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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on November 09, 2024, 05:23:00 pm
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A great advert for L2, we dominated them from 35 mins onwards, probably deserved to win it, Ironside over Sharp for me and Hurst over Clifton, playing Gibson out on the left, makes us much more potent
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I’d just like us to show that intensity and desire from the off ! It seems to me that we play so, so much better when we’re under the cosh and chasing games ! Penno was stuck on though.
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Struggled a bit in first half but second half totally dominated them. Our finishing still needs work but we were all over them for at least half an hour. Truly superb header from Ironside. Overall a fantastic 90 minutes.
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I don’t know how the ref can’t give a penalty there. It’s required no thought. And a red card too.
Baffling.
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A great advert for L2, we dominated them from 35 mins onwards, probably deserved to win it, Ironside over Sharp for me and Hurst over Clifton, playing Gibson out on the left, makes us much more potent
Agreed. Hurst is so much better playing behind the front man. Ironside deserves a run in the team now. Mols should have gone down, but it was still a pen. Kelly outstanding. Olowu and Jay very good too.
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Some baffling decisions from the ref, the most blatant penalty/red card I’ve seen this season. The player holding his head in the box and the ref giving the ball to the keeper????
Despite the time wasting a great game (well second half)
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I don’t know how the ref can’t give a penalty there. It’s required no thought. And a red card too.
Baffling.
Can only think he's said you had the advantage, which is questionable. But looked a pen to me.
Shape when Hurst went in the middle was much better. It's odd how Hurst is pretty poor in first halves but brilliant in the second.
It's a good point really, but still do feel we should have won with a better final ball. Both goals good crosses and headers though. Sometimes you have to praise the opposition and their striker was excellent, he won't be there long.
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View on their forum was that they got away with one on the pen
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Enjoyed the game, thought they were decent - tidy on the ball and worked it well and they had the first half, second half we were much better and if we'd have had more than the measly 3 mins injury time we might have gone on and won it.
My one complaint today was Moly staying on when he was having a stinker, he's excellent for us but everyone has an off day, I thought Grant should have left Sharp on with Ironside in the 10, and Hurst and Gibson out wide, who both had the beating of their men second half.
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A game of 2 halves, definately. We couldn’t lay a glove on them for half an hour, but we slowly wrestled our way back into it. Second half - we dominated for long periods, but we are so wasteful with crosses and shooting. We need another option up top, come January.
Game we could have won but we could have lost as well, do draw probably about right.
Penalty was a no brain’er but the ref bottled it, big time. That was the winning moment right there!
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Yes, a miserly three minutes and then didn't add any additional after booking their player for time wasting in that added time.
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Penalty for Rovers for holding in both halves. One on Mcgrath in the 1st, one on Moly in the 2nd. A ref not interested in making any decisions.
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Officials generally pretty good today.
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I don’t know how the ref can’t give a penalty there. It’s required no thought. And a red card too.
Baffling.
Can only think he's said you had the advantage, which is questionable. But looked a pen to me.
Shape when Hurst went in the middle was much better. It's odd how Hurst is pretty poor in first halves but brilliant in the second.
It's a good point really, but still do feel we should have won with a better final ball. Both goals good crosses and headers though. Sometimes you have to praise the opposition and their striker was excellent, he won't be there long.
The ref can allow play to continue if he is trying to play advantage but when that advantage is not realised he can then give a free kick (in this case a penalty).
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Without getting too boring talking about tactics, they are great at possession and counter pressing. That makes them a real threat at 0-0 against most teams when they are on the front foot. As soon as the game state forces them to drop deeper into more of a low block, protecting leads etc, they looked woeful. Massive drop off.
Looked a penalty to me. Certainly impeded Moly.
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A great, entertaining game of football. The Notts County goal was a thing of footballing beauty.
Cast iron penalty on Molyneux aside Rovers really should have won that game in the second half.
