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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Chris Black come back on May 27, 2024, 03:00:51 pm
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Signed from Carlisle United.
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Decent player. Right footed, maybe no Hakeeb after all?
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He was at Carlisle season just gone but was released. Free transfer.
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Bradford fans seem amused by this signing. Assume it didn’t work out well when he was there. Am sure McCann will have him firing.
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Has he got a YouTube highlights reel with a Eurobeat soundtrack?
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Another suprise signing I'm guessing 1 of the 3 has either turned the contract down or time is up
Carlisle fans saying he has an attitude problem, he won't with McCann in charge that will get focused into positive games
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Carlisle were very poor last season and finished rock bottom of League One but this lad was their top scorer.
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Bradford fans seem amused by this signing. Assume it didn’t work out well when he was there. Am sure McCann will have him firing.
He left Bradford 4 years ago, aged 22. I trust McCann's judgement over theirs.
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Surprised Carlisle released him to be honest. I know he's been struggling with some personal issues, but his release appeared a bit kneejerk in response to their relegation. Would guess he'll be coming with a point to prove. So wish him best of luck. Up The Rovers!
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Decent player. Right footed, maybe no Hakeeb after all?
Perhaps or maybe no Molyneux and McCann wants a right footer on right to put in some crosses?
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Or maybe Haks and Moly both signing which would give him 2 players for each position as GM always says he wants?
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I know little of him but having had a quick search he looks interesting. Decent experience and Goal return in the league anbove. Interested to hear Gaz’ background on him. Hope it doesn’t mean Haks is going elsewhere, but suspect it might.
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I know little of him but having had a quick search he looks interesting. Decent experience and Goal return in the league anbove. Interested to hear Gaz’ background on him. Hope it doesn’t mean Haks is going elsewhere, but suspect it might.
More likely Molly.
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Watching the highlight reel on twitter, he reminds me of mcindoe
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It looks more and more likely that Adelakun and Molyneux are signing elsewhere. I just hope they've got fixed up with League 1 clubs. I'd be bitterly disappointed if they sign for clubs in our league!
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Clips show him playing on left. So maybe Haks is off and Gibson and Hurst to compete for left hand side?
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He created the most “big chances” in League 2 in the 22/23 season.
According to transfermarkt he played most of last season either on the left wing or central attacking midfield. Before that he was more central.
This makes Haks / Biggins less likely, not Molyneux.
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Apparently his dad’s a bit of a bad influence on him
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In his interview McCann says he sees him playing anywhere across the front line. Not sure we can read too much into either Adelakun/Moly specifically but my guess is at least one of them will be off.
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The one thing you can't seemingly deny based on past experience is McCann's eye for a wide forward, so I'll trust him on this one.
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Maybe he’s been given the number 7 shirt. His Twitter name is Gibson7.
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Despite Carlisle’s struggles last year he had decent stats for winning the ball back. Which is what McCann looks for as well.
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Apparently his dad’s a bit of a bad influence on him
According to who?
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Maybe he’s been given the number 7 shirt. His Twitter name is Gibson7.
LM10
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Maybe he’s been given the number 7 shirt. His Twitter name is Gibson7.
Existing name? he was 7 at Carlisle
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Looks very similar to Moly in terms of style.
That worries me tbh.
Feels like Moly's off.
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Maybe he’s been given the number 7 shirt. His Twitter name is Gibson7.
Existing name? he was 7 at Carlisle
Yes, I know. It might show that, given a choice, he prefers the number 7 shirt if it’s available. Which it might be.
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Looks very similar to Moly in terms of style.
That worries me tbh.
Feels like Moly's off.
See reply #16. Moly’s position is his least common position.
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Apparently his dad’s a bit of a bad influence on him
According to who?
Carlisle fans
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Just replacing Sotona ??
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Just replacing Sotona ??
And Jon Taylor ;)
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Molly on the plane home today so hopefully he is reporting to GM in the morning and signing up
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What's this stuff about his dad liking a five knuckle shuffle?
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Is numbers for the last three years have been really good. Not had time to look properly but last years in L1 were very very good. Carlisle shouldn’t have released him. That’s our gain.
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Is numbers for the last three years have been really good. Not had time to look properly but last years in L1 were very very good. Carlisle shouldn’t have released him. That’s our gain.
