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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: German Rover on August 27, 2024, 06:37:42 pm
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Hakeeb Adelakun ended up playing in the trialist game against Cambridge this afternoon.
Shame it ended up like this for him
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He has only his self to blame, he was offered a contract with us and turned it down
COYR
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He’ll get picked up ! Probably not on the mula he’s expecting, however after the end of last seasons performances for us, somebody will take a chance on him !
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I think that ship has well and truly sailed. Shame, but GM knows best.
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The grass on the other side is strewn with used johnnies, broken beer bottles and the elusive but magical white dog turds.
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He’s played in these games already this summer. It’s not news, but still interesting that he hasn’t been picked up yet, nor some of the stronger players in that PFA set up. They’ve played in these before this close season.
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Haks is currently the biggest miss from last season.
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Cant believe we are talking about Haks when there is Ravel Morrison and Dwight Gayle on there!
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I don’t know about the biggest, nc, but imho, we havn’t replaced any of the 3 - Haks, Craig or TLT - like for like. There’s plenty of time for the 3 replacees (Gibson, Kelly and TSL) to improve and maybe even surpass the previous loanees.
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I don’t understand this we haven’t replaced those 3 but in time they may well be better.
Youve got to go like for like and after 2/3 games they’re at least on a par with those 3 after 2/3 games
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He’ll get picked up ! Probably not on the mula he’s expecting, however after the end of last seasons performances for us, somebody will take a chance on him !
The last 5 or so games for us were pretty poor from him tbf, I honestly thought his head had been turned and was going to be snapped up an hour after missing that penalty.
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I don’t know about the biggest, nc, but imho, we havn’t replaced any of the 3 - Haks, Craig or TLT - like for like. There’s plenty of time for the 3 replacees (Gibson, Kelly and TSL) to improve and maybe even surpass the previous loanees.
Yes, we await, if our current crop surpass those three if they do then we will be champions by Easter.
Why didn’t they stay?
What a career enhancer for all of them.
They stay and they absolutely walk it..
League one… show some form… CV strengthens..
just don’t get it at all.
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He's a month away from if he doesnt get offered more than 25% on top of what we offered he's gonna end up with less on his contract for the year in the end.
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I don’t know about the biggest, nc, but imho, we havn’t replaced any of the 3 - Haks, Craig or TLT - like for like. There’s plenty of time for the 3 replacees (Gibson, Kelly and TSL) to improve and maybe even surpass the previous loanees.
Agreed, and it is realistic to hope for them to get better. Kelly and TSL are at the stage in their careers when they can come on very quickly if the talent is there and they are shaping up well. I don't think TSL has let us down in any obvious way which is a major consideration for a GK. Gibson is older and perhaps we can expect consolidation with good coaching. But beyond these three, the overall strength is a good deal greater now than in December last.
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I don’t know about the biggest, nc, but imho, we havn’t replaced any of the 3 - Haks, Craig or TLT - like for like. There’s plenty of time for the 3 replacees (Gibson, Kelly and TSL) to improve and maybe even surpass the previous loanees.
Yes, we await, if our current crop surpass those three if they do then we will be champions by Easter.
Why didn’t they stay?
What a career enhancer for all of them.
They stay and they absolutely walk it..
League one… show some form… CV strengthens..
just don’t get it at all.
“They”.??
Realistically only Haks could have stayed as the others were loanees..
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Haks was a loanee.
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Haks was a loanee.
But a loaner we knew was out of contract at the end of the season, and had a good track record of working with McCann.
It's a shame really. I heard the number his agent was asking for a week was eye watering. Maybe he realises he isn't gonna get anything like that now.
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Badly advised. He only had to say “yes” and would have had a contract with Rovers. I think Gibson will better and he is ours. As GM has said Haks is no longer our concern.
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I wouldn't take him back personally
Regardless of what he did for us his overall career stats and track record is poor
Turned what Grant called a good offer down
Made your bed now lay in it.
