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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Alan Southstand on June 12, 2024, 05:59:06 pm
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Getting excited on Twitter!
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TSL
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Strange one this, a bit underwelming tbh
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Why underwhelming?
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Cant see how its underwhelming, seems highley rated at chelsea.
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To be honest, I was underwhelmed when TLT signed and look how that turned out.
Trust GM, he knows his onions
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Chelsea and England.
Also wanted by Notts County.
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Just signed a new contract at Chelsea so he can’t be bad!
His distribution will be good if a top 6 team wants him.
Football manager has him at 6 foot 4 so should command his box as well.
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Wiki says 6 feet 2.
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He’s a growing lad!
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Has to be Sheringhams old chant surely.
Oh Teddy Teddy
Teddy teddy teddy Sharman-Lowe
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Cant see how its underwhelming, seems highley rated at chelsea.
Was hoping for a bit more experience at first team football & a bit of a “unit” like TLT. Time will tell, hopefully a shrewd move. Grant knows how much a solid keeper helped turn our season round.
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So whats the GK name?
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Teddy Sherman lowe, former England u20 keeper..
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Teddy Sharman-Lowe
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Where has this been confirmed? Nothing on DROS, nothing on Newsnow.
His last loan at Bromley produced one appearance in 6 months.
We'll just have to trust GM on this one.
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Yep, also not heard or seen anything about this one including on Twitter (X) as posted.. ??
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No confirmation. His agent was at the EcoPower today and plonked a photo on Twitter with a message “a quick trip up North” or words to that effect. Then there were other tweets that mentioned 2 keepers, one of which was TSL.
2+2=6?
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2+2=6?
No it's 4 mate....... :whistle:
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2+2=6?
No it's 4 mate....... :whistle:
Bloody hell, Micky, can't you do basic maths?
Everyone knows it's 5.
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That’s inflation for you!
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TSL?
If this was Wordle would that be 2 letters correct of which 1 in the right position :lol:
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I suppose this is the likely option - a loanee from a PL club.
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His agent has also posted on instagram with a picture of the empty interview chair with cameras set up. Unless he has other appropriate players on his books, one can only assume this is the incoming lad.
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I really wish we’d address the keeper situation properly instead of loans. We could be back in the same position next summer.
I wonder which of Lawlor and Jones will be leaving.
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How about TLT signed permanent with Teddy as the number 2 for the season and both jones and Lawlor out on loan /the door?
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How about TLT signed permanent with Teddy as the number 2 for the season and both jones and Lawlor out on loan /the door?
Don’t know if we’d get someone to pay Lawler’s wages, with his recent CV anyway. So it would be a lot of the budget gone on keepers.
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I really wish we’d address the keeper situation properly instead of loans. We could be back in the same position next summer.
I wonder which of Lawlor and Jones will be leaving.
Didn’t we do that last summer and look where that got us
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I really wish we’d address the keeper situation properly instead of loans. We could be back in the same position next summer.
I wonder which of Lawlor and Jones will be leaving.
So what is the problem with being in the “same position”? What do you think is the answer? The best keepers tend to be swept up by EFL Championship clubs and PL clubs. They have 3 or even 4 on their books. How likely is it that you can find really good material elsewhere? I think loans are the best option.
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Still makes me wonder what the plan is for both keepers. The keeper kit is out and neither of them has done the photoshoot to promote it.
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Still makes me wonder what the plan is for both keepers. The keeper kit is out and neither of them has done the photoshoot to promote it.
Very good point
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I really wish we’d address the keeper situation properly instead of loans. We could be back in the same position next summer.
I wonder which of Lawlor and Jones will be leaving.
Loan keeper is a no brainer for me, look at the quality loans we've had in recent years vs contracted keepers.
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Imagine we'll sign a permanent keeper next season with the other 2 contracted still.
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Still makes me wonder what the plan is for both keepers. The keeper kit is out and neither of them has done the photoshoot to promote it.
Jones dropped his and lawlor injured himself putting it on
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So is this happening or should it be in the rumours section?
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His agent is busting a gut to tell everyone!
Just on twitter - “news incoming”
Wait for it.
Update - Andy Giddings at R/S now saying he ‘understands’ we are about to sign Teddy Sherman-Lowe.
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His agent is busting a gut to tell everyone!
Just on twitter - “news incoming”
Wait for it.
