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Title: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Dagenham Rover on July 08, 2024, 07:06:05 pm
How do Uefa get away with it .
Wednesdays German referee was banned for 6 months due to match fixing and  accepting a bribe. Ok nearly 20 years ago  and "only " £250 but bang out of order
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: adamtherover on July 08, 2024, 07:32:04 pm
Odds on he books Jude!!!!
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on July 08, 2024, 07:33:53 pm
Odds on he books Jude!!!!
Jude didn't hold back last time he had Zwayer did he!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cjk3xgk2y87o (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cjk3xgk2y87o)

Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: drfchound on July 08, 2024, 07:38:40 pm
Unbelievable that this ref is still getting matches let alone a Euros semi final.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Dagenham Rover on July 08, 2024, 07:46:43 pm
Unbelievable that this ref is still getting matches let alone a Euros semi final.
Totally agree
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Dagenham Rover on July 08, 2024, 07:48:41 pm
Odds on he books Jude!!!!
Might have a fiver on Jude being sent off
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: karldew on July 08, 2024, 08:38:00 pm
Being looked into and possibly a change of ref for the game.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Donnywolf on July 08, 2024, 08:43:38 pm
Odds on he books Jude!!!!

One of my favourite jokes suits this.

Commentator shouts " 8 seconds gone and Bellingham is SENT OFF , for a second bookable offence"
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: drfchound on July 08, 2024, 08:44:16 pm
Being looked into and possibly a change of ref for the game.

Excellent if a change of ref is made, but how can he even be getting games.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on July 08, 2024, 08:49:25 pm
What are they thinking.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Dagenham Rover on July 08, 2024, 09:22:39 pm
Being looked into and possibly a change of ref for the game.

If they don't change them .... well it says it all I believe the English FA have "declined to comment" which suggests to me they are telling Uefa what a bunch of tossers they are, not in those words but
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on July 10, 2024, 08:22:40 pm
Jude obviously slipped the ref £250 before this one! Dodgy pen, but I'll take it all day!
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: normal rules on July 10, 2024, 08:24:07 pm
The whole country suddenly loves var.
How on earth.????
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Pancho Regan on July 10, 2024, 10:27:39 pm
What a referee, absolutely brilliant ……
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: drfchound on July 10, 2024, 10:30:23 pm
The whole country suddenly loves var.
How on earth.????

Why wasn’t it a pen.
Anywhere else on the pitch the ref gives a free kick so he has to give the pen.
The defender is showing his studs at knee height.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: roversdude on July 10, 2024, 10:31:30 pm
Totally agree hound
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 10, 2024, 10:36:07 pm
We’ve seen them given all over the pitch, but if it’s in the box, it’s a penalty. Simples. Shouldn’t have gone to VAR. No need.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Lesonthewest on July 10, 2024, 10:55:29 pm
Gone in with studs showing at a dangerous height, penalty for me.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: i_ateallthepies on July 11, 2024, 08:00:22 am
Of course it's a penalty and yellow card, dangerous play.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: idler on July 11, 2024, 09:27:52 am
I don’t know how Weghorst didn’t get a yellow for persistent fouling.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 11, 2024, 09:32:27 am
Just a word about the wonderful Kobbie Mainoo - is it because he has the No26 shirt?



Just saying!
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: i_ateallthepies on July 11, 2024, 09:50:40 am
It may be, Alan but he isn't that good yet.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Buzzberry on July 11, 2024, 09:59:28 am
If VAR are looking at it then why is it not a free kick for the handball by saka?
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: MachoMadness on July 11, 2024, 12:40:37 pm
I don’t know how Weghorst didn’t get a yellow for persistent fouling.
Had to laugh when he had Rice in an actual headlock at a corner. What did he think he was going to achieve with that?
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: dickos1 on July 11, 2024, 01:36:34 pm
If VAR are looking at it then why is it not a free kick for the handball by saka?

