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Title: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: selby on November 17, 2024, 06:30:38 pm
  A place we have never had an easy game and a club I hope have a better season going forward apart from their games against us.
  Sitting second from bottom of the division it would be easy to think it would be an easy game for us, but will no doubt turn out to be as difficult as we have had all season against a team at home fighting for every point to get away from the bottom of the division, a situation we were in at this time last year and we can be held up to any team down there as an example of how quickly luck and form can change the fortunes of a club, I should also add good management skills and recruitment..
  Having won only one   and drawn one and losing five of their league games at home while conceding twelve goals in the process again it would be easy for us to think it easy, until you remember our age old knack of getting teams on bad runs back on track, a knack we have had for years.
  After the two home draws, if you don't win don't lose not a bad thing, and  to say the least on the end of some bizarre refereeing decisions in the last two games pressure has mounted on us to get a result to keep pressure on the top sides, and better finishing in front of goal would go a long way to putting things right.
  To be fair we have played well in the two drawn games, and it would be churlish to blame any individual, it happens in football and any other sport really and I for one am happy where and how we have played the game. if anything we have missed that unknown factor lady luck, and most teams have games like that in a season, but in a sport where mental frailty is never far away from the best of players and transfers to the crowd we now need to just have faith in what we are doing, keep doing it and things should come through our little blip if a blip is what it is.
   Now is the time for our excellent management team, to like last season  step up and be counted and drive the team on back to their best form and the players wearing the shirt to fight to drive us on, although there is not a lot wrong that as I said before a bit of luck would not put right.
  So enough rambling on  from me, what do you think? am I looking through rose tinted glasses? can we get a much needed win? are you going to the game? would you make changes?
  Lot's to discuss please have your say.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Chris Black come back on November 17, 2024, 07:15:32 pm
Second worst home record in League Two. No side has lost more than them at home this season (five losses) and in only seven home games. Only two sides have scored fewer goals. They’ve scored once in their last three home games.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: BobG on November 17, 2024, 09:16:07 pm
Shit.....

BobG
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2024, 10:17:12 pm
Second worst home record in League Two. No side has lost more than them at home this season (five losses) and in only seven home games. Only two sides have scored fewer goals. They’ve scored once in their last three home games.
My mate Harrogate Rover would probably say coming up against "Doctor Rovers" will cure their poor run!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Harrogate Rover on November 17, 2024, 11:05:45 pm
Second worst home record in League Two. No side has lost more than them at home this season (five losses) and in only seven home games. Only two sides have scored fewer goals. They’ve scored once in their last three home games.
My mate Harrogate Rover would probably say coming up against "Doctor Rovers" will cure their poor run!

Yep! Harrogate Town, yet to score a goal at home and Bromley without a win in 9 games. Don't worry lad's Doctor Donny will see you now
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2024, 11:11:28 pm
Oh aye, that's it, Doctor Donny!

I thought Doctor Rovers didn't sound quite right!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Harrogate Rover on November 17, 2024, 11:18:32 pm
.... and I'm usually the one looking on the bright side too!   :whistle:
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Campsall rover on November 18, 2024, 08:11:17 am
  A place we have never had an easy game and a club I hope have a better season going forward apart from their games against us.
  Sitting second from bottom of the division it would be easy to think it would be an easy game for us, but will no doubt turn out to be as difficult as we have had all season against a team at home fighting for every point to get away from the bottom of the division, a situation we were in at this time last year and we can be held up to any team down there as an example of how quickly luck and form can change the fortunes of a club, I should also add good management skills and recruitment..
  Having won only one   and drawn one and losing five of their league games at home while conceding twelve goals in the process again it would be easy for us to think it easy, until you remember our age old knack of getting teams on bad runs back on track, a knack we have had for years.
  After the two home draws, if you don't win don't lose not a bad thing, and  to say the least on the end of some bizarre refereeing decisions in the last two games pressure has mounted on us to get a result to keep pressure on the top sides, and better finishing in front of goal would go a long way to putting things right.
  To be fair we have played well in the two drawn games, and it would be churlish to blame any individual, it happens in football and any other sport really and I for one am happy where and how we have played the game. if anything we have missed that unknown factor lady luck, and most teams have games like that in a season, but in a sport where mental frailty is never far away from the best of players and transfers to the crowd we now need to just have faith in what we are doing, keep doing it and things should come through our little blip if a blip is what it is.
   Now is the time for our excellent management team, to like last season  step up and be counted and drive the team on back to their best form and the players wearing the shirt to fight to drive us on, although there is not a lot wrong that as I said before a bit of luck would not put right.
  So enough rambling on  from me, what do you think? am I looking through rose tinted glasses? can we get a much needed win? are you going to the game? would you make changes?
  Lot's to discuss please have your say.
We had a comfortable win 3-1 win at Brunton Park on 20th NOV 2012 in our League 1 promotion season.

