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Title: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Red wizard on August 10, 2024, 06:11:58 pm
Is it me or did he look no different pace wise to what he was before? Let's be honest pace was never his main asset was it. When you have never had much pace to start with the less you have to adapt your game in your later years. His main struggles will be recovering after games. I'm no expert in fitness and sports science so could be way off in saying recovering will be harder the older you get so don't quote me on it. If he keeps fit and stays away from long spells out there is another year in him at least after this season. What a professional he is. Just having him around is huge for our younger players. He will get 15 plus thus season imo.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 10, 2024, 06:14:35 pm
His finish was absolutely superb. He hit a ball travelling at high velocity, turning and volleying into net, in a crowded box. High quality.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 10, 2024, 06:16:47 pm
He looks fit as a Butchers Dog.
He’s just turned the clock back 10 years. He’s on the Juggernaut….
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: ravenrover on August 10, 2024, 06:20:29 pm
At the time I thought he'd just touched it into the net but just watched it back....... that was one hell of a class finish
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: drfchound on August 10, 2024, 06:20:57 pm
Typical Sharpie goal today. A ball comes across the box and Billy puts it away from about six yards out.
The biggest surprise for me was that he put the earlier one on one chance wide.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bessie Red on August 10, 2024, 06:21:07 pm
His finish was absolutely superb. He hit a ball travelling at high velocity, turning and volleying into net, in a crowded box. High quality.
I dony think many if any strikers in league 2 would have finished that he just instinctively knows where to be & how to finish!
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: GazLaz on August 10, 2024, 06:25:19 pm
Can’t believe he missed the first chance he had. Put away the second chance beautifully.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Nudga on August 10, 2024, 06:43:25 pm
Can’t believe he missed the first chance he had. Put away the second chance beautifully.

He was just getting his arrows in on the first one.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: steve@dcfd on August 10, 2024, 06:47:38 pm
Because of my knee operation I watched the game on Sky Ironside appeared not be happy when he came off and GM was talking to him. Billy should have scored with his first touch and took his goal well.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: ncRover on August 10, 2024, 07:11:11 pm
Because of my knee operation I watched the game on Sky Ironside appeared not be happy when he came off and GM was talking to him. Billy should have scored with his first touch and took his goal well.

Thought he played well just didn’t get a chance. Might have been annoyed Molyneux didn’t pass to him with the chance that hit the bar?

Sharp looked fit and up for it.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 10, 2024, 09:48:28 pm
I think that takes Billy to 45 league goals for us across all his four spells:

15 in 2009/10 in Championship
15 in 2010/11 in Championship
10 in 2011/12 in Championship
4 in 2013/14 in Championship
1 in 2024/25 in League Two

I think that moves him ahead of Eddie Perry and Tony Leighton (both on 44). He can gobble up quite a lot now with not too many goals. If he finished this season with 11 league goals (55 league goals in total) he would be joint 10th with Doherty. So a total of 11 league goals this season would be an excellent return for him and take him squarely into historic status.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 10, 2024, 10:17:58 pm
Nothing unusual with Ironside - from minute 1, he was assaulted, with little, if any, protection from a hapless referee. Some things never change!
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: glosterred on August 10, 2024, 10:30:22 pm
The fat lad doing what the fat lad does…. End of



COYR
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 10, 2024, 10:43:55 pm
The best Rovers striker since King Alick.

He should be crowned King Billy.

 
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: IDM on August 10, 2024, 10:46:10 pm
The best Rovers striker since King Alick.

He should be crowned King Billy.

 

In that case BB, wouldn’t he be King Billy II.??
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 10, 2024, 10:47:50 pm
Who was King Billy 1?
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Nudga on August 10, 2024, 10:49:08 pm
Who was King Billy 1?

Bremner?
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 10, 2024, 10:53:23 pm
Bremner wasn't a striker!
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Nudga on August 10, 2024, 10:55:06 pm
No but he was a Billy
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: IDM on August 10, 2024, 11:00:52 pm
Shame on you BB for needing to ask.!!  :chair: :chair:

Can only imagine what we could have achieved had Bremner had the backing that GM has today..
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 10, 2024, 11:04:26 pm
No but he was a Billy
So was Whitehurst and Russell etc. I wasn't aware that any of them were christened King Billy while at Rovers though, were they?
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: IDM on August 10, 2024, 11:07:18 pm
BB, it’s more that Bremner had been one of the best players in the UK during the 70s, and he was OUR manager in the 4th division, and that was a great side.

