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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Branton Rover on November 01, 2024, 06:56:28 pm
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It’s all done and dusted on the day. Extra time then penalties. The bloody FA should hang their heads in shame. When I was a lad getting an away draw especially at a ground which wasn’t that accessible meant a replay and extra revenue.
It’s the FA Cup ffs not the Premier League trophy. Once again the so called powers that be have buckled and succumbed to the bloody foreign influence. Isn’t it sad that the FA have no backbone, they should have said “it’s our competition and we run it for the good of the game as a whole not just the big boys money men.
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Branston - you're not alone
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30 (https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30)
Reply number 31
Oh Lord.. Sorry. It's just a link to another thread on here. Don't know why it goes all microscopic on me... Apologies
BobG
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Branston - you're not alone
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30 (https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30)
Reply number 31
Oh Lord.. Sorry. It's just a link to another thread on here. Don't know why it goes all microscopic on me... Apologies
BobG
Looks like you got yourself in a pickle there, Bob.
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Branston - you're not alone
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30 (https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30)
Reply number 31
Oh Lord.. Sorry. It's just a link to another thread on here. Don't know why it goes all microscopic on me... Apologies
BobG
If it goes a bit microscopic on you, I’d give the Doc a call.
It’ll be alright I’m sure.
Perhaps I’m the only one, but a finish with ET and possible Pelanties, rather than a Barrow at home replay on a November night with 2,900 hardy souls feels somewhat very appealing.
Also as a thought what attendance is required for both clubs to break even?, I would have thought a replay would probably lose us money unless 4+ thousand turn up. With all these TV deals Sky and other TV companies may dare I say it be paying us a decent wodge.
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Branston - you're not alone
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30 (https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30)
Reply number 31
Oh Lord.. Sorry. It's just a link to another thread on here. Don't know why it goes all microscopic on me... Apologies
BobG
If it goes a bit microscopic on you, I’d give the Doc a call.
It’ll be alright I’m sure.
Perhaps I’m the only one, but a finish with ET and possible Pelanties, rather than a Barrow at home replay on a November night with 2,900 hardy souls feels somewhat very appealing.
Also as a thought what attendance is required for both clubs to break even?, I would have thought a replay would probably lose us money unless 4+ thousand turn up. With all these TV deals Sky and other TV companies may dare I say it be paying us a decent wodge.
At the end of that last sentence, RIS, I thought I was into an episode of "Allo, Allo".
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Branston - you're not alone
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30 (https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292596.30)
Reply number 31
Oh Lord.. Sorry. It's just a link to another thread on here. Don't know why it goes all microscopic on me... Apologies
BobG
If it goes a bit microscopic on you, I’d give the Doc a call.
It’ll be alright I’m sure.
Perhaps I’m the only one, but a finish with ET and possible Pelanties, rather than a Barrow at home replay on a November night with 2,900 hardy souls feels somewhat very appealing.
Also as a thought what attendance is required for both clubs to break even?, I would have thought a replay would probably lose us money unless 4+ thousand turn up. With all these TV deals Sky and other TV companies may dare I say it be paying us a decent wodge.
At the end of that last sentence, RIS, I thought I was into an episode of "Allo, Allo".
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Oops. I'm sorry Branton! And Redwine, you made me laugh
BobG
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It’s the change in weather Bob (well in the UK) keep blaming that lol
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Another strand of English football's DNA stripped away. I remember reading about this and I've since forgotten about it. A really, really disappointing decision by the FA, EFL and Premier League, presuming they were the main decision makers.
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It is really sad the way the FACup has been treated over the last few years.
For me it has always been a highlight of the football season, even playing in the qualifying rounds all those years ago it was always a big thing.
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Do we still hold the record for the longest FA Cup tie v Stockport? Was it 5 matches??
Was it stripping away the tradition when FA Cup ties were then limited to one replay?
Whilst I'm a traditionalist, I think an element of common sense has to prevail and I can't see there are many ties in each round where replays become lucrative, when you factor in additional costs etc, as suggested above, plus a potential fixture pile up if you get through.
When was the last time we earned a replay against a big club? Liverpool nearly 50 years ago?
We love the romance of the FA Cup and much of that still comes from the luck of the draw. (How revenue is distributed is another question)
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Do we still hold the record for the longest FA Cup tie v Stockport? Was it 5 matches??
Was it stripping away the tradition when FA Cup ties were then limited to one replay?
Whilst I'm a traditionalist, I think an element of common sense has to prevail and I can't see there are many ties in each round where replays become lucrative, when you factor in additional costs etc, as suggested above, plus a potential fixture pile up if you get through.
When was the last time we earned a replay against a big club? Liverpool nearly 50 years ago?
We love the romance of the FA Cup and much of that still comes from the luck of the draw. (How revenue is distributed is another question)
Aston Villa, 2010 (ish?) if you can call them a big club..
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I think this really hits home in the 3rd when the Premiership clubs join the competition. Imagine we drew Man Utd at home & it was 0-0 after 90 minutes. Instead of us going to Old Trafford for the replay with all that such a fixture would bring to the club, gate revenue, tv monies, a trip for the fans & players to an iconic stadium, instead penalties at the eco.
The only ‘people’ it’s ‘fair’ on are those at Man Utd. Unless of course we win on penalties!
For the FA to have allowed this to have been brought in so that the Premiership teams didn’t have too many games to play during the season because of all the extra, mundane European football competitions that have sprung up for them to play where the ‘bigger money’ lies (because of coarse Newcastle United need that money more than Rovers) stinks.
