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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Lincoln Rover on November 28, 2024, 03:54:59 pm
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Phil Winterman from the shadow board has agreed to form a group to work with our club, in order to make the whole match day experience better. Its first meeting is just over a week away & ideas are already coming in.
What have you seen that other clubs do, that we could incorporate into your match day better?
Sensible answers please.
These will be collated & taken to the meeting.
Food/entertainment/videos/big screen/songs.
The club are fully supportive of this.
Thank you all in advance..
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A functioning sound system
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A functioning sound system
Has to be a priority.
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Change the music that they run out to at the start of the second half
Enter Sandman (if that’s what it is) does not work. (I appreciate that there will be Metallica fans about to shoot me down).
I’m not saying boys are back in town is the answer but something livelier and to get the crowd hyped would be better
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It’s Motörhead isn’t it.
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Happy hour, 241 cocktails, karaoke
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Get some profession musicien (s) to propose one or two Rovers anthems we can vote on .A good anthem would enhance the atmosphere .
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Quieten the tannoy down, and let people have a conversation. Get rid of blaring music in the concourse.
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Belle vue bar
Absolutely criminal the lack of seating in there.
In fact the far end from the entrance, you could easily make better use of that space.
Lick of paint, tables and chairs, a few more TV’s (and actually turn them on). You could probably make it into a bit of a sports bar area.
At the moment there’s a couple of rows of chairs packed in too close to each other, all looking at one tv. It’s so dull and boring.
You could easily spruce that area up and it wouldn’t cost the world.
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Get some profession musicien (s) to propose one or two Rovers anthems we can vote on .A good anthem would enhance the atmosphere .
Unlikely to work. It needs to be a catchy tune/beat already established in people's memory to stand a chance of catching on. I expect there'd be royalties to pay but that will probably apply for just about anything we already use.
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Amarillo should be our adopted song.
... But there's not much point in any music with the sound system we've got.
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Belle vue bar
Absolutely criminal the lack of seating in there.
In fact the far end from the entrance, you could easily make better use of that space.
Lick of paint, tables and chairs, a few more TV’s (and actually turn them on). You could probably make it into a bit of a sports bar area.
At the moment there’s a couple of rows of chairs packed in too close to each other, all looking at one tv. It’s so dull and boring.
You could easily spruce that area up and it wouldn’t cost the world.
Generally agree there should be more seating and tables.
Whilst I generally support allowing away fans in, quite often as away coaches seem to arrive well before kick off, away fans seem to get the best choice of seats with tables because there isn't enough. Maybe if there's likely to be a larger number of away fans (say more than 500) contributing to a larger attendance overall, then limit the bar to home fans only. However, still think the main issue is not enough seating.
Appreciate the bar is not the sole use for Rovers and needs to be flexible but the match day set up should be looked at by fans, for fans.
Otherwise, I think the bar plus the outdoor seating, burger bar work quite well.
Good luck Phil in prioritising all the suggestions.
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The bar would benefit from an overhaul it’s soulless and I agree re the tables.
We’ve had some great matchday initiatives that just seem to die off - used to think the pie one was quite good
Whatever happened to the bookies in the ground not really condoning it just a general question
The main thing is the sound though - the video they play is painful as it can’t be heard.
The historical videos we’ve had previously were brilliant and got you revved up for the game
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Belle vue bar
Absolutely criminal the lack of seating in there.
In fact the far end from the entrance, you could easily make better use of that space.
Lick of paint, tables and chairs, a few more TV’s (and actually turn them on). You could probably make it into a bit of a sports bar area.
At the moment there’s a couple of rows of chairs packed in too close to each other, all looking at one tv. It’s so dull and boring.
You could easily spruce that area up and it wouldn’t cost the world.
Absolutely, it’s certainly not best use of space.
The 2 or 3 rows of seats lined up facing a tiny TV, what’s that all about? As you say mush, get some tables that sit half a dozen people on in there.
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Can we have Stella back in the BVB?
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It feels like people have stopped moaning about the food and service these days.
