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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on September 21, 2024, 05:42:46 pm
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It is back to the EFL trophy game on Tuesday evening against Manchester United u21s even though it is against their u21s team they can if they want to play some over age players.
Probably the only competition they can win if they come up against the better sides in the Premiership in the big competitions unless they have help from VAR as against Coventry last season, Will they?
So an attractive game one we replicated a couple of seasons ago, and that night they looked a match for anything we had even as a young side and a good interesting watch.
Lets hope we get a few extra down to watch the game attracted by the name rather than the team.
Our line up will be interesting if only because especially the first half we were very poor all over the pitch today, and we have a big squad, some who will want to play for game time to push their cause forward.
The Manchester side no doubt will be full of good technical players some of whom will be some of the best players in the world in their age group, and will want to show case their ability to us the supporters and especially our players.
If we win the game it could well see us safely through to the next round and create a bit of interest, and at the same time improve interest in the competition, and make us a little money hopefully.
The last two games we have been a shadow of the side last season and the first few games this season and need to get back on it again quickly, mainly in midfield.
A lot in the game of interest for both sides for different reasons. Manchester United looking for and hoping they have the next boy wonder in their ranks, us can we have a cup run, take a big scalp even though it is the youth team, and create interest and a good night out for the supporters.
Lot's to talk about, team selection especially, and playing Barnsley away in the last group games a win would be nice, What do you think? Please have your say.
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Would start Lawlor, Kelly, Hurst, Yeboah, Olowu and Sharp. Beyond that rest of first team. Molyneux has been beaten up last two games. Don’t have him anywhere near this game.
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I'd start Sbarra. He was excellent when he came on today, and pinged a brilliant corner for Tom's goal.
Give him a chance to claim a place for next Saturday.
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Brian we were playing with 10 men for 35 mins + in the 1st half yesterday. So to say we played very poorly is imo not correct.
The objective was to keep the opposition from scoring.
It was obvious we would have minimal possession against a team that likes to keep the ball 11v 11 so a man down we will see very little of the ball.
Unfortunately we conceded 1 goal but to say we were very poor is more than harsh.
A few fresh legs on Tuesday I suspect.
Starts for Lawlor, Emmanuel, Broadbent, Sbarra, Hurst, Yeboah, Sharp
& Westbrooke if fit I suspect. Also Clifton may start as will be suspended foe the Chesterfield game.
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"Manchester United looking for and hoping they have the next boy wonder in their ranks"
Is Tommy Rowe likely to be chaperoning their U21s? Not sure we could put him in that class but I'm sure he'll get a warm welcome.
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This should be used to get the midfield three playing better before we play Chesterfield. Kelly to start with Bailey and Close playing in a more forward position. Gibson is not producing his best therefore does he play or put Hurst to see if he can produce his best which as declined since preseason.
Emmanuel at RB Olowu and McGrath and hopefully Maxwell or Senior at LB. We can’t take this game lightly as they beat Barnsley young side.
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Maxwell isn’t going to be playing against Chesterfield.
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Paul you can gloss it over and look at the game through rose tinted glasses all you want, we were lucky not to turn around at half time three goals down as they were poor up front as we were in mid field and the back
Their goal came when our full back showed their player down the line and was outpaced easily, the cross coming in with no cover and again men goal side in front of goal in front of their markers.
We lack pace at the back across the line, the last two goals coming with a player carrying the ball outpacing our defenders and in the first half our midfield never got near the ball, or kept it, or created anything.
It was a good come back after changes, a point, and unlucky not to be three, and emphasised how poor we started the game.
The way MK are playing they are powder puff up front and not the side they have been in the past.
If we start like that against Manchester United even the u21s there is a chance they will rip us to pieces with their pace like Rotherham did a few years ago.
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Ironside yet to have a shot on target in the league across his seven appearances this season.
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Wonder if Clifton will play with his minimal minutes at the weekend and not playing Saturday
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Wonder if Clifton will play with his minimal minutes at the weekend and not playing Saturday
I thought he’d be suspended for tomorrow night with it being an EFL competition.