We also won there on 29th NOV 2003 in our league 2
(called league 3 at that time ) in our promotion season.

Not only were we promoted in those 2 seasons we were CHAMPIONS
So we like winning in NOV at Brunton Park and when we do we win the league.
3rd time this season then?   :)
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on November 18, 2024, 09:44:00 am
Went to the season opener in Aug 2006, camped overnight in a field in the Lakes and ended up with sheep for night time company! Stay in Cockermouth when weather not so inviting, which is a nice little place with an amusing name!

Can't make Saturday, but hoping we can kick in to gear for this one. I'd be positive with the formation, chasing games hasn't suited us, so maybe a similar formation to the end of Sat's game - Sharp definitely needs to start, although I'd happily let Ironside support him and keep Moly, Gibson and Hurst in the starting line-up.

TSL // McGrath / Olowu / Anderson // Moly / Gibson / Hurst / Bailey / Kelly // Sharp / Ironside - 352
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: roversdude on November 18, 2024, 03:55:12 pm
Think Billy has to get through the next 2 games without a booking to avoid a ban
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Alan Southstand on November 18, 2024, 06:41:42 pm
That’s it then, Ironside has to play. Billy is the best option coming off the bench, anyway.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: scawsby steve on November 18, 2024, 06:45:15 pm
I'd definitely play Gibson in this one, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: NigelJ on November 18, 2024, 06:58:14 pm
  A place we have never had an easy game and a club I hope have a better season going forward apart from their games against us.
  Sitting second from bottom of the division it would be easy to think it would be an easy game for us, but will no doubt turn out to be as difficult as we have had all season against a team at home fighting for every point to get away from the bottom of the division, a situation we were in at this time last year and we can be held up to any team down there as an example of how quickly luck and form can change the fortunes of a club, I should also add good management skills and recruitment..
  Having won only one   and drawn one and losing five of their league games at home while conceding twelve goals in the process again it would be easy for us to think it easy, until you remember our age old knack of getting teams on bad runs back on track, a knack we have had for years.
  After the two home draws, if you don't win don't lose not a bad thing, and  to say the least on the end of some bizarre refereeing decisions in the last two games pressure has mounted on us to get a result to keep pressure on the top sides, and better finishing in front of goal would go a long way to putting things right.
  To be fair we have played well in the two drawn games, and it would be churlish to blame any individual, it happens in football and any other sport really and I for one am happy where and how we have played the game. if anything we have missed that unknown factor lady luck, and most teams have games like that in a season, but in a sport where mental frailty is never far away from the best of players and transfers to the crowd we now need to just have faith in what we are doing, keep doing it and things should come through our little blip if a blip is what it is.
   Now is the time for our excellent management team, to like last season  step up and be counted and drive the team on back to their best form and the players wearing the shirt to fight to drive us on, although there is not a lot wrong that as I said before a bit of luck would not put right.
  So enough rambling on  from me, what do you think? am I looking through rose tinted glasses? can we get a much needed win? are you going to the game? would you make changes?
  Lot's to discuss please have your say.
We had a comfortable win 3-1 win at Brunton Park on 20th NOV 2012 in our League 1 promotion season.