No intention to distract from Sharp, perhaps a discussion for a different day?
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 10, 2024, 11:19:08 pm
But it was YOU who distracted from Sharp! Why do that if such a discussion was perhaps for a different day?
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: IDM on August 10, 2024, 11:41:41 pm
Bremner has been King Billy (at least to me) for decades, hence my point.  However then I was trying to be conciliatory and bring the thread back to Sharp. Never mind.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 10, 2024, 11:52:57 pm
Then you could have recommended him at the time to be crowned King Billy. I'm quite sure no one would have objected to it just because Billy Mordue was a highly respected Rovers player called Billy before him!

Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: LincsRover on August 11, 2024, 12:08:54 am
What struck me most about today was how much things have changed since last season. Imagine being Accrington, you’re 3-1 down and then we bring on Billy Sharp! Such strength in depth and options for every situation. I know Accrington were poor today and their fans are in for a long season, but I can see us ripping this league apart with this squad of players! 

We’ve got McCann, super grant McCann……

:woohoo:
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Peebles Rover on August 11, 2024, 12:14:03 am
Then you could have recommended him at the time to be crowned King Billy. I'm quite sure no one would have objected to it just because Billy Mordue was a highly respected Rovers player called Billy before him!



I honestly think we'd find something to argue about if we won 10-0
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Guernsey Exile on August 11, 2024, 12:31:32 am
Couldn't watch the match, but had a little cry when billy scored. He f**kin loves Donny.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: richtherover on August 11, 2024, 12:59:26 am
Funny thing about Bremner. Hated him as a player, firstly cause he played for Leeds and second cause he was just so annoying good. Absolutely loved him as Rovers manager. R.I.P King Billy
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Nudga on August 11, 2024, 09:07:00 am
Couldn't watch the match, but had a little cry when billy scored. He f**kin loves Donny.

I didn't shed any tears but I was over the moon for Billy to get his goal.
You could see in multiple interviews over the summer how much it hurt him not scoring an EFL goal last season.
Also, him choosing us to come back to and more than likely finishing his playing career here makes it so special.

Me and my lad met him at a football camp a few years ago and he's a really nice genuine bloke.
Love him to bits
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Jimmydee on August 11, 2024, 10:19:45 am
If Billy had scored from his first chance then I would have equalled it in awe to his wonder goal against Middlesbrough
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: colincramb on August 11, 2024, 11:14:29 am
He doesn’t need pace, he never has. He’s a natural goal scorer that instinctively puts himself in the right positions. That finish was class yesterday and he reacted far quicker than anyone else. He could be the difference in the right games this season
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Donny Dub on August 12, 2024, 12:29:58 pm
I don’t think he could believe he’d missed it by his reaction.  It was a marker!
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2024, 12:41:47 pm
It was a surprising miss, but that's because of how good he is.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Goole Rover on August 12, 2024, 01:16:44 pm
The best Rovers striker since King Alick.

He should be crowned King Billy.
One omission there Bentley have you forgotten Laurie.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: les@donr on August 12, 2024, 08:58:11 pm
I think Billy has a few seasons left with us including being a player/coach like Nigel Clough at Burton.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2024, 09:16:59 pm
The best Rovers striker since King Alick.

