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Title: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: selby on October 20, 2024, 02:39:21 pm
  A big week ahead with the home game against Bromley and the away game at Bradford next weekend two teams from different ends of the division who both for different reasons  will be up for taking us down a peg or two.
 Bromley I think are a new one on me, not being a name of a club I can remember from our non league days, someone might be able to put me right, and with Cook at Bradford and Cheek at  Bromley we come up against the two top scorers in the division Cook on seven league goals and Cheek and Grigg on six.
  Enough about Bradford until after the Bromley game who are on a poor run of results having not won a game in their last nine games, and we need to debunk our old habit of getting poor form teams back on track, and letting teams who play more like non  league robust  teams over run us in mid field.
  Both games will be a battle, and to play our game we will need to stand the test that both sides will set us, in fairness when we are on it we can play, have goals in the team, and defensively are improving, the keeper looking much more confident in the short time he has been here, and we are a team to be respected,  at this level since February no one could envisage what the club as a whole has achieved.
  Tranmere beat Bromley 2-1 on Saturday with Bromley scoring in time added and their away record is not that bad winning one drawing two and lost two but 4 goals for and only five against so must have been quite close encounters losing most games by just the odd goal.
  So a team we will have to go toe to toe with and take our chances if and when they come, it  will again not be easy and we no doubt will have to battle to impose our game on them.
  So the first of two games we need to get something out of to stay up there in the division, and two games we need to be on our game to pressurise other teams around us and realise our ambition of being a front runner this season, it's exciting and worrying at the same time the norm for long standing Viking supporters, I wouldn't want it any other way.  So what do you think  Sharp  or Ironside or both? who will stand the physical test in  mid field and the low block? we have come up against the last few games, will Molyneux have two defenders on his back once again? will we be expansive in our game? will they allow us to be so? can we get back to winning ways at home?
  Lot's to look forward to, lots to discuss, please have your say, Bromley fans welcome to join in.
 
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Nudga on October 20, 2024, 03:22:51 pm
Would be happy with 4 points from the next 6 available.
Stay with the 3-5-2 at home and then go back to the 4-2-3-1 away at Bradford.

We have to attack Bromley from the off so we get them jitters going early. They won't bring many fans up so they won't have that vocal support plus it will liven our support up a bit as we can go quiet if there aren't any away fans to banter with.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Pintolager on October 20, 2024, 04:22:16 pm
Agree with Nudga. Bromley from what I have seen are a team to be attacked and I think they are a team for the taking if we approach the game right. If we can nulify their attacking threat, we should be fine
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 20, 2024, 04:52:11 pm
Their away form in the league is ok. They have lost the same away as we have (two) and conceded about half as many (five vs nine). This season they've gone to Harrogate and beat them, and got a 0-0 draw out of Fleetwood, both places we always struggle. They don't score many away though. Last three away league games they've managed just a single goal and that was a penalty.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Jersey Rover on October 20, 2024, 10:51:13 pm
Although we won Saturday, we were fortunate with the last min penalty. New formation I know, but as Grant said, it’s a plan B. Fully expect Grant to revert back to 4 2 3 1. Plan A, Plan B if we’re chasing.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Usher wide. on October 20, 2024, 11:14:41 pm
If we don’t win on Tuesday night I will show my bare bum in the window of the club shop after the game.

Please check with the shops staff with regards to framed photo prices.

Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on October 21, 2024, 12:37:59 pm
This game is more important to us than the Bradford game and we can't allow any complacency. Bromley deserve the same respect as any other League Two Club.

With the change of formation Saturday, no clue how he'll set up for this one. I do wonder now Maxwell is back, whether he'll get a start. With all due respect to Fleming, Maxwell has so much more potential. If so, then it's likely to be a back four.

Whatever the formation, I think we just need a little bit more zip with the passing and movement, particularly in the final third. A quick start will do the world of good and then maintain it. There's no excuse now not to keep up a high intensity without going too long.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: colincramb on October 21, 2024, 12:46:40 pm
No disrespect but if we can’t beat Bromley at home then we can forget about a top 3 finish. Precisely the type of matches we should be winning given what club say is our aim this season.

A win also takes the pressure off the Bradford game somewhat. 7 points from 9 would be a great return given 2 away games.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: jamesrover17 on October 21, 2024, 12:51:06 pm
No disrespect but if we can’t beat Bromley at home then we can forget about a top 3 finish. Precisely the type of matches we should be winning given what club say is our aim this season.

A win also takes the pressure off the Bradford game somewhat. 7 points from 9 would be a great return given 2 away games.

Exactly this, loosing or dropping points to teams we should be beating is what will cost us this season if we don't crack the top 3, we seem to get suckered in to dire football when playing 'lesser' opposition
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: idler on October 21, 2024, 01:12:20 pm
No disrespect but if we can’t beat Bromley at home then we can forget about a top 3 finish. Precisely the type of matches we should be winning given what club say is our aim this season.

A win also takes the pressure off the Bradford game somewhat. 7 points from 9 would be a great return given 2 away games.

Exactly this, loosing or dropping points to teams we should be beating is what will cost us this season if we don't crack the top 3, we seem to get suckered in to dire football when playing 'lesser' opposition
We all know football isn’t just that simple. Bottom teams do beat top clubs occasionally. As daft as anything losing to Bromley wouldn’t give a close rival any points. Losing to City could see them overtake us. Had we beat Harrogate as most expected but lost at Port Vale we would have the same number of points as now but be four points behind the leaders, not one.
It is a long season and all teams will lose games that on paper they should win easily. The better teams just do it less frequently.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: DearneValleyRover on October 21, 2024, 01:59:31 pm
Bromley will be hard to breakdown just the sort of team we struggle against. We need to play at a much higher tempo than we did on Saturday
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: scawsby steve on October 21, 2024, 05:05:44 pm
If we don’t win on Tuesday night I will show my bare bum in the window of the club shop after the game.

Please check with the shops staff with regards to framed photo prices.

Bloody hell, I'll be bringing some Diazepam and smelling salts if I might have to witness that.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Bailey Vickerage on October 21, 2024, 06:35:19 pm
Looks like they play a similar kind of formation to Swindon so will be interesting to see if we stick with the 3 at the back again or whether we go back to the 4231.

Either way I expect us to dominate the ball and they will make it tough for us to break them down (they have averaged the least amount of possession in the league with 41.1%).

The longer the game is at 0-0 the harder it will be, if we can get an early goal then can see us scoring 3 or 4 as they will then have to come at us more which will suit us.

Think we will be full of confidence after Saturday and I’m going for a 3-0 victory.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: ncRover on October 21, 2024, 07:09:47 pm
3-5-2 is extremely popular in League 2.

Our next 4 league opponents (Bromley, Bradford, Notts, Salford) all deploy that system.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on October 21, 2024, 07:15:15 pm
In Luke Molyneux's pre match, he said they're expecting a physical game against a 'big' team and we'll want to play on the deck as much as possible.

