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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Butchers Red on October 05, 2024, 04:55:06 pm
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In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.
Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.
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In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.
Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.
It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
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Could hear ‘start a fire’ but couldn’t make out the words on Rovers+, though it sounded very loud.
Great to sing about your own team and players, proper support, well done to all that went. .
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Love the Gibson chant. Agree that Ironside needs a song.
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Brilliant he really seemed to appreciate it at the end
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Great chant, still singing it at home
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It’s the Phil Foden song from the euros. Great support today, interesting to see Gibson at the end looking a bit shy about it all. He’s possibly not the most confident despite having loads of ability.
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In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.
Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.
It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
Back when he was scoring last season we had an ironside song to come on feel the noise that worked well
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It's the phil foden chant for England if anyone's unaware
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Free press done an article about the chant
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In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.
Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.
It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
Back when he was scoring last season we had an ironside song to come on feel the noise that worked well
Joe Ironside instead of Mr Brightside by the Killers would work. I'm sure the lyrics could be adapted to suit?!
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Gaz, you can see he is quite a shy guy when you watch him around the ground and in front of the camera.
Once he settles in and becomes more comfortable we will have a very good player on our hands. I think Molly is, or was the same. A season later look how Molly has grown!
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In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.
Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.
It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
Back when he was scoring last season we had an ironside song to come on feel the noise that worked well
Seriously.
I sit in the south stand, not far from the main singers, and I have never heard that.
A simple one would be just to sing Joe Ironside (on repeat) to the tune of “we’re f**king shit” which was sung quite a lot a couple of years back.
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Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
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In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.
Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.
It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
Back when he was scoring last season we had an ironside song to come on feel the noise that worked well
Seriously.
I sit in the south stand, not far from the main singers, and I have never heard that.
A simple one would be just to sing Joe Ironside (on repeat) to the tune of “we’re f**king shit” which was sung quite a lot a couple of years back.
sure we do have 2 for Joe anyway and one is like you said as the same tune or to joey ironside
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In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.
Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.
It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
Back when he was scoring last season we had an ironside song to come on feel the noise that worked well
Seriously.
I sit in the south stand, not far from the main singers, and I have never heard that.
A simple one would be just to sing Joe Ironside (on repeat) to the tune of “we’re f**king shit” which was sung quite a lot a couple of years back.
sure we do have 2 for Joe anyway and one is like you said as the same tune or to joey ironside
Honestly, I have never heard it.
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Brilliant atmosphere and that chant was just what Gibson needs to make him feel loved.
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Gaz, you can see he is quite a shy guy when you watch him around the ground and in front of the camera.
Once he settles in and becomes more comfortable we will have a very good player on our hands. I think Molly is, or was the same. A season later look how Molly has grown!
That’s a good point. I know Gibson has had issues in the past. Perhaps he’s a bit of a complicated character.
People presume footballers will all just be balls out, confident lads. Just not the case is it, especially at this level. Plenty of them have lots of ability but not the character to play higher.
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Gaz, you can see he is quite a shy guy when you watch him around the ground and in front of the camera.
Once he settles in and becomes more comfortable we will have a very good player on our hands. I think Molly is, or was the same. A season later look how Molly has grown!
That’s a good point. I know Gibson has had issues in the past. Perhaps he’s a bit of a complicated character.
People presume footballers will all just be balls out, confident lads. Just not the case is it, especially at this level. Plenty of them have lots of ability but not the character to play higher.
Refreshing to hear you recognising that young professional footballers can have fragile mentalities GazLaz.
I sometimes cringe at the vitriolic abuse they are subjected to.
They are just young people with all the frailties and vulnerabilities that most of us have.
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Great to hear of this support for Gibson - can someone enlighten me as to the words and the tune?
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Gaz, you can see he is quite a shy guy when you watch him around the ground and in front of the camera.
Once he settles in and becomes more comfortable we will have a very good player on our hands. I think Molly is, or was the same. A season later look how Molly has grown!
