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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: albie on June 30, 2024, 03:36:35 pm
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Short video with some highlights from Keith in recent years;
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1633782958883471360/pu/vid/720x720/CUQFEDnttxiKkLoc.mp4?tag=12
Cherish and enjoy!
I reckon "peak Keith" will last about a year, and this time next summer his race is run.
Perhaps that's the plan....salt the earth for Nige to step in?
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Short video with some highlights from Keith in recent years;
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1633782958883471360/pu/vid/720x720/CUQFEDnttxiKkLoc.mp4?tag=12
Cherish and enjoy!
I reckon "peak Keith" will last about a year, and this time next summer his race is run.
Perhaps that's the plan....salt the earth for Nige to step in?
Raynor to step up to become PM then.
I suggested this a few days ago in discussion with friends.
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Starmer has got to win his seat yet!
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Do you think he might not Raven?
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There seems to be a possibility
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I don't think there is any chance of Rayner being allowed to take a leading role.
Much more likely Keith will press on for the full term, losing public support on the way.
Thoughts turn to how long Keith will get as a honeymoon, before becoming the most hated man in the UK.
I reckon 1 year at most, this time next year he will be reviled as a waste of space.
Unusually a decent article in the Guardian on project Keith;
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/28/keir-starmer-labour-britain-conservative-party
This is interesting because it considers the options after Labour do next to nothing, as set out in the manifesto.
More austerity, and a likely inability to meet the unrealistic growth targets, is just the scenario that Farage needs to pick up support from disillusioned voters.
Similar situation is playing out now in France, where centrist Macron seems to have misunderstood the public mood big time.
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I wonder why Syd didn’t tell us about that Guardian article?
Its almost as if ……….
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Short video with some highlights from Keith in recent years;
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1633782958883471360/pu/vid/720x720/CUQFEDnttxiKkLoc.mp4?tag=12
Cherish and enjoy!
I reckon "peak Keith" will last about a year, and this time next summer his race is run.
Perhaps that's the plan....salt the earth for Nige to step in?
Shit, come Friday you'll have nothing to do except cry in the corner, what's the betting you are wrong now with all your predictions as you were when starmer was voted leader Albie.
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i do wonder if Starmer ever "crossed" "to the other side"
there is a "certain word "that rhymes with Keir and children cane be very nasty to the "weird" early life he had
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/keir-starmer-fight-homophobia-lgbt-biography-b2499904.html
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I don't think there is any chance of Rayner being allowed to take a leading role.
Much more likely Keith will press on for the full term, losing public support on the way.
Thoughts turn to how long Keith will get as a honeymoon, before becoming the most hated man in the UK.
I reckon 1 year at most, this time next year he will be reviled as a waste of space.
Unusually a decent article in the Guardian on project Keith;
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/28/keir-starmer-labour-britain-conservative-party
This is interesting because it considers the options after Labour do next to nothing, as set out in the manifesto.
More austerity, and a likely inability to meet the unrealistic growth targets, is just the scenario that Farage needs to pick up support from disillusioned voters.
Similar situation is playing out now in France, where centrist Macron seems to have misunderstood the public mood big time.
If Starmer fails to ein his seat, Rayner is the next tenant of No10
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I don't think there is any chance of Rayner being allowed to take a leading role.
Much more likely Keith will press on for the full term, losing public support on the way.
Thoughts turn to how long Keith will get as a honeymoon, before becoming the most hated man in the UK.
I reckon 1 year at most, this time next year he will be reviled as a waste of space.
Unusually a decent article in the Guardian on project Keith;
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/28/keir-starmer-labour-britain-conservative-party
This is interesting because it considers the options after Labour do next to nothing, as set out in the manifesto.
More austerity, and a likely inability to meet the unrealistic growth targets, is just the scenario that Farage needs to pick up support from disillusioned voters.
Similar situation is playing out now in France, where centrist Macron seems to have misunderstood the public mood big time.
Yep we've got Keith to keep the far right at bay by doing exactly the same things that's caused the emergence of the far right in the first place .
Your wasting your time Albie the Liberal Washers can't do cause and affect , the cause tends to prick their asset owning conscience .