We also won there on 29th NOV 2003 in our league 2
(called league 3 at that time ) in our promotion season.

Not only were we promoted in those 2 seasons we were CHAMPIONS
So we like winning in NOV at Brunton Park and when we do we win the league.
3rd time this season then?   :)
Probably not, as likely to be postponed, so won't then be played in November.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Campsall rover on November 18, 2024, 07:00:03 pm
I would start Ironside.
Think Billy is most effective off the bench in the last 25/30 mins.

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Campsall rover on November 18, 2024, 07:06:21 pm
  A place we have never had an easy game and a club I hope have a better season going forward apart from their games against us.
  Sitting second from bottom of the division it would be easy to think it would be an easy game for us, but will no doubt turn out to be as difficult as we have had all season against a team at home fighting for every point to get away from the bottom of the division, a situation we were in at this time last year and we can be held up to any team down there as an example of how quickly luck and form can change the fortunes of a club, I should also add good management skills and recruitment..
  Having won only one   and drawn one and losing five of their league games at home while conceding twelve goals in the process again it would be easy for us to think it easy, until you remember our age old knack of getting teams on bad runs back on track, a knack we have had for years.
  After the two home draws, if you don't win don't lose not a bad thing, and  to say the least on the end of some bizarre refereeing decisions in the last two games pressure has mounted on us to get a result to keep pressure on the top sides, and better finishing in front of goal would go a long way to putting things right.
  To be fair we have played well in the two drawn games, and it would be churlish to blame any individual, it happens in football and any other sport really and I for one am happy where and how we have played the game. if anything we have missed that unknown factor lady luck, and most teams have games like that in a season, but in a sport where mental frailty is never far away from the best of players and transfers to the crowd we now need to just have faith in what we are doing, keep doing it and things should come through our little blip if a blip is what it is.
   Now is the time for our excellent management team, to like last season  step up and be counted and drive the team on back to their best form and the players wearing the shirt to fight to drive us on, although there is not a lot wrong that as I said before a bit of luck would not put right.
  So enough rambling on  from me, what do you think? am I looking through rose tinted glasses? can we get a much needed win? are you going to the game? would you make changes?
  Lot's to discuss please have your say.
We had a comfortable win 3-1 win at Brunton Park on 20th NOV 2012 in our League 1 promotion season.

We also won there on 29th NOV 2003 in our league 2
(called league 3 at that time ) in our promotion season.

Not only were we promoted in those 2 seasons we were CHAMPIONS
So we like winning in NOV at Brunton Park and when we do we win the league.
3rd time this season then?   :)
Probably not, as likely to be postponed, so won't then be played in November.
Probably ON
Forecast for Friday night in Carlisle is at worst 1 degree. It is forecast to be milder on Saturday morning.
If they cover the pitch this week it should be fine. Always assuming they have got covers.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: adamtherover on November 18, 2024, 07:10:03 pm
  A place we have never had an easy game and a club I hope have a better season going forward apart from their games against us.
  Sitting second from bottom of the division it would be easy to think it would be an easy game for us, but will no doubt turn out to be as difficult as we have had all season against a team at home fighting for every point to get away from the bottom of the division, a situation we were in at this time last year and we can be held up to any team down there as an example of how quickly luck and form can change the fortunes of a club, I should also add good management skills and recruitment..
  Having won only one   and drawn one and losing five of their league games at home while conceding twelve goals in the process again it would be easy for us to think it easy, until you remember our age old knack of getting teams on bad runs back on track, a knack we have had for years.
  After the two home draws, if you don't win don't lose not a bad thing, and  to say the least on the end of some bizarre refereeing decisions in the last two games pressure has mounted on us to get a result to keep pressure on the top sides, and better finishing in front of goal would go a long way to putting things right.
  To be fair we have played well in the two drawn games, and it would be churlish to blame any individual, it happens in football and any other sport really and I for one am happy where and how we have played the game. if anything we have missed that unknown factor lady luck, and most teams have games like that in a season, but in a sport where mental frailty is never far away from the best of players and transfers to the crowd we now need to just have faith in what we are doing, keep doing it and things should come through our little blip if a blip is what it is.
   Now is the time for our excellent management team, to like last season  step up and be counted and drive the team on back to their best form and the players wearing the shirt to fight to drive us on, although there is not a lot wrong that as I said before a bit of luck would not put right.
  So enough rambling on  from me, what do you think? am I looking through rose tinted glasses? can we get a much needed win? are you going to the game? would you make changes?
  Lot's to discuss please have your say.
We had a comfortable win 3-1 win at Brunton Park on 20th NOV 2012 in our League 1 promotion season.

