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Title: George Miller
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 03, 2024, 05:39:29 pm
Free Press saying he is off. McCann given him permission to speak to another club. Leaves us a bit light up front, even if Miller didn’t quite fit in with the McCann set up anyway.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: drfcsteve on August 03, 2024, 05:50:19 pm
Interesting. If we played one up top I presume he’d be behind Ironside and Sharp in the pecking order, and maybe he doesn’t want to be forced out wide. It’d be a gamble for another club given he hasn’t played for a year.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ChrisBx on August 03, 2024, 05:52:43 pm
Hopefully we get a fee that covers some of his wages from last season.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Nudga on August 03, 2024, 05:52:57 pm
Real shame. I was looking forward to him partnering ironside sometimes in a front two.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 03, 2024, 05:54:36 pm
It wouldn’t surprise me if McCann brings in a loan now, especially one with pace to give us another option. Enough quality if we don’t, but it looks light now, especially as Billy is not going to be a 90 minute player like Ironside.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Drover on August 03, 2024, 05:55:44 pm
Don't know why,but Ive had a gut feeling we still in market for a striker,even though all the signs say not and GM saying we are probably done for now,if this is true then we may have someone else lined up,maybe it's Miller himself who is wanting a better chance of more first team minutes and got more chance if he moves,good look to him.
Oh and I have a pretty big gut!  :laugh:
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: scawsby steve on August 03, 2024, 05:56:41 pm
I would imagine GM's been planning this since he signed Billy.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Northants Nomad on August 03, 2024, 05:57:48 pm
We have plenty of attacking options for a front 3. One up with two in support means George’s game time would be limited. Right decision by/for him if he moves on. We were never going to play a front 2.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Petche on August 03, 2024, 06:05:28 pm
Confirmed by Grant.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 03, 2024, 06:11:14 pm
Confirmed by Grant.

What has been confirmed?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 03, 2024, 06:12:47 pm
The Free Press has quoted Grant saying that he has given permission to Miller to speak to another club. 
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 03, 2024, 06:14:31 pm
Miller out, Adelukan still no club ….
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 03, 2024, 06:14:46 pm
50-50 on this we know he's got good ability. Yes his injury has been a big setback but I'm surprised.  We would surely need a replacement.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Rovers91 on August 03, 2024, 06:15:42 pm
I imagine GM will want to bring one in even if a loan if Miller does go. I'm not disappointed he works hard and gives it everything but he won't do anything higher than league 2 level.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 03, 2024, 06:21:16 pm
Our best spell last season was when we had absolutely zero back up for Ironside. We start the season with admittedly older, but our best striker of the last quarter century as his back up. We could do with a third option, but zero sleep lost if we start season with Ironside and Sharp.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 03, 2024, 06:44:49 pm
Our best spell last season was when we had absolutely zero back up for Ironside. We start the season with admittedly older, but our best striker of the last quarter century as his back up. We could do with a third option, but zero sleep lost if we start season with Ironside and Sharp.

Not sure because I haven't seen him play, but didn't Bristol City suggest Yeboah could play anywhere up front, including centrally? Not that it means anything but Transfermarkt has him as a CF. Anybody able to comment?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mushRTID on August 03, 2024, 06:55:27 pm
Yeboah was making good runs when up front. He also to me looks lost out wide.
Not sure on him yet to be honest but he doesn’t look like a winger to me.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 03, 2024, 07:04:09 pm
Headless chicken no loss IMO
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 03, 2024, 07:11:26 pm
Very disappointed to hear about Miller. He's not been given the chance to play no 9 through pre-season so maybe he feels he's not getting a fair crack. Like others I would've liked to seem him playing in a two or a three up front as an alternative to Ironside.

Yebeoah doesn't look like an alternative to me from what I've seen. Not very strong in the challenge, losing possession too easily. There were a couple of opportunities for him to get on the end of crosses in the Middlesbrough game but he made half arsed efforts rather than attacking the ball.

Very much doubt Adelakun would be on the radar or would even consider coming back.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 03, 2024, 07:12:49 pm
Should end up at Leicester, loads of crisp packets up there
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: philsky on August 03, 2024, 07:13:20 pm
I’m not massively surprised tbh
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ncRover on August 03, 2024, 07:31:34 pm
I would now go for a young target man striker who wouldn't mind being down the pecking order as one to develop.

No one else in our attack can do the job Ironside does - which is crucial to the way we play.

