might not arrive until much later when EPL close their squads, later this year due to Euros.

Agree with that. Think the keeper will be the one we were linked with from Palace on loan, winger could be on loan, right back maybe permanent such as Emmanuel, forward I don't see being young.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ncRover on June 02, 2024, 04:27:37 pm
We are missing keeper, right back option, wing option, striker. Those four and we are then done and dusted. Some will be via loans I suspect so might not arrive until much later when EPL close their squads, later this year due to Euros.

Get a quick left footed forward on loan who can play both wide right and central and that ticks 2 of those off.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 03, 2024, 01:30:06 pm
Update

Gibson Ironside Molyneux
Sbarra
Close Bailey
Maxwell Wood Anderson Sterry
Lawlor

Subs: Jones, Senior, Olowu, Clifton, Westbrooke, Hurst, Miller

Others:
Broadbent
McGrath
Goodman
Faulkner
Kuleya
Degruchy
Sotona
Allen
Flint
Oram
(Straughan-Brown) - Second Year


Currently looking like this.
Requirements stil in order of priority

Goalkeeper
Attacking wide player who can play left or right
Back up front player who can play on his own or a pair
RB cover
Maybe another midfield player

Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: MagicMartinoWoods on June 03, 2024, 05:17:00 pm
I think other than a right back, who should be permanent, it makes sense for any other new additions to be loans.

Loans are useful in that if they aren't working out or the player gets snippy at being benched you can just send them back. Squad harmony is massive in promotion winning teams so you need to get squad balance right.

GM has brought in versatile players - e.g., Sbarra could play on wing and Broadbent or Clifton come into the attacking CM role. Similar for the deeper CM roles, lots of versatility. Same true for centre back with Bailey an option, and Olowu able to move out to RB in a pinch.

There's lots of good talent in our squad that aren't going to want to be third choice for their position and Grant is aiming for a leaner squad than last year. Mcgrath and Faulkner as number 4 and 5 at CB (or 5 and 6 if GM would play Bailey ahead of them) is about right, we don't need anymore CBs unless we don't think Wood can hack as many games this year.

I'd love to get a  permanent GK, but more likely will be a loan. So a permanent RB, then loan GK, CF, winger, and possibly CM, and you've got space for extra loans in case of an injury.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: The Dav on June 03, 2024, 06:04:43 pm
I’ve heard that Hull are massively investing this year ! I work over there and the figure bounced about is £70 million, if indeed this is the case maybe they’ll release or offload TLT ! Thoughts ?
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on June 03, 2024, 07:27:48 pm
Just need a keeper and right back for me. Not a fan of huge squads as it just dilutes the quality.

Obviously if a quality loan comes available like what Craig was you take them no matter the position.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DonnyOsmond on June 03, 2024, 08:30:41 pm
Connor Barrett would be a brilliant acquisition for right back in a McCann team.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 03, 2024, 10:31:06 pm
Just need a keeper and right back for me. Not a fan of huge squads as it just dilutes the quality.

Obviously if a quality loan comes available like what Craig was you take them no matter the position.
We have 19 first team players the rest are not ready for a top of the table side so yes we need more quality loan or permanent
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: Danmckay456 on June 03, 2024, 10:34:37 pm
I’m sure I read that Grant wants a squad of 22 but with more competition in every position if that’s the case then another 3 players then unless some get moves away we can’t be far away
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: selby on June 04, 2024, 08:26:59 am
  Flint will be the back up right back possibly, he has been schooled in that position in training and in the u18s since Christmas last, and Faulkner made his debut at right back but moved central because of injury and later centre forward in desperation in the same game and caused havoc in the area resulting in us getting two late goals and winning the game.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: drfcsteve on June 04, 2024, 06:41:18 pm
If Faulkner was better than our current centre backs / right backs I imagine McCann would pick him.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: DonnyOsmond on June 04, 2024, 07:35:54 pm
Faulkner needs to get 30+ games under his belt this coming season ideally, get him a National League club on loan and get him some experience.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: drfchound on June 04, 2024, 07:58:10 pm
I think that the same applies to Jones.
He needs a full season as number one for a National League or even NLN club.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: selby on June 05, 2024, 02:23:47 pm
  He will be given every chance to be a starter here, it is up to him to prove better than the others for a starting place.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: EasyforDennis on June 05, 2024, 02:30:41 pm
I would keep Jones as number 2 and send Lawlor out on loan if anyone would take him.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: ForsolongaRover on June 05, 2024, 04:51:44 pm
A spare Goalkeeper or Goalkeepers who are not up to the standard is a heavy weight to carry as we are now experiencing.

It surely makes a lot of sense to use loans from the large pool of number 3s at Championship level and number 4s at PL clubs. If you’re a number 3 you don’t get many games and the very nature of a good goalkeeper will typically lead him to want regular games which means he’ll want his availability for a loan written into his contract. This is risk-free and probably less expensive for us than trying to get another one on a permanent deal.
Title: Re: Team depth
Post by: drfcsteve on June 06, 2024, 07:16:45 am
Very true, all our best keepers at this level have been loans.