He should be crowned King Billy.
One omission there Bentley have you forgotten Laurie.
Sheffield was a great player and warranted being called King Laurie. Trouble is, Alick was the king then, so I suppose having two kings in the team would have somewhat diluted the honour.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Donnywolf on August 13, 2024, 06:40:15 am
If Billy had scored from his first chance then I would have equalled it in awe to his wonder goal against Middlesbrough

I noticed he ran ( whether by design or coincidence ) to roughly the same spot as he paid his tribute to son after the Boro goal
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 13, 2024, 07:42:26 am
If Billy had scored from his first chance then I would have equalled it in awe to his wonder goal against Middlesbrough

I noticed he ran ( whether by design or coincidence ) to roughly the same spot as he paid his tribute to son after the Boro goal
I noticed that. Back then I used to sit at that end and he paid his tribute right in front of us.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Drover on August 13, 2024, 10:54:49 am
See The Mirror stirring up old story of Billy and Wrecksham ,must be running out of news
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ryan-reynolds-sheffield-united-wrexham-33450182
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Red wizard on August 13, 2024, 09:41:25 pm
Another goal. Can see him keeping Ironside out the side me.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: ncRover on August 14, 2024, 01:02:03 pm
Another goal. Can see him keeping Ironside out the side me.

It won’t work that way. Over the 55+ games this season they will rotate. That keeps them both fresh.

I don’t know the guy but I feel like Joe is someone who needs to feel secure and appreciated. His form dipped last year as soon as Biamou came in. He was then absolutely superb again once Max got injured.

He doesn’t have that natural ability that Billy has but he got 20 league goals last year and he’s also a big physical presence who links the play well to allow the goal scoring wide players to flourish. He gets through a lot of hard work for the team.

Obviously Billy is a legend and was always going to get a big reception but I will feel for Joe if that continues every time he comes off for him. I think if he feels the love from the fans he will stay confident.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Red wizard on August 15, 2024, 05:38:11 pm
Joe knows he is loved here. I think all the players will know the bond we have with Billy. Billy will always be a blade but he also knows he's loved here and I'm happy to be second best in his heart.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Bills view on August 15, 2024, 05:52:57 pm
Joe was the star man all last season even when we struggled. A top player who gives his all.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 15, 2024, 07:08:10 pm
It would be interesting to see if GM would ever play them together. Imagine that…
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 15, 2024, 08:00:13 pm
It would be interesting to see if GM would ever play them together. Imagine that…

It will happen at some point and it will be interesting to see the dynamic between the two. Perhaps if we're chasing the game? Maybe needing a winner at Goodison Park?

Molyneux, Ironside...Shaaaaaarrrrrp!
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: Campsall rover on August 15, 2024, 08:39:40 pm
It would be interesting to see if GM would ever play them together. Imagine that…

It will happen at some point and it will be interesting to see the dynamic between the two. Perhaps if we're chasing the game? Maybe needing a winner at Goodison Park?

Molyneux, Ironside...Shaaaaaarrrrrp!
And Gibson
All 4 on pitch at same time. That could happen. Gibson is going to be a massive player for us also this season. Seen enough already to know that.

Best front 4 we have had for a long time. Probably since Copps, Brown, Painter & Cotterill in 2012/13 season. We also had Hulme that season.
Wilks Marquis and Rowe in 2018/19 but we didn’t have a 4th player really as Alfie May wasn’t the player then with us that he became later after leaving.
Title: Re: Billy Sharp.
Post by: NickDRFC on August 15, 2024, 09:01:11 pm
It would be interesting to see if GM would ever play them together. Imagine that…

It will happen at some point and it will be interesting to see the dynamic between the two. Perhaps if we're chasing the game? Maybe needing a winner at Goodison Park?

Molyneux, Ironside...Shaaaaaarrrrrp!
And Gibson
All 4 on pitch at same time. That could happen. Gibson is going to be a massive player for us also this season. Seen enough already to know that.

Best front 4 we have had for a long time. Probably since Copps, Brown, Painter & Cotterill in 2012/13 season. We also had Hulme that season.
Wilks Marquis and Rowe in 2018/19 but we didn’t have a 4th player really as Alfie May wasn’t the player then with us that he became later after leaving.

In 2018/19, Tommy Rowe was in and out of the team that season and largely played in midfield, Copps would have played a lot more than him. I don’t remember either being prolific, though.

In 2012/13 Copps missed half the season as he was at Forest, I imagine that Kyle Bennett would have played more than he did in that team.

The last time I saw us as having goal scoring potential from so many different players was probably when we got promoted from League Two - Marquis obviously the main man but Williams, Copps, Rowe all chipped in and Mandeville had a bit of a purple patch where he scored a few.