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Title: Sharp
Post by: philsky on August 13, 2024, 08:39:49 pm
https://x.com/philskyross1962/status/1823438753702051852
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 13, 2024, 08:41:59 pm
https://x.com/philskyross1962/status/1823438753702051852
Cheers Philskey.. appreciate as not seen.
What a lad he is …
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: LincsRover on August 13, 2024, 09:25:20 pm
That’s a classy finish, he hasn’t lost it!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: ChrisBx on August 13, 2024, 09:58:46 pm
He's going to toy with League Two this season!
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: StocksArmy on August 13, 2024, 10:06:54 pm
Looks as fit now as he ever has done. He is everything you want in a striker.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 13, 2024, 10:07:31 pm
He looks like a dad showing off his sleeky skills to his kids on the beach.

Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: DRNaith on August 13, 2024, 10:09:30 pm
He's the leanest I've ever seen him
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 13, 2024, 10:11:56 pm
Thin lad from Sheffield.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: tommy toes on August 13, 2024, 10:16:30 pm
Great goal from Billy. Too good for this league!
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 13, 2024, 10:20:48 pm
when we saw it was pi$$ing it down he had his ideal conditions  ...      the rain to slow the buggers down 
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: RobTheRover on August 13, 2024, 11:27:46 pm
Love how he sent those two defenders for a hot dog.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: The Beast on August 14, 2024, 12:13:24 am
Love how he sent those two defenders for a hot dog.
Think their number 16 is still trying to turnaround now!
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Darren on August 14, 2024, 09:29:54 am
He looks like a dad showing off his sleeky skills to his kids on the beach.


 Exactly this, watch the goal with this in mind, you can almost hear the kids complain "But dad, you said you was going to take it easy on us! I'm telling mam".
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 14, 2024, 09:35:24 am
Love how he sent those two defenders for a hot dog.

I thought those types of goals, going in from 30 yards out, might have been behind him now, but on that evidence he looks as Sharp and composed as ever.

Hope Ironside gets off the mark soon before Billy hogs all the limelight.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: keyser_soze on August 14, 2024, 10:57:33 am
Note that McCann said in his interview he had a bit of a word in Ironsides ear after bringing him off on Saturday, pointing out the part he played even by not scoring. Ironside is definitely McCann's man and I hope we can accommodate and keep both players happy, they do offer slightly different attributes and we can deploy them tactically and swap them when needed.

We've got no business having Sharp in this division even at this stage of his career, he's still head and shoulders above from what I have seen, and its only the credit that we built up with his history (plus the proximity to his home in Sheffield i'll warrant!) that has enabled this deal to come together. What better way to spend the twilight of his career than driving DRFC back to where he left us.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: colincramb on August 14, 2024, 12:12:28 pm
Said it earlier on and I will say it again. He will be the difference in the tight games. Master stroke bringing him back. No other team in this league has a striker of his quality.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 14, 2024, 01:16:01 pm
Said it earlier on and I will say it again. He will be the difference in the tight games. Master stroke bringing him back. No other team in this league has a striker of his quality.

We would like to think we have the TWO best strikers in the division, supported by the best TWO wide men in the division in Molyneux and Gibson (Or Hurst) .
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2024, 10:42:09 am
Another angle...

https://fb.watch/tZxHCoft2d/
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: CJK on August 15, 2024, 12:38:00 pm
Note that McCann said in his interview he had a bit of a word in Ironsides ear after bringing him off on Saturday, pointing out the part he played even by not scoring. Ironside is definitely McCann's man and I hope we can accommodate and keep both players happy, they do offer slightly different attributes and we can deploy them tactically and swap them when needed.

We've got no business having Sharp in this division even at this stage of his career, he's still head and shoulders above from what I have seen, and its only the credit that we built up with his history (plus the proximity to his home in Sheffield i'll warrant!) that has enabled this deal to come together. What better way to spend the twilight of his career than driving DRFC back to where he left us.

Made this point to my Dad whilst walking away from the ground on Saturday. Ironside did so much without adding a goal, then Billy comes on and scores. We're really lucky to have both. If Ironside continues to do the main work over 70 minutes and then Sharp comes on at the end, that will do for me.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Campsall rover on August 15, 2024, 12:51:28 pm
Even if Joe Ironside does not score he is still the main man for me.
Would not swap him for anyone else playing in this league. No one.

Joe is the cake. Billy is the icing on the top.

I still think Ironside will score 15 this season but whatever he will have done the work on the pitch for 65 mins which will have run opposing defences ragged.
Billy just comes on against tired legs and finishes the job.
Master stroke.
Keep these 2 guys fit along with Molly and Gibson and we could get 100 points this season and 90 goals.
Yes i know I am getting giddy but it’s great fun being this giddy.

Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Campsall rover on August 15, 2024, 12:56:27 pm
Is it possible we could have 3 players with 20 goals this season?
I don’t think it’s impossible, unlikely maybe.
I do think we will have 4 players in double figures just in the League.

When was the last team to have 3 with 20+ then. I think that’s extremely rare.

One for DU or any other Statto
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 15, 2024, 12:58:00 pm
It’s a squad that gets promotion, not a team.

For years we have struggled to even get a competitive team. We now have a whole squad of competitive players. This is a good time to be supporting Rovers.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 15, 2024, 01:08:54 pm
Even if Joe Ironside does not score he is still the main man for me.
Would not swap him for anyone else playing in this league. No one.

Joe is the cake. Billy is the icing on the top.

I still think Ironside will score 15 this season but whatever he will have done the work on the pitch for 65 mins which will have run opposing defences ragged.
Billy just comes on against tired legs and finishes the job.
Master stroke.
Keep these 2 guys fit along with Molly and Gibson and we could get 100 points this season and 90 goals.
Yes i know I am getting giddy but it’s great fun being this giddy.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 15, 2024, 01:20:51 pm
Totally agree CR Joe is critical to our team, it’s quite sometime since we had that type of player. Similar to Chris brown where he didn’t always score, but other would due to his work rate in games. Joe didn’t seem too pleased at being taken off on Saturday, however it’s good to see we can take him off to given him a rest, he can’t keep getting battered for 90 mins for every game.
Seems like grant spoke to him straight away and has stated he considers we have the best two strikers in the league.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 15, 2024, 01:32:19 pm
Is it possible we could have 3 players with 20 goals this season?
I don’t think it’s impossible, unlikely maybe.
I do think we will have 4 players in double figures just in the League.

When was the last team to have 3 with 20+ then. I think that’s extremely rare.

One for DU or any other Statto

The team I always remember was Chester and their remarkable forward line in 1964-65. That was in the days of the WM or 2-3-5 formation with a centre-forward, two inside forwards and two wingers. That was the season Alick was top scorer in the whole country in the FL (36) and in all competitions (39)

Four of the Chester front 5 scored 20+ in the League, and all five scored 20+ in all competitions (only FA and FL Cups in those days). Their utter domination of the club's scoring charts was quite extraordinary:

League: Talbot 28, Metcalf 27, Morris 24, Ryden 20, Humes 17, Corbishley 1, Durie 1, Hauser 1 (Total 119)

All Comps: Metcalf 37, Talbot 35, Morris 26, Ryden 20, Humes 20, Corbishley 1, Durie 1, Hauser 1 (Total 141) 

Unfortunately for them, their defence conceded 81 goals in the league and they finished only eighth in Division 4, just one place above Rovers. 

Edit: I recall that during that season Gary Talbot also worked as a freelance photographer for one of the main national newspapers - The Daily Mail I think. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Talbot

Final Edit: There is a link in the references at the bottom Talbot's wiki page to our very own James Hayter  :)

(Also Talbot corrected to 28 league goals)
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Campsall rover on August 15, 2024, 01:32:43 pm
It’s a squad that gets promotion, not a team.

For years we have struggled to even get a competitive team. We now have a whole squad of competitive players. This is a good time to be supporting Rovers.
Don’t disagree CBcb
Just saying though those front players will win this league for us. Simply the  no of goals we score this season.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Campsall rover on August 15, 2024, 01:36:58 pm
Is it possible we could have 3 players with 20 goals this season?
I don’t think it’s impossible, unlikely maybe.
I do think we will have 4 players in double figures just in the League.

When was the last team to have 3 with 20+ then. I think that’s extremely rare.

One for DU or any other Statto

The team I always remember was Chester and their remarkable forward line in 1964-65. That was in the days of the WM or 2-3-5 formation with a centre-forward, two inside forwards and two wingers. That was the season Alick was top scorer in the whole country in the FL (36) and in all competitions (39)

Four of the Chester front 5 scored 20+ in the League, and all five scored 20+ in all competitions (only FA and FL Cups in those days). Their utter domination of the club's scoring charts was quite extraordinary:

League: Talbot 27, Metcalf 27, Morris 24, Ryden 20, Humes 17, Corbishley 1, Durie 1, Hauser 1 (Total 119)

All Comps: Metcalf 37, Talbot 35, Morris 26, Ryden 20, Humes 20, Corbishley 1, Durie 1, Hauser 1 (Total 141) 

Unfortunately for them, their defence conceded 81 goals in the league and they finished only eighth in Division 4, just one place above Rovers.
DU that was quick. Ever tried running the 100 metres.  :)

That’s some record Chester had then that season. 4 players on 20 +
Will that ever be be equalled. Unlikely I would suggest.