He is hardly ever injured but is in the wars every game. He needs someone similar to him like what we had with Biamou.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyEl on August 03, 2024, 07:58:21 pm
Heard a few names banded about replacements. Went to Hillsborough today, someone was telling me we were in for Michael Smith on loan, but I dismissed it. Now maybe some truth in it? Owls are also looking to loan out Wills & Cadamatteri, Adelakun also me ruined as an option?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 03, 2024, 08:08:25 pm
Matt Smith still an option.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Ryaldinhio on August 03, 2024, 08:12:59 pm
Personally not too upset about this. Nothing against the lad and wish him the best but I can't see him taking a step up with us to L1 and potentially would be going for free end of season so if we can pick up a fee then do so.

I'd love to see Max Biammo back, I thought he looked quality.

I'm over Haks, personally wouldn't want him back. Rather save the wages and give Hurst the chance to shine.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Danmckay456 on August 03, 2024, 08:14:14 pm
Makes sense missed a big chunk of last season , out of contract next summer I think we could get a better replacement on lower wages and who we might develop rather than a player wanting to play week in week out
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 03, 2024, 08:22:33 pm
Heard a few names banded about replacements. Went to Hillsborough today, someone was telling me we were in for Michael Smith on loan, but I dismissed it. Now maybe some truth in it? Owls are also looking to loan out Wills & Cadamatteri, Adelakun also me ruined as an option?

Micheal Smith more likely to go back to Rotherham, certainly that's what a couple of Millers fans were saying.

I'd also love to see a fit Max Biamou back here too. Has a bit of everything. Class act.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 03, 2024, 08:27:13 pm
Heard a few names banded about replacements. Went to Hillsborough today, someone was telling me we were in for Michael Smith on loan, but I dismissed it. Now maybe some truth in it? Owls are also looking to loan out Wills & Cadamatteri, Adelakun also me ruined as an option?

Micheal Smith more likely to go back to Rotherham, certainly that's what a couple of Millers fans were saying.

I'd also love to see a fit Max Biamou back here too. Has a bit of everything. Class act.

Agree with Biamou.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Juddy on August 03, 2024, 09:01:12 pm
Think a lot of Millers fans fell out with Smudge when he left for the Owls in league one when they had been promoted to the Championship and would not welcome him back with open arms
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Danmckay456 on August 03, 2024, 09:09:18 pm
Think a lot of Millers fans fell out with Smudge when he left for the Owls in league one when they had been promoted to the Championship and would not welcome him back with open arms

Since when have players took into account fans feelings , all about money nowadays not many players have morals
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on August 03, 2024, 10:11:34 pm
Would have liked him to stay as he would score goals in this team. Can understand why he wants out though as he’s going to be 3rd choice and after having a season without playing you need to bounce back with games.

Wouldn’t rush into replacing him. Save our loan spaces for Jan imo.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: pib on August 03, 2024, 10:39:54 pm
Any whispers as to where Miller is off to? Got to be someone else at this level surely? Would be surprised if he got a L1 move.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: KingKendrick on August 03, 2024, 10:43:58 pm
Any whispers as to where Miller is off to? Got to be someone else at this level surely? Would be surprised if he got a L1 move.

Walsall strongly linked
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: StocksArmy on August 03, 2024, 10:55:29 pm
Best for both parties in my opinion. Expect him to stay at this level though.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 03, 2024, 11:43:36 pm
Any whispers as to where Miller is off to? Got to be someone else at this level surely? Would be surprised if he got a L1 move.

I could be way off but listening to what Evans is planning for his little bits and bobs to complete his squad, I wouldn't be surprised if Miller ends up a Miller.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Drover on August 04, 2024, 01:38:00 am
Dingles still looking for a Devante Cole replacement,surely not? Mind you,if Cole can get a move to WBA then owt can happen
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 04, 2024, 02:26:35 am
Any whispers as to where Miller is off to? Got to be someone else at this level surely? Would be surprised if he got a L1 move.

I could be way off but listening to what Evans is planning for his little bits and bobs to complete his squad, I wouldn't be surprised if Miller ends up a Miller.

The final "Peace" in a Flour Power Attack   !.... "grind the buggers down"
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: colincramb on August 04, 2024, 05:42:02 am
If he wants to leave, fair enough. Can’t wonder though if this is a mistake. Billy is a short term signing and miller still has development in him. Let’s remember, he still got a decent amount of goals 2 seasons back playing in some pretty awful teams.

Hope this doesn’t come back to bite us on the arse
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Filo on August 04, 2024, 06:49:25 am
Another one spends a year injured, getting paid, gets fit and wants out
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ncRover on August 04, 2024, 07:24:11 am
George would be a decent signing for any mid / lower league 2 club who plays a 3-5-2/4-4-2. He is hard-working and has good poacher’s instincts.