That’s a good point. I know Gibson has had issues in the past. Perhaps he’s a bit of a complicated character.
People presume footballers will all just be balls out, confident lads. Just not the case is it, especially at this level. Plenty of them have lots of ability but not the character to play higher.
Refreshing to hear you recognising that young professional footballers can have fragile mentalities GazLaz.
I sometimes cringe at the vitriolic abuse they are subjected to.
They are just young people with all the frailties and vulnerabilities that most of us have.
Sometimes it's just mentality that separates the top players from lower league players.
It's having the confidence to brush off the moans after a bad pass. Top strikers often laugh when they've missed a sitter, lower league players smash their fists into the grass.
Top players have a ruthless streak in them, getting to the top no matter what, often pissing off teammates and coaching staff.
I noticed Jordan look over to the away end when the chant first broke out and he seemed a bit puzzled until it finally sunk in.
Then he clapped the away end but looked slightly embarrassed by it.
I hope the lad is absolutely buzzing this evening, that memory will live long for him.
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It's the tune to Dancing in the Dark by Bruce Springsteen
Can't start a fire
Can't start a fire without a spark
Jordan Gibson's on fire
And he's playing Grimsby off the park
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Gaz, you can see he is quite a shy guy when you watch him around the ground and in front of the camera.
Once he settles in and becomes more comfortable we will have a very good player on our hands. I think Molly is, or was the same. A season later look how Molly has grown!
That’s a good point. I know Gibson has had issues in the past. Perhaps he’s a bit of a complicated character.
People presume footballers will all just be balls out, confident lads. Just not the case is it, especially at this level. Plenty of them have lots of ability but not the character to play higher.
Interesting one isn’t it. I’m only reading into body language at games and the little bits and bobs you see online but I’ve noticed that Gibson does seem a bit more withdrawn from the other lads at times and doesn’t seem as pally as some of the others. Maybe he just likes to keep himself to himself.
Nothing wrong with it if he can play like he did today. Seemed to appreciate the chanting.
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Technically a great shot on him, zero back lift and totally flat, with real velocity.
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Reminds me a bit of Dave Cotterill the way he strikes the ball.
Second today was a really good finish. First time with his ‘weaker’ foot.
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It's the tune to Dancing in the Dark by Bruce Springsteen
Can't start a fire
Can't start a fire without a spark
Jordan Gibson's on fire
And he's playing Grimsby off the park
Thanks Reg, cracking chant that. Well done to our fans.
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Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
A big YES, and a very good point.
Would not be the song to sing.
Please give it a miss just for one game.
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Two excellent goals by Jordan today.
I absolutely loved the way the Grimsby fans all leapt off their seats and cheered when Jordan’s first effort was cleared off the line, only to all sit down again when he scored the follow-up!
I’ve watched that back 4 times already and laughed every time!
His reaction to recover and score with his right foot, over the heads of the keeper and defender on the line, was brilliant.
Then his second was a superb strike with his other foot.
I was really impressed with Jordan in the first game of the season and I think we’re seeing what he can do now.
Great signing.
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https://x.com/gibson7_/status/1842633641450704961?s=46&t=NW2HQZbSZTCyeJVxHL-jUg
Acknowledging the support on Twitter too ^^
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https://x.com/gibson7_/status/1842633641450704961?s=46&t=NW2HQZbSZTCyeJVxHL-jUg
Acknowledging the support on Twitter too ^^
Springsteen fan perhaps?
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Gibbo is the one that stood out for me at pre season friendlies,his finishing is great,I felt he would thrive in GM's style/team.He started the season great,had a blip where his finishing let him down by his usually high standard in a couple of games recently,and looks back to his best again,Bravo young man.
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Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
A big YES, and a very good point.
Would not be the song to sing.
Please give it a miss just for one game.
Could be taken as tragedy abuse?
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Gibbo is the one that stood out for me at pre season friendlies,his finishing is great,I felt he would thrive in GM's style/team.He started the season great,had a blip where his finishing let him down by his usually high standard in a couple of games recently,and looks back to his best again,Bravo young man.