Then 4 days after last season finished ‘they all’ p**s off to America, Saudi, China & the Far East to play in numpty knock out competitions to make even more money yer playing MORE games!
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Do we still hold the record for the longest FA Cup tie v Stockport? Was it 5 matches??
Was it stripping away the tradition when FA Cup ties were then limited to one replay?
Whilst I'm a traditionalist, I think an element of common sense has to prevail and I can't see there are many ties in each round where replays become lucrative, when you factor in additional costs etc, as suggested above, plus a potential fixture pile up if you get through.
When was the last time we earned a replay against a big club? Liverpool nearly 50 years ago?
We love the romance of the FA Cup and much of that still comes from the luck of the draw. (How revenue is distributed is another question)
Aston Villa, 2010 (ish?) if you can call them a big club..
Good call. So twice in 50 years when a replay was advantageous to us. More often than not, replays are a pain in the arse, let's be honest, paricularly in the early rounds.
Is it really about prestige or the money in rounds one and two?
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Exeter got Old Trafford a few tears ago didn't they? Wasn't that a replay? Ii remember them saying at the time that it obliterated their debt.
BobG
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It was always the thing wasn't it. The 3rd round, you'd pull a big club away. There would be schoolboys with cardboard FA Cups wrapped in tin foil, shops would have special displays, minor celebs would profess a lifelong affinity with DRFC and you'd draw 2-2.
Come back to Belle Vue in the replay and get battered
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I think this really hits home in the 3rd when the Premiership clubs join the competition. Imagine we drew Man Utd at home & it was 0-0 after 90 minutes. Instead of us going to Old Trafford for the replay with all that such a fixture would bring to the club, gate revenue, tv monies, a trip for the fans & players to an iconic stadium, instead penalties at the eco.
The only ‘people’ it’s ‘fair’ on are those at Man Utd. Unless of course we win on penalties!
For the FA to have allowed this to have been brought in so that the Premiership teams didn’t have too many games to play during the season because of all the extra, mundane European football competitions that have sprung up for them to play where the ‘bigger money’ lies (because of coarse Newcastle United need that money more than Rovers) stinks.
Then 4 days after last season finished ‘they all’ p**s off to America, Saudi, China & the Far East to play in numpty knock out competitions to make even more money yer playing MORE games!
This in spades, money for the big clubs is king, they moan about the amount of fixtures but still go on pre season tours to the far east
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Do we still hold the record for the longest FA Cup tie v Stockport? Was it 5 matches??
Was it stripping away the tradition when FA Cup ties were then limited to one replay?
Whilst I'm a traditionalist, I think an element of common sense has to prevail and I can't see there are many ties in each round where replays become lucrative, when you factor in additional costs etc, as suggested above, plus a potential fixture pile up if you get through.
When was the last time we earned a replay against a big club? Liverpool nearly 50 years ago?
We love the romance of the FA Cup and much of that still comes from the luck of the draw. (How revenue is distributed is another question)
I think common sense prevailed not having 4 or 5 replays. A maximum of two games and then extra time and penalties was the sweet spot. I totally get the fixture congestion argument, particularly for larger PL clubs. You could say we've been generally unlucky over the years with the draws we've had. Another similar sized club to us could probably demonstrate numerous situations in the last 50 years where they've benefited from the replay format.
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There was also the chance for potential tv monies and extra advertising and sponsorship for the replays.
If Man Untied had lost a penalty shoot out to Crystal Palace rather than winning a replay Alex Ferguson would probably have got the boot and where would that have left the glory years for them.
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Great news to hear. Completely forgot about this. Nobody can be arsed with a replay against Barrow. Glad we're getting a result today
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To add to this, Man United pulled out of the FA cup to go on a tour of somewhere in the far east which was way out of order imo.
Bob G. The game you are thinking of is the first game against Exeter, the match at OT finished 0-0 and United won the replay down there 2-0. Exeter beat us in the previous round if I remember and I was gutted when the Man U v Exeter tie was drawn.
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To add to this, Man United pulled out of the FA cup to go on a tour of somewhere in the far east which was way out of order imo.
Bob G. The game you are thinking of is the first game against Exeter, the match at OT finished 0-0 and United won the replay down there 2-0. Exeter beat us in the previous round if I remember and I was gutted when the Man U v Exeter tie was drawn.
It was South America where they had a short lived competition. You do wonder if ligging on a warm beach for a week or two helped them win the title that season.
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Fair enough idler, I know they jetted off somewhere because Fergie wanted to pull the club out of the cup
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Do we still hold the record for the longest FA Cup tie v Stockport? Was it 5 matches??
Was it stripping away the tradition when FA Cup ties were then limited to one replay?
Whilst I'm a traditionalist, I think an element of common sense has to prevail and I can't see there are many ties in each round where replays become lucrative, when you factor in additional costs etc, as suggested above, plus a potential fixture pile up if you get through.
When was the last time we earned a replay against a big club? Liverpool nearly 50 years ago?
We love the romance of the FA Cup and much of that still comes from the luck of the draw. (How revenue is distributed is another question)
Aston Villa, 2010 (ish?) if you can call them a big club..
The Stockport County record game was the one which would be played to a conclusive result, but bad light stopped play and it was still a draw!
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The BBC are pathetic for choosing Wrexham v Harrogate as a televised game as well.
So many non-league clubs they could have given exposure to but no lets fawn over Hollywood owners again because that’s all the casual viewer could possibly find interesting about the lower leagues.