Even if he does well elsewhere, he wasn’t going to fit in a McCann team as a striker as he isn’t physically strong enough and let’s be honest link up play is very poor.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mushRTID on August 04, 2024, 07:26:31 am
Another one spends a year injured, getting paid, gets fit and wants out

From his view he’s finally got fit and we’ve brought in Billy Sharp and pushed him down the pecking order.

Absolutely no issues with him wanting to move on in my eyes.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 04, 2024, 07:35:30 am
Obviously McCann doesn’t rate or want him otherwise why would he let him go? There also might be someone he does want but needed to get a player out first before bringing them in.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 04, 2024, 07:50:46 am
Another one spends a year injured, getting paid, gets fit and wants out

From his view he’s finally got fit and we’ve brought in Billy Sharp and pushed him down the pecking order.

Absolutely no issues with him wanting to move on in my eyes.

Agree with this, also he was brought to play in one side / set up, and McCann comes in and plays something totally different. This happens, and better him moving on to get a start, than warming bench on what will be a good wage for us.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Campsall rover on August 04, 2024, 08:50:45 am
Would be a good player for Harrogate Town.
Think he could suit the way they play.

Yes I was hoping he would be an important squad player for us this season. If he goes I think we need a replacement.
A younger striker on loan or if Max Biamou is fit then he would be brilliant off the bench or if Ironside gets an injury or needs a rest after 65 mins in some games.
Don’t think we can expect Billy to play many if any 90 min games and it’s good to have 2 striker options on the bench.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 04, 2024, 09:15:41 am
We need options up front, I don't think any teams want to be one trick ponies.

As said by others too, I would like to see more of two up front and was itching to see Miller and Sharp to see how that dynamic worked, but we've seen precious little. Miller being a more off the shoulder player with Billy the fox in the box. To date, when we've seen Billy take to the field, have we changed anything to play to his strengths?

With Miller, you have the option of playing both through, and over the top, with good chances he can get on the end of things. That isn't going to happen with Billy, he hasn't got the legs to chase down those.

As mentioned earlier, Biamou provided that option last season which is ideal for counter attacking football/fast breaks. (He actually got injured when we scored from a fast break when he squared it for Tommy Rowe to finish)
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mushRTID on August 04, 2024, 09:23:32 am
Would be a good player for Harrogate Town.
Think he could suit the way they play.

Yes I was hoping he would be an important squad player for us this season. If he goes I think we need a replacement.
A younger striker on loan or if Max Biamou is fit then he would be brilliant off the bench or if Ironside gets an injury or needs a rest after 65 mins in some games.
Don’t think we can expect Billy to play many if any 90 min games and it’s good to have 2 striker options on the bench.

Harrogate crossed my mind too, as did Swindon.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mpc123 on August 04, 2024, 09:25:00 am
If he wants to leave, fair enough. Can’t wonder though if this is a mistake. Billy is a short term signing and miller still has development in him. Let’s remember, he still got a decent amount of goals 2 seasons back playing in some pretty awful teams.

Hope this doesn’t come back to bite us on the arse

I can agree with this but in GM we trust, let's see who comes in, but I must admit a part of me thinks a fit Miller could still do well in league 1 with the right team around.

Good luck to him if he goes and it will be interesting who we bring in.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mpc123 on August 04, 2024, 09:25:41 am
Just to add a fit Biamou for me too
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: roversdude on August 04, 2024, 09:33:59 am
Anyone know if Biamou has been training anywhere?
Miller was really hard working but it was obvious in the friendlies that he didn’t fit in being played almost as a winger (cracking cross he put in for Ironside though)
Good luck to the lad
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: graingrover on August 04, 2024, 10:19:45 am
Another club makes an offer .CEO discusses with  GM .At that price  can you use the money to strengthen . Yes! , OK Allow player to talk to the interested  party and start looking to strengthen ..like Lo Tutela?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 04, 2024, 10:24:19 am
Another club makes an offer .CEO discusses with  GM .At that price  can you use the money to strengthen . Yes! , OK Allow player to talk to the interested  party and start looking to strengthen ..like Lo Tutela?

Or Wilks
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Lesonthewest on August 04, 2024, 10:24:45 am
Whatever we think of Miller he is a goalscorer & this will weaken our options, even from the bench or starting he would be worth 10/12 goals a season. I don't believe with the detetmination of McCann for us to be up there this season that he hasn't got a replacement in mind.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 04, 2024, 10:27:59 am
George is not a bad player, but I doubt he could compete with Billy or Joe for a starting place and wants out, if he isn't willing to fight and improve to compete then let him go, no use to us having somebody like that in the squad.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: The Dav on August 04, 2024, 10:40:15 am
What sort of fee will command for him ? Or will it be an ‘undisclosed’ ?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ncRover on August 04, 2024, 10:51:33 am
Would be a good player for Harrogate Town.
Think he could suit the way they play.

