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Peter O’Rourke on X
Tottenham are considering recalling Matthew Craig from his loan at Barnsley in January and sending him elsewhere amid interest from a number of EFL clubs. #thfc #barnsleyfc
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Fingers well and truly crossed!
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Now that would be nice !
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Does he get alot of playing time at barnsley ?
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Is yet another midfielder needed? Rather get the striker in first and worry about yet another midfielder, no matter how well he did last season, later
COYR
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We have too many average midfielders Craig would walk straight in the first team.
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We have too many average midfielders Craig would walk straight in the first team.
He hasn’t at Barnsley why would you think on present form he would walk into ours?
COYR
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We have too many average midfielders Craig would walk straight in the first team.
He hasn’t at Barnsley why would you think on present form he would walk into ours?
COYR
Because he is better than our current crop of midfielders
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Looking from Craig's perspective, this will be a blow to his future progression. If Spurs view his time at Barnsley, a failure to adapt to their playing style, wouldn't they want to give him the chance at another League One club? I'm sure he will be desperate to prove he can perform at that level.
IF, we were to put our hat in the ring, I would guess we would be down their pecking order, as he's already been there, done that. Of course, if there's no other offers from League One, then yes, they'd want him to get more game time.
From our perspective, should we bring him in, it doesn't send a good message to the likes of Broadbent and Kelly, who McCann has bigged up about their ability, and that's even before considering Close and Westbrooke's future. IF it was as simple as the latter two being sacrificed for Craig on a permanent basis, I would probably snap your hand off BUT, it isn't and I'm not convinced the midfield is the root cause of our iffy home form, which is all we're lacking at the mo.
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Do we want promotion or do we wait another year to see if all these players improve?
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Do we want promotion or do we wait another year to see if all these players improve?
As far as Craig is concerned, it won't be in our hands Alan. We will get promoted if we take more of our chances at home.
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We have too many average midfielders Craig would walk straight in the first team.
He hasn’t at Barnsley why would you think on present form he would walk into ours?
COYR
Because he is better than our current crop of midfielders
His current form doesn’t seem to back that up
COYR
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We have too many average midfielders Craig would walk straight in the first team.
He hasn’t at Barnsley why would you think on present form he would walk into ours?
COYR
Because he is better than our current crop of midfielders
His current form doesn’t seem to back that up
COYR
Not really a form thing it’s an ability thing. He’s just not good enough currently to play for a top end L1 side but he is good enough to play for a top end L2 side.
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Can see him going somewhere like Stevenage or Cambridge.
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He improved our midfield when he was here,and it does look to have slumped back to being nondescript - what do they offer, what are they doing…
I like Clifto, he is a like for like replacement of Biggins for me, I am not sure about the others at all.
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I thought Craig looked like an accomplished and mature defensive midfielder when he was here. He was instrumental in our incredible run of form. At 21, he's still got a lot of learning and experiences to have, but the talent and ability is undoubtedly there and anyone who questions that is talking shite.
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It clearly hasn’t worked at a higher level for him though- is that playing style or tougher competition that the higher level brings? I suspect Spurs will want to find that out, so wouldn’t expect him to drop back down.
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Remind me what sort of contract he has at Spurs?
It could be they may want to cash in early, if they think he’s not meeting expectations?
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He's contracted to 2026.
https://hotspurhq.com/spurs-loan-watch-club-considering-recalling-midfielder-at-league-one-side-
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We have too many average midfielders Craig would walk straight in the first team.
He hasn’t at Barnsley why would you think on present form he would walk into ours?
COYR
Because he is better than our current crop of midfielders
His current form doesn’t seem to back that up
COYR
Not really a good statement though.
Form for a top end league 1 club doesnt mean that he wont find it at a club that suits his style in league 2.
TLT and Adelakun wasnt setting the leagues alight back in January when we brought them in.
Quality shines through when you find a club and style that makes you enjoy football, maybe he just hasnt enjoyed his time from being at barnsley
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Probably never got to grips with the language there. ;)
(Sorry tyke, only joking mate).
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If it’s not worked out at a higher level, surely the time to test the water with a solid bid.
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Our midfield has to be the priority, we're weak there, inexplicably so given the numbers we have - but, Close has checked out long ago, Tuesday night he didn't make more that a two yard pass backwards or sidesways and he's knocked off the ball way too easily, Westbrook looked lost but admittedly he's just coming back in, Broadbent still can't find the consistency we need, Kelly is ok but plays like a Sunday league player - picks it up and runs but can give it away and end up in trouble, Sbarra is lightweight and again inconsistent. I like Clifton, he's busy and aggressive - but not a baller particularly. Bailey is our ray of sunshine but can't do it on his own. Craig would be huge to sort this out.