Because it wasn’t handball
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Filo on July 11, 2024, 02:00:42 pm
For all those bleating it wasn’t a penalty

Hand of God
Campbell’s disallowed goal against Portugal
Lampard’s 10 yard over the line goal
Beckhams red card

I think we’ve been on the wrong end of decisions more than we have been on the right end
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: drfchound on July 11, 2024, 02:04:50 pm
For all those bleating it wasn’t a penalty

Hand of God
Campbell’s disallowed goal against Portugal
Lampard’s 10 yard over the line goal
Beckhams red card

I think we’ve been on the wrong end of decisions more than we have been on the right end

Bang on Filo.
So many people only seem to be happy if we lose or don’t get some decisions going our way for a change.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 11, 2024, 02:24:19 pm
Wasn’t a dodgy decision in my book. I was screaming at the TV before it even went to VAR!
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: steve@dcfd on July 11, 2024, 02:45:15 pm
If the tackle happens out side the area with say a defender clearing the ball and an attacker comes in and catches the players foot with stood showing it’s given as a foul. Therefore definitely a penalty
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: selby on July 11, 2024, 06:30:34 pm
  We can debate all day, look at the result in the paper we found a way, liked the way Kane stopped down so the Ref could have a look and could consider, no starting the game quickly, then jumps up and puts it away.
  At last we are as cute as the others, and they don't like it do they.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 11, 2024, 07:30:27 pm
They don’t like it up ‘em, Captain Manwairing.

Classic :lol:
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: selby on July 11, 2024, 08:12:53 pm
  The so called expert summarises I feel are to blame for most of the controversy, with sayings like there isn't enough in it for me when it is charge, shove in the back or holding and shirt pulling, and how long before a player has a serious eye injury with a hand  across the face like Saka got yesterday, you get sent off at rugby League for an arm above the shoulder, why because it's dangerous.
 I would have my strikers with Velcro's side split shirts, I wonder what the ref would do in the area when someone had half a shirt in his hand.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on July 11, 2024, 08:22:36 pm

 I would have my strikers with Velcro's side split shirts, I wonder what the ref would do in the area when someone had half a shirt in his hand.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-18-2013/BmnKe4.gif)
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: PDX_Rover on July 11, 2024, 08:40:23 pm
It’s football. We’ve all suffered from horrendous decisions.

Koeman said VAR is ruining the game and he does have a point. For example, Saka’s goal stands.

Can’t believe how much the Dutch are moaning about it though. There’s something in their mentality that snaps sometimes.

Did you see Xavi crying about England’s goal celebrations?

It’s all b*llocks.

England were the better team on the night. End of story.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on July 11, 2024, 08:47:13 pm
If it was the other way round I'd be fuming and feel like we'd been robbed, especially with that ref! It's pretty soft, and since he didn't give it on the pitch I'm not sure it was clear and obvious enough for a monitor check. As it is, we got the rub of the green for a change and made the most of it! As Filo said we've been shafted enough times, so we can definitely enjoy this one.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: drfchound on July 11, 2024, 10:38:16 pm
TBH Reg, I think that many of the ones not given on the pitch are not clear and obvious.
Ones such as that awarded to Germany against the Danes.
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: Dagenham Rover on July 11, 2024, 11:00:31 pm
By what Ive read there was some sort of rule change some months ago basically saying if either player could cause injury I can't remember and can't be bothered to look up Yes Kanes shot was away so the defender was late and studs up. So maybe presume the ref was advised to look at the monitor and also advised of the rule change at the same time we will never know this is where Rugby has a big advantage decisions are explained
Title: Re: Well that'll be us on the way home
Post by: IDM on July 12, 2024, 09:25:21 am
The whole country suddenly loves var.
How on earth.????

Why wasn’t it a pen.
Anywhere else on the pitch the ref gives a free kick so he has to give the pen.
The defender is showing his studs at knee height.

‘Keepers have been getting away with challenges like that for years, especially in high challenges.  Schmeical (snr) (spelling?) got away with it for years.  I do remember Sulli conceding a penalty for similar though.

Players are often said to have committed a foul when they catch a player on their follow through, despite having got the ball first.

Therefore it’s a penalty - var helps where the play is too fast or view restricted for the officials.

Handball aside which is a minefield, my main issue with var is the time for decisions.