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The forum is not a place for brainstorming as one of the crucial success provisions of a brainstorming session is that participants try to enhance and amplify suggestions from others not destroy them .Brainstorming is a good tool if used within the appropriate parameters .
So to try to enhance rather than destroy Lincoln’s request my suggestion is that the new group that has been formed to make up the Shadow Board meet as a team to collate the various suggestions they have received and brainstorm them together into shape.
Organisational behaviour ( OB)should be a central concern in all business schools and practised in all organisations .OB is not a soft discipline but a vital set of management tools and behaviours .
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Motorhead has been replaced by the reytons now I think on the music. I dont mind Red Smoke. The sound system is expensive but it needs sorting, struggle to hear the interviews.. also too loud at times.
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With regards to the on pitch interviews, from the south stand, very often it is a bit like listening to someone underwater trying to speak.
A shame really because no doubt that some of the ex player interviews would be nice to hear.
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Example of a Brainstorming session on one single point .
Participant 1 A club anthem should be adopted by approaching a professional musician.
P2 Yeah we should go with Amarillo.
P3 We could ask Louis Tomlinson to help out or contact the Amarillo man for us .
P4 I will talk to the club to see if they can contact Louis .
Idea sorted !
This probably is teaching many posters involved in everyday management to ‘ suck eggs ’;but it is only attempting to be constructive .
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No sodding music at all when the players are coming out. Aside from a goal it's arguably the loudest fans are and they're drowned out
As a contradiction, bring back venga boys when we score :scarf: :thumbsup:
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A massive TV on the wall perpendicular to the concourse in the West Stand rather than the two piddly things at each end.
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Unfortunately anything that requires music/sound/speech isn’t worthwhile implementing until the PA system is replaced. Not being negative, just honest.
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Change the music that they run out to at the start of the second half
Enter Sandman (if that’s what it is) does not work. (I appreciate that there will be Metallica fans about to shoot me down).
I’m not saying boys are back in town is the answer but something livelier and to get the crowd hyped would be better
It's been the Reytons this season which is much better as walkout music, and does get the crowd lifted I think.
There's a fine balancing act between encouraging an atmosphere and crowd noise, and then drowning it out or creating something sterile (like Port Vale's clap prompts).
We don't have a natural anthem to sing - Liverpool singing You'll Never Walk Alone or the Sheff U Greasy Chip Butty song can't be added by a committee - it's long standing local / cultural identity.
I don't think the matchday offer is half bad, you can get decent grub, a half decent pint, stadium for the most part is tidy enough, the outdoor chat and music by Belle Vue Bar is decent and pre-match / half time chat is pretty standard for clubs this size.
The harsh reality is that the main overriding factor in match day experience is the team - what happens on the pitch. And for a while recently that's been dreadful. McCann gave us a shot in the arm last year, and again we need to kick on and move in the right direction to get fans in and keep them happy. After a good win or a great performance the crowd will all stay behind and clap the team, walking out you'll hear positivity and satisfied customers.
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A functioning sound system
Is there no safety concerns from having a PA system that can’t be used to communicate messages?
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The large banners of Rovers legends (Copps, Dougie, Sir Francis etc) need replacing or updating. The sun has faded them over the years and it is getting more & more difficult to see whos who. Can this be brought up please.
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Hi everyone.
Some excellent suggestions on here, with the first meeting this Saturday. Could I please ask is there anything else you’d like to be considered?
This will be the catalyst, we hope, for making things even better.
Like the shadow board, this group will be round for some time to come & we will update the progress.
Thank you as always.
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The bar would benefit from an overhaul it’s soulless and I agree re the tables.
We’ve had some great matchday initiatives that just seem to die off - used to think the pie one was quite good
Whatever happened to the bookies in the ground not really condoning it just a general question
The main thing is the sound though - the video they play is painful as it can’t be heard.
The historical videos we’ve had previously were brilliant and got you revved up for the game
With regards to the on pitch interviews, from the south stand, very often it is a bit like listening to someone underwater trying to speak.
