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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on November 10, 2024, 01:46:35 pm
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….why when we had the ball and the ref stops the game for an apparent head injury, the ref restarted the game with a free drop to their keeper?
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That was absolutely ridiculous wasn't it?
Opens up a whole new way of defending if the opposition is camped on the edge of your box. Just go down in the area holding your head.
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I don't understand how a player can be hauled to the ground in the penalty area and nothing is given either.
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The same thing happened with Billy Sharp in the first half and he let play go on and did nothing.
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….why when we had the ball and the ref stops the game for an apparent head injury, the ref restarted the game with a free drop to their keeper?
Totally in keeping with the rest of the barmy rules we have nowadays. Handball, timekeeping, offside, var alleged head injuries. If only the rule makers had some balls
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Complicated but how would this be for the professional game:
1: Independent medically trained official at each match as member of officiating team
2: Every injury where a player goes down for more than say 10 seconds clutching his head - mandatory 10 minutes off the pitch with assessment from 'medical referee'. A concussion sub is allowed on.
3: After 10 minutes, if the injured player is not fit to continue, sub stays on
4: After 10 minutes, if the injured player is fit to continue the medical referee makes an assessment of whether the injured player had a real knock, or is feigning injury.
a: If real, then team can choose whether injured player returns or sub continues
b: If assessed as feigned, sub has to come off and team carries on one player light
Might need a tweak for the last 10 minutes of the game, but that should stop tactical feigned head injuries
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Stopping the game because of injury is the worst rule in football. The players know when the really bad injuries happen and ok, halt things then, but apart from that keep the game going. It’s a farce.
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Stopping the game because of injury is the worst rule in football. The players know when the really bad injuries happen and ok, halt things then, but apart from that keep the game going. It’s a farce.
It takes the piss doesn't it.
Players go down as though their bone is sticking out of their socks. Magic sponge and a cuddle from physio and up they pop and start running around with renewed energy.
This is where players should be yellow carded I think, it's cheating and it's time wasting.
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Just happened in the Chelsea Arsenal game. Chelsea player goes down clutching face, replay clearly shows light contact on chest/shoulder, zero contact on face. VAR if we have it should step in and the player should be booked.
This cheating is going beyond a joke.
In answer to the initial question
Absolutely no idea, awful decision considering Ironside had control of the ball in their area, from a pass from our player, so at worst it’s a drop ball to us where the player passes into ironside, at best it a drop to us in their area.
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Complicated but how would this be for the professional game:
1: Independent medically trained official at each match as member of officiating team
2: Every injury where a player goes down for more than say 10 seconds clutching his head - mandatory 10 minutes off the pitch with assessment from 'medical referee'. A concussion sub is allowed on.
3: After 10 minutes, if the injured player is not fit to continue, sub stays on
4: After 10 minutes, if the injured player is fit to continue the medical referee makes an assessment of whether the injured player had a real knock, or is feigning injury.
a: If real, then team can choose whether injured player returns or sub continues
b: If assessed as feigned, sub has to come off and team carries on one player light
Might need a tweak for the last 10 minutes of the game, but that should stop tactical feigned head injuries
Dutch my old mate, don't know what you do for a living but I can tell you one thing you'll never get a job with the F.A, far too sensible and honest The cheats charter is alive and well in professional football aided by the men in grey suits
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….why when we had the ball and the ref stops the game for an apparent head injury, the ref restarted the game with a free drop to their keeper?
This is becoming a habit, but I totally agree that it was a stupid decision.
We were in possession when the ref blew the whistle but as I said at the time, he was never going to give us the dropped ball in their box.
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….why when we had the ball and the ref stops the game for an apparent head injury, the ref restarted the game with a free drop to their keeper?
This is becoming a habit, but I totally agree that it was a stupid decision.
We were in possession when the ref blew the whistle but as I said at the time, he was never going to give us the dropped ball in their box.
A terrible decision.
We had possession, there was no foul, the referee decides to stop play for their guy to receive treatment for his supposed head injury.
There is no way that play should then be restarted with an unopposed drop-ball to their ‘keeper.
We have thereby lost possession in a potentially dangerous area and our attack is brought to an abrupt end.
As stated above, this could open the door to yet another unscrupulous method of halting the opposing side’s attack.
At the very least, the drop ball should be from the place where the ball was when the ref stopped play, and dropped to the team who had possession at the time.