Read into that what we will. Does that suggest Ironsides exclusion, or inclusion for help defending set pieces, or double bluff?

I'd like to think we'll play a high possession game, be patient in picking the right passes and wear them down. Be disciplined and do our best not to give cheap free kicks away in our own half.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on October 21, 2024, 07:29:29 pm
Some of the confidence before this game is screaming unexpected loss.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: drfchound on October 21, 2024, 07:30:31 pm
A bit like pre Harrogate.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on October 21, 2024, 07:54:07 pm
Some of the confidence before this game is screaming unexpected loss.

I'll never forget Forest Greens first visit to Belle Vue. Lesson learned.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: RoversInSpain on October 21, 2024, 08:09:12 pm
Saturday didn’t seem that slick/fluid when we had the ball to me. The boys worked really hard out of possession, that was enough to edge it.
For me the raiding runs of Sterry with added no nonsense aggression from Maxwell makes me want to see them start.
The midfield need to shift the ball quickly and pull the Bromley defence about. Kelly needs to run at them, they’re organised so we need to disrupt.
I’d start with Joe I. I’d also be tempted to give Hurst the nod over Gibbo.
But Grant knows best… great opportunity to embed ourselves in the top 3, though in the last couple of weeks TLO Borrow and Gillingham have come a real cropper against the bottom 2 or 3 teams.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: ncRover on October 21, 2024, 09:40:26 pm
They have Byron Webster! He’s put some girth on since leaving us.

Amantchi up top is massive and their 6 foot 6 centre back looks like someone you’d create on a PlayStation game.

I’m surprised Moly let our game plan out of the bag in his interview but it’s the obvious play :lol:
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 21, 2024, 09:43:05 pm
Some of the confidence before this game is screaming unexpected loss.

I'll never forget Forest Greens first visit to Belle Vue. Lesson learned.

Lost 1-0 although to be fair we were on a run of one win in six then, which turned into one win in ten. We only won twice in our first 16 league games that season. We didn't half lose to some dross at home that season - Hayes, Leek Town and Hednesford Town spring to mind. We didn't manage a single goal against them actually.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: NickDRFC on October 21, 2024, 10:05:14 pm
They have Byron Webster! He’s put some girth on since leaving us.

Amantchi up top is massive and their 6 foot 6 centre back looks like someone you’d create on a PlayStation game.

I’m surprised Moly let our game plan out of the bag in his interview but it’s the obvious play :lol:

Webster’s not played in over a month and Amantchi has yet to start a game. I imagine they’ll still be a big and robust side even if neither start, though.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: GazLaz on October 21, 2024, 10:26:10 pm
Can really se a route for them winning the game. They play a pretty open style that will suit us, certainly have an attacking threat but they give up too many chances at the other end. Even if they go in front I’m not sure how they keep us out. Could be a good game this one.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on October 21, 2024, 11:41:05 pm
Saturday didn’t seem that slick/fluid when we had the ball to me. The boys worked really hard out of possession, that was enough to edge it.
For me the raiding runs of Sterry with added no nonsense aggression from Maxwell makes me want to see them start.
The midfield need to shift the ball quickly and pull the Bromley defence about. Kelly needs to run at them, they’re organised so we need to disrupt.
I’d start with Joe I. I’d also be tempted to give Hurst the nod over Gibbo.
But Grant knows best… great opportunity to embed ourselves in the top 3, though in the last couple of weeks TLO Borrow and Gillingham have come a real cropper against the bottom 2 or 3 teams.

Agreed. In the PL where the game is most intense, the defending team will be challenged for the ball as they play it around and out of defence. It also happens at other levels when the defending team is weak, but for Rovers at home to Bromley (and the like) Bromley are not likely to be drawn out of their half. In tomorrow’s match we need defenders and midfielders to carry to ball forward and be prepared to ride the challenges. This obviously involves risk, but let’s have more aggression and choose players who want to force the pace. After all, weaker teams are surely easier to defend against and they should be put under constant pressure.

The worst case is a Harrogate-type game, but nevertheless there is no alternative to relentless in attack. If we can’t win such games, something is wrong and the alleged inherent skill levels must be questioned. We don’t want any coasting through the second half sitting on a lead, we need a better goal difference and real evidence of commitment.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Metalmicky on October 22, 2024, 09:43:58 am
They have Byron Webster! He’s put some girth on since leaving us.


Byron is 37........ which makes me feel old.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: selby on October 22, 2024, 12:00:52 pm
Just play to the game plan and get a win, our confidence should be  sky high and we must have been the best team in the division since last February.
  The hard part is keeping it going and getting better, that is a football managers job, and to be fair our management team are not doing a bad job of it, long may it last and they are just left to get on with it and the club can grow along with them.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: idler on October 22, 2024, 01:17:46 pm
GM also gives a lot of credit to David Rennie for the players fitness and resilience. What a change from last season’s start.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Barmby Rover on October 22, 2024, 03:02:29 pm
I expect the front row to approach the game much more aggressively and Bromley to be beaten, 4-0
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: graingrover on October 22, 2024, 04:45:37 pm
I am often criticized for pink glasses syndrome concerning DRFC but I see this as a zero-point match for some irrational feeling!
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: ncRover on October 22, 2024, 07:34:12 pm
They have Byron Webster! He’s put some girth on since leaving us.

Amantchi up top is massive and their 6 foot 6 centre back looks like someone you’d create on a PlayStation game.

I’m surprised Moly let our game plan out of the bag in his interview but it’s the obvious play :lol:

Webster’s not played in over a month and Amantchi has yet to start a game. I imagine they’ll still be a big and robust side even if neither start, though.

Webster and Amantchi starting. No Cheek in the squad - their top scorer.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on October 22, 2024, 09:25:13 pm
Honestly next time you feel your heads getting big think we’re going to batter someone just keep it to yourselves. Honestly convinced this was going to happen after reading some comments here. We’re Donny rovers ffs now Man City.

Still time yet so hopefully I’ll eat these words
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: NickDRFC on October 22, 2024, 09:37:56 pm
This is a really, really poor result. Bromley are not very good at all but another poor performance from us. People keep talking about us having another gear and us hammering teams when we get going but we’re over a quarter of the way through the season now - are we maybe just not as good as we think we are?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dknward2 on October 22, 2024, 09:39:30 pm
Just as the Swindon game was a win why you get promoted, games like this are why you don't
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: RoversInSpain on October 22, 2024, 09:47:16 pm
Good performance…. Probably one of our best…terrible result, nothing went our way, sometimes that’s footy.
Keepers had the night of his life..z
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: RoversInSpain on October 22, 2024, 09:48:32 pm
PS
Their goal summed it all up
How?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: graingrover on October 22, 2024, 09:51:42 pm
As GM says , we don’t get too high when we win  nor too low when we lose .It must apply to all .
I learned early on in my Rovers life  that high flying teams can be beaten by bottom of the pile clubs .We once drew at Anfield when we were bottom of league 4 .
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: oggycompton on October 22, 2024, 09:58:26 pm
Forwards look dreadfully out of form. How on earth neither of them scored tonight with those balls across the 6 yard box is amazing.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Thorney on October 22, 2024, 10:01:59 pm
This is a really, really poor result. Bromley are not very good at all but another poor performance from us. People keep talking about us having another gear and us hammering teams when we get going but we’re over a quarter of the way through the season now - are we maybe just not as good as we think we are?

