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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on September 07, 2024, 05:38:13 pm
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First half especially. On a par with back end of last season. Gillingham will be serious promotion contenders, but we made them look a division below us for 55 minutes.
Pressing in groups, creating chances, solid at the back. Feels like something emerging.
And that was as complete a centre back performance from McGrath as you're ever going to see at this level. What a prospect that kid is looking.
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Agreed. Same every week boys and happy times ahead.
Tremendous energy. We look so much fitter than previous years.
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Good result against a team not shy of dishing the rough stuff out
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I thought we were terrible, we sunk to their tactics of lumping it high and long, the goal came from a little bit of football at least. I was pleased to see we have some back bone to stand up to these teams though.
Thank god I do not have to watch the Gills week in week out - what do you take from that style if you lose, it’s depressingly bad, I mean they play one touch hoof ball.
There was one point in the first half and they strung 5-6 passes together and I thought ooh hang on these might be decent - I think they must have had a rollicking at half time about that, they never strung two passes again, it just went hooof.
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Up until 60th minute where I have no idea how we weren’t out of sight I was proud watching us. The players know their positions, they work hard for each other and we just look so well drilled. Not sure GM will touch too much on the last half hour because we did nothing but invite pressure for the majority of it. The back 4 were all contenders for MOTM in my opinion. Don’t like it but will end on a negative…. Kyle Hurst needs to be shipped out. Just a boy playing men’s football. A speedboat with no driver and makes the wrong decision every time he has the ball. If I’m Yeaboah I’m not a happy bunny. Anyway, massive 3pts against a very physical side.
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Agreed about hurst, all the ability but looks like he has the heart of a pea - he is very young though, and the talent he has may just be enough to keep him, in the hope he finds the confidence to not run away from any tackle.
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I thought we were terrible, we sunk to their tactics of lumping it high and long, the goal came from a little bit of football at least. I was pleased to see we have some back bone to stand up to these teams though.
Thank god I do not have to watch the Gills week in week out - what do you take from that style if you lose, it’s depressingly bad, I mean they play one touch hoof ball.
There was one point in the first half and they strung 5-6 passes together and I thought ooh hang on these might be decent - I think they must have had a rollicking at half time about that, they never strung two passes again, it just went hooof.
Are u mad?
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Are you saying you enjoyed it and would like to watch it week in and out?
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Kyle Hurst is the only player in this squad going backwards. Looks a bag of nerves every time he plays. It's a really odd sub to make especially with the other options on the bench when 1v0 up.
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I thought we were terrible, we sunk to their tactics of lumping it high and long, the goal came from a little bit of football at least. I was pleased to see we have some back bone to stand up to these teams though.
Thank god I do not have to watch the Gills week in week out - what do you take from that style if you lose, it’s depressingly bad, I mean they play one touch hoof ball.
There was one point in the first half and they strung 5-6 passes together and I thought ooh hang on these might be decent - I think they must have had a rollicking at half time about that, they never strung two passes again, it just went hooof.
Are u mad?
An outrageous comment from JMT23. Go and get your head examined fella!
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I thought we were very good first half but lost our way a bit in the second.
Didnt think we really looked like conceding though. Big 3 points that.
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Kyle Hurst is the only player in this squad going backwards. Looks a bag of nerves every time he plays. It's a really odd sub to make especially with the other options on the bench when 1v0 up.
I didn’t think it’s an odd sub as I thought Gibson was really poor. Unbelievably though Hurst was even worse!
Didn’t enjoy the second half, thought we were poor.
First half good, not brilliant but good.
Also thought Gills weren’t very good, did TSL have a save to make? Cheating bas**rds too especially the lump at the back with pig tails.
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Don’t get me wrong I love the fact we won and stood up to them, I just got frustrated we fell into lumping it for the 30 mins, it’s not our game, and only played into theirs - and had my nerves in tatters.
It’s ok to have a different view right? That style of hoof ball is not for me, I am unsure what I’d do if we started playing that. 3 points though and we move on.
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Kyle Hurst is the only player in this squad going backwards. Looks a bag of nerves every time he plays. It's a really odd sub to make especially with the other options on the bench when 1v0 up.
I didn’t think it’s an odd sub as I thought Gibson was really poor. Unbelievably though Hurst was even worse!
Didn’t enjoy the second half, thought we were poor.
First half good, not brilliant but good.
Also thought Gills weren’t very good, did TSL have a save to make? Cheating bas**rds too especially the lump at the back with pig tails.