Yes I was hoping he would be an important squad player for us this season. If he goes I think we need a replacement.
A younger striker on loan or if Max Biamou is fit then he would be brilliant off the bench or if Ironside gets an injury or needs a rest after 65 mins in some games.
Don’t think we can expect Billy to play many if any 90 min games and it’s good to have 2 striker options on the bench.

Harrogate crossed my mind too, as did Swindon.

He’d be the perfect foil for Cole Stockton at Salford
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mushRTID on August 04, 2024, 10:58:15 am
Would be a good player for Harrogate Town.
Think he could suit the way they play.

Yes I was hoping he would be an important squad player for us this season. If he goes I think we need a replacement.
A younger striker on loan or if Max Biamou is fit then he would be brilliant off the bench or if Ironside gets an injury or needs a rest after 65 mins in some games.
Don’t think we can expect Billy to play many if any 90 min games and it’s good to have 2 striker options on the bench.

Harrogate crossed my mind too, as did Swindon.

He’d be the perfect foil for Cole Stockton at Salford

I think he’d be a good signing for all those clubs mid table ish, Salford, Crewe, Colchester, Swindon, Harrogate etc

He is too good to be sat on our bench playing third fiddle behind Billy and Joe.

As mentioned above he’s looked out of place pre season if we replace him with a wide forward we have strengthened the squad again.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ncRover on August 04, 2024, 11:23:41 am
Would be a good player for Harrogate Town.
Think he could suit the way they play.

Yes I was hoping he would be an important squad player for us this season. If he goes I think we need a replacement.
A younger striker on loan or if Max Biamou is fit then he would be brilliant off the bench or if Ironside gets an injury or needs a rest after 65 mins in some games.
Don’t think we can expect Billy to play many if any 90 min games and it’s good to have 2 striker options on the bench.

Would any clubs loan us a young striker for them to be 3rd choice?

I would take Biamou back in a heartbeat. Won’t cost much and low risk with the depth we have
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: StocksArmy on August 04, 2024, 11:35:52 am
If we are to replace George, I would happily take Louie Marsh back if he was available. Don’t think we or the player were a good fit at the time and was obviously cut short. Both in a better place now.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 04, 2024, 11:48:38 am
We knew Biamou was a risk when we signed him short term, due to his recovery from injury and given he got injured again, I doubt (sadly) he was even a consideration. As we know now, Billy was on the radar with Miller already here, so I doubt they would take the same risk on Biamou when we don't have to (even if he's fit and available).

Do we think Miller wanting away is a surprise? Maybe so, as for any manager, keeping all your striker options happy isn't easy.

It sounds to me like another club hasn't made an official approach and it's probably Miller himself, or hs agent, who's
Instigated this, having thought he's not going to get regular enough starts. Alfie May was in a similar situation and was prepared to move to get more guaranteed game time.

McCann will have to think hard whether we need to replace Miller. Tend to think, if anything, it'll be a loan as offering terms to someone who might be third fiddle isn't very attractive.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: philsky on August 04, 2024, 11:58:33 am
Another one spends a year injured, getting paid, gets fit and wants out

thats what struck me straight away

feels a bit out of order but GM might think its a selection problem going away and maybe we'll get a few quid
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: graingrover on August 04, 2024, 01:00:41 pm
I don’t think it is him ‘ wanting away ‘ rather the club accepting that the offer is financially interesting to them so they throw the ball over to the player .
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: MachoMadness on August 04, 2024, 03:10:48 pm
Hope we are getting a fee for him. Yes, he wouldn't be first choice but he'd be a good option from the bench for us. Now it looks like we won't have that option. But if we can use the cash to strengthen elsewhere, it makes sense to let him go.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 04, 2024, 03:34:16 pm
I don’t think it is him ‘ wanting away ‘ rather the club accepting that the offer is financially interesting to them so they throw the ball over to the player .

Dunno Graingrover, with the article saying "Miller has one year left on his contract but it's unclear whether the mooted move will be a loan or permanent deal" doesn't sound like a firm offer has been made.

Of course that could be just speculation from the DFP with very few 'in the know'.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: IDM on August 04, 2024, 03:47:32 pm
Let’s just hope that if nowt had happened with Miller come Saturday, and he’s in our match day squad, we give him the same support as any other player.  He might not particularly want to leave, just had interest from elsewhere via his agent.?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Pancho Regan on August 04, 2024, 04:31:34 pm
Another one spends a year injured, getting paid, gets fit and wants out

From his view he’s finally got fit and we’ve brought in Billy Sharp and pushed him down the pecking order.