No creativity down the middle. Just keep going wide and lifting balls into the box hoping the giants they had at the back miss them
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on October 22, 2024, 10:05:04 pm
Bromley played to their strengths - their physical superiority coupled with 100% effort.

We played into their hands - high balls, predictable movement and little imagination in attack especially in the second half. We kept repeating what had failed repeatedly.
 
Bromley were fit and well organised and they got no favours from the ref who was very generous to us. Although we had shots on target they weren’t the best quality. Add to that a bit of good fortune for Bromley in their defending and we just did not have the ammunition to  wear them down.

We were not lacking in energy, but we were constantly under pressure, even in possession.
 
You could question why McCann could not provide an answer.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: tommy toes on October 22, 2024, 10:18:26 pm
This ^^ sums it up perfectly.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Plumbster on October 22, 2024, 10:22:31 pm
We don’t have anyone that can slow it down, create space, put people in behind, it’s all a bit manic and clunky. The strikers are off form but the service they are getting is poor.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on October 22, 2024, 10:23:31 pm
There’s a blind spot appearing for Grant. Big teams that organise well and run the game down. Harrogate, Newport and now these lot. Got to be much much more dynamic and creative. We were good for the first ten mins then we got slow and backwards, and relied on floating it long. Apart from Hurst I thought we weren’t at it. Yeboah is awful, he has no quality at all. Got to get shut as soon as we can.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: DRFC_AjA on October 22, 2024, 10:36:08 pm
Sideways sideways don't shoot, sideways backwards sideways don't shoot. It's like a passing drill from one wing to the other with 4 players touching it as it goes across. It's so easy to defend against
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: GazLaz on October 22, 2024, 10:36:45 pm
Two things that stand out for me as areas of improvement tactically-

When transitioning/breaking/counter attacking we rarely seem to have that run in behind. We need to a bit more orchestrated with the counter attacks as we were last season.

Secondly, in high possession situations we sobs maintain enough attacks through second and third phases. Possibly a midfield thing but possibly a defensive positioning thing. I think we can be a bit braver and everyone squeeze a little bit further up the pitch. Brings more risk but we need a bit more risk to manifest some reward. Naturally brings more tempo to the game as well because the easy sideways and backwards passes are less available.


Maxwell coming back will improve us massively, the wide men get loads of attention and that leaves space for the fullbacks to exploit. He will do that on the left, Sterry is a horror show on the right though, needs binning.

No need to panic, we are a good side, just need a few tweaks.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: drfchound on October 22, 2024, 10:37:49 pm
PS
Their goal summed it all up
How?

A terrific corner routine by the way.
Really caught us out.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dknward2 on October 22, 2024, 10:38:10 pm
Any teams that sit in the low block we can't deal with and break down.

We need a coppinger and a marquis to break through.

Why we didn't run at the players on yellows to try and get them into a red is a mystery, again missing the killer instinct
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: In the box on October 22, 2024, 10:38:46 pm
There’s a blind spot appearing for Grant. Big teams that organise well and run the game down. Harrogate, Newport and now these lot. Got to be much much more dynamic and creative. We were good for the first ten mins then we got slow and backwards, and relied on floating it long. Apart from Hurst I thought we weren’t at it. Yeboah is awful, he has no quality at all. Got to get shut as soon as we can.
When faced with 6’5 defenders the last thing we need is crosses hoping we can out jump them . McCann needs to get more impact from his quicker players in the midfield and help put Ironside and Sharp with more opportunities in the box and get behind defenders not trying to out jump them , but running behind them !!!
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: drfchound on October 22, 2024, 10:40:34 pm
There’s a blind spot appearing for Grant. Big teams that organise well and run the game down. Harrogate, Newport and now these lot. Got to be much much more dynamic and creative. We were good for the first ten mins then we got slow and backwards, and relied on floating it long. Apart from Hurst I thought we weren’t at it. Yeboah is awful, he has no quality at all. Got to get shut as soon as we can.
When faced with 6’5 defenders the last thing we need is crosses hoping we can out jump them . McCann needs to get more impact from his quicker players in the midfield and help put Ironside and Sharp with more opportunities in the box and get behind defenders not trying to out jump them , but running behind them !!!

We got behind them several times tonight but with only a couple of exceptions we failed to produce a killer pass.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Alan Southstand on October 22, 2024, 10:40:52 pm
Last season’s January window, Grant signed 3 players that gave us the X factor. This season, so far, we’re well short of that. He may have the quantity but he hasn’t got the quality.

Results like this show that there’s something missing. We are not learning.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: GazLaz on October 22, 2024, 10:42:15 pm
Any teams that sit in the low block we can't deal with and break down.

We need a coppinger and a marquis to break through.

Why we didn't run at the players on yellows to try and get them into a red is a mystery, again missing the killer instinct

They didn’t play in a low block in the first half. The got plenty of men forward when attacking and were wide open at times. We just failed to capitalise through a lack of quality and a bit of mid fortune.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 22, 2024, 10:43:46 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: drfchound on October 22, 2024, 10:44:23 pm
Some of the confidence before this game is screaming unexpected loss.

As I was saying, a bit like pre Harrogate.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: scawsby steve on October 22, 2024, 10:45:17 pm
I was looking forward to Bradford, now I'm dreading it. Play like we did tonight and they will muller us by 3 or 4.

Sterry and Maxwell are both good going forward, but are suspect defensively. If crosses are allowed in for Andy Cook, we'll be in big trouble.

We badly need our forwards to perform on Saturday to get anything out of this game.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Nudga on October 22, 2024, 10:45:45 pm
Hats off to Bromley, their pressing all over the pitch was ridiculous, never gave us a minute.
We couldn't match their energy.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 22, 2024, 10:49:57 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 22, 2024, 10:51:23 pm
Any teams that sit in the low block we can't deal with and break down.

We need a coppinger and a marquis to break through.

Why we didn't run at the players on yellows to try and get them into a red is a mystery, again missing the killer instinct

They didn’t play in a low block in the first half. The got plenty of men forward when attacking and were wide open at times. We just failed to capitalise through a lack of quality and a bit of mid fortune.

At one point I counted 7 of their players inside our box, that was when they were already 1 up. They did a real job on us, brave going forward, excellent off the ball, ran themselves into the ground, & resilient defensively. We couldn't match their physicality, or their energy.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 22, 2024, 10:51:49 pm
I was looking forward to Bradford, now I'm dreading it. Play like we did tonight and they will muller us by 3 or 4.