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Wonder if Clifton will play with his minimal minutes at the weekend and not playing Saturday
I thought he’d be suspended for tomorrow night with it being an EFL competition.
If he is, Iv got that completely wrong!
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There’s a big place up for grabs, Gibson, Yebaoh or Hurst, one of these three need to start performing and making some much better decisions, of the three Hurst has had the least opportunity, I hope he starts and shines.
Sbarra needs a start, time he came out and showed us what a good player he is, (and he is).
Olowu, McGrath, perfect opportunity to see them working things out together.
Lawler, a good performance could overtake TSL.
Go again with Joe I, rest Molly, Sterry. Close needs to work hard so he can stay in there and start showing some stamina and precision. Rest Bailey.
Winning breeds a winning culture so really want a positive result..
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For me Clifton should play as he only got 10 minutes on Saturday. Plus he’ll be missing at the weekend.
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Ironside yet to have a shot on target in the league across his seven appearances this season.
That's quite alarming. Maybe he'd benefit from Hurst and Sbarra in support, who are likely to be less 'single minded' than Gibson and Moly (although Moly has got crosses in, but more hopeful percentage crosses rather than picking Joe out)
We can't have a 20 plus goal striker, twiddling his thumbs in the box.
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Ironside yet to have a shot on target in the league across his seven appearances this season.
That's quite alarming. Maybe he'd benefit from Hurst and Sbarra in support, who are likely to be less 'single minded' than Gibson and Moly (although Moly has got crosses in, but more hopeful percentage crosses rather than picking Joe out)
We can't have a 20 plus goal striker, twiddling his thumbs in the box.
It might help if he didn't play with his back to goal so much.
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Ironside yet to have a shot on target in the league across his seven appearances this season.
That's quite alarming. Maybe he'd benefit from Hurst and Sbarra in support, who are likely to be less 'single minded' than Gibson and Moly (although Moly has got crosses in, but more hopeful percentage crosses rather than picking Joe out)
We can't have a 20 plus goal striker, twiddling his thumbs in the box.
It might help if he didn't play with his back to goal so much.
20 league goals last season, he hasn’t suddenly changed how he plays.
What has changed is that no one is crossing to him. He’s one of the best strikers in the air in the division. It’s a waste.
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OK, hear me out. Joe is one of my favourites but I'd like to see him play on the half turn a bit more , especially around the 18 yard area and get some shots off.
So rather than shielding the ball with his back to goal and waiting for contact for fouls, play on the half turn, spin the defender and get a thunder bas**rd shot off.
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Nudja, with all due respect McCaan knows what he’s going to get with Joe given he was one of his first signings to the club.
Joe’s thirty, he knows his strengths & by now the players around him should know them too.
Which other forward player do we have that can shield the ball & hold it up long enough to lay off to players going into forward position’s & thereby enable an attack to keep or gather momentum?
Joe will score double figures this season. Maybe not 24, but close enough to that figure to gain us promotion this season.
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Fantastic target man, should be played in front two in my opinion.
4-2-3-1 is fashionable isn't it so it's not going to happen.
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We seem to have done well when going to 3-5-2 when the preverbal has hit the fan, maybe try it a bit more often and before its the last resort, i'd say that we now have the personnel to work that system?
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Don’t want to see 5 defenders on the pitch unless it’s forced on us. If we’re desperate to put 2 forwards on then what’s wrong with 442!
We’ve loads of depth so I’m happy he rings the changes. Clifton should play if he’s not banned. I’d be tempted to play Ironside to try get some form and if he does we’ll start him the next league game too. Hurst has to start and if he does we’ll be given the chance in the league to start.
Like to see a good 30min run out for Sam Brown if the game alllows too.
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I know a lot don’t like this competition and will say to put the kids out but McCann wants to win this competition and winning this game is important as it would send us through and the last group game against Barnsley is in the middle of 2 massive league games against Bradford (A) and Notts County (H) so win tomorrow and we don’t need to worry about the barnsley game and can focus fully on the 2 league games either side of it. Massive benefit for us tho in this cup that we have a very strong squad so can rotate without harming the quality of the side too much.
