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Title: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 06:39:07 pm
Team tonight   

     1, I. Lawlor
    25, J. McGrath
     4, T. Anderson (c), Captain
    34, J. Emmanuel
    27, B. Fleming
    22, P. Kelly
    33, B. Close
    15, H. Clifton
    11, J. Gibson
    10, J. Sbarra
    20, J. Ironside

Substitutes
    17, O. Bailey
    21, K. Hurst
     3, J. Maxwell
     7, L. Molyneux
   19, T. Sharman-Lowe
   14, B. Sharp
   24, Z. Westbrooke
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 06:51:20 pm
Thanks Dutch
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 06:54:36 pm
I see that Port Vale have Conor Grant playing..... at left back.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Silkscarf on December 10, 2024, 07:02:05 pm
I’m at daughter’s carol concert so I’m relying on LuckyPint.com tonight
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 07:07:48 pm
Fairly even start - Vale slick passing but we had first shot deflected for a corner
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: RoverinLincs on December 10, 2024, 07:09:08 pm
What does Westbrook need to do to get a game?

Close given the ball away twice in 2 minutes putting us under pressure
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: RoverinLincs on December 10, 2024, 07:11:37 pm
Emanurl looking solid
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: jmt23 on December 10, 2024, 07:12:34 pm
This could be a very well balanced midfield, legs with Kelly, pressing in your face from Clifton, and passing guile from close
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Draytonian III on December 10, 2024, 07:18:51 pm
The commentator has got very interesting voice
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: RoversInSpain on December 10, 2024, 07:22:28 pm
This could be a very well balanced midfield, legs with Kelly, pressing in your face from Clifton, and passing guile from close
Thank you for the giggle, ‘the passing guile of Close’
Brilliant dry humour!
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dknward2 on December 10, 2024, 07:23:02 pm
Starting to do better
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 07:23:22 pm
Think we were just called for offside there when a deflected shot fell to our player. Didn't Fleetwood score against us under similar circumstances?
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 07:25:12 pm
Brilliant turn and run and cross by Emmanuel

And now Clifton just hit a post
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: RoverinLincs on December 10, 2024, 07:25:30 pm
Clifton smashed against the post
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dknward2 on December 10, 2024, 07:25:59 pm
Think we were just called for offside there when a deflected shot fell to our player. Didn't Fleetwood score against us under similar circumstances?

Thought exactly the same
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: RoverinLincs on December 10, 2024, 07:26:37 pm
Rovers have them pinned in their own half, much better
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 07:28:54 pm
Fab save from Lawlor there...
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 07:30:09 pm
Fleming playing well.... we are in the ascendancy...
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 07:33:59 pm
Their nr 25 is regularly 'leaving something on our players'
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: RoverinLincs on December 10, 2024, 07:36:22 pm
Why are our throw ins always so shit? We always look clueless
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Nudga on December 10, 2024, 07:42:18 pm
Liam and Peter could talk a glass eye to sleep.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 07:43:09 pm
Liam and Peter could talk a glass eye to sleep.

But still better than Mr Walker...
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 10, 2024, 07:43:52 pm
Clifton smashed against the post
There's just no discipline nowadays. Players should be breathalysed before kick-off.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: RoversInSpain on December 10, 2024, 07:46:26 pm
Clifton smashed against the post
There's just no discipline nowadays. Players should be breathalysed before kick-off.
Very good! Like it
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: bigbadjack on December 10, 2024, 07:46:45 pm
Bit like a training match this
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Nudga on December 10, 2024, 07:47:27 pm
Liam and Peter could talk a glass eye to sleep.

But still better than Mr Walker...