I can’t ever recall seeing a male footballer with 2 pigtails. I’m sure that Ironside was using them as handlebars for the last 10 minutes.
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First half was excellent. They are serious promotion contenders and I can't remember them having a touch in our box. We were on it all over the pitch. Not sure what folk who didn't rate that expect us to do.
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Don’t get me wrong I love the fact we won and stood up to them, I just got frustrated we fell into lumping it for the 30 mins, it’s not our game, and only played into theirs - and had my nerves in tatters.
It’s ok to have a different view right? That style of hoof ball is not for me, I am unsure what I’d do if we started playing that. 3 points though and we move on.
There is nothing wrong with having different views, but your opening comment is polar opposite to what 99% saw with there own eyes. You either don't have a full understanding of the game yet or you can't manage your emotions and then feel the need to react with outlandish drivel. Sorry, if that sounds quite cutting, I'm not wanting to offend you but you need calling out for your opening comment.
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I disagree, but there we go. I have the opinion that some only see the result not the game, and can’t see past it. Wonder what the thoughts on here would be if we drew or lost.
If you loved today’s game and would like to watch that week in week out, we have very different views on what we call great.
I feel my understanding of the game is good ta.
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Excellent first half, could easily have been 3 up. Bsttled well second half and had the best chance through Bailey. Despite them trying to launch everthing forrard the excellent McGrath and Anderson dealt with it, leaving our keeper to have an easy game.
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Excellent first half, could easily have been 3 up. Bsttled well second half and had the best chance through Bailey. Despite them trying to launch everthing forrard the excellent McGrath and Anderson dealt with it, leaving our keeper to have an easy game.
So in summary for those who haven't got a grip of life on planet earth.....just terrible!!
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Did I see some fisticuffs on the pitch at FT.
Looked like McCann was having words with Nevitt as they were walking away.
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I disagree, but there we go. I have the opinion that some only see the result not the game, and can’t see past it. Wonder what the thoughts on here would be if we drew or lost.
If you loved today’s game and would like to watch that week in week out, we have very different views on what we call great.
I feel my understanding of the game is good ta.
The way I see it is that this was an early top of the table clash where it was going to be cagey and not pleasing on the eye.
The reason I'm chuffed to bits is that we didn't get bullied and for 60 minutes we were slightly the better side.
Last season would have been a 4 nil defeat so again, happy to see the obvious progression.
When this team finds its full playing form, some teams are going to be on the end of an absolute mauling.
No I wouldn't want to watch that every week, but we aren't are we.
Swings and roundabouts.
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Eeerrrr, if you asked the nation, ‘Would you like to watch 4th Division football?’
Most would say ‘no thanks’.
So, be realistic yeah, and yet again I’m sat here wondering how we haven’t scored at least 3 or 4
So no I don’t mind watching it.
Our keeper didn’t have a shot to save, only a couple of awkward crosses with a couple of lump CF’s on his toes.
Gibson went close
Sharp should have scored with a free header
Molly chipped a volley just over the bar
Molly hit the bar
Keepers made 2 point blank saves
A fair few other close moments too.
And a clean sheet
Verses the top of the league side
That’s Division 4 folks.
Oh yes, and Doncaster Rovers are top of the league, bty.
So if you can’t take some enjoyment out of that,
Get yersen some drugs or go and support Man City.
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We made them look poor. They are a good, extremely well organised side. Yes, we ran out of steam 2nd half but we're well worth the win. Make no mistake that's a title winning team's performance.
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Exactly Nudga, a good balanced view of what we had. Thank god I’m not a Gills fan, who may have to watch that every week.
Grant has always had teams that can mix it up, I just feel we didn’t mix it up, we followed them and made hard work of what could have been easier. Not sure either keeper had a save though to my mind.
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Given the opponents I thought Rovers played very well first half and early second half.
Gillingham were organised, disciplined, hard but lacking in quality in attack. They look like a team that are not going to concede many goals or get beat very often.
Rovers stood up to their physicality, were the better team and created some good chances.
The only complaint could be not being clinical enough and therefore not killing Gillingham off.
Last 25-30 minutes Rovers went off the boil, not helped by a poor referee who I feel took personal umbrage at the fans getting on his back re the bailey tackle and lost his neutrality, but defended excellently.
Rovers keeper didn't have a shot to save against the team top of the league this morning.
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First half especially. On a par with back end of last season. Gillingham will be serious promotion contenders, but we made them look a division below us for 55 minutes.