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He’ll get a club. He can obviously sign after the deadline being a free agent so no rush for him.
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A club that is prepared to gamble on him.
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Yes,he'll get a club,BUT it will depend how long it is before his agent lowers his demands enough before it will,could be Christmas,can see why Lincoln wanted shut.
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He’ll get a club. He can obviously sign after the deadline being a free agent so no rush for him.
Not playing games won't improve his talent and "not playing games" has been a feature of his whole career. Football agents eh? Has anyone ever met one? I'm not sure I'd want to.
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Can’t imagine there would be many clubs be willing to offer him more than a one year deal. He only plays well when he’s playing for a contract.
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He will probably get a club but probably not on the type of money he is hoping for.
As the weeks drift by with no wages he is losing income of course.
It is a bit like people who go on strike, do they ever get back the money they missed out on by being on strike?
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He didn't sound like a player in a rush to decide things anyway, even when he was with us and was asked the question.
There could be all sorts of reasons why he's taking his time. He might even be considering abroad if the opportunity came but he strikes me as someone who's confident he'll get a good deal where he prefers and is prepared to wait. Also doubt he'd ever consider back tracking and consider us plus, he probably wouldn't get a very warm reception from the rest of our players given his stance.
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I think judging by some comments people do not realise he was the biggest catalyst to the run, yes TLT was great, Craig also, but neither had the overall impact he did, he raised the players game, asked more from them , gave them all a confidence.He gave his absolute all in that short time, running himself to a stop - which eventually saw a drop off in earlier form.
I would have him back in a heartbeat , a real shame he or his agent don’t want this.
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The problem is, he is not thinking properly.
Before he came to Donny, he had been out on loan to various and he knew Lincoln didn't want him. he couldn't even say he was treading water.
With our management and coaching they could see something in him and he could fit in our system and of course enhance the team but ONLY with Grant and Cliff showing the way which he played to his best.
He was offered a deal to keep playing a GREAT game.
He needs to get his head straight as now he is losing the BEST days of his life as a footballer .....something he had worked from being a kid, a massive percentage don't get that chance.
For goodness sake he needs the people he can trust around him and it seems that is DRFC management and not it seems his advisor who is just looking out for the "big money" which may never come but not for the player himself.
Knuckle down and PLAY the game while you can.
He is Not a gamble for us , we know playing in our team he can make a name for himself.
A footballers playing life is not for that long, take the advantage that a team that IS GOING places liked his playing style as GM and CB showed how to go .
Would I have him back now ?...............Hell Yes ..sign TODAY! .............but next year?......a year gone as a non playing footballer....no thank you.
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McCann gave him free reign to play to his strengths and set the team up to support him doing so. Somehow in the last few games the long diagonal bass upfield to him enabling him to cut in seemed to diminish and his impact was less. Maybe the oppo had him sussed by then. We have moved on and.he has by his choice been left behind. It is what it is.
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Totally agree with JMT and LincolnD there. What on earth is he thinking?
And as said, I’d have him back today, he’s every thing we need, a real handful and a bit of muscle.
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I believe his brother ( semi pro himself) is his agent.
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I think there’s some really OTT criticism of his decision here. If he thinks he can get and deserves a contract better than what he was offered, why shouldn’t he hold out for it? It’s a short career. And if he ends up on a lower contract, so what? You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. He might regret turning us down but then again he might not. That’s life.
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Never quite got this ‘it’s a short career’ there’s many opportunities for a former footballer.
Just like any other worker, who has to change their job. Very few folk work for the same company for their whole lives. 20 years in one job is a long time and a pretty good achievement.
It’s almost like the poor so and so’s are shot the moment they can’t kick a ball anymore.
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The trouble with alot of ex footballers is that they do struggle when the retire. A great many never put the hours in at school, concentrating only on their fledgling football careers.