A shame really because no doubt that some of the ex player interviews would be nice to hear.
Excellent point. We invite Legends of the Club to induct them into a Hall of Fame type set up and then fail them totally by letting their answers get lost using the (never really been any good) PA set up
Only Mascots fare a bit better as they tend to "speak up" a bit and give shorter answers when asked for a score for the game or a favourite player
Contrast that with asking an old player for something from the past which requires a lengthy sentence and it's chalk and cheese
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One subject I have raised with GB in the past is the unreserved seating in the south stand.
Many who go early, go straight to seats and thus do not spend money at the concourse bars. Also some again don’t go back to the concourse at half time because the seat they were sitting will be occupied by others. One possible suggestion I put to GB was possibly some blocks to be reserved, with rest unreserved.
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How about some outdoor lighting for the dark nights, father in law has said for a while that it is needed.
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Colfromdonny
Any particular area of the ground?
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Hi, the area near the stadium perimeter is very dark after matches at the moment and all night games of course. Thanks.
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Can I ask why Amarillo?
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Could be because Tony Christie is a fan (I have heard anyway) and that he is a local man.
Plus it a really good sing a long number.
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Change the music that they run out to at the start of the second half
Enter Sandman (if that’s what it is) does not work. (I appreciate that there will be Metallica fans about to shoot me down).
I’m not saying boys are back in town is the answer but something livelier and to get the crowd hyped would be better
It’s Triple Hs old theme music from WWE
For me the goal music is terrible, used to love Tom hark back in the day, especially when the players joined in the celebration
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Credit to the club for sorting the food and beer .
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One subject I have raised with GB in the past is the unreserved seating in the south stand.
Many who go early, go straight to seats and thus do not spend money at the concourse bars. Also some again don’t go back to the concourse at half time because the seat they were sitting will be occupied by others. One possible suggestion I put to GB was possibly some blocks to be reserved, with rest unreserved.
That seems like it would be a nightmare to police.
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We need decent and regular buses on Match Days. Its a longer walk from the train station when you are over 70.
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One subject I have raised with GB in the past is the unreserved seating in the south stand.
Many who go early, go straight to seats and thus do not spend money at the concourse bars. Also some again don’t go back to the concourse at half time because the seat they were sitting will be occupied by others. One possible suggestion I put to GB was possibly some blocks to be reserved, with rest unreserved.
That seems like it would be a nightmare to police.
Going back to reserved seating would be a step backwards in tge matchday experience and atmosphere
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I think some Christmas lights around the exterior of the west and south stands would look great. ( red and white of course)
Obviously done properly and not some cheap ones from home bargains.
I drove past the sheff wednesday ground recently, and the effort they put
into their display is impressive. They've gone all blue and white and looks great, I hate to admit.
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One subject I have raised with GB in the past is the unreserved seating in the south stand.
Many who go early, go straight to seats and thus do not spend money at the concourse bars. Also some again don’t go back to the concourse at half time because the seat they were sitting will be occupied by others. One possible suggestion I put to GB was possibly some blocks to be reserved, with rest unreserved.
That seems like it would be a nightmare to police.
Which is exactly why we didn't do it in the first place. Initially we had talked about maybe 3 or 4 hundred seats in the middle block but it was apparent that you'd have 'creep' from other sections without a massive stewarding operation.
Common sense prevailed.
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We need decent and regular buses on Match Days. Its a longer walk from the train station when you are over 70.
Is the bus service no longer operational?
I was the one who instigated it in the first place but I haven't had anything to do with it in recent seasons. Does it need looking at again?
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Five things I miss from days gone by
- signed stuff for sale in BVB (btw when did signed team photos go out of fashion- would love one)
- chance that someone sat close, ideally vegetarian, would win a tray of pies
- being able to park at outlet
- bagpipes on a night game
- team sheets readily available
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Belle vue bar
Absolutely criminal the lack of seating in there.
In fact the far end from the entrance, you could easily make better use of that space.