Yes definitely
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 07:48:33 pm
Ironside hits the beans
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dknward2 on December 10, 2024, 07:48:55 pm
Ironside off the post after a great cross from Emanuel
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 07:49:05 pm
HT 0-0
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 10, 2024, 07:49:47 pm
Going the classic way, Rovers all over them, can't score, they get one through a mistake, game over.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Thorney on December 10, 2024, 07:50:08 pm
How that by ironside didnt go in. Dont normally come back out when they hit the inside of the post
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 10, 2024, 07:53:20 pm
Apart from Emmanual not one good cross from left or right.
Gibson and Sbarra need to do better.
Kelly looses the ball to easily and his  passing is not good
We’ve played ok better than PortVale but still not good enough in wide areas and Kelly in midfield no end product
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: i_ateallthepies on December 10, 2024, 07:56:27 pm
Entertaining half of football, more please.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 07:56:35 pm
Apart from Emmanual not one good cross from left or right.
Gibson and Sbarra need to do better.
Kelly looses the ball to easily and his  passing is not good
We’ve played ok better than PortVale but still not good enough in wide areas and Kelly in midfield no end product

I have to disagree - think Fleming has put in 2 or 3 good crosses... both him and Emmanuel have had a good half..
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 10, 2024, 07:57:08 pm
Their nr 25 is regularly 'leaving something on our players'

How he hasn't been shown a yellow is laughable, two fouls in as many minutes, first a definite yellow.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dknward2 on December 10, 2024, 07:58:04 pm
At least if we need it we have a strong bench
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 07:59:10 pm
.... I actually think that Gibson has done well also - very lively and showing for the ball.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Drover on December 10, 2024, 07:59:21 pm
We still got the 'A' team to call on from the bench if we need to.

Sorry dknward2,keep having to repost and seen crossed over with your comment
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: RoversInSpain on December 10, 2024, 08:00:29 pm
Unfortunate not to be 2 up. Despite our current ability to play very nicely upto the box and then scuff/ miss hit the last cross/shot we still managed to hit the woodwork twice.
Emmanuel is doing an impression of Adaluken, McGrath dominant with a worldie pass or two.
Ironside giving it everything. Gibson neat until he sees the penalty area.
Some really nice work from Flemming too.
Anderson owes Lawlor a beer after being totally done, Lawlor with the great save.

Ben Close…. Please leave. He should be running a game like this.

Very surprised if we don’t win this , 2-0 ish
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: i_ateallthepies on December 10, 2024, 08:03:13 pm
First goal will be crucial
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Draytonian III on December 10, 2024, 08:04:58 pm
Playing at the Keepmoat Stadium
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: drfchound on December 10, 2024, 08:05:59 pm
“Doncaster in their red shirts with white sleeves”
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dknward2 on December 10, 2024, 08:12:45 pm
Come on donny one goal will win this
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 10, 2024, 08:13:48 pm
There we have it again Gibson runs down the left and looses it  ball drops to Kelly who again looses the ball not good enough
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 10, 2024, 08:14:18 pm
“Doncaster in their red shirts with white sleeves”

Haha, thinks he's at a Rovrum game!
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Fal on December 10, 2024, 08:15:04 pm
“Some have called it the Darren Moore Derby”

No mate, just you
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 08:15:10 pm
cracking challenge by McGrath there to win the ball mid pitch.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 08:15:46 pm
Emmanuel having a great game
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 10, 2024, 08:15:52 pm
The best left footed cross from Gibson unfortunately it landed on Sbarras head
We are in charge we need to score now
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 08:19:47 pm
I think Vale's crossing is even worse than ours :lol:
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Thorney on December 10, 2024, 08:26:33 pm
Would this go straight to pens if drawn?
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 10, 2024, 08:28:17 pm
Do not understand why Clifton comes off and  Sbarra still on the field strange
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: idler on December 10, 2024, 08:29:52 pm
Would this go hstraight to pens if drawn?
Yes, right u til the final.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 08:34:15 pm
Westbrooke and Hurst on
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 10, 2024, 08:35:19 pm
Sbarra off let’s hope can go in January loan
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dknward2 on December 10, 2024, 08:38:47 pm
Come on rovers one last push
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Thorney on December 10, 2024, 08:39:29 pm
Can tell ironside has gone off.
The ball is coming back alot quicker when we clear our lines
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 08:40:39 pm
Gibson booked, probably correct but only if their nr 25 had been booked earlier
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dknward2 on December 10, 2024, 08:41:19 pm
Only looking like penalties
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Fal on December 10, 2024, 08:42:19 pm
This has got a port vale 1-0 or win on pens written all over it and it will be undeserved
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 10, 2024, 08:43:00 pm
Yes, certainly scrappy right now