Pressing in groups, creating chances, solid at the back. Feels like something emerging.
And that was as complete a centre back performance from McGrath as you're ever going to see at this level. What a prospect that kid is looking.
Sorry, stopped respecting your opinion when you said Mathew Craig was better than pele.
This has cemented it, given how you've now gone a complete 360, from slating the performance as 'worryingly bad ' to full of gushing praise in the space of a couple of weeks.
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Don’t get me wrong I love the fact we won and stood up to them, I just got frustrated we fell into lumping it for the 30 mins, it’s not our game, and only played into theirs - and had my nerves in tatters.
It’s ok to have a different view right? That style of hoof ball is not for me, I am unsure what I’d do if we started playing that. 3 points though and we move on.
It's the nature of the game that you'll resort to some desperate measures when you're hanging on for a win against a good team who were top of the league. There was a few scrappy moments and misplaced passes but the work rate was very impressive. Could be a very important win come the end of the season.
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Exactly Nudga, a good balanced view of what we had. Thank god I’m not a Gills fan, who may have to watch that every week.
Grant has always had teams that can mix it up, I just feel we didn’t mix it up, we followed them and made hard work of what could have been easier. Not sure either keeper had a save though to my mind.
Their keeper made two point blank 1-on-1 saves from Gibson and Bailey. He didn't save the goal from Sharp.
That's three saves he needed to make straight off the top of my head.
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I thought we were terrible, we sunk to their tactics of lumping it high and long, the goal came from a little bit of football at least. I was pleased to see we have some back bone to stand up to these teams though.
Thank god I do not have to watch the Gills week in week out - what do you take from that style if you lose, it’s depressingly bad, I mean they play one touch hoof ball.
There was one point in the first half and they strung 5-6 passes together and I thought ooh hang on these might be decent - I think they must have had a rollicking at half time about that, they never strung two passes again, it just went hooof.
Not sure what you were watching but I thought they moved it quite nicely through midfield at times. The right side linked up well, in particular. Their problem is no cutting edge. At all. Teddy won't have many days easier than that.
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There are many ways to win a game and we did what we had to do in the second half to ensure that we did win.
First half, we were far and away the better side but we expected Gillingham to up their game after the break and that is what happened.
We defended well enough to give TSL a fairly easy afternoon and I’m sure he didn’t actually have to save an attempt on goal.
Even at this stage of the season today was a massive win.
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Kyle Hurst is the only player in this squad going backwards. Looks a bag of nerves every time he plays. It's a really odd sub to make especially with the other options on the bench when 1v0 up.
I didn’t think it’s an odd sub as I thought Gibson was really poor. Unbelievably though Hurst was even worse!
Didn’t enjoy the second half, thought we were poor.
First half good, not brilliant but good.
Also thought Gills weren’t very good, did TSL have a save to make? Cheating bas**rds too especially the lump at the back with pig tails.
Hurst got 10 minutes. Barely time to get into the pace of the game, and they kept doubling up on him. The Gills were clearly well versed in our wide threat and made sure they got extra cover across all afternoon.
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I will respect all your opinions, and did expect some to disagree, I personally wouldn’t want to see us play like that too many times - I will enjoy my beers with the 3 points though. :rtid:
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We were great without the ball today. Very organised and defended well. Didn’t think we were as good with the ball as we can be but positive that we can beat Gills and Vale last week without getting out of third gear.
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Gillingham look like a tough team to beat and also had some class players on the bench to bring on. Reckon they will be up there at the end of the season.
The only disappointment for us was that we didn't bury them in the first half, making for an uncomfortable final 20 minutes.
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Good result against a team and style of play we have often struggled with in the past. Even in the last 20 minutes when they were on top they never really looked like scoring. We seemed to stop playing when ironside came on and looked for him to win flick ons which wasn't coming off and we gave up possession easily. Also felt Clifton should have done better on the ball in the second half, few loose touches which again gave the ball away cheaply but all in a solid performance if not sparkling
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I thought we would look back on those missed chances and felt the game was going away from us at the back end of the second half. But, we somehow found a way to stem their bit of a go.
Young McGrath certainly came of age in that game (I counted one header he missed all game). What a well deserved motm award. Now comes the hard part - staying consistent.
The only thing that concerned me was how we seemed to get slightly worse after GM started making his subs. Not particularly Ironside, as he gave their cb a torrid time, but no other sub really impacted the game. We just seemed to lose a bit of control, particularly in the middle of the park. I’m sure GM will be looking at that. His presser after the game seemed to suggest he wasn’t happy how we dropped off a bit.