Lick of paint, tables and chairs, a few more TV’s (and actually turn them on). You could probably make it into a bit of a sports bar area.
At the moment there’s a couple of rows of chairs packed in too close to each other, all looking at one tv. It’s so dull and boring.
You could easily spruce that area up and it wouldn’t cost the world.
Just going back to this. Having seen this VLOG from last night Fleetwood match, their bar (Jim's Bar) I think is something we should aspire to with the overall look together with the different types of seating, plus TVs etc.
6:15 mins in.
https://youtu.be/xW-sZD6oqds?si=lnflGVG-SA0-Vi9c
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I think some Christmas lights around the exterior of the west and south stands would look great. ( red and white of course)
Obviously done properly and not some cheap ones from home bargains.
I drove past the sheff wednesday ground recently, and the effort they put
into their display is impressive. They've gone all blue and white and looks great, I hate to admit.
Lighting and even light projections is something we've considered in the past including quotes from specialist firms, and not just for Christmas, however, it seems we have fewer night matches these days, so the impact over a season would be limited, so we have to consider if the outlay is really worth it. It's one of those nice to haves.
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Belle vue bar
Absolutely criminal the lack of seating in there.
In fact the far end from the entrance, you could easily make better use of that space.
Lick of paint, tables and chairs, a few more TV’s (and actually turn them on). You could probably make it into a bit of a sports bar area.
At the moment there’s a couple of rows of chairs packed in too close to each other, all looking at one tv. It’s so dull and boring.
You could easily spruce that area up and it wouldn’t cost the world.
Just going back to this. Having seen this VLOG from last night Fleetwood match, their bar (Jim's Bar) I think is something we should aspire to with the overall look together with the different types of seating, plus TVs etc.
6:15 mins in.
https://youtu.be/xW-sZD6oqds?si=lnflGVG-SA0-Vi9c
Exactly the kind of thing I meant!
Genuinely I don’t think it would cost the world, just a bit of effort and desire.
At the moment it just looks like we can’t be arsed, throw a couple of rows of awkwardly positioned seats down, it’ll do.
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We need decent and regular buses on Match Days. Its a longer walk from the train station when you are over 70.
Is the bus service no longer operational?
I was the one who instigated it in the first place but I haven't had anything to do with it in recent seasons. Does it need looking at again?
Yes I remember you replying to my post at the time. I haven't been able to come a lot this season, but had no joy and walked each time. I think it's worth a query from you.
Many thanks
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We need decent and regular buses on Match Days. Its a longer walk from the train station when you are over 70.
Is the bus service no longer operational?
I was the one who instigated it in the first place but I haven't had anything to do with it in recent seasons. Does it need looking at again?
Yes I remember you replying to my post at the time. I haven't been able to come a lot this season, but had no joy and walked each time. I think it's worth a query from you.
Many thanks
I will. I'm not sure of the current arrangements but I will check.
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We also need to be very clear as to what is being asked here, most items on this list are customer service issues and should be dealt with as such. That's the correct channel.
I did find that Supporter Board meetings taken up with customer service issues was a waste of everybody's time, especially talking about nails in the car park!
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The couple behind me in the west stand always leave a few minutes before the end to get first in the queue for the bus. They are sometimes still there when I walk to the car.
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The couple behind me in the west stand always leave a few minutes before the end to get first in the queue for the bus. They are sometimes still there when I walk to the car.
I'm going back to the early years of the Keepmoat, and a chap who used to squeeze past me on our row at every home game when he left 10 minutes before the end. When I asked him why he said that's because the bus left bang on the final whistle. That's why we created the partnership with First buses, and it all came out of that conversation.
I need to see what's happened.
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Motorhead has been replaced by the reytons now I think on the music. I dont mind Red Smoke. The sound system is expensive but it needs sorting, struggle to hear the interviews.. also too loud at times.
decent P.A-would be an investment and provide a more pleasurable match day experience where music and information relaying are concerned!