Pretty sure Clifton can play in this competition and his ban will be on Saturday against Chesterfield. Think we will also see the likes of Lawlor, Emmanuel, Senior, Yeboah, Hurst and Broadbent and then maybe another cameo from Sam Brown.
Lawlor
Emmanuel Olowu McGrath Senior
Broadbent Kelly Sbarra
Yeboah Ironside Hurst
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I thought that this game would be on Sky+ but after checking, it isn’t showing up as a scheduled match.
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I thought that this game would be on Sky+ but after checking, it isn’t showing up as a scheduled match.
It is there, all the bsm trophy games are listed as being shown.
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Do we have to play x number of players who played against MKD
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I thought that this game would be on Sky+ but after checking, it isn’t showing up as a scheduled match.
It is there, all the bsm trophy games are listed as being shown.
Ah, my bad, found it now.
My wife says there are two things she doesn’t like about me.
First that I don’t listen to her and ……. I can’t remember what the other thing was.
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Should be an interesting game to watch , with a bit at stake for both sides to progress,
My thoughts are that one of these premiership clubs will one season go out to win this competition, and manure could be that club, as they are desperate to be relevant once again and not be the mid table also runs they look to be heading for every season.
Chelsea I thought might do it a few seasons ago and got to the late stages a couple of seasons, and it is not to be forgotten how the FA and EFL would also like them to do well, and the advantage they have , or seem to have with officials who are fans, well they act like it., or are star struck, or just one way incompetent.
We need to just go for it, and look to do well in the competition.
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Should be an interesting game to watch , with a bit at stake for both sides to progress,
My thoughts are that one of these premiership clubs will one season go out to win this competition, and manure could be that club, as they are desperate to be relevant once again and not be the mid table also runs they look to be heading for every season.
Chelsea I thought might do it a few seasons ago and got to the late stages a couple of seasons, and it is not to be forgotten how the FA and EFL would also like them to do well, and the advantage they have , or seem to have with officials who are fans, well they act like it., or are star struck, or just one way incompetent.
We need to just go for it, and look to do well in the competition.
Man Utd have been struggling for years but they won the FA Cup last season and the League Cup the season before. Winning the EFL Trophy is not going to make them "relevant once again" :lol: :lol:
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Brilliant interview with Joe Olowu previewing the game.
https://youtu.be/wHHgKyq_7C0?si=PtP7-0rL0YxsFFiK
I think with our squad depth we can win this competition.
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The big irony of PL U21 sides is that if we could get one of these lads on loan we would expect great things of him - the Craig/Harry Kane/Ramsey effect. Put a team of them together and you might expect them to just sail past L1 and L2 sides!
Why don't they?
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The big irony of PL U21 sides is that if we could get one of these lads on loan we would expect great things of him - the Craig/Harry Kane/Ramsey effect. Put a team of them together and you might expect them to just sail past L1 and L2 sides!
Why don't they?
Most will never make it above L1 level
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The big irony of PL U21 sides is that if we could get one of these lads on loan we would expect great things of him - the Craig/Harry Kane/Ramsey effect. Put a team of them together and you might expect them to just sail past L1 and L2 sides!
Why don't they?
Because we have Joseph Olowu, who was a prominent member of Arsenal U21s. There's lots of u21s from top teams who don't make the transition from their u21s to their senior teams for various reasons and find themselves looking for new employers, with some willing to drop down the leagues before rising again. There's others like boy wonder John Bostock who took the wrong step at the wrong time. Some I guess, just can't handle the demands and pressure at the top.
Then there's Tommy Rowe who's gone full circle, ending up right where he started.
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The big irony of PL U21 sides is that if we could get one of these lads on loan we would expect great things of him - the Craig/Harry Kane/Ramsey effect. Put a team of them together and you might expect them to just sail past L1 and L2 sides!
Why don't they?
Because for every Matty Craig and Herbie Kane there’s a Mipo Odubeko and Aidan Barlow
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I thought that this game would be on Sky+ but after checking, it isn’t showing up as a scheduled match.
It is there, all the bsm trophy games are listed as being shown.
Ah, my bad, found it now.
My wife says there are two things she doesn’t like about me.