And finally, where the hell do they dig up these officials from? The ref was their motm, closely followed by Mr Can’tmakeadecision on the West stand side! Awful.
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McGrath has the potential to be as good as Matt Mills. He’s got every attribute. Brilliant performance
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Did I see some fisticuffs on the pitch at FT.
Looked like McCann was having words with Nevitt as they were walking away.
Didn't see it but Gills 22 was a total tw*t
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Gillingham always seem to come here with a game plan that involves plenty of niggle and physicality to stop us playing. The way the ref controlled the game allowed that type of play to persist and it had a big bearing on the match. He never allowed us the leeway they seemed to get with their niggling fouls and holding, not surprisingly when we tried to fight fire with fire we got called for it.
We had the chances to close the match out in the first half but didn't, we battled hard and managed to close down their most controlled passages of play. The defence was very commanding with good strong performances from them all, McGrath looks to be making the place his own and gets better with each match, thought Flemming was quietly effective in both defence and attack, some better control and poise from Gibson would have had us out of sight.
They came out more determined second half and with all the covering and harrying we had completed including pressing them often we eventually started to tire, this coincided with their best period of play, that we managed to control them without drama is great credit to out defence and midfield, all three had effective games, Clifton again a stand out with his speed of thought movement and tackle, the amount of pitch he covered must of been massive.
The last twenty we allowed them to come onto us, we controlled it well and they never really looked like breaking through, even when Roberts came on , in the past we would yield to this type of onslaught but we managed it very comfortably.
Very good and deserved win against a side who will be there or there about's all season.
Oh, and i would not mind watching us play that way against all the better teams in this division, we made them look very ordinary, something that all the teams they have played so far have struggled to achieve.
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For anybody thinking this was an evenly matched or scrappy game I would happily invite you to watch that first 60 minutes again. I am confident you have judged the game badly. In the whole game we restricted them to nothing. In said 60 minutes the game should have been over to the point where it was a 0-1 win for them. After that we handled the game quite poorly although we worked our socks off, defended resolutely and were easily worthy winners
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Exactly Nudga, a good balanced view of what we had. Thank god I’m not a Gills fan, who may have to watch that every week.
Grant has always had teams that can mix it up, I just feel we didn’t mix it up, we followed them and made hard work of what could have been easier. Not sure either keeper had a save though to my mind.
Their keeper made two point blank 1-on-1 saves from Gibson and Bailey. He didn't save the goal from Sharp.
That's three saves he needed to make straight off the top of my head.
Their keeper kept them in the game with excellent saves in both halves.
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First half especially. On a par with back end of last season. Gillingham will be serious promotion contenders, but we made them look a division below us for 55 minutes.
Pressing in groups, creating chances, solid at the back. Feels like something emerging.
And that was as complete a centre back performance from McGrath as you're ever going to see at this level. What a prospect that kid is looking.
Sorry, stopped respecting your opinion when you said Mathew Craig was better than pele.
This has cemented it, given how you've now gone a complete 360, from slating the performance as 'worryingly bad ' to full of gushing praise in the space of a couple of weeks.
And that’s a problem because..?
Progress. It’s a beautiful thing.
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First half especially. On a par with back end of last season. Gillingham will be serious promotion contenders, but we made them look a division below us for 55 minutes.
Pressing in groups, creating chances, solid at the back. Feels like something emerging.
And that was as complete a centre back performance from McGrath as you're ever going to see at this level. What a prospect that kid is looking.
Sorry, stopped respecting your opinion when you said Mathew Craig was better than pele.
This has cemented it, given how you've now gone a complete 360, from slating the performance as 'worryingly bad ' to full of gushing praise in the space of a couple of weeks.
You mean 180 of course, right?
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Nevitt - the w**ker from Crewe who wrestled one of our lads to the ground off the ball in the playoff second leg. He’s got a screw loose that lad. Booked within 10 minutes of coming on for a petulant trip on Tom and lucky not to see red after manhandling Teddy.
Lovely seeing him on the losing team.
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I disagree, but there we go. I have the opinion that some only see the result not the game, and can’t see past it. Wonder what the thoughts on here would be if we drew or lost.
If you loved today’s game and would like to watch that week in week out, we have very different views on what we call great.
I feel my understanding of the game is good ta.
The way I see it is that this was an early top of the table clash where it was going to be cagey and not pleasing on the eye.
The reason I'm chuffed to bits is that we didn't get bullied and for 60 minutes we were slightly the better side.