The timing of his run was superb and also the way he took it round the keeper, however that slight hesitation to slot it home almost cost him , allowing the defender to put in a great block, but from there the calmness & composure to pick his spot was tremendous. I've seen premier league players panic and just try and blast it in those situations.
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Gibbo is the one that stood out for me at pre season friendlies,his finishing is great,I felt he would thrive in GM's style/team.He started the season great,had a blip where his finishing let him down by his usually high standard in a couple of games recently,and looks back to his best again,Bravo young man.
The timing of his run was superb and also the way he took it round the keeper, however that slight hesitation to slot it home almost cost him , allowing the defender to put in a great block, but from there the calmness & composure to pick his spot was tremendous. I've seen premier league players panic and just try and blast it in those situations.
Both goals were great finishes. They weren’t hit and hopes, the ball went exactly where he wanted both times.
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In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.
Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.
It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
the Ironside one was to the tune of abba’s gimme,gimme,gimme
A striker from England
Plays in red n white
And is name is Joe iron-side
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In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.
Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.
It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
the Ironside one was to the tune of abba’s gimme,gimme,gimme
A striker from England
Plays in red n white
And is name is Joe iron-side
I will listen out for it next time Joe is on the pitch.
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Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
A big YES, and a very good point.
Would not be the song to sing.
Please give it a miss just for one game.
Could be taken as tragedy abuse?
Thoughtless and uncaring, would be my thoughts.
And I’m sure we wouldn’t want to be placed in this bracket.
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Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
A big YES, and a very good point.
Would not be the song to sing.
Please give it a miss just for one game.
Could be taken as tragedy abuse?
Thoughtless and uncaring, would be my thoughts.
And I’m sure we wouldn’t want to be placed in this bracket.
FWIW, my opinion is that the classy thing to do would be for us to announce prior to the match that we are not singing it during this one game as a mark of respect to Bradford ('us' could be DRFC Official and/or supporters' group). Then if any less classy people try to start singing, maybe they could be persuaded to stop.
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Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
A big YES, and a very good point.
Would not be the song to sing.
Please give it a miss just for one game.
Could be taken as tragedy abuse?
Thoughtless and uncaring, would be my thoughts.
And I’m sure we wouldn’t want to be placed in this bracket.
FWIW, my opinion is that the classy thing to do would be for us to announce prior to the match that we are not singing it during this one game as a mark of respect to Bradford ('us' could be DRFC Official and/or supporters' group). Then if any less classy people try to start singing, maybe they could be persuaded to stop.
Get it sang, no announcements needed. Nothing wrong about it.
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Agreed, anyone with more than one brain cell will know it's got absolutely nothing to do with the bradford tragedy.
Get it sung and support our players !
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Having lived in Bradford since 1978 and knowing many City fans some who were there on that day I think that it would be in very bad taste. Surely we can rise above it for one game.
They lost 56 fans and over 200 were injured that day plus many more suffered mentally. Imagine if it were us that had lost fans like that. Just my opinion of course.
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When Gibson scores a 93rd minute winner we’ll just clap rather than chant his name until and after the final whistle.
RTID!
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Having lived in Bradford since 1978 and knowing many City fans some who were there on that day I think that it would be in very bad taste. Surely we can rise above it for one game.
They lost 56 fans and over 200 were injured that day plus many more suffered mentally. Imagine if it were us that had lost fans like that. Just my opinion of course.
100% (as the footy players say).
Just chant the lads name. “Giiiibbbo” ain’t to difficult is it, or is it.
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One of those that died, Leo, was in my house giving me a quote for double glazing a week or so before the fire. He was telling us how he had turned his life around and met a young lady after his failed marriage. He was really looking forward to the future.
He was one of those who made their way to the back of the stand only to find the exit padlocked. He was only identified by his car keys. There will be loads in the Bradford end knowing similar stories. Let’s show some respect, and class. As RoversInSpain says we can support the Rovers and Gibson in the right manner.