First that I don’t listen to her and ……. I can’t remember what the other thing was.
On the subject, mate, you were looking for a stream for the MK game. Did you find one?
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The big irony of PL U21 sides is that if we could get one of these lads on loan we would expect great things of him - the Craig/Harry Kane/Ramsey effect. Put a team of them together and you might expect them to just sail past L1 and L2 sides!
Why don't they?
Because we have Joseph Olowu, who was a prominent member of Arsenal U21s. There's lots of u21s from top teams who don't make the transition from their u21s to their senior teams for various reasons and find themselves looking for new employers, with some willing to drop down the leagues before rising again. There's others like boy wonder John Bostock who took the wrong step at the wrong time. Some I guess, just can't handle the demands and pressure at the top.
Then there's Tommy Rowe who's gone full circle, ending up right where he started.
I suppose that I am out of touch with the quality of loanees who do make a difference at Championship level which is perhaps the key to potential. Certainly some who shine in L1 and L2 do make careers in the second tier and some (like Ramsey) do so in the PL. I assumed that there would be enough U21s etc., at most PL clubs to make up 3 or 4 teams at each junior age level, so the ones who were first choices and playing in this Cup would be good quality with real futures.
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I thought that this game would be on Sky+ but after checking, it isn’t showing up as a scheduled match.
It is there, all the bsm trophy games are listed as being shown.
Ah, my bad, found it now.
My wife says there are two things she doesn’t like about me.
First that I don’t listen to her and ……. I can’t remember what the other thing was.
On the subject, mate, you were looking for a stream for the MK game. Did you find one?
No SS, I didn’t. I ended up listening to the Radio Sheffield commentary.
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The big irony of PL U21 sides is that if we could get one of these lads on loan we would expect great things of him - the Craig/Harry Kane/Ramsey effect. Put a team of them together and you might expect them to just sail past L1 and L2 sides!
Why don't they?
Most will never make it above L1 level
Harry Kane managed to be better than L1 level.
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We’re strong favourites with the bookies for this one Rovers 11/20 Man U 16/5.
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Tommy Rowe starting for Man Utd
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Ironside getting splinters again.
Debuts for Kasper Williams and Emmanuel. Good luck Kasper.
Expected midfield with Kelly, Broadbent and Sbarra. Bill, Yeboah and Hurst make up the forward line. Olowu guiding young Kasper at the back with Senior & Emmanuel making up the back line.
Strong bench.
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Tommy Rowe starting for Man Utd
Been a while since he was under 21! Makes a complete mockery of the whole inclusion of PL under 21 teams!! :boxing:
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Commentary on sky sports + is for Exeter v spurs!
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Jesus this new sky product is absolutely ridiculous
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Sky really are crap. Looks like the sound will have to go off.
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Mental, sound is obviously from the ground but wrong comms, this is gonna be tough to bear.
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Kept logging off and back in the game still spurs
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It's on
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Sorted it seems, thank god for that.
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Food service speed is horrendous!!!!
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1-0 down after 11 minutes! :facepalm:
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1-0 down after 11 minutes! :facepalm:
Lawlor watched it go in with no attempt at a save.
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Is sky sports + working for others? Not working for me.
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Ok for me.
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1-1
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First goal for Sbarra? Hope there will be a few more.
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The Sky commentator is fawning over Man U.
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Does anyone else’s picture keep going blurred.
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First goal for Sbarra? Hope there will be a few more.
Big deflection
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Where did Williams come from?
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I think we shaded the first half...
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Half time: 1-1
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Is the sky commentator provided by Man Utd. He hasn’t a clue.
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Where did Williams come from?
Our youth team
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Once again better after going behind doing well against the pace of the youngsters of Man U.
Think we need at least 2 more if we are going to win this, Lawlor done well at coming out of the goal to deal with lose ball, corners for us have been better
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Is the sky commentator provided by Man Utd. He hasn’t a clue.
He is making me feel sick. Is it just me? Everything is about Man U and their players. Just watched a lovely passing passage of play by Rovers and he says it’s scrappy! Tried listening to Liam Holden but it’s a couple of seconds ahead of Sky.