We also won there on 29th NOV 2003 in our league 2
(called league 3 at that time ) in our promotion season.

Not only were we promoted in those 2 seasons we were CHAMPIONS
So we like winning in NOV at Brunton Park and when we do we win the league.
3rd time this season then?   :)
Probably not, as likely to be postponed, so won't then be played in November.
lows of 5 on satdi, weather shouldn't be an issue as long as they have covers on..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Campsall rover on November 20, 2024, 11:21:31 am
Looks like we will have over 700 fans at Carlisle. That’s a fantastic effort from our supporters.
135 miles to Brunton Park from Campsall so 145 from The Eco Power.
That’s A1 to Scotch Corner & A66 to Penrith & M6 to Carlisle route.

The weather sounds as though it will be a wet afternoon.
Possibly Sleet.
Hopefully their covers will be good enough for -1c  which is forecast now for Friday night.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: ncRover on November 20, 2024, 12:25:05 pm
Looks like we will have over 700 fans at Carlisle. That’s a fantastic effort from our supporters.
135 miles to Brunton Park from Campsall so 145 from The Eco Power.
That’s A1 to Scotch Corner & A66 to Penrith & M6 to Carlisle route.

The weather sounds as though it will be a wet afternoon.
Possibly Sleet.
Hopefully their covers will be good enough for -1c  which is forecast now for Friday night.

It’s due to warm up throughout Saturday so the cold won’t be an issue.
It sounds like it’s going to be very wet and windy though.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Barmby Rover on November 20, 2024, 02:58:12 pm
In general play, Ironside has been ineffective, all Billy requires to score more is the wingers to act like wingers and stop pretending to be strikers and feed the ball to him in a way he can hit it. Not difficult for any of our wide boys, we have 4 to choose from!. If they do this we will win comfortably.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: les@donr on November 21, 2024, 12:35:34 am
Last time I went to Carlisle (the season they went down) we won 1-0. I got hit in the side of the head by a battery thrown by a little local scroat. A fast acting steward caught him.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: drfchound on November 21, 2024, 06:31:42 am
Last time I went to Carlisle (the season they went down) we won 1-0. I got hit in the side of the head by a battery thrown by a little local scroat. A fast acting steward caught him.

I hope he was charged Les.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: normal rules on November 21, 2024, 07:31:38 am
Reports of -11 in parts of Cumbria this morning.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on November 21, 2024, 07:49:25 am
Last time I went to Carlisle (the season they went down) we won 1-0. I got hit in the side of the head by a battery thrown by a little local scroat. A fast acting steward caught him.

I hope he was charged Les.
He was, with assault and battery. They threw him in a dura-cell for the night.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: les@donr on November 21, 2024, 03:42:22 pm
Last time I went to Carlisle (the season they went down) we won 1-0. I got hit in the side of the head by a battery thrown by a little local scroat. A fast acting steward caught him.

I hope he was charged Les.