This is what I like to hear.
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Is numbers for the last three years have been really good. Not had time to look properly but last years in L1 were very very good. Carlisle shouldn’t have released him. That’s our gain.
He says in his interview this has been in the works for a while. My guess is given the season Carlisle have had he just rejected them flat out early on, as he felt he had better on the table from us and a few other clubs.
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It might not be a case of replacing Haks and Moly; we may well be simply building a stronger squad.
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Is numbers for the last three years have been really good. Not had time to look properly but last years in L1 were very very good. Carlisle shouldn’t have released him. That’s our gain.
He says in his interview this has been in the works for a while. My guess is given the season Carlisle have had he just rejected them flat out early on, as he felt he had better on the table from us and a few other clubs.
If that’s the case then it doesn't say a lot about his character. If the going gets tough is he up for the challenge?
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An interesting signing as it automatically sends us all of on a wild goose chase on what’s happening with Haks/Mols! I’d like to think that he’s more of a Taylor replacement (that means I’m very much hoping), as to have Adelakun, Hurst, Molyneux and Gibson would be a terrifying prospect for most L2 teams next season. Obviously with 2 playing and 2 on the bench, chomping at the bit to get on. If only!
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An interesting signing as it automatically sends us all of on a wild goose chase on what’s happening with Haks/Mols! I’d like to think that he’s more of a Taylor replacement (that means I’m very much hoping), as to have Adelakun, Hurst, Molyneux and Gibson would be a terrifying prospect for most L2 teams next season. Obviously with 2 playing and 2 on the bench, chomping at the bit to get on. If only!
Im voting for Alan
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Is numbers for the last three years have been really good. Not had time to look properly but last years in L1 were very very good. Carlisle shouldn’t have released him. That’s our gain.
He says in his interview this has been in the works for a while. My guess is given the season Carlisle have had he just rejected them flat out early on, as he felt he had better on the table from us and a few other clubs.
If that’s the case then it doesn't say a lot about his character. If the going gets tough is he up for the challenge?
He was out of contract and has picked a team he’s judged to have a better chance of going up. I don’t know how we can make any judgment on his character from that. Seems like what any footballer would do.
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Is numbers for the last three years have been really good. Not had time to look properly but last years in L1 were very very good. Carlisle shouldn’t have released him. That’s our gain.
He says in his interview this has been in the works for a while. My guess is given the season Carlisle have had he just rejected them flat out early on, as he felt he had better on the table from us and a few other clubs.
If that’s the case then it doesn't say a lot about his character. If the going gets tough is he up for the challenge?
Given that he seemingly put good performances in despite playing in a struggling team, you could argue that he is up for the challenge.
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It might not be a case of replacing Haks and Moly; we may well be simply building a stronger squad.
Agreed; Haks and Moly were given a deadline. Surely until that expires you would not be “replacing” either of them.
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What's this stuff about his dad liking a five knuckle shuffle?
His dad has got swear f all to do with the lad playing football
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Not sure about him "personally" having just watched the interview. I can't remember a professional footballer referring to his new manager by his first name. I'm sure he said "Grant showed me some videos" wow attitude. The gaffer, the boss, the manager not by his first name. Wow. I'm hoping his football is as arrogant.
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We have had a section set up for quite a while that looks at all the stats the background of players and attitude like most clubs now and do the analytical methods to assess players recommended to the club.
Can't say we were particularly good at those things before, but we are up with it now, the club is moving forward as the game demands in more than one way, as the shop front advances (the first team) the foundation of the club and the back up has to move forward as well.
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What's this stuff about his dad liking a five knuckle shuffle?
His dad has got swear f all to do with the lad playing football
Well it kind of does doesn't it. Can't imagine it going down well with the club if his dad gets too involved with the fans at the ground and social media.
Also embarrassing for the lad about allegations/rumours of his dad's nocturnal activities becoming public knowledge.
Maybe his dad needs to back away and let the lad concentrate on his football.
I'm sure GM and his team will be aware of this and have assurances that Gibson senior won't be a problem.
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Is numbers for the last three years have been really good. Not had time to look properly but last years in L1 were very very good. Carlisle shouldn’t have released him. That’s our gain.