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Can someone explain to me how Tommy Rowe is playing in a under21 team plz ?
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Can someone explain to me how Tommy Rowe is playing in a under21 team plz ?
They are allowed I think 2 over age players, and he is their coach
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Am impressed with Josh Emmanuel
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Thanks scooter.
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Can someone explain to me how Tommy Rowe is playing in a under21 team plz ?
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=291773.0
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Am impressed with Josh Emmanuel
He's been strong going forward but lost his man for the goal I thought, Sterry would have been slaughtered for it.
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2-1 :thumbsup:
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Great flick & shot by Billy there.
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Commentary about 5 secs behind the actual action
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Broadbent's been tidy tonight.
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Is the sky commentator provided by Man Utd. He hasn’t a clue.
He is making me feel sick. Is it just me? Everything is about Man U and their players. Just watched a lovely passing passage of play by Rovers and he says it’s scrappy! Tried listening to Liam Holden but it’s a couple of seconds ahead of Sky.
Maybe the Sky commentator feeling a bit sick now?
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Am impressed with Josh Emmanuel
Agreed. Looks really strong. Quick. Won some really good battles high up the pitch too.
Some might argue he lets the guy inside too easily for their goal but overall I think it’s been a really solid performance. Would like to see some more of him.
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Three players on yellows all subbed - Ironside, Molyneux and McGrath on for Sharp, Hurst and Williams
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Where did Williams come from?
Our youth team
Williams will be happy with his performance tonight, he has done really well.
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from the Manchester Evening News live blog
20:14
Steven Railston
55' - DON 2-1 MUN - Doncaster on top
The home side have seized control of this contest after a really bright start from United.
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Missed that goal due to stupid replays
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Now 3-1 Broadbent after Man U error - and Sky missed the whole thing :facepalm:
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Terrific finish by Broadbent.
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Now 3-1 Broadbent after Man U error - and Sky missed the whole thing :facepalm:
They soon showed the replay of it though.
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Producer needs sacking on this picking a highlight but missed the 3rd
Great finish though.
Good work out for the lads. Think Williams did well hopefully see him in some more games maybe get young Sam on soon
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SSB now on for Sbarra, and Gibson for Yeboah
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And just like that
18th birthday today too
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Producer needs sacking on this picking a highlight but missed the 3rd
Great finish though.
Good work out for the lads. Think Williams did well hopefully see him in some more games maybe get young Sam on soon
Too busy on his mobile phone,probably texting friends or knocking one off.
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Really stupid error playing out from the back - 3-2
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Sky commentary loving the man u goal
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Who was it who lost the ball for their goal?
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Kelly
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Bit like their keeper. Hopefully you learn from things like that
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To win is important against anybody. We need to get into that habit. The team is a work in progress.
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Are we really worthy of 4 yellow cards or is ref over protecting their young starlets?
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Are we really worthy of 4 yellow cards or is ref over protecting their young starlets?
He's given them quite a few soft free kicks over the night too.
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Are we really worthy of 4 yellow cards or is ref over protecting their young starlets?
He's given them quite a few soft free kicks over the night too.
Probably going to give them a load of Fergie time too, to make sure they get an equaliser.
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Bollox - corner given 30 seconds after the 5 extra and they score a scramble
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Commentator needs to put his cock away or he'll be done for indecent exposure. Tosser.
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Are we really worthy of 4 yellow cards or is ref over protecting their young starlets?
He's given them quite a few soft free kicks over the night too.
Probably going to give them a load of Fergie time too, to make sure they get an equaliser.
So far 7 minutes of added on time
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As I was saying......
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Bollox - corner given 30 seconds after the 5 extra and they score a scramble
Yes he did!
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FFS
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Stupid could have easily kept in the corner at 90+4 for rovers
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Thought Lawlor was static for their last... maybe unsighted. Chance for him to redeem himself now...
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Well we have lawler in goal.any bets on the outcome.
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Remind me what’s the point of pens? You get a bonus point maybe?