Not sure Hound. He was throwing Duracell battery so couldn’t be hard up. Maybe ended up in the Army, had a decent aim and hit rate.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: les@donr on November 21, 2024, 03:44:41 pm
Last time I went to Carlisle (the season they went down) we won 1-0. I got hit in the side of the head by a battery thrown by a little local scroat. A fast acting steward caught him.

I hope he was charged Les.
He was, with assault and battery. They threw him in a dura-cell for the night.

Very good Reg.Hope he’s not in the ground on Saturday.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: les@donr on November 21, 2024, 03:47:16 pm
The game I went to, LFW was the scorer.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: turnbull for england on November 21, 2024, 11:43:13 pm
Last time I went to Carlisle (the season they went down) we won 1-0. I got hit in the side of the head by a battery thrown by a little local scroat. A fast acting steward caught him.

I hope he was charged Les.
He was, with assault and battery. They threw him in a dura-cell for the night.


Positive and negatives to this story
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Lesonthewest on November 21, 2024, 11:51:54 pm
The game I went to, LFW was the scorer.

That was an awful game, & bad weather too if memory serves, think Leo won it for us second half.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: les@donr on November 22, 2024, 12:48:34 am
Les, you are right, weather conditions were terrible, so was the condition of the pitch, worse than most ploughed fields.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: les@donr on November 22, 2024, 12:56:11 am
The pitch was unplayable, couldn’t play football on it, more long ball, and hope LFW would get on the end of one of those punts, which fortunately for us, he did.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: glosterred on November 22, 2024, 02:56:06 pm
From the Rovers X/Twitter feed for those travelling

Supporters travelling to Carlisle tomorrow are advised by our police contacts to avoid using the A66 due to the forecasted adverse weather conditions on Saturday.

A route via the M62 and M6 has been advised


COYR
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Barmby Rover on November 22, 2024, 08:20:59 pm
Match off? Maybe, not so much from snow, it is going to melt fast, but then very heavy rain. flooded pitch?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: les@donr on November 22, 2024, 10:26:49 pm
Nothing yet on the BBC website. Still says match is on.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: NigelJ on November 22, 2024, 10:37:24 pm
Match off? Maybe, not so much from snow, it is going to melt fast, but then very heavy rain. flooded pitch?
There was no snow in Carlisle, so just about the volume of rain.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: les@donr on November 23, 2024, 02:39:11 am
Been on official Carlisle United website, there is no mentioned that the game is cancelled. Therefore, must still be on, unless announced otherwise.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: ncRover on November 23, 2024, 06:36:06 am
Won’t be a day for pretty football…

“SWING IT IN” as the bloke in the west stand says
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Metalmicky on November 23, 2024, 07:17:22 am
The game is unlikely to be an advert for the beautiful game..... and for that reason I'm out. 

Well done to those venturing north - stay safe and bring back the points please.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Scooter on November 23, 2024, 08:21:09 am
I’ve not been for a few years. Am I right in saying that the away end is uncovered and therefore I will end up drenched?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: adamtherover on November 23, 2024, 08:28:39 am
No, we are under cover down the side..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on November 23, 2024, 08:37:38 am
I don’t think that their manager has been mentione on here, but McCann has brought it up. Mike Williamson previously had great success at Gateshead and then a great winning streak at MK Dons which made them look like they’d get automatic promotion this time last year, but he still took them to the Play-offs. He took over at Carlisle too late to for the summer transfer window, but recent matches have seen his influence produce results.

He is wise enough to treat us with respect, but at the same time this looks like a team on the up and I don’t think anyone is expecting an easy game.