As I speak brilliant block from McGrath to deny a good chance for Vale
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: RoversInSpain on December 10, 2024, 08:43:24 pm
McGrath with the best defensive tackle since Matt Mills
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Pancho Regan on December 10, 2024, 08:44:04 pm
This has got a port vale 1-0 or win on pens written all over it and it will be undeserved

Keep the faith, we’ll win this
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: tommy toes on December 10, 2024, 08:44:11 pm
Substitutions haven’t worked.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: NickDRFC on December 10, 2024, 08:45:01 pm
McGrath with the best defensive tackle since Matt Mills

Thundering slide tackle, that. He’s done a few since getting into the team but that’s the best of them.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Pintolager on December 10, 2024, 08:46:01 pm
This has got a port vale 1-0 or win on pens written all over it and it will be undeserved

Keep the faith, we’ll win this

Here's hoping!
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Pancho Regan on December 10, 2024, 08:51:21 pm
4 mins added time
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 10, 2024, 08:51:52 pm
There we go, we cannot make the most of being dominant, and we pay the price.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: ScillyRover on December 10, 2024, 08:52:04 pm
0-1
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dknward2 on December 10, 2024, 08:52:21 pm
Port vale score FFS game over with 2 mins to play
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 10, 2024, 08:52:27 pm
It’s a shit business….
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Thorney on December 10, 2024, 08:52:31 pm
Just a lump ball up  :mad:
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Fal on December 10, 2024, 08:52:36 pm
Hate to say I told you so!
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Peebles Rover on December 10, 2024, 08:52:43 pm
Predictable
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: bpoolrover on December 10, 2024, 08:53:48 pm
Far to easy again
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: NickDRFC on December 10, 2024, 08:53:58 pm
I would say it’s a sucker punch but despite seeing a lot of the ball we’ve barely threatened in the 2nd half.

File it away and roll on Saturday, league is still the priority.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Pancho Regan on December 10, 2024, 08:54:16 pm
Stupid competition anyway
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Metalmicky on December 10, 2024, 08:55:00 pm
Undeserved, but at least it gives Vale another game (or more) to play
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 10, 2024, 08:55:09 pm
Squad of largely average players. Not good enough, Grant!
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 10, 2024, 08:55:58 pm
Hate to say I told you so!

If you hate saying it, why say it?
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Pancho Regan on December 10, 2024, 08:57:15 pm
Squad of largely average players. Not good enough, Grant!

Third in the League in December - absolutely rubbish Grant!!

Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: colincramb on December 10, 2024, 08:59:57 pm
Squad of largely average players. Not good enough, Grant!

The squad has more depth this season (possibly) but our first choice 11 is undoubtedly not as good as what we finished with at the end of last season.

Sbarra - not as effective as biggins
Gibson - not as effective as Adelakun
Kelly - nowhere near as good as Craig
TSL - not as good as TLT

Could only argue sharp is an improvement on what we had.
We are doing well to be where we are, in my opinion.

Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 10, 2024, 09:00:48 pm
Kelly can go back to West Ham in January
Sbarra loan out
Westbrooke can be moved on
Gibson needs a good talking to by GM he’s disappointing every time he plays
The midfield is not good enough to carry on competing at the level we are we need better
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dickos1 on December 10, 2024, 09:03:46 pm
Squad of largely average players. Not good enough, Grant!

Ha ha
You never fail to disappoint Alan with your nonsensical negativity
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Pancho Regan on December 10, 2024, 09:05:43 pm
Kelly can go back to West Ham in January
Sbarra loan out
Westbrooke can be moved on
Gibson needs a good talking to by GM he’s disappointing every time he plays
The midfield is not good enough to carry on competing at the level we are we need better

But other than that, how are you enjoying things Steve?

Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 10, 2024, 09:08:12 pm
Squad of largely average players. Not good enough, Grant!