Sterry and Maxwell are both good going forward, but are suspect defensively. If crosses are allowed in for Andy Cook, we'll be in big trouble.

We badly need our forwards to perform on Saturday to get anything out of this game.
We won’t get beat by 3 or 4 if we play like that,
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Nudga on October 22, 2024, 10:54:45 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.


Well Grant McCann has just said exactly this soo is he pathetic?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: GazLaz on October 22, 2024, 10:56:18 pm
Any teams that sit in the low block we can't deal with and break down.

We need a coppinger and a marquis to break through.

Why we didn't run at the players on yellows to try and get them into a red is a mystery, again missing the killer instinct

They didn’t play in a low block in the first half. The got plenty of men forward when attacking and were wide open at times. We just failed to capitalise through a lack of quality and a bit of mid fortune.

At one point I counted 7 of their players inside our box, that was when they were already 1 up. They did a real job on us, brave going forward, excellent off the ball, ran themselves into the ground, & resilient defensively. We couldn't match their physicality, or their energy.


They sat in as the game went on but they weren’t a Harrogate or Barrow. That’s not their style.

We need to get Kelly more involved in games. He’s good but needs more touches. The midfield is just not quite right. Not having Clifton at all in games like that at home.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: GazLaz on October 22, 2024, 10:56:52 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.


Well Grant McCann has just said exactly this soo is he pathetic?

He’s trying to get a reaction out of the players. We were clearly the better team.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 22, 2024, 10:58:20 pm
He’s playing the game,
Regardless of how hard they worked,
The fact is we’ve created a lot of good situations, but the final ball and final decision cost us,
Their keeper has made 7 or 8 saves which we should’ve done better with.
But any neutral watching that game wouldn’t  be coming away saying they deserved the win,
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 22, 2024, 10:58:42 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.


Well Grant McCann has just said exactly this soo is he pathetic?

He’s trying to get a reaction out of the players. We were clearly the better team.

Exactly
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 22, 2024, 10:59:03 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.


A up here comes the little name caller. In my opinion, yes, my opinion, &  I'll say it again for you, they deserved that win tonight. They were physically better, had more energy, won most second balls, were brave going forward, throwing men in the box when they did, defended resolutely, & had a keeper who stopped everything that got behind their defence. Well deserved win for a side that play to their strengths.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Nudga on October 22, 2024, 10:59:40 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.


Well Grant McCann has just said exactly this soo is he pathetic?

He’s trying to get a reaction out of the players. We were clearly the better team.

Disagree,  we weren't better than them. We huffed and puffed for 70 minutes because of their work rate off the ball.
They passed it quicker than us too.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Filo on October 22, 2024, 11:01:54 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.

Listen to Grants post match interview, he said they deserved to win
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: TonySoprano on October 22, 2024, 11:04:28 pm
PS
Their goal summed it all up
How?

A terrific corner routine by the way.
Really caught us out.
A terrific corner routine ?? Their player had acres of space, and had the time to swing and miss, reset and have another go !
Embarrassingly bad !
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 22, 2024, 11:05:48 pm
I was looking forward to Bradford, now I'm dreading it. Play like we did tonight and they will muller us by 3 or 4.

Sterry and Maxwell are both good going forward, but are suspect defensively. If crosses are allowed in for Andy Cook, we'll be in big trouble.

We badly need our forwards to perform on Saturday to get anything out of this game.
We won’t get beat by 3 or 4 if we play like that,

You seem to be stating that as a fact, know some stuff don't you.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: TonySoprano on October 22, 2024, 11:06:34 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: monkeytennis on October 22, 2024, 11:07:30 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.


A up here comes the little name caller. In my opinion, yes, my opinion, &  I'll say it again for you, they deserved that win tonight. They were physically better, had more energy, won most second balls, were brave going forward, throwing men in the box when they did, defended resolutely, & had a keeper who stopped everything that got behind their defence. Well deserved win for a side that play to their strengths.

Not just your opinion, this is exactly what happened. Yes we can get forward and chip the ball into the box but then we’re completely ineffective with it. They had one decent chance and took it. We had what felt like a thousand chances and threw every single one away.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: mushRTID on October 22, 2024, 11:09:07 pm
I thought Bromley were good.

Didn’t sit back after going a goal up, got forward and gave it a go.

Yes they time wasted but who wouldn’t.

We just didn’t do enough.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Barmby Rover on October 22, 2024, 11:09:58 pm
Rovers could not produce any way of breaking down a defence which has left them a few places from bottom in this league. The move forwards is too slow, it is not producing the crosses that Joe and Billy can feed off, and they are not finishing at the moment. There is a ridiculous amount of talent in this squad, it is not producing the goods at the moment.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 22, 2024, 11:12:36 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Michael Shaw on October 22, 2024, 11:13:17 pm
How can anyone seriously say we were the better team when we lost at home to a team 20 places lower?
There are some stupid posts on here.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Thorney on October 22, 2024, 11:13:21 pm
Yes they deserved to win.

They came with a game plan and executed it perfectly.

We had a plan that did not work. And then just stuck with it with hit and hope balls into the box which their giant defenders moped up.


We was always gonna dominate possesion and have the more shots.
Bromley will always lose out on that side of things this season, they know that and have set the tactics to combat this.

We need to learn how to break teams down and cut through them.
So far its predictable, pass about at the back, play it across field and then try to find the player out wide who lifts it into the box.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 22, 2024, 11:14:50 pm
How can anyone seriously say we were the better team when we lost at home to a team 20 places lower?
There are some stupid posts on here.

What does the league position have to do with which team was better on the night?

Nice to see you Michael, you’ve not been here since the chesterfield game
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Thorney on October 22, 2024, 11:18:20 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.

So in saying that dickos, if we draw man city in the fa cup and they end up having 80% of the poesseion, most likely 40 shots and fail to score but we defend for our lives and crack 1 in feom a corner are you gonna take your red tinted glasses off and say we did not deserve to win??

Not every game should be judged on the stats
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: McCammon egg n chips on October 22, 2024, 11:21:10 pm
Positive: we created lots of chances
Negative: we didn't convert one of them

Bromley did what they needed to. Clever corner routine and poor defending, 1-0 is all they needed for three points.

I thought we played okay but obviously not clinical enough. Can't say we were the better team. All bark and no bite.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on October 22, 2024, 11:22:34 pm
We just lacked quality where it mattered tonight and ran out of ideas.

Byron Webster did tonight, what he did for us that night at the Blades all those years ago when we won 1-0 because they didn't have the brains or quality to break us down.

Generally, we were fine up to the final third but after that we were poor.

I think only Hurst when he came on, actually tried to hurt them. Gibson and Molyneux had no end product tonight. Alot of our deliveries into the box were poor percentage balls but even the few decent balls in, our centre forward wasn't positioned where we want him to be.