So many missed chances and poor decision making at the crucial moments.
Need to be more clinical at home where we simply don't score enough goals.
That said thoroughly enjoyed the game and the second half performance was excellent.
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Thought it was just short of a penalty. 95pc of way there but not absolute stonewall.
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Very enjoyable watch. They look a very decent side and starting to gel. After seeing the replay of the incident at the end a few times,9/10 ! Pen would be given.
Kelly seemed to come of age today
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Without getting too boring talking about tactics, they are great at possession and counter pressing. That makes them a real threat at 0-0 against most teams when they are on the front foot. As soon as the game state forces them to drop deeper into more of a low block, protecting leads etc, they looked woeful. Massive drop off.
Looked a penalty to me. Certainly impeded Moly.
Fully agree with that, we said similar at the game. Reminded me a little of our side, good on the counter. Just thought their goal was a good goal really.
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A great, entertaining game of football. The Notts County goal was a thing of footballing beauty.
Cast iron penalty on Molyneux aside Rovers really should have won that game in the second half.
So many missed chances and poor decision making at the crucial moments.
Need to be more clinical at home where we simply don't score enough goals.
That said thoroughly enjoyed the game and the second half performance was excellent.
Fully agree, great game to watch which would of been even better if they had not got away with the time wasting and the ref had got a grip early on with their professional tactics all over the pitch. The first half extra time did not even cover the length of time waiting for the flare to go out, really rank poor from the official.
Thought the Mols penalty shout should be given 99 times out of 100 but this ref was very fussy with his interpretation of the laws.
What i would like to see them do is calm the fu*k down when in good attacking positions, we really flap too much when we have created solid chances, we needs to have the smarts to be able to convert, if one of the very many had been converted we win that match. Shame because we were playing a very good side, when we finally adjusted our shape and managed to nullify them we should of gone on to finish the game off.
Calm heads wins matches, we need to work at it.
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Thought it was just short of a penalty. 95pc of way there but not absolute stonewall.
Wait till you see it on video. Their defender was holding Mols back the whole way and pulled him down as he was getting his shot away. DOGSO.
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I enjoyed that. The only disappointment for me was the 9 corners and not one decent delivery. Why not give Sterry a go, he can deliver a good ball.
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I enjoyed that. The only disappointment for me was the 9 corners and not one decent delivery. Why not give Sterry a go, he can deliver a good ball.
They weren’t all bad. We did a great corner routine in the second half and landed the ball on JM’s head.
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Great game, good advert for L2, I still believe that it was 2 points lost.
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View on their forum was that they got away with one on the pen
That should be the Pens as how the Clown did NOT give one in first half when bloke had both arms around McGrath and threw him to the floor was ( at the time ) his worst mistake of the game
However he didn't have to wait long to eclipse that with the Moly penalty
There was an EFL official in Press Box with Maps of pitch and lists of players etc. I hope it was Referees Assessor and he demands to know how Notts County score and make no move to go back to half way , and then we waited for a Flare to burn out and then the stupid @@@@ gives added time of 2 minutes wtf was that all about.
The ball was barely in play in that 2 minutes and he blew EXACTLY on 47 minutes :turd: :turd: :turd:
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A great game. We need better finishing and decision making in and around the opposition box.
Fair play to Notts County, they had some lovely passages of football.
One nil up with a corner and they had every outfield player in or on the edge of the box.
Really enjoyed the whole 90mins even the first 25 when they were on top.
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Great game, good advert for L2, I still believe that it was 2 points lost.
I watched the game on my laptop and it appeared to be the worst game I have ever seen.
The delivery was working in fits and starts. I would be watching a move but then it jumped on, so I never saw the build up,it was very frustrating.
Did anyone else have the same problem?
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Fantastic game to watch. We gave them too much time in the first half. That being said, the cross for the header was a worldie. I was sat in line of it. The second half we were outstanding 1-11. Joe made a difference when he came on. Fair play to Moly for not going down when dragged back. VAR would have over ruled it. Well done Rovers, though excellent performance.