Absolutely no issues with him wanting to move on in my eyes.

Rather than stay and fight for his place?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: keith79 on August 04, 2024, 04:33:12 pm
We must have someone in mind to replace him. Going into the new season with only 2 proven strikers would worry me. 
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: danumdon on August 04, 2024, 05:04:00 pm
We must have someone in mind to replace him. Going into the new season with only 2 proven strikers would worry me. 

Agreed, its a predicament if Ironsde gets injured, do we change all our shape and setup to accommodate Billy?

It may just be the stars aligning and if/when Miller moves on we get someone who could be a vital link in our campaign for next season.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Arsenal Of The North on August 04, 2024, 06:24:28 pm
Yeboah can play as a striker if needed, I think McCann is most likely going to identify another winger to replace miller, it’s his high demand area and hopefully he’s playing his cards very close to his chest to get the key player he wants at the end of the window

That’s what I would do if i had to replace miller anyway, I know we have had our injury worries over the years, but what’s the real likelihood of either Ironside and sharp being injured at same time? Or both out of form? Slim IMO
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: graingrover on August 04, 2024, 06:27:19 pm
It is great to be able to stay cool on matters like this because we have GM in the driving seat .
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 04, 2024, 06:43:58 pm
Another one spends a year injured, getting paid, gets fit and wants out

From his view he’s finally got fit and we’ve brought in Billy Sharp and pushed him down the pecking order.

Absolutely no issues with him wanting to move on in my eyes.

Rather than stay and fight for his place?

If he's been told that's a long shot why wouldn't he want to move on? For him there's a big world outside his current club, he doesn't just see the drfc angle as we do.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: belton rover on August 04, 2024, 08:09:52 pm
I’ve always thought we were dressing George up to be much bigger for us than he had the potential to be. Probably due to desperation at the time.
Good luck to him.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: NickDRFC on August 04, 2024, 08:29:35 pm
I’ve always thought we were dressing George up to be much bigger for us than he had the potential to be. Probably due to desperation at the time.
Good luck to him.

I think that’s a little harsh. In his first season with us he scored at a rate of 1 in 3 in a side that created absolutely nothing so I think he has the ability to be a good League Two striker. That said, he would be third choice here (and by some distance) so given we only play one up front and he really doesn’t suit that system I can see why we’re letting him go. It’s not worth hanging onto a player who will be unhappy with 15 minute cameos here and there, not even playing second fiddle.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Drover on August 04, 2024, 09:47:08 pm
A lot of guessing going on,including by myself,but until we find out the truth,we should keep an open mind why it's happening.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 04, 2024, 10:43:19 pm
Going on what GM has said it would appear George has gone about this in the right way, whereby he must have asked for permission to speak to another Club, as Grant gave him permission.

The next thing is, I suppose, is that terms will be discussed and then the other Club will make a bid for George. If it’s acceptable to us, he’ll leave. Conversely, if it isn’t acceptable, he’ll still be with us, unless and until an acceptable offer comes in.

GM has said in the past that he prefers to have 3 strikers on board, so the chances are he’ll try to replace him,  if he leaves. But, this could throw up further options - only time will tell. I would think this is the last thing GM would want with less than a week to the big kick off!
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mushRTID on August 04, 2024, 11:43:32 pm
I don’t see any reason GM would announce it in the media if it wasn’t almost a done deal?

He normally keeps things under wraps
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mpc123 on August 05, 2024, 06:16:35 am
Or put it out there to make others aware and get price up, that's if there is a price, he may well go for zero
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Move DRFC on August 05, 2024, 06:33:27 am
Another one spends a year injured, getting paid, gets fit and wants out

From his view he’s finally got fit and we’ve brought in Billy Sharp and pushed him down the pecking order.

Absolutely no issues with him wanting to move on in my eyes.

Rather than stay and fight for his place?

Why bother when he's 3rd choice and he can get guaranteed football elsewhere? It's a no-brainer for him and he probably thought 'I'm off' as soon as we signed Sharp.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: McCammon egg n chips on August 05, 2024, 08:07:10 am
We must have someone in mind to replace him. Going into the new season with only 2 proven strikers would worry me.

We've got short memories, it wasn't long ago we had to put up with Tiago Cukur or Joe Dodoo up front.