Update - Andy Giddings at R/S now saying he ‘understands’ we are about to sign Teddy Sherman-Lowe.
Sounds like a Mid-Western evangelical minister.
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It looks like Sharman-Lowe is set to go down as the latest entrant to the McGammon/Adelukan/Woods club.
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Sounds like a Mid-Western evangelical minister.
Good with crosses?
;)
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It looks like Sharman-Lowe is set to go down as the latest entrant to the McGammon/Adelukan/Woods club.
Is that first one a new Pork burger? :lol:
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Anyone know why he didn’t play last year at Bromley ? Was he injured or just not first team ?
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Sounds like a Mid-Western evangelical minister.
Good with crosses?
;)
Better than a deep southern minister,then he'd be very bad with crosses,but would like wearing a long white tunic.
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It looks like Sharman-Lowe is set to go down as the latest entrant to the McGammon/Adelukan/Woods club.
Wonder if we've got a full XI? "Oluwu" tends to be one.
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It looks like Sharman-Lowe is set to go down as the latest entrant to the McGammon/Adelukan/Woods club.
Wonder if we've got a full XI? "Oluwu" tends to be one.
Allowing for use of transfer listed and youth players and a mix-up of Hurst & Broadbent:
Lawler
Oluwu, Woods, Falkner, Allan
Sparra, Westbrook, Broadhurst
Sultana, Jeboah, Molyneaux
:lol: :lol: :scarf: :scarf:
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https://youtu.be/9Kbfgjj5oM8?feature=shared
Looks pretty useful I this clip
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Media team must be on holiday!
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It's a strange one this. No confirmation or announcement anywhere. Also, was he really not good enough to get into the first team at Bromley?
He couldn't have been injured, or he would have been recalled back to Chelsea for treatment, which he wasn't.
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It's a strange one this. No confirmation or announcement anywhere. Also, was he really not good enough to get into the first team at Bromley?
He couldn't have been injured, or he would have been recalled back to Chelsea for treatment, which he wasn't.
Good point there, he was at Bromley almost 5 months of a playing season and 1 appearance, very odd
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Grant Smith was always going to be number 1 at Bromley and didn't get injured all season. Chelsea recalled TSL in Jan so he could carry on in PL2
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He was probably just there as back up 3rd or 4th choice keeper in case of injuries. As it turned out the first choice keeper played almost every game and they got promoted. Hardly going to drop him to have a look at the 3rd or 4th choice lad who isn’t their player anyway.
Interesting to see they also had Bergkamp and Byron Webster.
Edit: beat me to it 5mins
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He was probably just there as back up 3rd or 4th choice keeper in case of injuries. As it turned out the first choice keeper played almost every game and they got promoted. Hardly going to drop him to have a look at the 3rd or 4th choice lad who isn’t their player anyway.
Interesting to see they also had Bergkamp and Byron Webster.
Edit: beat me to it 5mins
3rd or 4th choice keeper for a National League team?
Hardly a wise choice for a team that's aiming for the League 2 title.
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Can't see him coming here to warm the bench JMHO
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First choice at start of season but got injured. Didn’t get place back. Returned to Chelsea January.
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Confirmed on DRFC official Twitter site
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Official
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Need to get jones out on a season loan now at national league and let him be number 1 for a year somewhere
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Looks class on that clip
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He’s a big unit at 6’4ft. Can play a bit as well by sounds of it. Looks a good signing on paper
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Welcome big lad
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
Raven, are you serious?!
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Welcome to our club. I agree that Jones should be number 2.
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
I don’t think players need to be homegrown by us just homegrown in this country. I’m pretty sure we meet that quota easily. Someone please clarify
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McCann keeping his cards close to his chest that this gives us great competition with 4 keepers on the books.
But surely one goes out now.
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
I don’t think players need to be homegrown by us just homegrown in this country. I’m pretty sure we meet that quota easily. Someone please clarify
I believe there are two categories of player - 'Home Grown' and 'Club Developed'. There have to be a number of 'Home Grown and indeed that is simply nationality qualification. But there also needs to be one 'Club Developed' player in the match day squad of 18, and for us that means has played in one of our club's youth teams. Jones qualifies, but apart from him we only have Goodman, Kuleya, and I think De Gruchy as well as the current youth players including Oram, Allen, Flint and Straugham- Brown. So keeping Jones (or Oram) in the 18 would effectively allow one extra senior outfield player.