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I don’t know how the ref can’t give a penalty there. It’s required no thought. And a red card too.
Baffling.
For me the reason the ref didn’t give a pen on Molyneux was because through out the entire game he didn’t succumb to footballers receiving a pass and buying (actually NO, cheating a foul) as the opponent gets in close behind them. Even when their player went down when attacking near our corner flag, cheating a foul and grabbed the ball the ref gave handball. Throughout the game he on numerous occasions waved play on when a player flung himself to the ground- and good on him.
Moly should have scored that but leant back as a back up plan. For me the ref was consistent in not being conned by this relatively new and horrible falling over tactic. Therefore he waved away our claims.
Thought the attack on McGrath was a definite pen though.
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It was a good game and a draw was a decent result against a top side so lost no ground there and keep our little unbeaten run going.
A poor goal to give away with bodies in the box and someone has a couple of yards of space eight yards out in front of goal, we need to be tighter and more switched on to crosses, and a big reason our goal difference is not among the top runners.
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I don’t know how the ref can’t give a penalty there. It’s required no thought. And a red card too.
Baffling.
For me the reason the ref didn’t give a pen on Molyneux was because through out the entire game he didn’t succumb to footballers receiving a pass and buying (actually NO, cheating a foul) as the opponent gets in close behind them. Even when their player went down when attacking near our corner flag, cheating a foul and grabbed the ball the ref gave handball. Throughout the game he on numerous occasions waved play on when a player flung himself to the ground- and good on him.
Moly should have scored that but leant back as a back up plan. For me the ref was consistent in not being conned by this relatively new and horrible falling over tactic. Therefore he waved away our claims.
Thought the attack on McGrath was a definite pen though.
They were both definite pens! No excuses the ref got both decisions horribly wrong
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Yeah I'd echo most of what's already been said. The game started at breakneck speed and then they played a really good move, got the cross in and scored. Disappointing with letting them get a cross in from that area and the guy getting a free header. That aside, McGrath and Oluwu were excellent.
I had a great view of the McGrath penalty incident and nobody can tell me it wasn't a pen, the ref had a great view of it as well. In McCann's RS interview, he said he'd be talking to the ref before he left.
Once they'd scored we grew into the game and were starting to get into in the ten minutes before half time. I was calling for Ironside from half time, luckily we didn't have to wait too much longer. Ironside is the focal point up top we need and it showed more or less immediately, combined with Hurst coming central.
Thought it would be one of those games where we don't score but following a great save by TSL completely against the run of play, Sterry sent in a terrific cross for Ironside.
We had numerous possession and territory but couldnt make it count, Gibson needed better composure with the chance straight after the equaliser.
Then the second penalty incident, again, can't see why that isn't given.
We should have won the game and should be disappointed with the result in the end. We were the better side on balance. They defended for over 60 minutes, hardly getting in our half in the second half. We need to be more clinical and stop trying to walk the ball into the goal.
Going forward, Ironside to start for me. Thought Senior played well, Kelly very good. Not sure about Clifton still. Big Joe and McGrath are developing quite the partnership.
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Superb substitutions today. Well done Grant and Cliff.
On another day we walk away with all 3 points there.
We can rue easier missed chances yes, but the quality of end product from both Sterry and Ironside for our goal was exquisite.
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Just to echo some thoughts on their goal, really poor from us, no pressing higher up the pitch, but that was some passing move from front to back.why they then decided to sit back god knows, from that point we dominated the game, and should have been home and hosed with the areas we got into.
TSL what a save! Then was it direct from that he released Molly with an absolute peach of a ball the full length of the pitch? He is going to be some keeper! As good if not better than TLT.
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That was a very, very high quality and entertaining game of football. A pleasure to watch.