If Miller leaves we've got Ironisde or Sharp, two fantastic strikers. Add in support from some of our other attacking players, plus potential loans - I'm not worried at all.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: number19 on August 05, 2024, 09:38:21 am
Anyone think we'll be looking on down line at another Watters/May scenario?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 05, 2024, 10:30:28 am
We must have someone in mind to replace him. Going into the new season with only 2 proven strikers would worry me.

We've got short memories, it wasn't long ago we had to put up with Tiago Cukur or Joe Dodoo up front.

If Miller leaves we've got Ironisde or Sharp, two fantastic strikers. Add in support from some of our other attacking players, plus potential loans - I'm not worried at all.

If Ironside gets injured early doors, we're instantly worried. I don't need to remind folk about Brighton all those years ago. All looking good, then in no time at all, Sharp and Hayter out with long term injuries. We still had Chris Brown and young Ryan Mason, until he got crocked the very next game.

Now of course, that's extreme bad luck but, we need cover to maintain the way McCann wants to play. Hopefully, Miller gets sorted one way or the other very quickly, so we can move on.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: IDM on August 05, 2024, 11:27:09 am
I would expect we have been keeping some irons in the fire in regards of more incomings, especially loans, to cover any bad injuries pre season.  Losing Miller to a transfer would be similar so I believe there would be options available to come in at least before the end of the window..
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 05, 2024, 12:00:47 pm
Anyone think we'll be looking on down line at another Watters/May scenario?

Nothing like Watters but not dissimilar to May.

Miller through pre season hasn't had the chance to play his preferred position. He was left at home for the trip to Portugal (Even if he was rehabilitating, being part of the group for bonding purposes surely  it was worth taking him?)

All speculation of course but maybe George wasn't feeling the love and like Alfie, at his age and given he missed all last season, wants to be somewhere he thinks he's likely to play as a striker.

Personally, I think he's more likely to score more than Billy and would rather he stayed to fight for his place and show what a good goalscorer he is.

Alfie had the potential although I thought he was more likely to evolve into a no 10 role to take over Copps role. A very clever, energetic, skillful footballer, who would have created and scored goals, although at the time maybe not at a prolific rate as Marquis. Only hindsight has shown he was capable of being a prolific marksman and showing what a clown Moore is.

I don't think Miller has the same potential as Alfie but he will score goals.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Butchers Red on August 05, 2024, 12:07:25 pm
Miller to Newport ??

They've just sold Will Evans.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 05, 2024, 03:16:44 pm
If that’s the case, we ought to wait until after we’ve played them! ;)
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 05, 2024, 03:44:13 pm
If that’s the case, we ought to wait until after we’ve played them! ;)

Or put it in the contract. If a loan that would be standard anyway.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: drfcsteve on August 06, 2024, 07:44:12 pm
We must have someone in mind to replace him. Going into the new season with only 2 proven strikers would worry me.

We've got short memories, it wasn't long ago we had to put up with Tiago Cukur or Joe Dodoo up front.

If Miller leaves we've got Ironisde or Sharp, two fantastic strikers. Add in support from some of our other attacking players, plus potential loans - I'm not worried at all.

If Ironside gets injured early doors, we're instantly worried. I don't need to remind folk about Brighton all those years ago. All looking good, then in no time at all, Sharp and Hayter out with long term injuries. We still had Chris Brown and young Ryan Mason, until he got crocked the very next game.

Now of course, that's extreme bad luck but, we need cover to maintain the way McCann wants to play. Hopefully, Miller gets sorted one way or the other very quickly, so we can move on.

What a reminder of the quality we had in that team.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: keith79 on August 06, 2024, 07:50:59 pm
We must have someone in mind to replace him. Going into the new season with only 2 proven strikers would worry me.

We've got short memories, it wasn't long ago we had to put up with Tiago Cukur or Joe Dodoo up front.

If Miller leaves we've got Ironisde or Sharp, two fantastic strikers. Add in support from some of our other attacking players, plus potential loans - I'm not worried at all.
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 Yes only 2 proven strikers. If 1 get injured its a long time to January
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Lesonthewest on August 06, 2024, 08:19:10 pm
Miller to Newport ??

They've just sold Will Evans.

Wouldn't surprise me, they've brought in 12 up to now!
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ncRover on August 06, 2024, 09:45:32 pm
If this midfielder from West Ham is signing then that’s likely Yeboah as the 3rd choice striker.

Sbarra and Gibson can both provide back up to Molyneux’s RW position.

On the transfermarkt pages if you scroll down on these it shows how many times they’ve played in each position:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joe-sbarra/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/462841

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jordan-gibson/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/379666

Best hope Ironside doesn’t get injured.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 06, 2024, 09:58:37 pm
If this midfielder from West Ham is signing then that’s likely Yeboah as the 3rd choice striker.