Thanks DU for info.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 15, 2024, 01:40:20 pm
Is it possible we could have 3 players with 20 goals this season?
I don’t think it’s impossible, unlikely maybe.
I do think we will have 4 players in double figures just in the League.

When was the last team to have 3 with 20+ then. I think that’s extremely rare.

One for DU or any other Statto

The team I always remember was Chester and their remarkable forward line in 1964-65. That was in the days of the WM or 2-3-5 formation with a centre-forward, two inside forwards and two wingers. That was the season Alick was top scorer in the whole country in the FL (36) and in all competitions (39)

Four of the Chester front 5 scored 20+ in the League, and all five scored 20+ in all competitions (only FA and FL Cups in those days). Their utter domination of the club's scoring charts was quite extraordinary:

League: Talbot 27, Metcalf 27, Morris 24, Ryden 20, Humes 17, Corbishley 1, Durie 1, Hauser 1 (Total 119)

All Comps: Metcalf 37, Talbot 35, Morris 26, Ryden 20, Humes 20, Corbishley 1, Durie 1, Hauser 1 (Total 141) 

Unfortunately for them, their defence conceded 81 goals in the league and they finished only eighth in Division 4, just one place above Rovers.
DU that was quick. Ever tried running the 100 metres.  :)

That’s some record Chester had then that season. 4 players on 20 +
Will that ever be be equalled. Unlikely I would suggest.

Thanks DU for info.

Not saying it was the last time Camps, it is just that Chester and their goalscorers left an indelible mark on me that season, including an exciting but lethal 4-1 win at Belle Vue on a rainsoaked evening

Edit: As far as Rovers go, unsurprsingly the nearest we came to three players with 20+ goals is 1946-47:

Clarrie Jordan          42 (44 incl FA Cup)
Paul Todd                 23 (26 incl FA Cup)
Ralph Maddison        17 (18 incl FA Cup)

Some sources had Todd with 27 league goals but 26 is now accepted by JC and the Club (nearly wrote Sunshine Band there  :lol:)
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: drfchound on August 15, 2024, 01:48:24 pm
I had a look at the final Division four table for that 1964/65 season and by my reckoning 16 of the 24 teams have either been out of the league and got back in or are still out of the Football League.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 15, 2024, 01:54:02 pm
I had a look at the final Division four table for that 1964/65 season and by my reckoning 16 of the 24 teams have either been out of the league and got back in or are still out of the Football League.

I think I make it 20 Hound, with only Brighton, Millwall, Crewe, and Bradford City being continuous league members since then  :ohmy:
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: drfchound on August 15, 2024, 02:06:46 pm
I had a look at the final Division four table for that 1964/65 season and by my reckoning 16 of the 24 teams have either been out of the league and got back in or are still out of the Football League.

I think I make it 20 Hound, with only Brighton, Millwall, Crewe, and Bradford City being continuous league members since then  :ohmy:

I won’t disagree with that Dutch.
I didn’t check anywhere but just went from my own memory.
There were some I wasn’t sure about and I bow to your superior knowledge.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2024, 02:28:23 pm
His goal on Tuesday reminded me of El Fenomeno's most famous goal.

https://youtu.be/qE774yQX6uQ?si=-UkR9LELzOQOL0Je

Alreight, I'm stretching it. But to be fair, Sharp IS twice the age that Ronaldo was back then.
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 15, 2024, 02:29:28 pm
I had a look at the final Division four table for that 1964/65 season and by my reckoning 16 of the 24 teams have either been out of the league and got back in or are still out of the Football League.

I think I make it 20 Hound, with only Brighton, Millwall, Crewe, and Bradford City being continuous league members since then  :ohmy:

I won’t disagree with that Dutch.
I didn’t check anywhere but just went from my own memory.
There were some I wasn’t sure about and I bow to your superior knowledge.

Just strengthens your suggested  point about volatility in the bottom division since automatic promotion from the conference replaced the annual 'turkeys voting for Christmas' re-election charade
Title: Re: Sharp
Post by: ForsolongaRover on August 15, 2024, 03:33:01 pm
I had a look at the final Division four table for that 1964/65 season and by my reckoning 16 of the 24 teams have either been out of the league and got back in or are still out of the Football League.

I think I make it 20 Hound, with only Brighton, Millwall, Crewe, and Bradford City being continuous league members since then  :ohmy:

I won’t disagree with that Dutch.
I didn’t check anywhere but just went from my own memory.
There were some I wasn’t sure about and I bow to your superior knowledge.

Just strengthens your suggested  point about volatility in the bottom division since automatic promotion from the conference replaced the annual 'turkeys voting for Christmas' re-election charade

The "Old pals act" of that era was somewhat geographically based. Workington and Gateshead certainly lost their status seemingly for that reason, possibly Barrow too and Crewe benefited from it several times. They were conspicuously bad, yet got back time and again.