Zoom forward 20 years and you have a relatively young bloke with not a great deal to offer a prospective employer if he hasn't gone down the coaching role avenue.
Remember kids, never neglect your schoolwork, soon enough it will come back and bite you squarely in the ass
As for Adelakun, yes its a great shame he didn't take up our offer, good player that we could of benefitted from. As it is he didn't, we don't and we move on,
NOBODY is indispensable in this life, even the few who think they are.
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
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Haks has signed for Salford
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Wow speechless
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Wow. No way they have offered big bucks.
Look forward to seeing how he performs against us. Reckon some of the lads will give it him.
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Awful from the agent involved but he is old enough to know better. We have moved on!
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Obviously they have been known to throw stupid money at players previously, but surely he must be thinking he’s dropped a massive bollock here.
He’s ended up signing for a much worse club. The word idiot springs to mind.
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Oh FFS
That’s Salford as another promotion rival now
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
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Obviously they have been known to throw stupid money at players previously, but surely he must be thinking he’s dropped a massive bollock here.
He’s ended up signing for a much worse club. The word idiot springs to mind.
Sums it up for me, feels like a crazy decision from him. We'll obviously never know what we offered him and why he didn't fancy it. Perhaps the offer to him wasn't great, who knows?
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He signed on a one year deal as well.
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So probably earning less with fact he's earnt nothing for 2 months
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Obviously they have been known to throw stupid money at players previously, but surely he must be thinking he’s dropped a massive bollock here.
He’s ended up signing for a much worse club. The word idiot springs to mind.
Sums it up for me, feels like a crazy decision from him. We'll obviously never know what we offered him and why he didn't fancy it. Perhaps the offer to him wasn't great, who knows?
i reckon the offer from us would have been decent, but he, or his agent thought he could do better. Who knows if Salford have offered more but one year is not an endorsement or commitment to his ability.
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The fact that this is how it’s ended up must surely mean he and his agent overvalued him beyond belief over the summer. Mad really.
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He got his glamour move to a big city club then.
He made his choice. End of.
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He should be sacking his agent
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No doubt his agent will have been tote'ing the goals he scored for us around the EFL as though he was the next f*****g Thierry Henry! That hasn't worked out too well has it? S**t fer brains!!
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As we struggle to find a formula to get our midfield up the pitch and bring Joe into the game that looks a great signing by Salford. Hopefully today will show that we are making progress in replacing Adelakuns impact.
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Lucky Salford. What a a signing for them.
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Depends on which haks they get the one that played for Lincoln and didn’t do much or the one that played for us
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
Even on the lowest figure the players should be able to save £20,000 a year
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Depends on which haks they get the one that played for Lincoln and didn’t do much or the one that played for us
Well if they get the Haks who played for us, this is a hell of a signing for Salford.
And with all due respect to Salford, this is surely a disappointing move for Haks. It smacks of desperation and was clearly not the outcome he or his agent had in mind when they turned down our offer.
Not only has he not moved upwards, he has more than likely moved downwards and even then has only secured a one-year deal.
He played the best and most productive football of his career so far when he was with us, and had the chance to continue to progress.
Silly, silly man.
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
Even on the lowest figure the players should be able to save £20,000 a year
Someone earning £52k a year will only save £20k if they live with their parents.
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Depends on which haks they get the one that played for Lincoln and didn’t do much or the one that played for us
Well if they get the Haks who played for us, this is a hell of a signing for Salford.
And with all due respect to Salford, this is surely a disappointing move for Haks. It smacks of desperation and was clearly not the outcome he or his agent had in mind when they turned down our offer.
Not only has he not moved upwards, he has more than likely moved downwards and even then has only secured a one-year deal.
He played the best and most productive football of his career so far when he was with us, and had the chance to continue to progress.
Silly, silly man.
Have a monute and just remember where we were when he signed for us
And played some of his best football for part of the time he was here, can't say he did for the last few games
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Depends on which haks they get the one that played for Lincoln and didn’t do much or the one that played for us
Well if they get the Haks who played for us, this is a hell of a signing for Salford.