Another factor is that they are well supported with average gates around the same level as Rovers.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: selby on November 23, 2024, 09:04:09 am
  The conditions of the pitch are not going to be ideal, and the game is more likely to be more a slug fest than pure football from end to end.
   The result is all important to both sides, and they will be the sort of side we need to stand up to and cannot afford any shrinking violets.
   We have skill and flair in our side, and at times have shown the grit and determination to go toe to toe, certainly lately we have been better at it.
  If the game is played we will need all our good traits to be on show today to come away with anything, it will be a day for those players that like short sleeves and no gloves.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: roversdude on November 23, 2024, 09:19:26 am
National Highways still showing A66 closed both ways
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: drfchound on November 23, 2024, 09:23:00 am
I don’t think that their manager has been mentione on here, but McCann has brought it up. Mike Williamson previously had great success at Gateshead and then a great winning streak at MK Dons which made them look like they’d get automatic promotion this time last year, but he still took them to the Play-offs. He took over at Carlisle too late to for the summer transfer window, but recent matches have seen his influence produce results.

He is wise enough to treat us with respect, but at the same time this looks like a team on the up and I don’t think anyone is expecting an easy game.

Another factor is that they are well supported with average gates around the same level as Rovers.

So, from that information, we would probably be better off playing them today despite the conditions, rather than on a Tuesday later in the season after MW has had time and a January transfer window.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: RoversInSpain on November 23, 2024, 05:03:54 pm
Olowu superb today with TSL making 2 fantastic saves late on.
No idea where our next goal is coming from.
Awful first half, better in second but we did really try to lose it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: The Dav on November 23, 2024, 05:10:09 pm
Grants got some graft on if he wants us promoted this year ! Goals win games and we ain’t looking like we’ve got many in us ! That said he pulled us out of the brown stuff last year.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: danumdon on November 23, 2024, 05:17:44 pm
One word sums us up today, Wasteful!

When you have players trying to walk the ball into the net or passing to someone when they themselves are better placed to take a shot!

Need to get a ruthless streak and quick.

TSL saved us a point in the end.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on November 23, 2024, 05:24:38 pm
One word sums us up today, Wasteful!

When you have players trying to walk the ball into the net or passing to someone when they themselves are better placed to take a shot!

Need to get a ruthless streak and quick.

TSL saved us a point in the end.

Another word is “judgment”.

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Copps is Magic on November 23, 2024, 05:41:09 pm
I thought Kelly had the game in his hands today... but was also the reason we didn't win.

He made 5/6 excellent runs into the box, and was otherwise very good. But, his final ball just wasn't there, he just didn't get his head up and pick out a good pass.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: colincramb on November 23, 2024, 05:42:23 pm
Guys, chill. We are 3rd and we stay unbeaten away for another game. Don’t mind picking up draws away, whatever the opposition especially in awful conditions. If we can pick up a bit at home we will be fine.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on November 23, 2024, 05:49:08 pm
At half time McCann seems to have given them a plan to get the ball into the position to score, but he can’t kick the ball for them or make the decisions once they are in a position to score.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: adamtherover on November 23, 2024, 05:52:44 pm
Guys, chill. We are 3rd and we stay unbeaten away for another game. Don’t mind picking up draws away, whatever the opposition especially in awful conditions. If we can pick up a bit at home we will be fine.
the conditions weren't awful at all, dry with no wind, not very cold...  It was our poor decisions that cost us..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Campsall rover on November 23, 2024, 05:54:02 pm
Guys, chill. We are 3rd and we stay unbeaten away for another game. Don’t mind picking up draws away, whatever the opposition especially in awful conditions. If we can pick up a bit at home we will be fine.
Conditions were very good
Bad weather in Lancs not Cumbria
No snow on ground in Carlisle at all
Loads in Lancs
Very very wet in Lancs not a drop of rain in Cumbria
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Campsall rover on November 23, 2024, 06:25:41 pm
Only thing missing today was goals
Our build up play as fast and incisive in the 2nd half and if we had won every one would be saying exactly that.
Goals win games and we didn’t get one.
Fine margins. The important thing is we create chances. When we stop doing that then we can worry. We were much better than last week v Salford in the final 3rd today
The goals will come and when they do I think we will score a lot consistently.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: colincramb on November 23, 2024, 06:37:38 pm
Guys, chill. We are 3rd and we stay unbeaten away for another game. Don’t mind picking up draws away, whatever the opposition especially in awful conditions. If we can pick up a bit at home we will be fine.
Conditions were very good
Bad weather in Lancs not Cumbria
No snow on ground in Carlisle at all
Loads in Lancs
Very very wet in Lancs not a drop of rain in Cumbria