Credit to Bromley. They got a bit of luck with the goal and then defended manfully without parking the bus.


Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 22, 2024, 11:23:19 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.

So in saying that dickos, if we draw man city in the fa cup and they end up having 80% of the poesseion, most likely 40 shots and fail to score but we defend for our lives and crack 1 in feom a corner are you gonna take your red tinted glasses off and say we did not deserve to win??

Not every game should be judged on the stats

Of course!
If a team batters another team but can’t score then they were still the better team and should’ve won the game.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 22, 2024, 11:24:55 pm
We just lacked quality where it mattered tonight and ran out of ideas.

Byron Webster did tonight, what he did for us that night at the Blades all those years ago when we won 1-0 because they didn't have the brains or quality to break them down.

Generally, we were fine up to the final third but after that we were poor.

I think only Hurst when he came on, actually tried to hurt them. Gibson and Molyneux had no end product tonight. Alot of our deliveries into the box were poor percentage balls but even the few decent balls in, our centre forward wasn't positioned where we want him to be.

Credit to Bromley. They got a bit of luck with the goal and then defended manfully without parking the bus.




I think some of the balls were decent balls but we just had nobody anticipating them as grant alluded to. A bit of luck tonight also with the ball falling to them inside the 6 yard box etc
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 22, 2024, 11:25:28 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 22, 2024, 11:27:59 pm
It’s still not quite working is it. We are towards the top because we’ve got better players and a better manager than most sides, but I’d say for half the games this season we’ve not looked overly convincing. Not very consistent. Destroy some teams, stumble around others. Usually lose against dross. Hope we can start to deliver some consistency but even without this we are good.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 22, 2024, 11:33:36 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 22, 2024, 11:35:16 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 22, 2024, 11:38:39 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they did deserve their win.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: ncRover on October 22, 2024, 11:39:47 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they diddeserved their win.

Don’t bother les, he’ll just come back in a week or two’s time and say “well you look silly now don’t you!”
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Pliskin on October 22, 2024, 11:42:12 pm
We have really struggled for goals at home. Since the 4-1 against Accrington we've scored 4 goals in 6 home games.

Our first instinct is to play safe and go backwards. Our attacking play is predictable, one-paced and lacking in quality. Our deliveries into the box from out wide are particularly poor.

Bromley aren't very good. To their credit, they worked hard, they were physical, and they were organised. But they will be fighting relegation. And we couldn't find an answer to the way they set up.

It's a bit of a concern to say the least

We're still in a decent league position. But in terms of performances, we haven't looked like a convincing promotion team so far this season.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: drfchound on October 22, 2024, 11:42:37 pm
PS
Their goal summed it all up
How?

A terrific corner routine by the way.
Really caught us out.
A terrific corner routine ?? Their player had acres of space, and had the time to swing and miss, reset and have another go !
Embarrassingly bad !

You only focussing on the mis hit shot part.
They put all the big lads in our six yard box then played a low ball to the lad who came short for it.
He turned the ball directly into the path of the scorer.
Fair enough he fluffed the first attempt but because our defence was thinking about all the big lads in the box he was unmarked and had time to re set and fire a good shot into the net.
A well thought out and implicated corner routine.
To say it wasn’t is failing to understanding what actually happened.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Dagenham Rover on October 22, 2024, 11:54:50 pm
The goal was lucky, a miskick that went basically straight up and down and welly'd  in The goalkeeper played a blinder the s*tehousery falling over and time wasting in the 1st half from them was more than pathetic, with 4 7 footers across the back why the hell did we keep lofting them in even when we sent a lower ball in we couldn't get past the front post as they managed to become 3 foot tall and head it out. Yet to give credit they came out for the 2nd half the s*htehousery basically stopped and they weren't actually a bad team
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 12:03:03 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they diddeserved their win.

Don’t bother les, he’ll just come back in a week or two’s time and say “well you look silly now don’t you!”

Ha ha, you’re still going on about that! It was literally 20 mins after you said it not a week later
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 12:04:39 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.

Of course they did les!
They had the odd counter attack in the second half but other than that we’re camped inside their own half as the stats suggest.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Avsuptem on October 23, 2024, 12:05:14 am
Any one that has ever played football even at a relatively low level (like me) knows that sometimes you lose games that you deserved to win, by far, for no reason other than shite luck. Tonight was one such night. We must move on.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 12:06:20 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they did deserve their win.

If you think a side that had 35% possession, created nothing of note, conceded 22 shots on goal and time wasted from the 11th minute onwards deserved the win then good luck to you!
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 12:07:04 am
Any one that has ever played football even at a relatively low level (like me) knows that sometimes you lose games that you deserved to win, by far, for no reason other than shite luck. Tonight was one such night. We must move on.

Exactly! Someone with a bit of common sense
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Thorney on October 23, 2024, 12:17:08 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they did deserve their win.

If you think a side that had 35% possession, created nothing of note, conceded 22 shots on goal and time wasted from the 11th minute onwards deserved the win then good luck to you!

We didnt have 22 shots on goal,
We only had 8 on goal.
Having shots means nothing unless they are meaningful. Jay hit 1 from 35 yards that sailed high and wide, counts as a shot but didnt get anyone off their seats.
A team can ping them everytime they get the ball and stats will say they had 50 shots, doesnt mean they deserve to win.

Did we honestly look like we was going to rip bromley (yes bromley) apart. No. We huffed and we puffed and they said is that all you have. We would not have scored if we played another half.
Tactics need to change. We need to learn to play through defences and not rely and hope molly pulls a rabbit out of his a**e
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 12:21:20 am
By the same token, the balls that are flying across the box, that are deflecting off people and falling to the keeper, balls that are rolling across the 6 yard line don’t get counted in stats.
So yes some of those 22 shots weren’t great but the keeper made 8 saves and we had plenty of situations around the box that we should’ve done better with.
The first 10 mins yes I thought we were going to rip them apart, and if one of those early chances went in, we would have
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Thorney on October 23, 2024, 12:21:36 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.

Of course they did les!
They had the odd counter attack in the second half but other than that we’re camped inside their own half as the stats suggest.

And are you not worried that we fail on multiple times to break these teams down and then go on to lose?? You talk like the players should be applauded for that performance. Teams like harrogate and newport are singing can we play you every week.

Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 23, 2024, 12:35:24 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.

Of course they did les!
They had the odd counter attack in the second half but other than that we’re camped inside their own half as the stats suggest.

Not from the 11th minute, they had at least 2 chances after the goal to put the game to bed, one a wayward finish, & another a save from our keeper, who also made an excellent save in the second half. So no we weren't camped in their half from the 11th minute. I see you have sneeked in the 'better team' bit, nobody disputes that, but they still deserved to win the game.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Canadian Rover on October 23, 2024, 01:33:51 am
One of those games I'm afraid. Maybe time to give Kyle a run out for longer
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Move DRFC on October 23, 2024, 03:46:27 am
Is it time to give Sbarra or Hurst a proper run in the number 10 role?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 06:43:28 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.