Does the ref have to account for such a decision?
Very annoying.
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….why when we had the ball and the ref stops the game for an apparent head injury, the ref restarted the game with a free drop to their keeper?
This is becoming a habit, but I totally agree that it was a stupid decision.
We were in possession when the ref blew the whistle but as I said at the time, he was never going to give us the dropped ball in their box.
A terrible decision.
We had possession, there was no foul, the referee decides to stop play for their guy to receive treatment for his supposed head injury.
There is no way that play should then be restarted with an unopposed drop-ball to their ‘keeper.
We have thereby lost possession in a potentially dangerous area and our attack is brought to an abrupt end.
As stated above, this could open the door to yet another unscrupulous method of halting the opposing side’s attack.
At the very least, the drop ball should be from the place where the ball was when the ref stopped play, and dropped to the team who had possession at the time.
Does the ref have to account for such a decision?
Very annoying.
Of course not, the assessor will report that the ref made a good decision in making sure the player with the head injury got treatment in a timely fashion.
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Following on from that, the kick from the keeper went out of play in our half, I wonder if the ref told him to do that, and if so why didn’t any of our players make more of an issue of it?
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Just happened in the Chelsea Arsenal game. Chelsea player goes down clutching face, replay clearly shows light contact on chest/shoulder, zero contact on face. VAR if we have it should step in and the player should be booked.
This cheating is going beyond a joke.
In answer to the initial question
Absolutely no idea, awful decision considering Ironside had control of the ball in their area, from a pass from our player, so at worst it’s a drop ball to us where the player passes into ironside, at best it a drop to us in their area.
Using VAR and video footage the player meets up with a tribunal the next day. They get 6 weeks suspension from the game and from training. It will soon stop.
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If ball ball is in the opposite box and you have control of it and a defending player goes down the ball is dropped to the keeper or the attacking team would just get a free shot on goal when the ball was dropped
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….why when we had the ball and the ref stops the game for an apparent head injury, the ref restarted the game with a free drop to their keeper?
if ref stops play due to a injury with the ball in the penalty area it’s a drop ball to the keeper no matter who was in control,yes sum would say the ball was outside the area but no ref would give a drop ball to the attacking team in that situation unless it’s well outside
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Surely the easiest solution is to award a corner or goal kick depending on who has control if it's inside the area?
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A great idea but of course we will guess it won't be adopted OR as with 6 second rule it will be adopted but ignored
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Following on from that, the kick from the keeper went out of play in our half, I wonder if the ref told him to do that, and if so why didn’t any of our players make more of an issue of it?
Yeah i saw that too, effectively returning the posession deep in our own half. Don't think they contested the throw in either. Their keeper's kicking had been so bad all game I assumed he'd done it by mistake but it looked planned retrospectively.
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….why when we had the ball and the ref stops the game for an apparent head injury, the ref restarted the game with a free drop to their keeper?
if ref stops play due to a injury with the ball in the penalty area it’s a drop ball to the keeper no matter who was in control,yes sum would say the ball was outside the area but no ref would give a drop ball to the attacking team in that situation unless it’s well outside
If that’s the case - it can be exploited by any team who are a bit under the cosh in a game. Feign injury- ref stops play - get possession. Can’t be right, that!
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Remember Jose at Chelsea exploiting a rule that if two defenders go down with a head injury at a corner nobody has to leave the field of play ,where if one player goes down to stop play he has to leave the pitch
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….why when we had the ball and the ref stops the game for an apparent head injury, the ref restarted the game with a free drop to their keeper?
if ref stops play due to a injury with the ball in the penalty area it’s a drop ball to the keeper no matter who was in control,yes sum would say the ball was outside the area but no ref would give a drop ball to the attacking team in that situation unless it’s well outside
If that’s the case - it can be exploited by any team who are a bit under the cosh in a game. Feign injury- ref stops play - get possession. Can’t be right, that!
course it can and I would think we would do it if needed aswell all depends when ref stops playing already out of the box and attacker has control then the ref should drop to the attacking team but if ball still the air it will get dropped to the keeper
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That was absolutely ridiculous wasn't it?
Opens up a whole new way of defending if the opposition is camped on the edge of your box. Just go down in the area holding your head.
To be fair, I used to collapse in the area holding my head most Sunday League matches, but that were just the hangover kicking in.