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i do wonder if Starmer ever "crossed" "to the other side"
there is a "certain word "that rhymes with Keir and children cane be very nasty to the "weird" early life he had
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/keir-starmer-fight-homophobia-lgbt-biography-b2499904.html
Are you accusing someone of being gay because they're not an absolute piece of homophobic shit?
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It is not about the result on Friday Syd.
We already know Labour will have a majority as the Tories have imploded and given up.
The Guardian article is about what happens when Keith is in power, and the implications for the next GE in 2029.
Please read it before commenting.
Voter expectations are wildly at odds with the offer in the Labour manifesto, as the FT explain;
https://archive.ph/BlYgH
The cuts Starmer and Reeves have signed up to are going to be a shock to those who have not understood the manifesto, and there will be a backlash.
The danger is that the underperformance of Labour in power will create a vacuum for Farage to exploit.
We need to be mindful of the great divide opening up in France as we speak.
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I don't think there is any chance of Rayner being allowed to take a leading role.
Much more likely Keith will press on for the full term, losing public support on the way.
Thoughts turn to how long Keith will get as a honeymoon, before becoming the most hated man in the UK.
I reckon 1 year at most, this time next year he will be reviled as a waste of space.
Unusually a decent article in the Guardian on project Keith;
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/28/keir-starmer-labour-britain-conservative-party
This is interesting because it considers the options after Labour do next to nothing, as set out in the manifesto.
More austerity, and a likely inability to meet the unrealistic growth targets, is just the scenario that Farage needs to pick up support from disillusioned voters.
Similar situation is playing out now in France, where centrist Macron seems to have misunderstood the public mood big time.
I think what you mean about that article Albie, is "Unusually, here is an article in the Guardian I agree with".
I got this far before I gave up.
"Labour was once, from its founding and into the early 1990s, and briefly between 2015 and 2020, something very different."
Should need to point out the bleeding obvious, but here goes.
That period when Labour were "very different" from what they are now, covers 99 years. Labour was in power with a majority for just 17 of those, the last being 45 years ago.
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No BST, I don't agree with everything in the article...I rarely do!
The point of posting it was that it identifies the key question going forward, and puts some alternative scenarios up for discussion.
Follow on from that with the FT article, and give us an explanation of how the issue of the disconnect between voters and policy, identified by the YouGov poll, are going to resolve?
The assumption that you can use the past as a reliable indicator of the future seems to me unfounded.
The political world is changing at a rapid pace, and voters are drifting away from the historical ties.
I reckon they are going to be more flexible in their choices by 2029.
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Here's a thought. What will Starmer's relationship with Le Pen and Trump be like?
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Here's a thought. What will Starmer's relationship with Le Penn and Trump be like?
Or , let's have closer ties with an EU moving to the far right at a decent rate of knots .
Keith coming back from Brussels holding a piece of white paper .
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Here's a thought. What will Starmer's relationship with Le Pen and Trump be like?
He'll come across to them as he does to everyone else he debates with, a witless wet wipe.
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Interesting that kid starver is now using the line that the boat crossing are a national
Emergency issue. Sure I’ve heard that somewhere before ?
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Here's a thought. What will Starmer's relationship with Le Pen and Trump be like?
He'll come across to them as he does to everyone else he debates with, a witless wet wipe.
His dad was a toolmaker , did you know BB ?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Interesting that kid starter is now using the line that the boat crossing are a national
Emergency issue. Sure I’ve heard that somewhere before ?
Not as much as his fecking government will be .
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Really surprised at the number of anti- labour folk that we have on this forum. Perhaps these are the folk that have done ok during the last 14 years of this shambolic tory government.
Im not a massive fan of Starmer, less so of his deputy, but i will be voting to get rid of this current shower running our country because they have been an embarrassment.
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Really surprised at the number of anti- labour folk that we have on this forum. Perhaps these are the folk that have done ok during the last 14 years of this shambolic tory government.
Im not a massive fan of Starmer, less so of his deputy, but i will be voting to get rid of this current shower running our country because they have been an embarrassment.
For many reasons the conservatives deserve to lose this election . But by the same regard, the Labour Party don’t deserve to win it. Not good. Do you want to have a shit sandwich or shit on toast?
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Really surprised at the number of anti- labour folk that we have on this forum. Perhaps these are the folk that have done ok during the last 14 years of this shambolic tory government.