And as others have said, their goal was as good as anything you'll ever see at this level. Sometimes you have to stand up and accept the quality of the opposition's play.
This time last season we would have had a caning after that.
Our response today was a pleasure to see. We got into their central midfield after 20-25 mins and broke up what had been an extremely impressive passing game. Then we got the confidence to take on their press and from then on we dominated. A real statement of intent I think. Ok, we dropped 2 points, but they will be going home tonight knowing that, barring the first 1/4 of the game, they've been comfortably second best. By 70 minutes, their central midfield had evaporated and we were cutting through them at will.
That's two serious promotion contenders in the last two league games that we have given a bit of a lesson to. Looking good.
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Just to echo some thoughts on their goal, really poor from us, no pressing higher up the pitch, but that was some passing move from front to back.why they then decided to sit back god knows, from that point we dominated the game, and should have been home and hosed with the areas we got into.
TSL what a save! Then was it direct from that he released Molly with an absolute peach of a ball the full length of the pitch? He is going to be some keeper! As good if not better than TLT.
It was Fleming who played the long ball to Mols at the end mate.
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Actually it was McGrath who played Molls in - he was being held back and even if no penalty awarded, why no Corner either as their keeper got his hand to it or it was in.
That said Molls was well off it today by his high standards and should have been hooked at half time - If I were Jack Senior I would be well pissed off, he had a great game and should have stayed on with Fleming in front of him rather than an out of sorts Molls
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I thought that Senior took a knock just before being subbed so maybe that was the reason he was hooked.
And yes, you are right, it was McGrath who played Mols in.
I have just looked at the highlights.
From my spot in the South I thought was hit from Flemming.
Looking at the highlights it backs up my thoughts that Mols was fouled in that late pen incident.
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No my timings might be off a bit, but TSL kicked it from his hands, after one of their attacks or maybe a corner - it wasn’t the penalty chance from McGrath pass. It was inch perfect pass and at pace. ( as was McGraths actually)
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Moly should have had a penalty, the ref bottled it and made a terrible decision (not his only one of the afternoon).
Very frustrating that Moly stays on his feet in an attempt to get his shot off when if he’d gone to ground we probably get the decision.
A word for Jamie Sterry.
He gets a lot of (unjustified) criticism but that ball in for Joe to score was fantastic.
All in all a high quality game between two very good sides. Lots of attacking, lots of good football to enjoy.
I was very pleased at the way we played ourselves back into the game after going behind. A year ago we would have capitulated and lost that game.
We should have won it today; overall we were the better team and we outplayed them in the second half.
But I’ll take the draw, and other results went in our favour so no ground lost on our rivals at the top.
Good luck to County for the rest of the season - they deserve to go up on that showing and let’s hope this fixture is played in L1 next season.
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Excellent game, & an excellent second half from us, proud of the players tonight, thought we edged it over the 90 minutes.
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Moly should have had a penalty, the ref bottled it and made a terrible decision (not his only one of the afternoon).
Very frustrating that Moly stays on his feet in an attempt to get his shot off when if he’d gone to ground we probably get the decision.
A word for Jamie Sterry.
He gets a lot of (unjustified) criticism but that ball in for Joe to score was fantastic.
All in all a high quality game between two very good sides. Lots of attacking, lots of good football to enjoy.
I was very pleased at the way we played ourselves back into the game after going behind. A year ago we would have capitulated and lost that game.
We should have won it today; overall we were the better team and we outplayed them in the second half.
But I’ll take the draw, and other results went in our favour so no ground lost on our rivals at the top.
Good luck to County for the rest of the season - they deserve to go up on that showing and let’s hope this fixture is played in L1 next season.
That in a nutshell for me Pancho.
Two quality teams in this division that hopefully on today’s showing (bearing in mind that’s my first view of County) will both be playing at a higher level next season.