Becoming increasingly obvious that there are some players that just won't help to take us where we want to be. January is going to be a big month.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Thorney on December 10, 2024, 09:09:02 pm
Kelly can go back to West Ham in January
Sbarra loan out
Westbrooke can be moved on
Gibson needs a good talking to by GM he’s disappointing every time he plays
The midfield is not good enough to carry on competing at the level we are we need better

Why loan sbarra out? Fringe player (everyteam needs them) hes 25, not exactly a young 18yr old that needs experiance.

Kelly overall been decent this season.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 10, 2024, 09:10:07 pm
Jesus… season of goodwill? Turkey? It’s just a fat bas**rd chicken…
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: colincramb on December 10, 2024, 09:10:28 pm
Squad of largely average players. Not good enough, Grant!

Ha ha
You never fail to disappoint Alan with your nonsensical negativity

I see you’ve picked out Alan, but chosen not to reply to my point about the quality of the first 11. Is that because you can’t argue with it?
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Fal on December 10, 2024, 09:12:21 pm
Ah the meltdown commences by the same bunch!

Get a grip!
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: colincramb on December 10, 2024, 09:14:24 pm
Ah the meltdown commences by the same bunch!

Get a grip!

No melt down whatsoever by me. Just making a reasonable point. Possibly try to argue it’s wrong instead of trying to find the easy way out?

I will say it again:

Sbarra - not as effective as biggins
Gibson - not as effective as Adelakun
Kelly - nowhere near as good as Craig
TSL - not as good as TLT

Could only argue sharp is an improvement on what we had.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: NickDRFC on December 10, 2024, 09:20:54 pm
Ah the meltdown commences by the same bunch!

Get a grip!

No melt down whatsoever by me. Just making a reasonable point. Possibly try to argue it’s wrong instead of trying to find the easy way out?

I will say it again:

Sbarra - not as effective as biggins
Gibson - not as effective as Adelakun
Kelly - nowhere near as good as Craig
TSL - not as good as TLT

Could only argue sharp is an improvement on what we had.


I don’t disagree with any of your comparisons but Sbarra, Gibson and arguably even Kelly aren’t in our best/1st choice XI.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: colincramb on December 10, 2024, 09:23:49 pm
Ah the meltdown commences by the same bunch!

Get a grip!

No melt down whatsoever by me. Just making a reasonable point. Possibly try to argue it’s wrong instead of trying to find the easy way out?

I will say it again:

Sbarra - not as effective as biggins
Gibson - not as effective as Adelakun
Kelly - nowhere near as good as Craig
TSL - not as good as TLT

Could only argue sharp is an improvement on what we had.


I don’t disagree with any of your comparisons but Sbarra, Gibson and arguably even Kelly aren’t in our best/1st choice XI.

But isn’t that the problem, Nick? Weren’t they brought in to replace the players I have mentioned? You could only argue biggins (although he became crucial in the run) wasn’t a guaranteed first team player?
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dickos1 on December 10, 2024, 09:33:18 pm
If we’re comparing then we need to be comparing apples with apples!
Is our starting 11 better than it was on the 10th December 2023, are we better placed than we were then?
January is a big month but not as big as it was last year, and McCann has shown he knows what he’s doing in Jan.

Back in August if anyone had said we will be 3rd in the table and in the 3rd round of the fa cup in mid December then we would of all snapped their hand off
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 10, 2024, 09:38:34 pm
Kelly can go back to West Ham in January
Sbarra loan out
Westbrooke can be moved on
Gibson needs a good talking to by GM he’s disappointing every time he plays
The midfield is not good enough to carry on competing at the level we are we need better

Why loan sbarra out? Fringe player (everyteam needs them) hes 25, not exactly a young 18yr old that needs experiance.

Kelly overall been decent this season.
God your standards must be low.
He’s not good to be a good fringe player
Kelly runs down to many blind alleys every time he plays.
Are they an improvement on Craig Adelulaken and and a fringe player in Biggins not to mention Rowe
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: colincramb on December 10, 2024, 09:44:51 pm
If we’re comparing then we need to be comparing apples with apples!
Is our starting 11 better than it was on the 10th December 2023, are we better placed than we were then?
January is a big month but not as big as it was last year, and McCann has shown he knows what he’s doing in Jan.