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I think this is fairly obvious. You just don't go to the place where a tragedy happened like Bradford did and start singing a song that sings about starting fires.
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Again, anyone with more than one brain cell will realise it's got nothing to do with the tragedy.
Why do people in this day and age go out of their way to find insult in everything.
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It's called "putting your foot in it", or at least it used to be when people respected decorum.
Saying something quite innocently like "How's your husband?"
and getting the reply "Oh, he died this morning", is putting your foot in it.
To say "How's your husband?", knowing full well he died this morning, is somewhat contemptible.
To sing the Gibson chant at the Bradford game, knowing full well about the ground's past fire disaster, is insensitive and innapropriate.
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
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I wonder if other teams fans had such a cringing discussion over singing Will Griggs chant at Bradford? Mentioning the word “fire” is not tragedy mocking in any way unless deliberately referencing the event, which it isn’t. Society needs to stop thinking everyone and everything is offensive
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I wonder if other teams fans had such a cringing discussion over singing Will Griggs chant at Bradford? Mentioning the word “fire” is not tragedy mocking in any way unless deliberately referencing the event, which it isn’t. Society needs to stop thinking everyone and everything is offensive
Amen
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The point is it could be taken as being insensitive.
Bradford fans are not familiar with the song are they.
What they will hear is “start a fire” and the rest becomes blurred.
If some of you can’t see that then you really are the most selfish & insensitive to what happened on that horrific day at Valley Parade.
In no way should that song be sung at Bradford on the 26th Oct.
End of imo.
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The point is it could be taken as being insensitive.
Bradford fans are not familiar with the song are they.
What they will hear is “start a fire” and the rest becomes blurred.
If some of you can’t see that then you really are the most selfish & insensitive to what happened on that horrific day at Valley Parade.
In no way should that song be sung at Bradford on the 26th Oct.
End of imo.
Why wouldn’t they be familiar? It’s not unique to us
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The point is it could be taken as being insensitive.
Bradford fans are not familiar with the song are they.
What they will hear is “start a fire” and the rest becomes blurred.
If some of you can’t see that then you really are the most selfish & insensitive to what happened on that horrific day at Valley Parade.
In no way should that song be sung at Bradford on the 26th Oct.
End of imo.
Why wouldn’t they be familiar? It’s not unique to us
Get a grip.
Are you old enough to have seen what happened that day? If you are you need to give yourself a damn good wobble.
If your not then just think about what those survivors, relatives & friends have gone through for the last 39 yrs and 5 months.
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Easy to sort. ask the Bradford fans on their forum.
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The point is it could be taken as being insensitive.
Bradford fans are not familiar with the song are they.
What they will hear is “start a fire” and the rest becomes blurred.
If some of you can’t see that then you really are the most selfish & insensitive to what happened on that horrific day at Valley Parade.
In no way should that song be sung at Bradford on the 26th Oct.
End of imo.
Why wouldn’t they be familiar? It’s not unique to us
Get a grip.
Are you old enough to have seen what happened that day? If you are you need to give yourself a damn good wobble.
If your not then just think about what those survivors, relatives & friends have gone through for the last 39 yrs and 5 months.
Of course I am, and I suspect I’ve had to view the footage a lot more than you on fire training courses. Where do we draw the line? Stop telling players to shoot in case it offends relatives of shooting victims? Crosses will be out so we don’t upset Christians, can’t say sinking without trace, may be upsetting to anyone who knows anyone who has gone down with a ship.
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Easy to sort. ask the Bradford fans on their forum.
Hmmm.. "Donny fan in peace. We are a cutely aware of the Bradford fire disaster and we will always be respectful of this particularly the family and friends of those who tragically lost their lives. However, we have a chant for one of our players which contain references to fire so we would like to ask you if we sing it, is it likely to cause offence?"