It was a frustrating time for Sharp up front today, the ball either didn’t drop for him or his efforts were easily snuffed out. There will be other games when Billy’s movement across that front line will pay dividends but, after 35 minutes the game was crying out for a forward who could compete in the air with County’s centre backs, then hold the play up to bring other attacking players into the game. We had to wait until into the 2nd half for that to happen along with other attacking force minded ‘fresh substitutes’ to enable us to wrest the game from County & with a fair wind (i.e. a stonewall penalty) we could deservedly have gone on to win all 3 points.
Credit to County for pressing to win the game in the final 10 minutes, as indeed we did, which resulted in a cracking game without time wasting by either side looking to accept a draw.
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Sounds as though we really put them to the sword in the second half and could/should have won. If we manage to get a bit more ruthless (hopefully we’re capable of it - Grimsby springs to mind) and put 3/4 wins on the spin together we can really cement our place in the top 3. The table’s still remarkably close and a good run could really push us on.
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Agree with Filos original post.
Im a massive fan of Billy but he looks off it, time for Joe to start a run of games and maybe Billy come on if needed. I though Joe looked back to his old self again yesterday. GM noted in his PM interview that something has changed in him and he is really switched on in training etc.
I'd like to see Gibson, Hurst and Moly all starting, this was the line up in many games preseason that did so well. If that is at the expense of Clifton then so be it. On yesterday's performance from Kelly amd Bailey neither one of them is coming out the team.
I thought the whole squad was excellent yesterday once we got going we really dominated the game.
TSL another good performance overall
Joe/Jay - what a pairing we have there, for me Tom/Woody are now back ups. I would be renewing Joe's contract now aswell. Not only is he a great player but comes across as a great guy overall, always has time for the fans and still young so will be an assett.
Bailey - Mr consistent just 7-8/10 week on week.
Kelly - outstanding yesterday
Sterry - I'm not his biggest fan but what a cross that was, he will get quite a few assists if he keeps doing that.
I could go on and name them all. Great performance just a shame we didn't get the win in the end.
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Brilliant game but it’s frustrating how wasteful we are.
Got into so many good positions and we’ve barely made their keeper make a save.
Kelly, Olowu outstanding.
Moly has to go down, it’s as simple as that. Every other team in this league would.
Great game though, great atmosphere. Can’t help feel we should be 4 or 5 points clear at the top though. I feel sure we go on a winning run soon.
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Great advert for L2. Two good teams and we were the pick of them for the last 50-60 minutes.
Off days for Moly and Bailey but they’ll bounce back I’m sure.
On the other hand, Olowu, Kelly and Hurst very good, and the subs all made an impact. Not sure how we didn’t score from the Gibson chance/square second half, wouldn’t have been undeserved if we’d have nicked it.
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Good game yesterday. They were outstanding in possession. The way they moved the ball with ease is unmatched from anyone else I’ve seen in this league this year.
If I was a County fan, I’d have been gutted the way they sat back and retreated second half. Hopefully that was down to us.
The subs second half did make the world of difference. Clifton for me is not up to it. Simply not good enough on the ball. His endless running is to be commended but he’s easily bypassed in midfield.
Hurst has to start in the 10 position every game. I was shocked and disappointed Grant changed it from the Bradford game.. He’s so much better picking the ball up facing the direction of play to do his work. Hardly saw the ball first half, and when he did got outmuscled a bit too easy on the half turn.
Agree with others that Ironside is the preferred starter up top. That number 5 had a cigar on first half. Then when Joe came on he couldn’t live with it. He’s so important to how we play. I love Billy to bits but I fear his signing has caused more problems than it’s solved.
Moly and Gibson had largely forgettable games. Sterry put in a decent cross but I feel Nixon will be breathing heavily down his neck when fit enough.
Everyone else was excellent, especially Kelly. Crossing practice from the whole team wouldn’t go amiss however.
I’d have taken a point at half time, but walked away feeling sad we could and should have had all 3.