Back in August if anyone had said we will be 3rd in the table and in the 3rd round of the fa cup in mid December then we would of all snapped their hand off

Yeah, and I’ve said we are doing well to be where we are haven’t I? So not sure what you are arguing with. The point about comparing now to this time last year is irrelevant, so not sure what that has to do with anything.

Yeah, the club did pull off some great signings that saved us last January. Worry is we’ve had all summer to replace those that left and so far, those replacements aren’t as good. That’s my point.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Thorney on December 10, 2024, 10:08:01 pm
Kelly can go back to West Ham in January
Sbarra loan out
Westbrooke can be moved on
Gibson needs a good talking to by GM he’s disappointing every time he plays
The midfield is not good enough to carry on competing at the level we are we need better

Why loan sbarra out? Fringe player (everyteam needs them) hes 25, not exactly a young 18yr old that needs experiance.

Kelly overall been decent this season.
God your standards must be low.
He’s not good to be a good fringe player
Kelly runs down to many blind alleys every time he plays.
Are they an improvement on Craig Adelulaken and and a fringe player in Biggins not to mention Rowe

We must see things different.

We was better today before sbarra went off, he is neat and tidy on the ball and can be our most creative midfielder once given a run of games.

And the players you mentioned. The only 1 id happily have back is craig.

Biggins - 2 seasons here and only came good during last 10 games. This time last season majority of fan base wanted to have his contract terminated.

Rowe - love the player, but his time was clearly up last season.

Adelakun - might be a good player but clearly not the best attitude. A player who thinks he is above where we are and that has backfired on him. Why didnt a team higher up the chain fancy signing him? Not really set the leagues alight prior or since he departed us.
 

Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 11, 2024, 12:21:09 am
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We was better today before sbarra went off, he is neat and tidy on the ball and can be our most creative midfielder once given a run of games.

We were better until we took Clifton off then Westbrooke came on we were poor. Sbarra did nothing in this game he couldn’t take any body on.
He was consistently passing the ball backwards without Emmanuel attacking on the right side he did  nothing his passing was poor and weak. When he lost the ball he couldn’t catch any players. So no for me he’s been the worst permanent signing of the summer.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dickos1 on December 11, 2024, 05:37:40 am
Sbarra is a better player than biggins, he was here for 2 years and did absolutely nothing for the majority of that time.
We’re 3rd in the table and the negativity on here is astounding, people need to get a grip. This is the best season we’ve had in a very very long time, get behind the team rather than nit picking at everything all the time.
Folk just sit here waiting for a defeat so they can say something negative, it’s ridiculous
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: colincramb on December 11, 2024, 07:21:48 am
You absolutely cannot evidence sbarra is better than biggins. Thats just your opinion. Appears you don’t like other people being entitled to theirs though. Change the narrative about people waiting for defeats dickos, it’s predictable and boring.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: TheFunk on December 11, 2024, 10:03:58 am
Any hope of winning that game disappeared as soon as Ironside was taken off. We were the better team and should have won. Poor finishing and crossing were the only reason we lost.
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: dickos1 on December 11, 2024, 12:41:41 pm
You absolutely cannot evidence sbarra is better than biggins. Thats just your opinion. Appears you don’t like other people being entitled to theirs though. Change the narrative about people waiting for defeats dickos, it’s predictable and boring.

Of course it’s my opinion, as was yours when you stated it as factual.
End of the day, would you have been happy with our league position if asked in July.
Yes you would that’s not opinion, just fact
Title: Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
Post by: Pancho Regan on December 12, 2024, 10:35:00 pm
You absolutely cannot evidence sbarra is better than biggins. Thats just your opinion. Appears you don’t like other people being entitled to theirs though. Change the narrative about people waiting for defeats dickos, it’s predictable and boring.

Can you evidence that Sbarra is not as effective as Biggins?

Just asking.