Now, however politely you might ask this, I expect you'd probably get a mixed response, just as we have on here. I think my advice for what it's worth is where there is doubt, don't go there at all and show the ultimate respect, even if some might think it's over sensitive. As said by others support Gibson and the team in other ways just for one game!
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Easy to sort. ask the Bradford fans on their forum.
Hmmm.. "Donny fan in peace. We are a cutely aware of the Bradford fire disaster and we will always be respectful of this particularly the family and friends of those who tragically lost their lives. However, we have a chant for one of our players which contain references to fire so we would like to ask you if we sing it, is it likely to cause offence?"
Now, however politely you might ask this, I expect you'd probably get a mixed response, just as we have on here. I think my advice for what it's worth is where there is doubt, don't go there at all and show the ultimate respect, even if some might think it's over sensitive. As said by others support Gibson and the team in other ways just for one game!
Part of the potential problem in my eyes is the very specific line 'can't start a fire without a spark'. That is more than just a song with the word 'fire' in it. It very closely describes the crux of the whole disaster.
It is much easier for us to avoid singing this particular song on one day than for survivors and relatives have awful memories re-awakened at the very scene of their suffering and loss. I would have much less of a problem with us singing it at the Keepmoat/Ecopower.
Equally I would have much less of a problem singing the equivalent of the 'Will Grigg's on fire' song, based on 'Freed from Desire' with lyrics not specifically describing how a fire starts.
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Easy to sort. ask the Bradford fans on their forum.
Hmmm.. "Donny fan in peace. We are a cutely aware of the Bradford fire disaster and we will always be respectful of this particularly the family and friends of those who tragically lost their lives. However, we have a chant for one of our players which contain references to fire so we would like to ask you if we sing it, is it likely to cause offence?"
Now, however politely you might ask this, I expect you'd probably get a mixed response, just as we have on here. I think my advice for what it's worth is where there is doubt, don't go there at all and show the ultimate respect, even if some might think it's over sensitive. As said by others support Gibson and the team in other ways just for one game!
Part of the potential problem in my eyes is the very specific line 'can't start a fire without a spark'. That is more than just a song with the word 'fire' in it. It very closely describes the crux of the whole disaster.
It is much easier for us to avoid singing this particular song on one day than for survivors and relatives have awful memories re-awakened at the very scene of their suffering and loss. I would have much less of a problem with us singing it at the Keepmoat/Ecopower.
Equally I would have much less of a problem singing the equivalent of the 'Will Grigg's on fire' song, based on 'Freed from Desire' with lyrics not specifically describing how a fire starts.
Agree Dutch. Any reference to fire should ideally be avoided. We just don't know how it could be interpreted or even misinterpreted, so just avoid it.
I would imagine we would gain more respect as a fan base, even by having this discussion and choosing not to sing the song by erring on the side of caution.
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Let's face it, it's not going to happen. The "fans" will belt this out as they did at Grimsby particularly if Jordan has a blinder.
Right or wrong, to some it doesn't feature in their mindset
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Let's face it, it's not going to happen. The "fans" will belt this out as they did at Grimsby particularly if Jordan has a blinder.
Right or wrong, to some it doesn't feature in their mindset
The majority who will sing it will not have been born until well after 1985
That’s the problem. Many will have very little knowledge of the tragedy.
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We should not chant anything that mentions fire at Bradford.
Have some class
End of
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Should probably not sing Rovers till I die out of respect for all the people that have died this week
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I seriously despair at the insensitivity of some of the posts on here.
Quite unbelievable to be honest. The sarcasm of some of the posts are disgusting.
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Maybe we should start looking at bans for those who are being insensitive?
Or in other thoughts, maybe we should accept an event that happened 40 years ago is completely unconnected to Gibsons chant - which of course all those complainers already know.
Something very strange about people who go looking for things to be offended about on other people's behalf.
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Should probably not sing Rovers till I die out of respect for all the people that have died this week
Why would singing about supporting your club until you die be disrespectful? Many teams' supporters have adopted this approach.
https://youtu.be/wf3gKigQteU
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Maybe we should start looking at bans for those who are being insensitive?