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Just watched the highlights and I think it was a free kick on Molly as soon as he collects the ball outside the box, their defender grabs him straight away.
Then a split second later it's definitely a penalty for the same offence.
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Regarding Ironside, I know he became a dad for the first time in the summer. Non-zero chance he's a bit out of it because he's up all night?
Regarding the game, that was a game between two sides that should be going up this season. You look at some of the teams we've played (and indeed lost to) this season and compare them to Notts County and it's a different planet. It's very rare to see a goal of that quality against us, normally we're the ones that play like that! They're also a fairly sound bunch on social media, we both respect how good each other were yesterday and aren't throwing a tantrum they drew.
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Agree with Filos original post.
Sterry - I'm not his biggest fan but what a cross that was, he will get quite a few assists if he keeps doing that.
Sterry has four assists in the league already.
That’s one more than our best winger.
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Any comments on the handball claim 2nd half, I didn"t see it from the West
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Our crossing from the byline into the box is horrific, always given straight to the keeper. Think most of them assists from Sterry have come similar to yesterday, balls from deeper into the danger area between keeper and defenders who are running backwards.
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We definitely need to do more of the early crosses from deeper positions to mix it up more. Sterry has delivered some peaches of crosses, an earlier example was the goal scored at home by Clifton when he made a great run into the box. It prevents the centre halves and keeper getting set to anticipate the crosses.
It's a little concerning we're not converting enough chances from good positions at home. Once again the stat showing we had 34 touches in the box compared to their 10 supports we're not converting enough. We often just seem to be snatching a bit, not getting clean contacts or taking an extra touch, which often leads to shots being blocked.
Probably in training, they take these opportunities with ease, so I hope it's a case of the more we practice the luckier we get but keep doing what we're doing to get the ball into the right areas.
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Sharp is only as good as the chances you create for him.
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18Dappers Vlog shows more of the second half incidents. The angle on Mols pen, no pen, doesn't look as clear cut.
https://youtu.be/DPNS17rRgYo?si=fNPcn5U3bUZqg14s
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Just watched Dappers vlog and still think it was a foul and red card.
Great angle for our equaliser
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18Dappers Vlog shows more of the second half incidents. The angle on Mols pen, no pen, doesn't look as clear cut.
https://youtu.be/DPNS17rRgYo?si=fNPcn5U3bUZqg14s
We should have got a corner though - keeper clearly got a hand to it.
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18Dappers Vlog shows more of the second half incidents. The angle on Mols pen, no pen, doesn't look as clear cut.
https://youtu.be/DPNS17rRgYo?si=fNPcn5U3bUZqg14s
What about the massive shout for hand ball by South Stand. Was it owt or nowt ?
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Sharp is only as good as the chances you create for him.
Some clown in the facebook group saying Sharp is shite and Joe Ironside should be a guaranteed starter being the only proven goalscorer. You really do have to despair at the intelligence of some people - especially when Sharp has scored more goals so far this season.
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18Dappers Vlog shows more of the second half incidents. The angle on Mols pen, no pen, doesn't look as clear cut.
https://youtu.be/DPNS17rRgYo?si=fNPcn5U3bUZqg14s
What about the massive shout for hand ball by South Stand. Was it owt or nowt ?
It was nowt. Their player turned sideways with arms down and looks like the ball might have hit his upper arm by his side. No pen. .
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What about the chance we had to take the lead straight after equalising? Gibson got caught in two minds I think and ended up fluffing it.
I'll be honest, County were good for 15 minutes but after that they didn't show much at all. So glad TSL was alert to make that save at 1-0 and we more or less went up the other end and scored. That would have been a real smash and grab had that gone in and made it 2-0.
They knocked it around well in that first 15-20 minutes and obviously the move for the goal was very good. But after that they were no better than anything else I've seen this season. Whether that was a tactical choice or whether it was down to us getting into and controlling the game from 20 minutes onwards, I don't know. We'd have comfortably beaten them being a little more clinical.