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
I don’t think players need to be homegrown by us just homegrown in this country. I’m pretty sure we meet that quota easily. Someone please clarify
I believe there are two categories of player - 'Home Grown' and 'Club Developed'. There have to be a number of 'Home Grown and indeed that is simply nationality qualification. But there also needs to be one 'Club Developed' player in the match day squad of 18, and for us that means has played in one of our club's youth teams. Jones qualifies, but apart from him we only have Goodman, Kuleya, and I think De Gruchy as well as the current youth players including Oram, Allen, Flint and Straugham- Brown. So keeping Jones (or Oram) in the 18 would effectively allow one extra senior outfield player.
Thank you DU.
Would Jay McGrath qualify as ‘club developed’ due to starting out at the club as a youngster?
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Very good point about McGrath. May well be the case ncR
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Being slightly honest I am a little underwhelmed by this signing.
Being totally honest I am gutted that we aren't after TLT permanent.
BUT Grant starts by saying he believes we have signed one of the best up and coming keepers in England.
So, in GM I trust.
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He describes himself primarily as box dominating. For me that’s the most important quality that sets a goalkeeper apart. I hope he’s as good as his word there. I do have some trepidation that it’s a risk given lack of senior experience, but let’s hope it pays off. It’s such a key position for us and he has big gloves to fill after TLT went back.
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He describes himself primarily as box dominating. For me that’s the most important quality that sets a goalkeeper apart. I hope he’s as good as his word there. I do have some trepidation that it’s a risk given lack of senior experience, but let’s hope it pays off. It’s such a key position for us and he has big gloves to fill after TLT went back.
Agree with all that especially regards box dominating and big gloves to fill!!!
Our current crop are NOT box dominating which has been the issue.
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Going on GM’s interview, he said Oram will probably be going out on a development loan to gain experience. As for the other 2, I can’t see both hanging around, but who knows!
As for TLT, I would have loved him back here, but hasn’t he gone on record as wanting a Club L1 or higher? Obviously his short stay here has given him the confidence to seek a higher grade of football.
How anyone can be underwhelmed is beyond me, as we’ve not seen him perform yet. That’s the only way to form any opinion - go watch him for a few games and then let’s see.
In his interview he says one of his strengths in taking control of his box, so that’s a good place to start. His next thing was his distribution and he says he’s good in that area and a good shot-stopper. Sounds ok, so now we just need to see him put those things into practice!
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Going on GM’s interview, he said Oram will probably be going out on a development loan to gain experience. As for the other 2, I can’t see both hanging around, but who knows!
As for TLT, I would have loved him back here, but hasn’t he gone on record as wanting a Club L1 or higher? Obviously his short stay here has given him the confidence to seek a higher grade of football.
How anyone can be underwhelmed is beyond me, as we’ve not seen him perform yet. That’s the only way to form any opinion - go watch him for a few games and then let’s see.
In his interview he says one of his strengths in taking control of his box, so that’s a good place to start. His next thing was his distribution and he says he’s good in that area and a good shot-stopper. Sounds ok, so now we just need to see him put those things into practice!
Of course we can be underwhelmed or overwhelmed by a signing, that's the whole point BEFORE you see them????
Then you can make a proper judgement when you see them????
I hope the kid is amazing and I trust in GM. I will find out a few games in.
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https://burtonbrewers.proboards.com/thread/4228/teddy-sharman-lowe this was when he left Burton
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
Raven, are you serious?!
So who do you want as No 2?
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https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/tsl-signing-vid/
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Another three initial keeper. #trend \
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
Raven, are you serious?!
Yep, see #64 for more clarification
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Being slightly honest I am a little underwhelmed by this signing.
Being totally honest I am gutted that we aren't after TLT permanent.
BUT Grant starts by saying he believes we have signed one of the best up and coming keepers in England.
So, in GM I trust.
TLT has made it clear that he doesn't see his future here, whether we try to buy him or not. He's wanting to push himself into the Hull City first team and, given they're selling off 2 keepers this Summer, he's a reasonable chance.
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
Raven, are you serious?!
So who do you want as No 2?
Neither really, but Jones is a conference north keeper at best. I wish him well in the future. Great shot stopper but lacks a presence and his distribution is poor.