Or in other thoughts, maybe we should accept an event that happened 40 years ago is completely unconnected to Gibsons chant - which of course all those complainers already know.
Something very strange about people who go looking for things to be offended about on other people's behalf.
In this instance, showing restraint is hardly being Woke. It is respecting a subject that is particularly sensitive to the people of Bradford.
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Maybe Gibson himself would rather not have the chant sung there after actually playing for Bradford City. He’s not actually their favourite ex player after the way he left and then celebrated his goal against City for Carlisle that condemned City to another season in League 2.
City players do mark the anniversary every year when there is a service in the city centre. He will have been there at least once.
Everybody to their own though but me and my family won’t join in the chant.
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Let's face it, it's not going to happen. The "fans" will belt this out as they did at Grimsby particularly if Jordan has a blinder.
Right or wrong, to some it doesn't feature in their mindset
Good point ravenrover.
I agree with the majority of posts on here calling for us not to sing this particular song. Those making this point are sensitive, mature, intelligent, articulate people.
Sadly, that doesn't describe the whole demographic of our fan base.
The morons standing near me at the away game at Harrogate, shouting at the Harrogate 'keeper "You're a paedo Belshaw" didn't appear to be too bothered about offending anyone's sensitivity.
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Should probably not sing Rovers till I die out of respect for all the people that have died this week
Why would singing about supporting your club until you die be disrespectful? Many teams' supporters have adopted this approach.
https://youtu.be/wf3gKigQteU
Whooooosh!
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Maybe we should start looking at bans for those who are being insensitive?
Or in other thoughts, maybe we should accept an event that happened 40 years ago is completely unconnected to Gibsons chant - which of course all those complainers already know.
Something very strange about people who go looking for things to be offended about on other people's behalf.
It's bizarre isn't it?
Some real wet wipes on here.
When it gets sung, which I'll be one of the ones doing so, supporting our player. They need to remember it's not us that's giving the offence, it's them that are CHOOSING to be offended by it on behalf of another group of people.
As such, I'll not be censored by a vocal, over opinionated minority on here.
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Maybe Gibson himself would rather not have the chant sung there after actually playing for Bradford City. He’s not actually their favourite ex player after the way he left and then celebrated his goal against City for Carlisle that condemned City to another season in League 2.
City players do mark the anniversary every year when there is a service in the city centre. He will have been there at least once.
Everybody to their own though but me and my family won’t join in the chant.
Gibson loves the chant, and he's come out and said so.
Maybe he wants the Rovers fans to sing it, especially against a club he left under a cloud
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Should probably not sing Rovers till I die out of respect for all the people that have died this week
Why would singing about supporting your club until you die be disrespectful? Many teams' supporters have adopted this approach.
https://youtu.be/wf3gKigQteU
Whooooosh!
I don't think so!
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Maybe we should start looking at bans for those who are being insensitive?
Or in other thoughts, maybe we should accept an event that happened 40 years ago is completely unconnected to Gibsons chant - which of course all those complainers already know.
Something very strange about people who go looking for things to be offended about on other people's behalf.
It's bizarre isn't it?
Some real wet wipes on here.
When it gets sung, which I'll be one of the ones doing so, supporting our player. They need to remember it's not us that's giving the offence, it's them that are CHOOSING to be offended by it on behalf of another group of people.
As such, I'll not be censored by a vocal, over opinionated minority on here.
How upset you get makes you look a bit of a 'wet wipe' then again most people who name themselves after fictional characters usually are.
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Along with freedom of speech comes the freedom to be kind
'In a world where you can be anything, be kind' (Clare Pooley)
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Playing Grimsby off the park?
Surely it has to be changed to fit the team we are actually playing. It sounded ridiculous
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
There's no statute of limitations on respect for a horror like the Bradford fire. Certainly not while people who experienced it are still alive.