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What about the chance we had to take the lead straight after equalising? Gibson got caught in two minds I think and ended up fluffing it.
I'll be honest, County were good for 15 minutes but after that they didn't show much at all. So glad TSL was alert to make that save at 1-0 and we more or less went up the other end and scored. That would have been a real smash and grab had that gone in and made it 2-0.
They knocked it around well in that first 15-20 minutes and obviously the move for the goal was very good. But after that they were no better than anything else I've seen this season. Whether that was a tactical choice or whether it was down to us getting into and controlling the game from 20 minutes onwards, I don't know. We'd have comfortably beaten them being a little more clinical.
I thought that Gibson would have tried the shot too but we had plenty of players in support so can understand why he tried to pick one out with a cross.
Easy with hindsight to say he made the wrong choice but if it had resulted in a goal he would have been praised.
He had a split second to make his decision.
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18Dappers Vlog shows more of the second half incidents. The angle on Mols pen, no pen, doesn't look as clear cut.
https://youtu.be/DPNS17rRgYo?si=fNPcn5U3bUZqg14s
What about the massive shout for hand ball by South Stand. Was it owt or nowt ?
It was nowt. Their player turned sideways with arms down and looks like the ball might have hit his upper arm by his side. No pen. .
Totally agree i was right behind the shot/pass in the East. I definitely shouted for it but it was straight into his body with arms by his side/behind his back and not an outstretched arm. Worth a shout to put the pressure on the ref though :D
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With Grant telling the midfielders to get into the box and to be brave is fine but I don’t think it means don’t pass to a teammate who is in a better scoring position .Sharp is excellent at finding the right pockets of space in the box but needs colleagues to pass the ball .
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Molyneux as guilty as anyone in making some mystifying decisions on Saturday. Thought he was not up to his usual standards and perhaps was trying a bit too hard to make amends.
Noticed when Gibson came on, a lot of the time, when he doesn’t have the ball, he doesn’t make himself ‘easily available’ for a pass. He has to work about 10% harder, if he’s to hold down a regular starting berth.
Things improved after Clifton came off and Hurst went central. This sometimes works but Hursty needs to be a bit more consistent for it to be relied on. Maybe a January incomer could rubber stamp that position?
Little things, yes, but can easily be put right. Thoroughly enjoyed Saturday - 2 teams going hammer and tongs at one another and us finishing, by far, the stronger of the two. Shame it came down the referee’s ineptitude in not awarding a penalty for the assault on Molyneux.
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Molyneux as guilty as anyone in making some mystifying decisions on Saturday. Thought he was not up to his usual standards and perhaps was trying a bit too hard to make amends.
Noticed when Gibson came on, a lot of the time, when he doesn’t have the ball, he doesn’t make himself ‘easily available’ for a pass. He has to work about 10% harder, if he’s to hold down a regular starting berth.
Things improved after Clifton came off and Hurst went central. This sometimes works but Hursty needs to be a bit more consistent for it to be relied on. Maybe a January incomer could rubber stamp that position?
Little things, yes, but can easily be put right. Thoroughly enjoyed Saturday - 2 teams going hammer and tongs at one another and us finishing, by far, the stronger of the two. Shame it came down the referee’s ineptitude in not awarding a penalty for the assault on Molyneux.
Nail on the head there Alan, re Moly and Gibson.
I think a few suffer from that decision making, ending up fluffing their lines at key points but, it's all part of a developing team.
Moly, Hurst, Gibson, McGrath, Kelly all had decent opportunities but didn't get good enough contacts.
Gibson does seem to stroll about off the ball but to his credit, he did get back to defend too. As others have said, I'm surprised he didn't go for the jugular when he got got free, opting to try and play Ironside in but his pass was poor. Hurst did a similar thing on the right, opting to cut the ball back when trying to beat the keeper with a powerful shot was probably the better option.