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We'll lose this.... 1:0 Utd
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Now 2:2
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Now 4:2 Utd
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:(
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5:3 Utd win - Lawlor nowhere nera any of them - good peno's
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Sky and the refs got the result they wanted
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Thought Lawlor was static for their last... maybe unsighted. Chance for him to redeem himself now...
Their 2nd pen looked very saveable
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Threw the win away poor after substitutes
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Some of our defending near the end was terrible
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Quite enjoyed that game, more positives than negatives
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Remind me what’s the point of pens? You get a bonus point maybe?
Yeah, point each for the draw then bonus point for winning the shoot out.
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All a bit loose and gung-ho - no management of the ball.
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Quite enjoyed that game, more positives than negatives
I always enjoy the games vs the Big Boys u21's, I know a lot on here don't agree with em being in it but they're always a good spectacle imo.
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Shame that, as Rovers played well upto 70 mins, then they nipped out bought some wrapping paper a few ribbons and totally gifted the game to them.
As for the equaliser, not one of our defenders attacked the cross in, that was defending from 2 years ago.
Very annoying end result.
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Quite enjoyed that game, more positives than negatives
I always enjoy the games vs the Big Boys u21's, I know a lot on here don't agree with em being in it but they're always a good spectacle imo.
Yeah, I think it works for both clubs youngsters.
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Lawlor dived the right way at least 4 times and was still unable to get across to the far post when their shots were not as firmly struck as they might have been. The Man U keeper was more athletic and got to the left side of his goal and made the save, having nearly saved Molyneux’s
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Not a single mention on BBC Five Live regarding the six E.F.L.Trophy games this evening. Anybody know why not?
Just asking!
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Lawlor not good enough, just seemed to chuck himself into a corner instead of making some effort to produce a save…..don’t rate the guy…. If you hadn’t guessed lol .
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Could have had a foot in the next round now we will need results to go out way in other games unless we can beat Barnsley at end of October.
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Lawlor got close to one, the other 4 pens absolutely no chance.
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Will say one thing thought man u penalties were very good dunno if TSL would have done better with him being younger
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The big irony of PL U21 sides is that if we could get one of these lads on loan we would expect great things of him - the Craig/Harry Kane/Ramsey effect. Put a team of them together and you might expect them to just sail past L1 and L2 sides!
Why don't they?
Most will never make it above L1 level
Harry Kane managed to be better than L1 level.
Most doesn’t mean all
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What position did Tommy play and how did he look?
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Am impressed with Josh Emmanuel
Sponsors' MoM
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What position did Tommy play and how did he look?
Tommy played usually centre half but drifted out wide at the back and then in to midfield later second half. Best player on the pitch by some distance.
I thought we were poor throughout, Kelly who I usually like was absolutely awful, but not many lads should hold their head up after that. Man U the worst U21s I’ve seen down here. We should have been out of sight and threw it away. We need to be much much better on Saturday or Chesterfield will hammer us.
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When people say it’s the inconsistency in officiating which is frustrating, summed up the last 2 games.
Saturday, despite MK dons wasting 50% of the 5 min injury time the ref couldn’t wait to blow his whistle as the clock hit 90+5, robbing us of a corner.
Tonight the clock hits 90+5 and the ref lets them take it.
Irritating but I quite enjoyed that game.
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Who was the donut who threw the ball into our crowded penno area for their soft 2nd?
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The big irony of PL U21 sides is that if we could get one of these lads on loan we would expect great things of him - the Craig/Harry Kane/Ramsey effect. Put a team of them together and you might expect them to just sail past L1 and L2 sides!
Why don't they?
Most will never make it above L1 level
Harry Kane managed to be better than L1 level.
Most doesn’t mean all
Filo, did you notice HARRY Kane.
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Who was the donut who threw the ball into our crowded penno area for their soft 2nd?
Kelly unfortunately (yet to impress me)
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We needed better game management. Deep in extra time senior did a great overlap to the corner flag and should have held the ball there to run down the clock but he whipped a cross in.
We deserved to win that game but hey ho! Beat the dingles and it doesn’t matter
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Comment of the night oldish bloke sat in front of me was when a replay was being shown on the big screen "Oh they must have camera's "
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Just seen their equaliser and it's not good viewing. Their keeper should never have been the first to the ball....at his feet..in a central position. The balls travelled a long way without a Rovers player getting near it.