And with all due respect to Salford, this is surely a disappointing move for Haks. It smacks of desperation and was clearly not the outcome he or his agent had in mind when they turned down our offer.
Not only has he not moved upwards, he has more than likely moved downwards and even then has only secured a one-year deal.
He played the best and most productive football of his career so far when he was with us, and had the chance to continue to progress.
Silly, silly man.
Have a monute and just remember where we were when he signed for us
And played some of his best football for part of the time he was here, can't say he did for the last few games
Different circumstances though. He only signed for us on loan and he had worked with McCann before. He’s not even guaranteed to be a success at Salford, remember he played 21 games for Gills and didn’t score a goal.
Him and or his agent have dropped a massive one here.
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I know we’ve started well but I think we are missing him.
A real shame what’s happened and it’s obvious he’s been badly advised.
Salford have signed a good player, whether he can be the brilliant player McCann got going is a different story.
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
Even on the lowest figure the players should be able to save £20,000 a year
Save 20k a year on a grand a week???
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He signed on a one year deal as well.
I think this is very significant. I cannot believe that Rovers would be offering anything less than 2 years and Salford would not offer just a year if there was any real competition from another club. This looks like the best he could get, and as we all think, he let his agent back himself into a corner. You also wonder how well he played in the trial games - possibly not very impressively - more like he did v Crewe in the second leg perhaps.
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He had a purple patch with us. Will be interesting to see if he can repeat it. I think not.
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
Even on the lowest figure the players should be able to save £20,000 a year
Someone earning £52k a year will only save £20k if they live with their parents.
They will be able to £20,000 a year, because who is going to spend on average over £600 a week, every week.
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It's not that hard. Don't forget that most of these lads don't have the experience, and often the foresight, to plan for the future. Mortgage, poll tax, car loan, petrol, food, clothes, tv and satellite subscriptions, mobile phone could easily eat up that much a week for the unwary. A rough grossing up suggests that would be about £43K pa gross being spent. If they earned the posited £52K pa they wouldn't be broke so they could believe they were doing alright.
BobG
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If you are earning £52,000 gross, then your take home is around £40,000 net. If you are then saving £20,000 annually, you are living on £385 per week or around £1500 a month. That’s assuming you make zero (£0) pension contributions whatsoever.
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Ok CB. I'll take your number. Mine was purely a rough guesstimate. So it would therefore be impossible, without borrowing, to spend 600 quid a week.
BobG
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He was a gun for hire, and to the highest bidder. Grant had to do what he did and give him an offer but also a deadline, for the good of DRFC. There can be no doubt Grant, and we all wanted him to sign.
Great for Salford, be interesting to see if he can perform for someone other than Grant. He is too good for this level, he has something that I’ve never seen at this level. All the best to him apart from one game.
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
Even on the lowest figure the players should be able to save £20,000 a year
Someone earning £52k a year will only save £20k if they live with their parents.
They will be able to £20,000 a year, because who is going to spend on average over £600 a week, every week.
I spend double that a week if you take into account my mortgage etc. Probably spend a third that £600 you say you can’t spend on food alone. Child care is a fortune. It’s not the 80s any more mate!
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
Even on the lowest figure the players should be able to save £20,000 a year
Someone earning £52k a year will only save £20k if they live with their parents.
They will be able to £20,000 a year, because who is going to spend on average over £600 a week, every week.
I spend double that a week if you take into account my mortgage etc. Probably spend a third that £600 you say you can’t spend on food alone. Child care is a fortune. It’s not the 80s any more mate!
Potentially car on finance too. Then knowing your career ends at 35 you'll potentially want to make mortgage overpayments. Also depending on where you live your house price is going to vary dramatically if I play for Leyton Orient compared to Doncaster.