He says in his interview this has been in the works for a while. My guess is given the season Carlisle have had he just rejected them flat out early on, as he felt he had better on the table from us and a few other clubs.
If that’s the case then it doesn't say a lot about his character. If the going gets tough is he up for the challenge?
As others have said this is just what footballers do. Imagine it's happening right now with Biggins, Molyneux and Adelakun. If they think we're the best option for them they'll sign. If not, they won't. Nature of the beast.
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
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I know you shouldn’t get too excited by highlights but he looks really, really good.
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Jordan has said this on Twitter about his dad;
Also seen many things for many years and kept quiet so will say it once.
Not lived with my dad for about 22 years and not had massive amount of contact in that time.
Anything that’s said on any other account than this isn’t from myself or my own views
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Sounds promising. We've tied him down for 3 years too which is another positive.
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Not overly worried about what happens if Moly or Haks stays or goes now. Yes if they go we need to add depth but this lad was doing well for a poor team the division above so is a very good signing.
Hurst is also a top talent so I won’t be panicking if Haks and Moly leave. If they stay were going to have some firepower
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Recruitment now vs last few summers.
As good a manager he is and as poor a budget he may have had, summer 2021 under Wellens was absolutely shocking for a professional club.
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Now, I don't know whether the stats on Transfermarket are accurate, but it says last season he scored 7 goals and 3 assists. On face value, 3 assists for a 'winger' seems quite poor (albeit Carlisle were struggling)
I welcome him and trust McCann's judgement but, if he's to help us get promoted, we need a better return than that, don't you think?
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Better than Haks defensively ?
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Now, I don't know whether the stats on Transfermarket are accurate, but it says last season he scored 7 goals and 3 assists. On face value, 3 assists for a 'winger' seems quite poor (albeit Carlisle were struggling)
I welcome him and trust McCann's judgement but, if he's to help us get promoted, we need a better return than that, don't you think?
Maybe their strikers on the end of everything were useless
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Better than Haks defensively ?
Probably fair to say defensive duties not a strength for Hakeeb.
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Now, I don't know whether the stats on Transfermarket are accurate, but it says last season he scored 7 goals and 3 assists. On face value, 3 assists for a 'winger' seems quite poor (albeit Carlisle were struggling)
I welcome him and trust McCann's judgement but, if he's to help us get promoted, we need a better return than that, don't you think?
Wasn’t he also their top scorer? Says a lot about what he had available to ‘assist.’ I’m feeling excited by this one the more I see. Also sad that he’s had to make that statement about his family and the abuse he gets. It can be a sad and cruel world we live in. Hopefully he can leave that one there, get lots of support from us and produce the goods over the coming seasons. Statistics say quite an astute addition.
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What's this stuff about his dad liking a five knuckle shuffle?
Is his dad Ronnie Robinson?
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I know you shouldn’t get too excited by highlights but he looks really, really good.
looking at the highlights reel, some of his defence splitting passes were sublime..
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Now, I don't know whether the stats on Transfermarket are accurate, but it says last season he scored 7 goals and 3 assists. On face value, 3 assists for a 'winger' seems quite poor (albeit Carlisle were struggling)
I welcome him and trust McCann's judgement but, if he's to help us get promoted, we need a better return than that, don't you think?
That's why Expected Assists is good, he could be putting balls on plates for easy tap ins but if the strikers aren't putting them away then of course his assist numbers wont look great, and his xA will outweigh his Assists, which is Gibson's case.
It's smarter to sign the player who has xA of 8 with 4 assists than the player with xA of 4 with 9 assists, the latter may have had a better finisher in front of him.
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What's this stuff about his dad liking a five knuckle shuffle?
Is his dad Ronnie Robinson?
Lol
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Better than Haks defensively ?
A lot.
His xA was 0.16/ 90 and actually assists 0.11 /90.
He was playing in a relegated side as well.
Him and Owen Moxon were their best players.
His previous two seasons in L2 were also good. Very creative. Assist and key pass master.
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Better than Haks defensively ?
A lot.
His xA was 0.16/ 90 and actually assists 0.11 /90.
He was playing in a relegated side as well.
Him and Owen Moxon were their best players.
His previous two seasons in L2 were also good. Very creative. Assist and key pass master.
Very aggressive in the press too. McCann will be happy.