Of course they did les!
They had the odd counter attack in the second half but other than that we’re camped inside their own half as the stats suggest.

And are you not worried that we fail on multiple times to break these teams down and then go on to lose?? You talk like the players should be applauded for that performance. Teams like harrogate and newport are singing can we play you every week.



Were joint 3rd in the table, people are going in like we’re in a relegation battle
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 06:46:13 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.

Of course they did les!
They had the odd counter attack in the second half but other than that we’re camped inside their own half as the stats suggest.

Not from the 11th minute, they had at least 2 chances after the goal to put the game to bed, one a wayward finish, & another a save from our keeper, who also made an excellent save in the second half. So no we weren't camped in their half from the 11th minute. I see you have sneeked in the 'better team' bit, nobody disputes that, but they still deserved to win the game.

More nonsense.
Of course they were camped in their own half and of course they time wasted for most of the game.
Yes they hit us on the break a couple of times but that’s expected if we’ve got so many players forward.

Literally every time the keeper got the ball he time wasted, everytime they got a throw in they time wasted. If that means they deserved to win then as I keep saying your view on football is very different to mine
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: mushRTID on October 23, 2024, 06:59:06 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.

Of course they did les!
They had the odd counter attack in the second half but other than that we’re camped inside their own half as the stats suggest.

And are you not worried that we fail on multiple times to break these teams down and then go on to lose?? You talk like the players should be applauded for that performance. Teams like harrogate and newport are singing can we play you every week.



Were joint 3rd in the table, people are going in like we’re in a relegation battle

Let’s be honest. Absolutely nobody is going on like we’re in a relegation battle.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: ncRover on October 23, 2024, 07:13:21 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they diddeserved their win.

Don’t bother les, he’ll just come back in a week or two’s time and say “well you look silly now don’t you!”

Ha ha, you’re still going on about that! It was literally 20 mins after you said it not a week later

Annoys me how people misuse literally nowadays.

It was a week later and my opinion on that thread doesn’t sound a million miles away from McCann’s football heaven interview, does it? He mentions the last “3 or 4 games” and is a lot harsher than I was.

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292331.msg1344752#msg1344752

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jzh8q7



Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: In the box on October 23, 2024, 07:23:00 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Take the blinkers off .. we were awful and referee just added to our frustration with his blow up for anything and everything . But Chesterfield were up for derby game and we just got rolled over . But the opposite against Bromley where we dominated most of the game but we were just unlucky and possibly not ruthless in front of of goal and it’s this that becoming worrying in matches now .
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: colincramb on October 23, 2024, 07:38:59 am
We had a lot of the ball but aside from the first 25 mins, where their keeper made some excellent saves, we continued to make the same mistakes time and time again. Our build up play was slow and predictable and we ran out of ideas. Hurst getting in behind and the cross that ran across the 6 yard line was the only time we used our brains in the second half and both nearly led to a goal. Other than that it was mis-hit crosses out of play or to the first man, or aimless swung/chipped crosses the the keeper.

I thought Molly had a shocker. Looked like rudderless ship in the second half and far too predictable. Two mis-hit corners in 30secs summed his night up. Needs to be better.

Right now, my gut instinct is there might be 3 teams better than us over the course of a season. We have been far from convincing at home and don’t look like scoring a lot of goals or look like we can break teams down (we got away with it against Crewe a few weeks back as well).

Lots of work to do. But not convinced this group has what it takes yet. We will see
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: NickDRFC on October 23, 2024, 07:44:12 am
If we don’t win on Tuesday night I will show my bare bum in the window of the club shop after the game.

Please check with the shops staff with regards to framed photo prices.



Every cloud and all that.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: sf9944 on October 23, 2024, 07:50:51 am
Why does everything have to be so black and white?!  Is it not possible for them to have deserved their win AND for us to have been the better side? 

Yes they deserved to win because they executed their game plan excellently and then fought like tigers to defend their lead.  I was impressed with their resilience, fitness and sheer determination. They had some decent players and some of their passing was impressive

That said Rovers were clearly the better of the two teams and could have had three or four in the first ten minutes alone. We are creating so many chances (see the xG stats) but as on Saturday we are struggling to convert them. We've all seen this sort of thing before, it's football! I think it will come but we might have a few more frustrating games like this one.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 08:03:09 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.

Of course they did les!
They had the odd counter attack in the second half but other than that we’re camped inside their own half as the stats suggest.

And are you not worried that we fail on multiple times to break these teams down and then go on to lose?? You talk like the players should be applauded for that performance. Teams like harrogate and newport are singing can we play you every week.



Were joint 3rd in the table, people are going in like we’re in a relegation battle

Let’s be honest. Absolutely nobody is going on like we’re in a relegation battle.

The level of negativity on here after every single defeat is amazing. Folk need to look at the bigger picture and realise that over a 46 game period we aren’t going to win them all
We’ve started this season better than we have in a long time but you wouldn’t think it reading this forum
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 08:08:48 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they diddeserved their win.

Don’t bother les, he’ll just come back in a week or two’s time and say “well you look silly now don’t you!”

Ha ha, you’re still going on about that! It was literally 20 mins after you said it not a week later

Annoys me how people misuse literally nowadays.

It was a week later and my opinion on that thread doesn’t sound a million miles away from McCann’s football heaven interview, does it? He mentions the last “3 or 4 games” and is a lot harsher than I was.

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292331.msg1344752#msg1344752

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jzh8q7





I thought you were talking about Saturday when you were slagging off McCanns substitutions prematurely, the problem is there are that many negative posts from you
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on October 23, 2024, 08:22:07 am
We got beat by a bunch of non-league cloggers last night. Were we the better team? Doesn't really matter, they had more than us where it counted and we lose to that type of opposition yet again. If we have ambitions of winning the league then we need to find a way to break that type of team down.

Hurst the bright spot when he came on, needs more minutes - he was taking men on and making things happen in the way none of the lads were before. Otherwise the rest of the lads need to chalk that up as a bad day at the office.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 23, 2024, 08:36:00 am
I'm still very frustrated this morning. We should not have lost that game. The positive is we are continually creating but I really worry about our difficulties against the teams setting up really defensively.

Ironically Bradford may help us on Saturday, I doubt they'll sit in.  But I worry we may need another forward.  Surely we needed Sbarra as an option last night?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: vaya on October 23, 2024, 08:41:26 am
If we don’t win on Tuesday night I will show my bare bum in the window of the club shop after the game.

Please check with the shops staff with regards to framed photo prices.



Every cloud and all that.

"I'd like to return this photo, there's a crack in the frame"
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: ncRover on October 23, 2024, 08:52:21 am
No Fleming in the squad for the last 2 games?

That’s a loan spot that needs freeing up.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 23, 2024, 09:09:28 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they did deserve their win.