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
Even on the lowest figure the players should be able to save £20,000 a year
Someone earning £52k a year will only save £20k if they live with their parents.
They will be able to £20,000 a year, because who is going to spend on average over £600 a week, every week.
I spend double that a week if you take into account my mortgage etc. Probably spend a third that £600 you say you can’t spend on food alone. Child care is a fortune. It’s not the 80s any more mate!
If you can afford to spend double that good luck to you, you must have a well paid job and good luck to you on that and must have worked hard to get that far.
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
Even on the lowest figure the players should be able to save £20,000 a year
Someone earning £52k a year will only save £20k if they live with their parents.
They will be able to £20,000 a year, because who is going to spend on average over £600 a week, every week.
I spend double that a week if you take into account my mortgage etc. Probably spend a third that £600 you say you can’t spend on food alone. Child care is a fortune. It’s not the 80s any more mate!
If you can afford to spend double that good luck to you, you must have a well paid job and good luck to you on that and must have worked hard to get that far.
But the footballers on £50K will have well paid jobs so may have similar spending habits.
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Just spotted he’d go Salford. Poor move daft lad.
1k a Wk pre tax isn’t big money now abd anyone wanting to own a house a car and have a life ain’t saving 20k a year!!!
Middle management jobs earn more than L2 players and a lot of them you get a company car. That said you have to stare at a computer and not have a kick about with your mates everyday so it’s not all that
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Salford on Sky now, Adelakun on the bench.
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Yeah,I'm watching the Salford game waiting to see if he gets any game time. Not a very inspiring game, nothing I can see from either team to concern us if we play to our strength's. Nice bit of skill from the Everton loanee Salford have got, but the defender should have dealt with him and not let him do a 1, 2 and skip by him.
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Adelakun just come on for Salford. Still 1-0.
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Hope he doesnt score, Just to smile at the many know it alls….
A kind of a reverse Alfie May thread
Haks was so good for us but ….’I knew he was rubbish…glad we got rid’ .
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He’s playing up front
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Let’s hope Williamson keeps his job until after they play us. These are poor.
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If we beat them he will probably get sacked for losing to the likes of Doncaster.
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Most lower league players will still get a good 6 to 10 years of a very good wage. Even the poorer players have to be paid 425 a week basic. Add appearance fee clean sheet,goal and assist bonus and they probably earn 600 at the very least. A good percentage will be on a thousand plus a week. Them in league one will be 2 to 2.5 plus bonus. If they can't save a good nest egg up earning 100k for 7 years to 15 years I'd be surprised. There alot better off than most of us.
Apparently the average League 2 wage is £1k-£3k per week
Even on the lowest figure the players should be able to save £20,000 a year
Someone earning £52k a year will only save £20k if they live with their parents.
They will be able to £20,000 a year, because who is going to spend on average over £600 a week, every week.
I spend double that a week if you take into account my mortgage etc. Probably spend a third that £600 you say you can’t spend on food alone. Child care is a fortune. It’s not the 80s any more mate!
If you can afford to spend double that good luck to you, you must have a well paid job and good luck to you on that and must have worked hard to get that far.
But the footballers on £50K will have well paid jobs so may have similar spending habits.
50k a year isn’t a lot of money these days. It really isn’t.
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Absolutely diabolical start for well known thieves MK ‘Dons’. Were among favourites for promotion. Terrible run of form so far this season.
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Salford went two up front when Hak's came on, he was running about like a headless chicken chasing shadows, he did latch on to a through ball after shrugging off a defender and was through on goal but fired directly at the goalie.
Another chance he had down the right he pushed the ball past their defender and then managed to put the ball out of play over the by-line with too heavy a touch, when his strike partner was on his own in the box.
If he'd have managed to play the ball across to him it would have been an easy tap in for 2-0.
I suppose he's got to get used to how Salford want to play, but he didn't pull any trees up for me when he came on.
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Probably has had a crap pre season training alone, so hardly going to be “match sharp” yet..