Im not a massive fan of Starmer, less so of his deputy, but i will be voting to get rid of this current shower running our country because they have been an embarrassment.
For many reasons the conservatives deserve to lose this election . But by the same regard, the Labour Party don’t deserve to win it. Not good. Do you want to have a shit sandwich or shit on toast?
I’ll go for the one with the least shit thanks.
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How lovely that starmer plans to clock off on a Friday at 6pm so he can spend some time with family. After all, it’s not too important a job is it? And nothing much happens around the world after 6pm on a Friday does it .
Ffs.
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It is not about the result on Friday Syd.
We already know Labour will have a majority as the Tories have imploded and given up.
The Guardian article is about what happens when Keith is in power, and the implications for the next GE in 2029.
Please read it before commenting.
Voter expectations are wildly at odds with the offer in the Labour manifesto, as the FT explain;
https://archive.ph/BlYgH
The cuts Starmer and Reeves have signed up to are going to be a shock to those who have not understood the manifesto, and there will be a backlash.
The danger is that the underperformance of Labour in power will create a vacuum for Farage to exploit.
We need to be mindful of the great divide opening up in France as we speak.
Don't need to read it Albie, I get the feeling, with good reason that you actually want Starmer and his government to fail, that you don't give a shit about the people you just want vengeance because your boy lost, twice. You need to get some help.
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by chance I had Desert Island discs on and some bloke was waffling about how he was working for the founder of the Body shop Anita Roddick and because he was dissslexxxic was in on a Saturday or Sunday when she came into the office ........ basically she took him under her wing FOR YEARS and eventually he became an MP
I was taking no notice untl he mentioned Starmer said to him to "TALK LIKE A CONSERVATIVE "
Like a silly Billy he revealed this on tape.
So I suddenly took an interest and replayed the programme
here he is -- it fits in with the desert island programme
https://feweek.co.uk/peter-kyle-my-journey/
it is funny HOW THE ABOVE DOESN'T APPEAR ON HIS WIKIPEDIA PAGE - which has obviously been cleansed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kyle
so the question is how many other Labour MP's have been ORDERED TO TALK LIKE A CONSERVATIVE
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Cool story.
Except Peter Kyle has never been on Desert Island Discs.
Maybe time to put the computer down and go out for a walk?
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How lovely that starmer plans to clock off on a Friday at 6pm so he can spend some time with family. After all, it’s not too important a job is it? And nothing much happens around the world after 6pm on a Friday does it .
Ffs.
Calm down Karen. I'm sure if there's an emergency he'll be hard at work but if it's a dull week with nothing much happening then let the man spend time with his family.
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What a strange reply in post 25, Syd....."I don't need to read it".
So you think posting in response to something that you have not read, and clearly do not understand, is a sensible contribution?
You need to read it more than most, because you are unwilling to think through the direction of travel the UK is following.
Starmer is set to impose a new round of austerity, and sees Labour as a means to deliver public resources to private backers via PFI type redistribution to corporate interests.
The point being made is that this will have consequences, and these will be felt in the next GE.
Farage could not have a better script to work to.
You seem to think I want Starmer to fail, when actually I want Labour to succeed with socialist policies.
If Labour get elected and follow Tory policies, then they are Tories.....we are no further forward.
The FT article sets out the mismatch between voter expectations and the Labour manifesto contents.
I suppose an alternative view might be that as Starmer lies like a rug, anything in the manifesto is just window dressing.
Once the GE is done, the mainifesto will go the way of the leadership pledges, into the bin.
Keith will then be free to do whatever he wants, without the need for any democratic mandate, and the public will have to suck it up.
You shall be known by the company you keep;
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1807899723346444288/vid/avc1/1080x1080/5G6tuC0rhJXIfGix.mp4?tag=16
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Albie.
That "Labour are Tories unless they do what I want" schtick is precisely the reason we ended up in this creek of shit in the first place. Quarter of a million like you who insisted there was no difference between Brown/Darling and Cameron/Osborne. So they didn't vote Labour, in an election where Labour winning an extra dozen seats would have set us off in a totally different branch of history.
Do you think a little bit of humility might be in order?
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How lovely that starmer plans to clock off on a Friday at 6pm so he can spend some time with family. After all, it’s not too important a job is it? And nothing much happens around the world after 6pm on a Friday does it .