If you think a side that had 35% possession, created nothing of note, conceded 22 shots on goal and time wasted from the 11th minute onwards deserved the win then good luck to you!

Think your confusing 'stats' & 'deserving to win the game', as reiterated by our manager.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 23, 2024, 09:11:15 am
We aren’t likely to go on a ten game winning run in our lifetimes again but stringing a few wins or at least few consistently excellent performances together would make a big difference to momentum. It’s a great squad and we have a great manager and he’s worked out plans B and C with formation changes yet we haven’t got yet into consistent form. It’s only mid-October but I hope we can do this sooner rather than later especially given there is barely anyone unavailable in the squad.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Pancho Regan on October 23, 2024, 10:00:09 am
Sideways sideways don't shoot, sideways backwards sideways don't shoot. It's like a passing drill from one wing to the other with 4 players touching it as it goes across. It's so easy to defend against

Err..... we had TWENTY-TWO shots. 8 of which were on target.
Their keeper had the game of his life.

These games happen.
We didn't play badly, we tried different ways to find a goal and if we had equalised before half time, we'd have gone on to win it in my opinion.
I heard complaints around me last night such as "Why do we keep playing high balls into the box when they have massive defenders?" and "Why do we keep trying to pass the ball into the bloody net?!"
You can't have it both ways.

A frustrating night but we move on.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: TonySoprano on October 23, 2024, 11:31:56 am
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Then your even more clueless than I thought before .
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 05:05:42 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they did deserve their win.

If you think a side that had 35% possession, created nothing of note, conceded 22 shots on goal and time wasted from the 11th minute onwards deserved the win then good luck to you!

Think your confusing 'stats' & 'deserving to win the game', as reiterated by our manager.

If working hard means you deserve to win the game then we need to rewrite the coaching manual.
It’s not only stats either it’s the naked eye, only people looking at it with the constant negative eye could watch that and think they deserved to win.
We were the better team by a mile but couldn’t score,
McCann is obviously trying to get a reaction, let’s hope it works
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 05:06:19 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Then your even more clueless than I thought before .


I reckon that’s a compliment coming from a complete muppet like yourself
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 05:07:37 pm
No Fleming in the squad for the last 2 games?

That’s a loan spot that needs freeing up.

Not really, McCann only ever has one defender on the bench. Hence why Nixon was mostly not in the squad last season. If you look back players frequently go from not being in the squad to the starting line up
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 23, 2024, 05:45:52 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they did deserve their win.

If you think a side that had 35% possession, created nothing of note, conceded 22 shots on goal and time wasted from the 11th minute onwards deserved the win then good luck to you!

Think your confusing 'stats' & 'deserving to win the game', as reiterated by our manager.
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they diddeserved their win.

Don’t bother les, he’ll just come back in a week or two’s time and say “well you look silly now don’t you!”

Ha ha, you’re still going on about that! It was literally 20 mins after you said it not a week later

Annoys me how people misuse literally nowadays.

It was a week later and my opinion on that thread doesn’t sound a million miles away from McCann’s football heaven interview, does it? He mentions the last “3 or 4 games” and is a lot harsher than I was.

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292331.msg1344752#msg1344752

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jzh8q7





I thought you were talking about Saturday when you were slagging off McCanns substitutions prematurely, the problem is there are that many negative posts from you

There it is, I was wondering how long it would be before your seemingly favourite word in the dictionary 'negative' was thrown in, & low & behold there it is. So predictable.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: hoolahoop on October 23, 2024, 06:09:58 pm
If we don’t win on Tuesday night I will show my bare bum in the window of the club shop after the game.

Please check with the shops staff with regards to framed photo prices.



Well did you ?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 23, 2024, 06:20:19 pm
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they did deserve their win.

If you think a side that had 35% possession, created nothing of note, conceded 22 shots on goal and time wasted from the 11th minute onwards deserved the win then good luck to you!

Think your confusing 'stats' & 'deserving to win the game', as reiterated by our manager.
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they diddeserved their win.

Don’t bother les, he’ll just come back in a week or two’s time and say “well you look silly now don’t you!”

Ha ha, you’re still going on about that! It was literally 20 mins after you said it not a week later

Annoys me how people misuse literally nowadays.

It was a week later and my opinion on that thread doesn’t sound a million miles away from McCann’s football heaven interview, does it? He mentions the last “3 or 4 games” and is a lot harsher than I was.

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292331.msg1344752#msg1344752

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jzh8q7





I thought you were talking about Saturday when you were slagging off McCanns substitutions prematurely, the problem is there are that many negative posts from you

There it is, I was wondering how long it would be before your favourite word in the dictionary 'negative' was thrown in, & low & behold there it is.
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.

Of course they did les!
They had the odd counter attack in the second half but other than that we’re camped inside their own half as the stats suggest.

And are you not worried that we fail on multiple times to break these teams down and then go on to lose?? You talk like the players should be applauded for that performance. Teams like harrogate and newport are singing can we play you every week.



Were joint 3rd in the table, people are going in like we’re in a relegation battle

Let’s be honest. Absolutely nobody is going on like we’re in a relegation battle.

The level of negativity on here after every single defeat is amazing. Folk need to look at the bigger picture and realise that over a 46 game period we aren’t going to win them all
We’ve started this season better than we have in a long time but you wouldn’t think it reading this forum

Here we go again, when the debate doesn't
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

They weren't 'hanging on' from the 11th minute though were they, in fact they looked like on more than one occasion like adding a second.

Of course they did les!
They had the odd counter attack in the second half but other than that we’re camped inside their own half as the stats suggest.

And are you not worried that we fail on multiple times to break these teams down and then go on to lose?? You talk like the players should be applauded for that performance. Teams like harrogate and newport are singing can we play you every week.



Were joint 3rd in the table, people are going in like we’re in a relegation battle

They're really not though are they, maybe just in your head?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 23, 2024, 06:30:18 pm
By the same token, the balls that are flying across the box, that are deflecting off people and falling to the keeper, balls that are rolling across the 6 yard line don’t get counted in stats.
So yes some of those 22 shots weren’t great but the keeper made 8 saves and we had plenty of situations around the box that we should’ve done better with.
The first 10 mins yes I thought we were going to rip them apart, and if one of those early chances went in, we would have

Where were you when they were bombing forward with intent at 1-0 ahead with 6 & 7 players in the box.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 23, 2024, 06:42:18 pm
By the same token, the balls that are flying across the box, that are deflecting off people and falling to the keeper, balls that are rolling across the 6 yard line don’t get counted in stats.
So yes some of those 22 shots weren’t great but the keeper made 8 saves and we had plenty of situations around the box that we should’ve done better with.
The first 10 mins yes I thought we were going to rip them apart, and if one of those early chances went in, we would have

Where were you when they were bombing forward with intent at 1-0 ahead with 6 & 7 players in the box.
As in the Chesterfield game, we were outwitted, outfought, hardly picked up any second balls, far inferior physically, apart from McGrath. They were more energetic & fought for every single ball, fair play they deserved their win. For us, we look like a play off team more than a top 3 side in my opinion.