Apologies, I wasn’t there. Just assumed it was like the rest of the country. Either way, a draw away is still a good result. The key for me is picking up the home form and putting teams to bed here. Christmas will separate the men from the boys and then whatever business is done in January for the run in. We are well placed and I’d have taken this before the start of the season. It was by no means guaranteed we’d be up there so I’m happy.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: RoversInSpain on November 23, 2024, 06:45:20 pm
Perhaps it’s our blip, drawing these games (hope so). Only lost 1 in 11, 3rd…. Think last season Mansfield lost very few games and drew a lot before accelerating into a 3rd promotion spot.
Trust in Grant and Cliff, it’ll come.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Avsuptem on November 23, 2024, 06:52:17 pm
We were one pass away from a scoring opportunity 3 or 4 times in the first 5 minutes but passed it to the oppo instead. We could have been 2 goals up and what a different game it would have been from then on.
 A bit worrying that we  do not seem to be getting the best out of our very strong team at present which is not  normal for a Grant Mc Cann led team.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: NickDRFC on November 23, 2024, 08:01:34 pm
I thought Kelly had the game in his hands today... but was also the reason we didn't win.

He made 5/6 excellent runs into the box, and was otherwise very good. But, his final ball just wasn't there, he just didn't get his head up and pick out a good pass.

Kelly is very good at getting past players but shits his pants as soon as he gets in the box. There was one in the second half when he was clean through and had a great chance for the shot but squared it to their defender.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: ncRover on November 23, 2024, 09:30:14 pm
Guys, chill. We are 3rd and we stay unbeaten away for another game. Don’t mind picking up draws away, whatever the opposition especially in awful conditions. If we can pick up a bit at home we will be fine.

There’s strong teams above and below us with games in hand.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Campsall rover on November 23, 2024, 10:18:18 pm
Guys, chill. We are 3rd and we stay unbeaten away for another game. Don’t mind picking up draws away, whatever the opposition especially in awful conditions. If we can pick up a bit at home we will be fine.

There’s strong teams above and below us with games in hand.
Games in hand are not guaranteed points though. Only potential ones.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: NickDRFC on November 23, 2024, 10:40:08 pm
Is Maxwell fit? I usually really like him but thought he was poor against Salford and even worse today. Looked like he was really labouring even early on so maybe he’s not in the best condition yet.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Campsall rover on November 23, 2024, 11:28:47 pm
He definitely looks off the pace since his return. Not match fit I would suggest.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: GazLaz on November 24, 2024, 08:30:42 am
Is Maxwell fit? I usually really like him but thought he was poor against Salford and even worse today. Looked like he was really labouring even early on so maybe he’s not in the best condition yet.

Obviously still carrying something. Was miles off his best yesterday. Ambling about.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on November 24, 2024, 09:04:16 am
Yeah he's clearly not fit, looked way off it.

There's a slight worry at the moment in not winning games, realistically we should have won all bar the notts game as we've been pretty good overall until the opposition box. That's a worry but I think it will come.  Perhaps Sbarra needs a run.  I do wonder if the constant team changes are unhelpful too.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: NickDRFC on November 24, 2024, 09:38:20 am
Why’s he playing in that case? Nixon looked sharp and we also have Fleming and Senior so it’s not as though we’re short of options. Have the medical team rushed him back or is McCann making the wrong call?

“I do wonder if the constant team changes are unhelpful too.”