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Listening to the vlogs on YouTube from Fleetwood we could do with getting the company that did the sound system there it sounded concert level good
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Motorhead has been replaced by the reytons now I think on the music. I dont mind Red Smoke. The sound system is expensive but it needs sorting, struggle to hear the interviews.. also too loud at times.
decent P.A-would be an investment and provide a more pleasurable match day experience where music and information relaying are concerned!
Yes, it's been discussed a few times. We did talk about an alternative way of doing things at our last meeting, it was just a suggestion but it may work. A few trials will be the way forward.
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Just an observation that I also think is worth mentioning; the amount of litter in and around the trees/hedges around the whole stadium complex is a disgrace. It’s particularly bad around the 5 aside pitches and the giant skips (irony). I know it’s not a massive thing for some, but it just makes the area look tatty and not very well cared for. Not sure who is responsible for the landscaping areas around the stadium, but it certainly wouldn’t harm to get it cleaned up a bit
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The wider definition of the Match-day Experience would include the problems some of us have in getting into Rovers+. Can the Shadow Board help there please and possibly also look at the team profile section? Click on the player’s picture and you get another page with just half a picture - nothing else. It really is not good enough.
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The wider definition of the Match-day Experience would include the problems some of us have in getting into Rovers+. Can the Shadow Board help there please and possibly also look at the team profile section? Click on the player’s picture and you get another page with just half a picture - nothing else. It really is not good enough.
Maybe email Liam Hoden, actually ask the shadow board to type the email for you ;)
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Just an observation that I also think is worth mentioning; the amount of litter in and around the trees/hedges around the whole stadium complex is a disgrace. It’s particularly bad around the 5 aside pitches and the giant skips (irony). I know it’s not a massive thing for some, but it just makes the area look tatty and not very well cared for. Not sure who is responsible for the landscaping areas around the stadium, but it certainly wouldn’t harm to get it cleaned up a bit
Couldn’t agree more.
The amount of litter in the hedgerows on the approach to the Stadium from XP school (is that what it is?) is disgusting.
Some people are just pig ignorant.
I think this is a good one for a fans’ initiative to organise a major litter-picking exercise.
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Can the shadow board get us a win please
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Always thought the set up and Lincoln is always good for a pre match atmosphere. Got local burger vans and things outside the bar with a big large outdoor drinking area both home and away fans welcome.
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Lovely sunny, warm days at the beginning of the season. We have a brilliant burger van, outside seating & you can get yourself a pint in the BVB & bring it outside…….only to have any hope of conversation drowned out by f***ing rap music from speakers less than ten feet away!
C’mon, look at the ‘average’ age group there. I’m not asking for Frank bloody Sinatra but let’s tone it down a bit both literally & metaphorically!
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Can the toad brewery re open please ?
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Lovely sunny, warm days at the beginning of the season. We have a brilliant burger van, outside seating & you can get yourself a pint in the BVB & bring it outside…….only to have any hope of conversation drowned out by f***ing rap music from speakers less than ten feet away!
C’mon, look at the ‘average’ age group there. I’m not asking for Frank bloody Sinatra but let’s tone it down a bit both literally & metaphorically!
Totally agree, mate, but I'd draw the line at BB and Wolfie's suggestion of the Billy Cotton Band Show.
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Idea suggested that fans choose the tunes for individual matches.
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Not that we have a space anywhere near as big, but The Locker at Walsall was very impressive.
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Can we get the tvs turned on in the west stand concourse?
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Can we sack off the fancy snap. Takes too long pissing about serving up the loaded fries and all that shite. Nobody needs anything other than a pie, hotdog or a burger at football.
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Can we sack off the fancy snap. Takes too long pissing about serving up the loaded fries and all that shite. Nobody needs anything others than a pie, hotdog or a burger at football.
This in spades ^^^
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Can we sack off the fancy snap. Takes too long pissing about serving up the loaded fries and all that shite. Nobody needs anything others than a pie, hotdog or a burger at football.
This in spades ^^^
Perhaps if they shovelled the food up with spades it wouldn’t take as long?
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Nah I like the loaded fries, don't take it away from others just because you don't like it.