It's depressing to have to point this out.
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Playing Grimsby off the park?
Surely it has to be changed to fit the team we are actually playing. It sounded ridiculous
Disagree. England’s version was about Foden playing Germany off the park and we never played them. Stick with it being Grimsby.
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Playing Grimsby off the park?
Surely it has to be changed to fit the team we are actually playing. It sounded ridiculous
Disagree. England’s version was about Foden playing Germany off the park and we never played them. Stick with it being Grimsby.
Yeah, and we always batter grimsby!
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
There's no statute of limitations on respect for a horror like the Bradford fire. Certainly not while people who experienced it are still alive.
It's depressing to have to point this out.
You've completely missed the point old fella
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Let's face it, it's not going to happen. The "fans" will belt this out as they did at Grimsby particularly if Jordan has a blinder.
Right or wrong, to some it doesn't feature in their mindset
Exactly what I was thinking. Our fans will sing it. But the classy thing to do would be to not do so. But they will sing it.
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Playing Grimsby off the park?
Surely it has to be changed to fit the team we are actually playing. It sounded ridiculous
Disagree. England’s version was about Foden playing Germany off the park and we never played them. Stick with it being Grimsby.
It's got nothing to do with Germany and Foden.
We play Crewe and they sing about Grimsby, just ridiculous
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Playing Grimsby off the park?
Surely it has to be changed to fit the team we are actually playing. It sounded ridiculous
Disagree. England’s version was about Foden playing Germany off the park and we never played them. Stick with it being Grimsby.
It's got nothing to do with Germany and Foden.
We play Crewe and they sing about Grimsby, just ridiculous
England played Serbia and chanted about Germany. Oh my god, sack the choir. I think you need to get out more fella.
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
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Playing Grimsby off the park?
Surely it has to be changed to fit the team we are actually playing. It sounded ridiculous
without a doubt should be changed to either the team they are playing at the time or just change it to league 2 off the park
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Imagine moaning about the words used in a chant when the atmosphere has been shocking the last few games.
We should be grateful people try and sing at all as it isn’t many!
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Hope no one from Bradford watching the England game now Foden is on…….
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Imagine moaning about the words used in a chant when the atmosphere has been shocking the last few games.
We should be grateful people try and sing at all as it isn’t many!
Exactly! The ones moaning are probably the ones who like to sit amongst the black bank to feel like they are a part of it but contribute next to nothing to the atmosphere.
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Did I just hear "and we're playing Finland off the park" don't tell me they changed it to the team they were playing?
This one who's "moaning" did all his singing 50+ years ago and I don't sit in the South stand
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Imagine moaning about the words used in a chant when the atmosphere has been shocking the last few games.
We should be grateful people try and sing at all as it isn’t many!
Exactly! The ones moaning are probably the ones who like to sit amongst the black bank to feel like they are a part of it but contribute next to nothing to the atmosphere.
Do you think everyone sat/stood in silence before you were born?
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Can't believe this is even been discussed. How singing a song about our player can be seen as mocking the terrible disaster is crazy.
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Did I just hear "and we're playing Finland off the park" don't tell me they changed it to the team they were playing?
This one who's "moaning" did all his singing 50+ years ago and I don't sit in the South stand
Why do those that are older believe that they have done their time creating an atmosphere so now have the right to moan about others that do because “they did their singing 50+ years ago.” If you have an issue with any chant then get yourself in amongst it and start the songs off yourself.
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
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The ones that went to the exit at the back of the stand were as good as murdered. The door was still padlocked.
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
Think about what "analogy" means.
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Did I just hear "and we're playing Finland off the park" don't tell me they changed it to the team they were playing?
This one who's "moaning" did all his singing 50+ years ago and I don't sit in the South stand
Why do those that are older believe that they have done their time creating an atmosphere so now have the right to moan about others that do because “they did their singing 50+ years ago.” If you have an issue with any chant then get yourself in amongst it and start the songs off yourself.
And the the first part of the question?