Ffs.
Of all the things to slate the guy for. His wife is Jewish, he likes to observe Shabbat with her when he can. Nothing he said indicates he'll be unreachable in the event of an emergency. Unlike one recent Tory PM in particular.
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Which Tory PM said they would be unreachable?
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BST,
Stop making things up.
I have never said that there was no difference between Brown and Cameron, and don't think that at all.
That said, the problem is the neo-liberal political economy.
You either support it, like you do, or you wish for a transformative change, like I do.
There is no point in voting for variations on the same old script if you support a different way of delivering economic improvements to an unequal society.
So the need for humility is with the likes of you, because you do not see the need for structural reform.
An example is FPTP.
You have been on here saying that the electoral system must change, but then back Starmer when he stands full square against it.
Keith reckons FPTP has brought stability......was he asleep during Johnson, Truss and then Sunak?
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Which Tory PM said they would be unreachable?
Bad mobile reception whilst hiding in fridges tbf.
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Which Tory PM said they would be unreachable?
Bad mobile reception whilst hiding in fridges tbf.
Let's not forget the same fella went AWOL for the first few COBRA meetings when COVID was just kicking off. For all the stick I give Keith there's no way he'd pull a stunt like that.
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It is not about the result on Friday Syd.
We already know Labour will have a majority as the Tories have imploded and given up.
The Guardian article is about what happens when Keith is in power, and the implications for the next GE in 2029.
Please read it before commenting.
Voter expectations are wildly at odds with the offer in the Labour manifesto, as the FT explain;
https://archive.ph/BlYgH
The cuts Starmer and Reeves have signed up to are going to be a shock to those who have not understood the manifesto, and there will be a backlash.
The danger is that the underperformance of Labour in power will create a vacuum for Farage to exploit.
We need to be mindful of the great divide opening up in France as we speak.
Don't need to read it Albie, I get the feeling, with good reason that you actually want Starmer and his government to fail, that you don't give a shit about the people you just want vengeance because your boy lost, twice. You need to get some help.
You still standing by this Albie?
''Keith is likely a dead man waiking in political terms after trying to dilute party democracy with a new electoral college....no coming back from this mistake''
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BST,
Stop making things up.
I have never said that there was no difference between Brown and Cameron, and don't think that at all.
That said, the problem is the neo-liberal political economy.
You either support it, like you do, or you wish for a transformative change, like I do.
There is no point in voting for variations on the same old script if you support a different way of delivering economic improvements to an unequal society.
So the need for humility is with the likes of you, because you do not see the need for structural reform.
An example is FPTP.
You have been on here saying that the electoral system must change, but then back Starmer when he stands full square against it.
Keith reckons FPTP has brought stability......was he asleep during Johnson, Truss and then Sunak?
When bst makes things up inevitably some of his followers believe he was telling the truth and back him up.
It’s a bit like the old story of the king and his new clothes.
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HE WILL DO ANYTHING FOR ATTENTION
REMEMBER EVERY AVATAR TELLS A STORY - MINE PORTRAYS POSSIBLY THE LAST MOMENT WE SAW THE QUEEN ALIVE AT BALMORAL
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Which Tory PM said they would be unreachable?
Would this be the one who missed COBRA meetings to sort out his divorce to write his book. Then hid in hospital claiming he was on deaths door and took time out to recuperate
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BST,
Stop making things up.
I have never said that there was no difference between Brown and Cameron, and don't think that at all.
That said, the problem is the neo-liberal political economy.
You either support it, like you do, or you wish for a transformative change, like I do.
There is no point in voting for variations on the same old script if you support a different way of delivering economic improvements to an unequal society.
So the need for humility is with the likes of you, because you do not see the need for structural reform.
An example is FPTP.
You have been on here saying that the electoral system must change, but then back Starmer when he stands full square against it.
Keith reckons FPTP has brought stability......was he asleep during Johnson, Truss and then Sunak?
But you wouldn't vote for Labour in 2010. And you've used the term "Red Tory" in the past to give your opinion of the last Labour Government.
Simple question. Do you think that a Brown led Government in 2010 would have been better than a Cameron-led one?
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Albie
Which countries would you like to see the UK model its economic policies on?