Completely agree with this. It’s almost November and I don’t think McCann knows his best team yet which is a concern. I don’t know their first thing about the Carlisle team but it was clear within minutes of coming on that Ironside would have posed more of a problem for them than Sharp. The management team should have known this; it feels like Sharp vs Ironside is decided on a coin flip rather than who would better suit the game. Could be completely wide of the mark there but it’s not the first time that it looks like the wrong one has started.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: sf9944 on November 24, 2024, 09:44:50 am
Totally understand the argument regarding the chopping and changing.

However I think he is doing this to 'match up' the opponents. Horses for courses.

Also everyone contributing is good for squad togetherness and will pay off later in the season imo.  Pklayers playing their first game twenty games into the season and only then because of injury to a teammate is not ideal. Pretty much all of our squad is up to speed and match fit.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on November 24, 2024, 01:02:33 pm
Looking at the extended highlights, there was a noticeable lack of endeavour in the first half compared with the second. In the modern game with the use of substitutes this seems completely unacceptable. What was featured showed that we almost allowed Carlisle to dominate. 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: Campsall rover on November 24, 2024, 03:19:13 pm
Looking at the extended highlights, there was a noticeable lack of endeavour in the first half compared with the second. In the modern game with the use of substitutes this seems completely unacceptable. What was featured showed that we almost allowed Carlisle to dominate.
We were the better team. 1st half not much created but Billy did have a great chance to score.
We dominated the 2nd half and once again we let 2 points escape us. Their Keeper did make 2 very good saves but we are still not ruthless enough and Kelly needs to start taking responsibility when presented with a golden chance of scoring himself. He does the hard work but time after time he is very reluctant to shoot.
Another game we really should have won. Yes Carlisle had a couple of good opportunities but they were created by our mistakes and not their own creativity.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: graingrover on November 24, 2024, 03:42:18 pm
There were two outstanding performances yesterday TSL and J Olowu .They all played well in the second half and good goalkeeping from the young Carlisle keeper kept us out with two magnificent saves from Hurst and Gibson .
Carlisle were much better than I thought they would be from their position in the league and will surely soon get up the table .
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: danumdon on November 24, 2024, 03:56:59 pm
There were two outstanding performances yesterday TSL and J Olowu .They all played well in the second half and good goalkeeping from the young Carlisle keeper kept us out with two magnificent saves from Hurst and Gibson .
Carlisle were much better than I thought they would be from their position in the league and will surely soon get up the table .

TSL and Olowu had very good games, Olowu has looked very controlled, composed and secure, his pace is invaluably and he's now starting to demonstrate what we all thought we saw in him previously.

TSL is proving to be a sound keeper, has made steady and unspectacular progress throughout the season and at the end of this game pulled of a very fine save to keep us in the match.

This match looks like its now  following a sequence of games. We are starting slow and building into games, the chances are being created but we seem very reluctant to take on first time shots, when we do they are speculative and wild. With better composure and sharper finishing we would of won all the last three matches, we need to capitalise on these opening and take our chances.

The difference between auto and playoffs is right there. Mental strength needs working on to improve and we need to be far more ruthless in front of goal.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: GazLaz on November 24, 2024, 05:53:20 pm
Looking at the extended highlights, there was a noticeable lack of endeavour in the first half compared with the second. In the modern game with the use of substitutes this seems completely unacceptable. What was featured showed that we almost allowed Carlisle to dominate. 

If we don’t play at a high tempo we look pretty ordinary. It’s not a case of not trying by the players but just a case of needing to speed thing up.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Carlisle United game
Post by: ncRover on November 28, 2024, 03:09:31 pm
There were two outstanding performances yesterday TSL and J Olowu .They all played well in the second half and good goalkeeping from the young Carlisle keeper kept us out with two magnificent saves from Hurst and Gibson .
Carlisle were much better than I thought they would be from their position in the league and will surely soon get up the table .

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Jack Senior. He's often overlooked when he plays well.
I've watched the full match replay over the last few days and he was an absolute warrior. He looks to have improved in his attacking play also.
Our defence is currently the strongest part of the team.