McCanns not going to be happy not seeing the game out, particularly when more experienced players came on as subs (other than SSB) who should have the nouse to close the game out.
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Clif had to restrain him at the end, before the pens
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Too many blinded by the result when giving opinions about individual players - yes of course we should have seen it out and the fact we didn't was far more down to their never say die attitude and a bit of luck here and there.
The fact is against a technically strong and fit side we played very well for large parts and there were some strong performances, Olowu is different class for me and MUST start alongside Jay week in week out. Broadbent sees and plays killer passes through the eye of a needle the rest of our midfielders could only dream about,Yeboah was class and a real handful all game. It was an enjoyable game of football all the way through and all adds grist to the mill as Grant works his way through determining our strongest side.
The best is yet to come.
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Too many blinded by the result when giving opinions about individual players - yes of course we should have seen it out and the fact we didn't was far more down to their never say die attitude and a bit of luck here and there.
The fact is against a technically strong and fit side we played very well for large parts and there were some strong performances, Olowu is different class for me and MUST start alongside Jay week in week out. Broadbent sees and plays killer passes through the eye of a needle the rest of our midfielders could only dream about,Yeboah was class and a real handful all game. It was an enjoyable game of football all the way through and all adds grist to the mill as Grant works his way through determining our strongest side.
The best is yet to come.
I am starting to like Yeboah. Yes he’s very raw but he seems to be offering more than Hurst and Gibson.
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Too many blinded by the result when giving opinions about individual players - yes of course we should have seen it out and the fact we didn't was far more down to their never say die attitude and a bit of luck here and there.
The fact is against a technically strong and fit side we played very well for large parts and there were some strong performances, Olowu is different class for me and MUST start alongside Jay week in week out. Broadbent sees and plays killer passes through the eye of a needle the rest of our midfielders could only dream about,Yeboah was class and a real handful all game. It was an enjoyable game of football all the way through and all adds grist to the mill as Grant works his way through determining our strongest side.
The best is yet to come.
I resisted biting to some comments on this, you'd have thought Scawthorpe under 10's had just beaten us.
For 75/80 minutes we were good, yes we should have seen it out but hey ho I'm sure everyone's aware of that.
I thought Broadbent had a great game, as did the (biased according to some) Sky commentator,, only thing he did wrong was have his pen saved. Olowu & Kasper good, I agree with Grant the booking was harsh to say the least, Moly was a constant threat when he came on, Yeboah did well in parts & took his goal well, Sam Straughan-Brown looks like a future fans favourite to me.
All in all a good game & a draw for our second string mainly, against a good side.
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I thought the decision to continue with an aggressive press all over the pitch when 3-1 up gave them a way back in to it
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This is the Utd highlights of the game;
https://youtu.be/2axBgxmNUq0?si=9qRRiKY8YnwYwjqN
BobG
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I thought that one of our players Emmanuel or Olowu was grabbed from behind by the shoulders and stopped from having a chance of blocking the keepers shot.
Also thought the Ref had a good view of it.
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I thought the decision to continue with an aggressive press all over the pitch when 3-1 up gave them a way back in to it
Our team had all the experience, yet ultimately we played into their hands. The starting 11 let the talented footballing U21s play their fancy close passing stuff which was largely ineffectual and we countered with a more strategic sensible style. The way the U21s persisted riskily trying to play out from the back was illustrative of their naivety in contrast to Rovers' more direct approach and, despite the eulogising commentator, we were well on top.
Once the first-teamers came on, instead of consolidating that approach they gave the U21s space and paid the price. Obviously Lawlor, whose main attribute seems to be his confidence in blaming the defence when he is too slow to react to shots that pass a few feet in front of him contributed, but the subs were clearly culpable.
To regard this as another learning experience (at the hands of a bunch of youths) by a team on its way to the league title is thinking on lines which is beginning to stretch my optimism beyond its limits.
We played some good football up until the substitutions and most of the latter ought to start on the bench on Saturday.