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Also talking of the Bradford game. There seems little interest. There's about 300 left of the initial 1100 allocation. Cheaper than Grimsby. Probably equally as far dependant on village you live in. Odd Grimsby sold out weeks before. This fixture never seems to drum up any interest for an hour away.
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
Think about what "analogy" means.
Your talking about analogy fitting, and then talking about murder.
Give your head a wobble.
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Also talking of the Bradford game. There seems little interest. There's about 300 left of the initial 1100 allocation. Cheaper than Grimsby. Probably equally as far dependant on village you live in. Odd Grimsby sold out weeks before. This fixture never seems to drum up any interest for an hour away.
Only gone on general sale today haven’t they?
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
Think about what "analogy" means.
Your talking about analogy fitting, and then talking about murder.
Give your head a wobble.
Bit of a drama queen aren’t you Tony?
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
Think about what "analogy" means.
Your talking about analogy fitting, and then talking about murder.
Give your head a wobble.
Fair enough. DON'T think about what "analogy" means then. Just chuck a strop.
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
Think about what "analogy" means.
Your talking about analogy fitting, and then talking about murder.
Give your head a wobble.
Bit of a drama queen aren’t you Tony?
My own fault, what's that old saying ?
"You can't argue with idiots" :lol:
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
Think about what "analogy" means.
Your talking about analogy fitting, and then talking about murder.
Give your head a wobble.
Fair enough. DON'T think about what "analogy" means then. Just chuck a strop.
not entertaining you,
You start talking about murder and wonder why someone calls you out on it.
Like I say " can't argue with idiots, because they just drag you to their level, and beat you with experience"
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For me a few people hitting the nail on the head.
It’s not about us being offended, it’s not about Bradford fans being offended, its not about Woke, it’s not about restricting speech (or song), its not about silly analogies.
It’s simply about a little thoughtfulness, respect, for OUR fellow football fans who went to a match and became victims of a most horrific event, and didn’t get back home to see their families.
Bradford fans would probably think that singing about sparks and fires at Valley Parade is just a little bit insensitive, but mostly rather thick.
And I for one would agree with them.
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TS.
An analogy is a comparison of two otherwise unlike things based on the resemblance of a particular aspect.
As a matter of interest, just suppose the 56 spectators who accidentally burned to death in the Valley Parade fire were murdered instead by an arsonist. Would that scenario deter you from singing The Gibson Chant at Valley Parade?
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
Think about what "analogy" means.
Your talking about analogy fitting, and then talking about murder.
Give your head a wobble.
Bit of a drama queen aren’t you Tony?
Carefull Filo he'll be offering to meet you face you face.
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
I would imagine the families of those who lost their lives and knowing The fire doors were chained up probably think differently
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Your analogy doesn't fit here.
The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.
There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.
That's a really shit analogy
A better one would be to visit someone who had their entire family murdered horrifically 40 years ago and repeatedly say "I could murder a cuppa".
You wouldn't do it, would you? Unless you were utterly crass.
They weren't murdered you muppet! Trying to rewrite history ?
Lowlife
Think about what "analogy" means.
Your talking about analogy fitting, and then talking about murder.
Give your head a wobble.
Fair enough. DON'T think about what "analogy" means then. Just chuck a strop.
not entertaining you,
You start talking about murder and wonder why someone calls you out on it.
Like I say " can't argue with idiots, because they just drag you to their level, and beat you with experience"
I don't agree with you on much, but I can wholeheartedly agree that you're not entertaining me.
For the record, an analogy can have any theme. And in this case, the one I chose is particularly appropriate because both the original event and the analogy refer to horrific mass deaths. The fact that one is murder and the other an event for which the club and council were found legally responsible is really not important.
The point is, you wouldn't go to someone's house whose family had all been murdered, and repeatedly say, "I could murder a cuppa", would you? And if you wouldn't, and you can't see the analogy with a chant at Bradford about starting a fire, I think you're being deliberately evasive.