What a ridiculous post, how anyone could watch that game and say they deserved their win is pathetic.
Is your head that far up your arse that you don't think bromley deserved the  win ?
Do you not agree with mcann when he said the same ?

We were camped in their half for almost all the game, we had 22 shots, 65% possession, created a number of situations that should of lead to goals and we could’ve scored 5 or 6.
They time wasted from the 11th minute because they knew they were hanging on.
So yes they worked hard, yes they pressed well, yes they defended well, but in no way did they deserve to win the game.
Should have.

Yes should have!
But didn’t which is why we lost, not because they were the better team or deserved the win
Don't understand your second line at all, doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they did deserve their win.

If you think a side that had 35% possession, created nothing of note, conceded 22 shots on goal and time wasted from the 11th minute onwards deserved the win then good luck to you!

Think your confusing 'stats' & 'deserving to win the game', as reiterated by our manager.

If working hard means you deserve to win the game then we need to rewrite the coaching manual.
It’s not only stats either it’s the naked eye, only people looking at it with the constant negative eye could watch that and think they deserved to win.
We were the better team by a mile but couldn’t score,
McCann is obviously trying to get a reaction, let’s hope it works

Nothing to do with getting a reaction, he's just telling the truth. Negative eye? Can I suggest you watch the game again? What Bromley lacked in ability they made up for in spades for hunger, physicality, mentality, being brave going forward in numbers, defending well, & outthinking us. They deserved their win
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: i_ateallthepies on October 23, 2024, 06:58:51 pm

If working hard means you deserve to win the game then we need to rewrite the coaching manual.
It’s not only stats either it’s the naked eye, only people looking at it with the constant negative eye could watch that and think they deserved to win.
We were the better team by a mile but couldn’t score,
McCann is obviously trying to get a reaction, let’s hope it works

So, if Rovers were the better team by a mile but couldn't score, we only couldn't score because Bromley worked their nuts off, played to a plan AND SCORED A GOAL, doesn't that equate to deserving to win?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 23, 2024, 07:10:40 pm
He’s playing the game,
Regardless of how hard they worked,
The fact is we’ve created a lot of good situations, but the final ball and final decision cost us,
Their keeper has made 7 or 8 saves which we should’ve done better with.
But any neutral watching that game wouldn’t  be coming away saying they deserved the win,

So just our fans & manager thought they deserved the win? These neutrals eh.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 23, 2024, 07:34:05 pm
Ridiculous, pathetic, negative, muppet, etc, blah blah blah. Really good debatable words.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: ncRover on October 23, 2024, 09:16:35 pm
No Fleming in the squad for the last 2 games?

That’s a loan spot that needs freeing up.

Not really, McCann only ever has one defender on the bench. Hence why Nixon was mostly not in the squad last season. If you look back players frequently go from not being in the squad to the starting line up

Why would Rovers, Hull City and Brandon Fleming want to waste a loan where he’s not even getting in the matchday squad?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 10:59:07 pm
No Fleming in the squad for the last 2 games?

That’s a loan spot that needs freeing up.

Not really, McCann only ever has one defender on the bench. Hence why Nixon was mostly not in the squad last season. If you look back players frequently go from not being in the squad to the starting line up

Why would Rovers, Hull City and Brandon Fleming want to waste a loan where he’s not even getting in the matchday squad?

Why did rovers, hull city and Tom Nixon do exactly the same last season?
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 11:00:42 pm

If working hard means you deserve to win the game then we need to rewrite the coaching manual.
It’s not only stats either it’s the naked eye, only people looking at it with the constant negative eye could watch that and think they deserved to win.
We were the better team by a mile but couldn’t score,
McCann is obviously trying to get a reaction, let’s hope it works

So, if Rovers were the better team by a mile but couldn't score, we only couldn't score because Bromley worked their nuts off, played to a plan AND SCORED A GOAL, doesn't that equate to deserving to win?

Nope we couldn’t score because we made poor final decisions, lacked a desire to score and on occasions were downright unlucky!
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: dickos1 on October 23, 2024, 11:02:16 pm
By the same token, the balls that are flying across the box, that are deflecting off people and falling to the keeper, balls that are rolling across the 6 yard line don’t get counted in stats.
So yes some of those 22 shots weren’t great but the keeper made 8 saves and we had plenty of situations around the box that we should’ve done better with.
The first 10 mins yes I thought we were going to rip them apart, and if one of those early chances went in, we would have

Where were you when they were bombing forward with intent at 1-0 ahead with 6 & 7 players in the box.

I think you’ve had a few beers too many tonight les, I’ve no idea what you’re waffling on about.
But have a read of Billy’s thoughts on last night. He sums it up beautifully.
Although I see you’re not jumping down his throat for having a similar view to me
Funny that
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Usher wide. on October 23, 2024, 11:30:32 pm
If we don’t win on Tuesday night I will show my bare bum in the window of the club shop after the game.

Please check with the shops staff with regards to framed photo prices.



Well did you ?

I walked sheepishly around to the shop hoolahoop only to find there were eighteen blokes in front of me undoing their trouser belts.

Worried in case it was some ‘pre Masonic group acceptance investiture ship’ I had inadvertently stumbled across (the lights being a strange dim lit fashion with only one spotlight illuminating a space in front of the red changing room curtain) I have to hold my hands up & say “no my friend, I didn’t”, & although I realise I have renegade on a promise so clearly looked forward to by many a supporter (& I have to say many of the paparazzi who seemed for whatever reason to be there in their droves), I hope you will accept my ‘non appearance’ in good faith.

Until the next time.
Title: Re: :Let's talk about the Bromley game
Post by: Lesonthewest on October 24, 2024, 08:24:54 pm
By the same token, the balls that are flying across the box, that are deflecting off people and falling to the keeper, balls that are rolling across the 6 yard line don’t get counted in stats.
So yes some of those 22 shots weren’t great but the keeper made 8 saves and we had plenty of situations around the box that we should’ve done better with.
The first 10 mins yes I thought we were going to rip them apart, and if one of those early chances went in, we would have

Where were you when they were bombing forward with intent at 1-0 ahead with 6 & 7 players in the box.

I think you’ve had a few beers too many tonight les, I’ve no idea what you’re waffling on about.
But have a read of Billy’s thoughts on last night. He sums it up beautifully.
Although I see you’re not jumping down his throat for having a similar view to me
Funny that

I was stone cold sober I'm afraid, I'm not jumping down anyone's throat, if you dish out the petty insults you surely must be able take some comments back, Billy as everyone else are entitled to their opinions, but he like most others don't resort to petty name calling as you do. Also if I did disagree with Billy or anyone else & I felt the need to post then I would.

As I said if you watch the game back, they overloaded our box getting forward on several occasions, were you at the bar at these times.