Sbarra and Gibson can both provide back up to Molyneux’s RW position.

On the transfermarkt pages if you scroll down on these it shows how many times they’ve played in each position:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joe-sbarra/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/462841

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jordan-gibson/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/379666

Best hope Ironside doesn’t get injured.


From the three games I've seen Yeboah, I haven't seen anything to suggest he's a striker, even a makeshift one. What do others think who've watched him?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Prez on August 06, 2024, 10:05:11 pm
I have only seen the millers game, and Yeboah looked clumsy and lightweight. That said perhaps not fair to judge a player over 1 game.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mushRTID on August 07, 2024, 11:01:00 pm
Seems to have gone quiet, I honestly thought with Grant speaking about it, it was pretty much done.

Anyone heard anything more?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 07, 2024, 11:16:28 pm
Not heard or seen owt but tomorrow's press day and if any new signings who are likely to be in the frame for Saturday, for their new teams, it's a fair bet, they'll be announced tomorrow.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: 5minstogo on August 08, 2024, 07:36:10 am
I wonder if there's been an issue with a medical. Remember he wasn't expected back until January.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 08, 2024, 09:11:09 am
I wonder if there's been an issue with a medical. Remember he wasn't expected back until January.

Actually, it occurred to me about his injury and wondered whether, GM and Rennie assessed him as being a high risk of the injury recurring,  and felt it's better to let him go whilst he is 'fit' and gain something from his remaining contract.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ncRover on August 08, 2024, 12:32:24 pm
Thought McCann would have looked at McGuckin at Rotherham.

Young Northern Irish u21 player. Good size and can play centre forward, no.10 or on the right wing.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Ldr on August 08, 2024, 12:54:32 pm
How do you know he hasn’t?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 08, 2024, 03:11:26 pm
McCann has confirmed Miller is definitely off, and it is a permanent move. Will happen imminently.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Ryaldinhio on August 08, 2024, 03:18:35 pm
McCann has confirmed Miller is definitely off, and it is a permanent move. Will happen imminently.

Wheres that CBCB?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Prez on August 08, 2024, 03:55:03 pm
It’s in the DFP
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 08, 2024, 04:40:20 pm
Hear it from the horses mouth.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jh8zjt

Is this McCann being ruthless? Seems confident in his 'front 6'  but from our point of view, does it leave us vulnerable. Obviously there's time in the window should he feel we're short up front.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: jmt23 on August 08, 2024, 04:54:58 pm
All the best to him wherever he goes, seems it was amicable.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 08, 2024, 06:39:17 pm
Great Interview, ‘He’s way down the pecking order’ suggests he’s not for GM, and he’s been honest with him.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 08, 2024, 07:50:40 pm
Great Interview, ‘He’s way down the pecking order’ suggests he’s not for GM, and he’s been honest with him.

Seems that way, which is a shame as I don't think we saw his full potential and what he can do in a good team.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Michael Shaw on August 08, 2024, 08:33:31 pm
A shame about his injury because he was a great player for us, and I hope he has success wherever he goes now.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 08, 2024, 08:38:09 pm
Looking like his replacement is not too far away! ;)
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 08, 2024, 09:17:56 pm
Looking like his replacement is not too far away! ;)

In time or distance?;
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 08, 2024, 09:20:39 pm
Time!
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Bessie Red on August 09, 2024, 11:10:04 am
Not heard any rumours or suggestions on social media about where he might be going. There is usually some speculation!
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 09, 2024, 11:31:33 am
Speculation of Walsall is all I’ve seen
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Nudga on August 09, 2024, 11:54:51 am
Speculation of Walsall is all I’ve seen

Ffs,  anyone but them.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: The Dav on August 09, 2024, 12:12:17 pm
I’ve still got this suspicion that it will be Haks, the way he shut down the reporter! Maybe he wants to just keep his name off the radar, I hope I’m right, that said he did fade a touch in the last few games! Thoughts ?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Danmckay456 on August 09, 2024, 12:15:08 pm
I think the other way , he think he’s burnt his bridges with McCann and it will be a premier league loanee striker for the season
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: roversdude on August 09, 2024, 12:19:45 pm
Or championship loan player
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: danumdon on August 09, 2024, 12:22:09 pm
Never say never!
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Metalmicky on August 09, 2024, 12:30:24 pm
Never
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 09, 2024, 02:00:34 pm
Gone to Cheltenham Town.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: glosterred on August 09, 2024, 02:01:59 pm
Second striker they’ve had from us


COYR
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: mushRTID on August 09, 2024, 02:02:05 pm
That’s a great move for him, fair play everyone is a winner here
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ncRover on August 09, 2024, 02:21:24 pm
They have an experienced target man in Ryan Bowman for him to play off. That should get the best out of him.