Last season would have been a 4 nil defeat so again, happy to see the obvious progression.
When this team finds its full playing form, some teams are going to be on the end of an absolute mauling.
No I wouldn't want to watch that every week, but we aren't are we.
Swings and roundabouts.
100%.
We all love Moly, Gibson, Hurst going at them with free flowing sparkling football and we do get to see that a lot.
Our achilles has been the big, rough team who bully us.
Today we stood up and went toe to toe with a huge team and deserved the three points - they are a very will drilled hardworking team who wont be far away at the end.
Not pretty but we move on as top of the league.
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Nevitt - the w**ker from Crewe who wrestled one of our lads to the ground off the ball in the playoff second leg. He’s got a screw loose that lad. Booked within 10 minutes of coming on for a petulant trip on Tom and lucky not to see red after manhandling Teddy.
Lovely seeing him on the losing team.
He tries to make up for his lack of footballing ability by trying to be an intimidating big man. And he’s pretty average at that as well.
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Nevitt - the w**ker from Crewe who wrestled one of our lads to the ground off the ball in the playoff second leg. He’s got a screw loose that lad. Booked within 10 minutes of coming on for a petulant trip on Tom and lucky not to see red after manhandling Teddy.
Lovely seeing him on the losing team.
He tries to make up for his lack of footballing ability by trying to be an intimidating big man. And he’s pretty average at that as well.
He was giving it large to McGrath at the end of the game. If I was Jay I would have just put the 1-0 sign in his face.
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We were great without the ball today. Very organised and defended well. Didn’t think we were as good with the ball as we can be but positive that we can beat Gills and Vale last week without getting out of third gear.
Thought we were sloppy in possession at times but agree we were excellent without the ball. Overall a deserved win with lots of positives but also things to improve on. McGrath looks a prospect , he set the benchmark yesterday & if he maintains that level of performance there will be some interest from higher up.
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Interesting detail from yesterday, and I don’t know if it was by design or not. Gills are a better team when they are up against a possession side so they can press and counter. They had “too much” possession to get the best out of themselves yesterday. Did we set up to let them have a good share of the ball or was that just the way the game played out? Not sure. It contributed to us winning though.
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I kind of agree with both sides on this- we clearly deserved the win imo but this team is capable of playing much better football than yesterday and that’s the really exciting thing for me.
We need to give Kyle whatever McGrath drank before the Everton game- since then he has been a giant.
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First half especially. On a par with back end of last season. Gillingham will be serious promotion contenders, but we made them look a division below us for 55 minutes.
Pressing in groups, creating chances, solid at the back. Feels like something emerging.
And that was as complete a centre back performance from McGrath as you're ever going to see at this level. What a prospect that kid is looking.
Sorry, stopped respecting your opinion when you said Mathew Craig was better than pele.
This has cemented it, given how you've now gone a complete 360, from slating the performance as 'worryingly bad ' to full of gushing praise in the space of a couple of weeks.
If you don't respect my opinion, I know I'm on the money.
Thanks again.
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Nevitt - the w**ker from Crewe who wrestled one of our lads to the ground off the ball in the playoff second leg. He’s got a screw loose that lad. Booked within 10 minutes of coming on for a petulant trip on Tom and lucky not to see red after manhandling Teddy.
Lovely seeing him on the losing team.
He tries to make up for his lack of footballing ability by trying to be an intimidating big man. And he’s pretty average at that as well.
He was giving it large to McGrath at the end of the game. If I was Jay I would have just put the 1-0 sign in his face.
Was that why Grant sort of chased Nevitt off
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Excellent win again, but should have been a much more comfortable win. Really dug in & deserved the win. Only criticism is we really need to learn to look after the ball better when coming under pressure, give it away cheaply far too easily & inviting teams onto us. Great win.
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Excellent win again, but should have been a much more comfortable win. Really dug in & deserved the win. Only criticism is we really need to learn to look after the ball better when coming under pressure, give it away cheaply far too easily & inviting teams onto us. Great win.
Good point well made.
We are now, much more robust as a team when it gets to that stage, in the past we would of been floundering towards the end and giving goals away. This team have the strength of their convictions to withstand this type of onslaught and also know they can hold it together as yesterday and prevail.
For all Gillingham's menace and bluster at the end TSL barely had to break sweat, we handled it very professionally.
Even if it was a bit more than we as fans wanted to see, sign of a side at ease with themselves and know what they need to do. Futures bright.