So for me Lawlor
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GM Has a real eye for a player but i was really shocked when we signed Lawlor back, To say he had spent most of his youth working with the best goalkeeping coaches money can buy at Man City I though he was very poor for us. And his career has been nothing special wherever he ended up since he left.
He also didn't really impress me on his return before he got injured and I suspect the upgrade when TLT came in has convinced GM that maybe bringing him back was a mistake. However as the saying goes, you don't knock a coconut down everytime.
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
Raven, are you serious?!
So who do you want as No 2?
Neither really, but Jones is a conference north keeper at best. I wish him well in the future. Great shot stopper but lacks a presence and his distribution is poor.
So for me Lawlor
This is the second time I’ve seen this. I don’t know what people are basing this off!
He is deficient in other areas such as crosses and set pieces, but Louis Jones has good distribution.
See our 1st goal here v MK
https://youtu.be/5MMLYsVd7fo?si=t5mey0VcpThlHoPw
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The stats say Jones actually claims more high balls than Lawlor.
1.01 per 90 compared to Lawlor’s 0.52 per 90.
It’s actually Lawlor who is the marginally better shot stopper according to the stats.
Lawlor shot save percentage 63%
Jones shot save percentage 60 %
Lawlor will be happy to stay as a no.2 at this level. But I doubt Jones will.
Obviously the stats say TLT was better in all aspects though, and that ultimately kept the clean sheets and pushed us on.
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
Raven, are you serious?!
So who do you want as No 2?
Neither really, but Jones is a conference north keeper at best. I wish him well in the future. Great shot stopper but lacks a presence and his distribution is poor.
So for me Lawlor
This is the second time I’ve seen this. I don’t know what people are basing this off!
He is deficient in other areas such as crosses and set pieces, but Louis Jones has good distribution.
See our 1st goal here v MK
https://youtu.be/5MMLYsVd7fo?si=t5mey0VcpThlHoPw
It's based on what I see.
Everyone have good distribution, it's consistency that is key.
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The young keeper we have can go out on loan to non-league somewhere, it will do him good, Lawlor I would pay off, and then we are left with an England standard goalie and one who is adequate but not quite good enough.
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The young keeper we have can go out on loan to non-league somewhere, it will do him good, Lawlor I would pay off, and then we are left with an England standard goalie and one who is adequate but not quite good enough.
Re: the England standard goalie, Joe Bursik had a really strong career with the England age group set-ups and I really didn't rate him for us. In hindsight though he was streets ahead of Dahlberg, Mitchell etc so perhaps I was a bit harsh on him!
I'm wary about TSL's lack of first team experience - he started Bromley's first game last year, was out of the squad for the next 2 (injury?) and then on the bench for 21 of the last 26 games - but he sounds like he's got good attributes so hopefully he solves the issue that we have there.
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He’s 21 and is good enough to have played for England 6 times at U 16, U 17 and U 20 levels.
It’s been explained why Bromley didn’t use him and we might question their judgment, but really does anyone have any evidence that he is not a good prospect?
I should say that we are lucky he has chosen us.
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I like his attitude will fit right in.
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Another great signing. Well we hope it is.
I am sure they will have done plenty of homework on him.
Jones needs to go out to a National league club and get lots of games under his belt.
That’s the only way he will improve and give himself a chance of being a good enough keeper to play as a number 1 at a league 1 club or even at League 2 level.
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Another great signing. Well we hope it is.
I am sure they will have done plenty of homework on him.
Jones needs to go out to a National league club and get lots of games under his belt.
That’s the only way he will improve and give himself a chance of being a good enough keeper to play as a number 1 at a league 1 club or even at League 2 level.
There used to be “Assertiveness Courses”. A modern equivalent for goalkeepers would be a good idea for him. I’m sure more confidence would improve his performance overall.
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Jones is the better to keep as a bench warmer he is the home grown player the squad needs for strength of depth on bench
Raven, are you serious?!
So who do you want as No 2?
Neither really, but Jones is a conference north keeper at best. I wish him well in the future. Great shot stopper but lacks a presence and his distribution is poor.
So for me Lawlor
This is the second time I’ve seen this. I don’t know what people are basing this off!
He is deficient in other areas such as crosses and set pieces, but Louis Jones has good distribution.
See our 1st goal here v MK
https://youtu.be/5MMLYsVd7fo?si=t5mey0VcpThlHoPw
Wouldnt class that as good distribution, he was just forced to punt it up field with no real thought behind it.