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Yes he does look an exciting signing ATR experienced and a good player from the looks of it.
Another two or three like the first two signings in the right positions and we can look forward to being in the mix next season.
One thing in our favour over the last few seasons is the manager has a clear view of how he wants us to play, and for the first time has the time to put together players to suit his style of play, with a nucleus from last season still here and new players of the right style, and hopefully match his ambition.
Exciting times ahead I hope.
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We desperately.need one signing that doesn't need to be exciting
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I think we’ve found one here by the way. Really impressive the more I look. Direct, great dribbler, can win it back, good crosser, 0.4 xG + xA/90 in L1 which is great. Feels like a perfect GM winger.
Now, I don't know whether the stats on Transfermarket are accurate, but it says last season he scored 7 goals and 3 assists. On face value, 3 assists for a 'winger' seems quite poor (albeit Carlisle were struggling)
I welcome him and trust McCann's judgement but, if he's to help us get promoted, we need a better return than that, don't you think?
Yes I agree we do, but Carlisle only scored 41 goals last year, with 7 goals and 3 assists he was directly involved in 25% of them, a point GM made during his interview. We scored 73 in the normal league games so if he keeps the same % up he would be at 18 goals/assists which I think we would all be happy at?
Read a lot about bad attitude and going out on piss, not pulling his weight. I am not concerned about any of it. If GM sees that he will be off.
From his stats in a poor team and the highlights reel (easy to show good bits) from league above I would say he looks a very good signing and DRFC showing real intent again. Seeing some of the crosses he puts in looks perfect for Joe and throygh balls for Miller aswell. The first two signings look really positive.
I would love for Moly/Haks to sign would be an unstoppable attack IMO. Imagine bringing this lad and Hurst on after Moly/Haks hard tired em out......and/or vice versa!
Exciting times.
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Remember we want two players for each position so we've now got two wingers signed up and Sbarra who can play there. Even if the other two sign there's room for all 4.
This one on paper as gazlaz says is good value Vs his stats. He's an upgrade on the Barlow, seaman, sotona types for sure.
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Remember we want two players for each position so we've now got two wingers signed up and Sbarra who can play there. Even if the other two sign there's room for all 4.
This one on paper as gazlaz says is good value Vs his stats. He's an upgrade on the Barlow, seaman, sotona types for sure.
Best permanent signing on historical form since Tommy Rowe mk1. Maybe Jon Taylor actually. Either way, better than we are used to.
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Remember we want two players for each position so we've now got two wingers signed up and Sbarra who can play there. Even if the other two sign there's room for all 4.
This one on paper as gazlaz says is good value Vs his stats. He's an upgrade on the Barlow, seaman, sotona types for sure.
Best permanent signing on historical form since Tommy Rowe mk1. Maybe Jon Taylor actually. Either way, better than we are used to.
”……..better than we are used to.”
That’s an unnecessary ‘slap in the face’ for Ironside, Bailey & Sterry.
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Remember we want two players for each position so we've now got two wingers signed up and Sbarra who can play there. Even if the other two sign there's room for all 4.
This one on paper as gazlaz says is good value Vs his stats. He's an upgrade on the Barlow, seaman, sotona types for sure.
Best permanent signing on historical form since Tommy Rowe mk1. Maybe Jon Taylor actually. Either way, better than we are used to.
”……..better than we are used to.”
That’s an unnecessary ‘slap in the face’ for Ironside, Bailey & Sterry.
This lad is proven at a higher level. Bailey and Sterry were not.
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I don't know if this has been posted here or not. https://x.com/Gibson7_/status/1795150037585936715?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1795150306839310828%7Ctwgr%5Ed94498c2f6b65434f750eb1f102b9bff5eae8d9d%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefootballforum.net%2Fthreads%2Fleague-2-transfer-rumours-confirmed-transfers-2023-24.9%2Fpage-1649
Jordan Gibson
@Gibson7_
Also seen many things for many years and kept quiet so will say it once.
Not lived with my dad for about 22 years and not had massive amount of contact in that time.
Anything that’s said on any other account than this isn’t from myself or my own views
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Just what is the issue with his dad, can't really find anything?
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Who cares.? It’s what he does on the pitch that counts..