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Yeah, true IDM!
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Salford looked good. They will be up there
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Awful game. 2 poor sides.
MK had a bright opening 15 mins and then Salford just took the game from them just enough to render them impotent. Glad I don't have to watch either of them too regularly.
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Salford looked good. They will be up there
I was thinking the same with their recent additions. More likely than PV or MK I'm guessing.
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Just scored his first Salford goal - 3 minutes after coming off the bench against Cheltenham
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Accrington game I thought we'd upgraded in Gibson. Amazing what seeing 7 games in total does to your thoughts.....
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A second for Adelakun.
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Always seemed likely he’d sign for another league 2 team and score plenty. Still a real shame how it’s all played out. He’d walk straight back into our side.
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On a 12 month deal. If he does well he will be off again back to League One.
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Always seemed likely he’d sign for another league 2 team and score plenty. Still a real shame how it’s all played out. He’d walk straight back into our side.
I doubt whether our offer would be left on the table. The impression I get of McCann is that it would be “Take it or leave it”. Billy Sharp’s wages had to be found from somewhere!
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He will score more goals than Gibson does for us unless he gets his game right. Adelaken is a strong and more powerful player and like Craig he will be missed this season
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Will he get the boo treatment when he plays against us?
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HK gave us the ‘feel good’ feeling as supporters while he was with us. I thank him for that & wish him nothing but the best for that as we’ve had plenty who have come & gone who didn’t, wherever his career takes him from here on in.
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He will score more goals than Gibson does for us unless he gets his game right. Adelaken is a strong and more powerful player and like Craig he will be missed this season
I don’t think he will,
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Will he get the boo treatment when he plays against us?
Coppinger could have left to play 3 games for someone before retirement and would get booed by some of our brain dead fans
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Booing an ex player is just part of the pantomime of football, I actually think ex players like it as it means they've been remembered or had an impact. Some players will get a good reception whenever they come back (Alfie May), but those that leave after we've showed them support as fans and made a decent financial offer as a club, and that player leaves out of greed and ends up at a worse club I think deserve a good old boo! We're not round his house throwing bricks through his windows, he'll get booed for 90mins, which will probably spur him on to play better and wind us up more (e.g., Emmanuel Adebayor). I'll be booing anyway.
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Reg, does anyone on here know that he was made a decent offer and what it amounted to?
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I thought Grant had been on record saying they'd made Haks an offer? I don't know the pounds and pennies, but my understanding is the club wanted to keep Haks and made efforts to do so.
I'm not really taking a moral or ethical stance, I'm suggesting that a player who was a big part of our team last year and who made the choice to leave us for elsewhere could reasonably be in for some light-hearted booing when he plays against us. It's not vitriolic hatred, but part of the pantomime of the game, in the same way Darren Moore got well deserved pelters when we played Port Vale.
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How the hell is anyone going to know that?
Common sense tells us it's likely to have been a decent offer aligned with the rest of the squad and the players we have signed.
Clearly, and taking into account the deadline, he and or/his agent thought they could do better. At no time did he say when asked, that he was keen to stay. He doesn't strike ne as the kind of player who would come back with his tail between his legs to ask if the offer was still open, given we signed Gibson too.
He snubbed us. We've moved on.
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he was an integral part of that fantastic run but remember that he tailed off towards the end.
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A massive impact during his time with us but left owning probably the worst penalty a player has ever taken for us.
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he was an integral part of that fantastic run but remember that he tailed off towards the end.
It raises questions about his character doesn’t it? In turning down our offer which must have been better than he had to accept from Salford, he may well have continued in the same vein and may have continued to overrate his worth when he looked elsewhere. And as you say, his final games with us were a let-down in terms of both flair and effort. Potential employers would consider all this.
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A massive impact during his time with us but left owning probably the worst penalty a player has ever taken for us.
Martin Woods, "hold my beer"