They’ve been tipped to struggle this year but that’s a smart signing.

Good luck George. Can’t fault your attitude.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: GazLaz on August 09, 2024, 02:24:30 pm
Not sure I’d be delighted if I was a Cheltenham fan. Good luck to the lad though and all the best.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ChrisBx on August 09, 2024, 03:12:59 pm
Good luck to him. I think he'll do okay there.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 09, 2024, 03:35:07 pm
They're CEO is a shrewd fella. He knew they were likely to drop down, but they made a really good fist at trying to stay up.

Many have written them off as not being contenders but they are one of my dark horses. More so now with George on board. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: The Dav on August 09, 2024, 04:05:00 pm
‘Undisclosed’ fee ! I hope it wasn’t a toot on a rag mans baloon !!
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 09, 2024, 06:26:27 pm
More funds in GM’s kitty?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: scawsby steve on August 09, 2024, 06:39:06 pm
Stitched on to score against us.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: jmt23 on August 09, 2024, 06:44:54 pm
Despite what Grant has said, he has let him go for a reason, I think he feels he can get someone either better or more suited to our style.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: StocksArmy on August 09, 2024, 07:40:03 pm
I think maybe Millers injury had a part to play in this. GM has spoke more about players being robust than anything else. We are at a point now where barring Anderson, Close and possibly Sterry who are prone to an injury, there is nobody else who you feel aren’t always available for selection.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Drover on August 09, 2024, 07:56:52 pm
‘Undisclosed’ fee ! I hope it wasn’t a toot on a rag mans baloon !!

And a sell on clause!
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: The Dav on August 09, 2024, 08:00:40 pm
Their manager has said he’s coming back from a bad injury, on reflection I believe his injury is the reason he’s been allowed to move on !
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 09, 2024, 08:39:56 pm
It's no loss at all he was mainly a headless chicken
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: LincsRover on August 10, 2024, 08:17:33 am
The last player they bought from us did ok, I’m sure they’re all hoping lightening strikes twice! Good luck George, hope it goes well (except when you play against us!).
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Filo on August 10, 2024, 08:37:31 am
Never really been prolific, 42 goals in 8 years is not very good is it
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: roversdude on August 10, 2024, 08:56:45 am
He’s looked distant from the rest of the squad in preseason, can’t have helped with him not going to Portugal
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: ncRover on August 10, 2024, 09:16:13 am
Anyone think we'll be looking on down line at another Watters/May scenario?

Applying this thinking all the time would result in us constantly retaining sub-par players.

Watters hasn’t done much at all. A couple of purple patches and that’s it. Wouldn’t get in our starting XI now.

George can score as many as he likes, but it doesn’t matter because he doesn’t fit in to our team right now. And we will be finishing above Cheltenham.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Pancho Regan on August 10, 2024, 09:21:06 am
Good luck George, and thanks for your efforts during your time with the Rovers.

Let's hope that any goal-scoring chances he gets when playing against us fall on his left foot ....
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: silent majority on August 10, 2024, 11:06:21 am
More funds in GM’s kitty?

That's the crucial question. At the moment we are very much up against the limit when it comes to meeting our SCMP commitments, so we'll have to wheel and deal if we want to bring someone else in.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: rover-n-out on August 10, 2024, 11:22:31 am
Good luck George, and thank you for your time with us. I hope you can follow in Alfie's footsteps! Go for it!
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Nudga on August 10, 2024, 11:25:46 am
More funds in GM’s kitty?

That's the crucial question. At the moment we are very much up against the limit when it comes to meeting our SCMP commitments, so we'll have to wheel and deal if we want to bring someone else in.


Does Club Doncasters turnover/profit get taken into account or is that classed as a separate entity?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: jm291 on August 13, 2024, 11:58:36 am
Gone quiet on a replacement for him… anyone heard anything an incoming?
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: Northants Nomad on August 13, 2024, 12:05:03 pm
Gone quiet on a replacement for him… anyone heard anything an incoming?

McCann said in his interview - waiting on another club who had injury issue so still waiting to see if it will happen.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: pib on August 13, 2024, 12:07:44 pm
Good luck to him. Certainly seemed to have the right attitude and work-rate. A bit rough around the edges but there's a player in there I'm sure. Understand the decision to let him go though.
Title: Re: George Miller
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 13, 2024, 12:39:35 pm
It's no loss at all he was mainly a headless chicken

He was anything but. He has that rare knack of being able to find a yard of space in a crowded box.

Good luck to the lad.