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No idea what this issue with his dad is. The only thing I can see is that fans of previous clubs have said he’s had a bad attitude. Hopefully he’s grown up or Grant can manage him.
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Sounds like Bradford fans don’t like his dad? Can’t find anything that says why they don’t though?
Also reading the Carlisle forum, Gibson was fined and taken out of the matchday squad towards the end of the season as he was out drinking 36 hours before a game. Did he already know he was coming here and didn’t really care? Hopefully McCann can keep him involved and interested, to keep him out of similar situations with us.
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If McCann could get the best out of Mallik Wilks when he had the court case hanging over him I'm confident that whatever issues Gibson has had will be managed effectively.
The Copps mindset coaching could be valuable too.
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I was asking a City fan in the gym in Bradford about him this morning. He said that he was a good exciting player. He said that he used to wind away fans up which was funny. It didn’t go down well when he scored for Carlisle against City though and he put his hand to his ear at City fans.
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I was asking a City fan in the gym in Bradford about him this morning. He said that he was a good exciting player. He said that he used to wind away fans up which was funny. It didn’t go down well when he scored for Carlisle against City though and he put his hand to his ear at City fans.
Yeh, it looks like Bradford fans didn’t like it…
https://x.com/chris_ca2/status/1480118620328009728?s=46&t=NW2HQZbSZTCyeJVxHL-jUg
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Who cares.? It’s what he does on the pitch that counts..
Not entirely true IDM, remember Niall Mason.
I am not saying we will have problems, Jordan is older now and I am sure Grant and others at the club will manage him well and give support if and whenever necessary - we are a renowned family club after all.
Just politely disagreeing with your blanket statement, IMHO extreme off field events can have consequences.
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I was asking a City fan in the gym in Bradford about him this morning. He said that he was a good exciting player. He said that he used to wind away fans up which was funny. It didn’t go down well when he scored for Carlisle against City though and he put his hand to his ear at City fans.
Yeh, it looks like Bradford fans didn’t like it…
https://x.com/chris_ca2/status/1480118620328009728?s=46&t=NW2HQZbSZTCyeJVxHL-jUg
HA!,funny listening to that fan,"I'll kill you!" , "I hate you!" , it wasn't as if he was near enough to hear what he was shouting :laugh:
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I was asking a City fan in the gym in Bradford about him this morning. He said that he was a good exciting player. He said that he used to wind away fans up which was funny. It didn’t go down well when he scored for Carlisle against City though and he put his hand to his ear at City fans.
Yeh, it looks like Bradford fans didn’t like it…
https://x.com/chris_ca2/status/1480118620328009728?s=46&t=NW2HQZbSZTCyeJVxHL-jUg
HA!,funny listening to that fan,"I'll kill you!" , "I hate you!" , it wasn't as if he was near enough to hear what he was shouting :laugh:
That's right, Drover. However, it can be more detectable with smaller crowds. I remember once when Billy Whitehurst was playing for Mossley against Frickley. One of the Frickley fans shouted "You dirty b*st*rd, Whitehurst". Billy walked up to the crowd and pointed him out, saying "I'll see you after the game".
When the final whistle blew, I've never seen anyone shift to the exits as quick as that gobshite from the crowd.
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I am sure some of our fans in the pop side said worse things to McIntyre when he scored in the Chester play off semi
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I was asking a City fan in the gym in Bradford about him this morning. He said that he was a good exciting player. He said that he used to wind away fans up which was funny. It didn’t go down well when he scored for Carlisle against City though and he put his hand to his ear at City fans.
Yeh, it looks like Bradford fans didn’t like it…
https://x.com/chris_ca2/status/1480118620328009728?s=46&t=NW2HQZbSZTCyeJVxHL-jUg
Superbly taken goal by Jordan.
Bradford fans sounded interesting folk!
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Who cares.? It’s what he does on the pitch that counts..
Not entirely true IDM, remember Niall Mason.
I am not saying we will have problems, Jordan is older now and I am sure Grant and others at the club will manage him well and give support if and whenever necessary - we are a renowned family club after all.
Just politely disagreeing with your blanket statement, IMHO extreme off field events can have consequences.
Fair point..
Perhaps I should have said who cares what his dad does. I agree there are things we cannot accept players doing.
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Didn't do Jamie Tart any harm in the long run!