Even out wide we're looking a bit lacklustre. Moly seems to have lost some confidence, Gibson is a one good game / two bad games player, Yeboah is a joke, Hurst has looked decent to me but can't seem to get a good run consistently in a position. Overlapping wide men worked on Tuesday, Emmanuel was excellent and dynamic going forward and Fleming decent too. A Haks type player again would be a game-changer - goals and assists is what we're lacking!
Keeper-wise I think TSL is decent - if we don't have cash to splash I'd focus on a quality quality midfielder and decent wide-player.
Yeboah can go back, rip up Close's contract, Sbarra out on loan - free up more cash to invest in quality.
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Craig looked the type of player that needed a good run of games to establish himself in our midfield and that hasn't happened .
As ever over here the new HC starts the season looking to fit the pieces together whilst trying to attain decent results .
Our continued league one status coupled with almost 11 months of dreadful home form leaves the Oakwell faithful with very little patience and keeping faith with a young player trying to find his feet isn't likely to keep you in a job at Oakwell for too long .
Craig is at the wrong club and given our struggles it's at the wrong time and it's probably best he moves to a club in January where he can best develop .
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If it’s not worked out at a higher level, surely the time to test the water with a solid bid.
We did something similar when we got Whiteman and that didn’t turn out too bad!
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If a player like craig became available it would be stupid not to try and get him, he has already proved himself as more than good enough
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Think there are some blinkered views on here Craig was pants his first few games and then found a rhythm.
Quite like Sbarra and Clifton - still think we are missing the end of season Biggins and even more surprised we gave Close and Westbrook new contracts
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Think there are some blinkered views on here Craig was pants his first few games and then found a rhythm.
Quite like Sbarra and Clifton - still think we are missing the end of season Biggins and even more surprised we gave Close and Westbrook new contracts
While Craig was great I think we’ve forgotten that he got hauled off when we were losing in the Barrow comeback game. And was completely anonymous in the Crewe semi final 2nd leg.
If we’ve got the 2nd best defence in the league (xG) and the ‘most touches in the opposition box’ is the midfield really a problem?
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Think there are some blinkered views on here Craig was pants his first few games and then found a rhythm.
Quite like Sbarra and Clifton - still think we are missing the end of season Biggins and even more surprised we gave Close and Westbrook new contracts
While Craig was great I think we’ve forgotten that he got hauled off when we were losing in the Barrow comeback game. And was completely anonymous in the Crewe semi final 2nd leg.
If we’ve got the 2nd best defence in the league (xG) and the ‘most touches in the opposition box’ is the midfield really a problem?
He was outstanding in the away leg at Crewe
Who played well in the 2nd leg please?
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Think there are some blinkered views on here Craig was pants his first few games and then found a rhythm.
Quite like Sbarra and Clifton - still think we are missing the end of season Biggins and even more surprised we gave Close and Westbrook new contracts
While Craig was great I think we’ve forgotten that he got hauled off when we were losing in the Barrow comeback game. And was completely anonymous in the Crewe semi final 2nd leg.
If we’ve got the 2nd best defence in the league (xG) and the ‘most touches in the opposition box’ is the midfield really a problem?
I think he had a lot of pain killer injections just to be able to pull on his boots that day. No surprise he was less than at his best.
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Think there are some blinkered views on here Craig was pants his first few games and then found a rhythm.
Quite like Sbarra and Clifton - still think we are missing the end of season Biggins and even more surprised we gave Close and Westbrook new contracts
Doesn't matter how good a player Craig is , if the balance in midfield isn't right they become less effective and can look average at best. Craig & Bailey complimented each other well and as you say I agree about Biggins he's a big miss for us on that 2nd half of season form. Don't underestimate Craig's importance to that team, our midfield has fallen short ever since Whiteman left and has more often than not left out defence & attack looking fragile. We should be pushing the boat out at all costs to get him back for the rest of the season at the very least.
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I really like/d Craig but IF he came back to us it’s likely to take a while to bed in
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No suprise Bailey's form has dropped off at times this season without Craig at the side of him
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No suprise Bailey's form has dropped off at times this season without Craig at the side of him
Always the same for versatile players, they get played all over the place, eventually you forget what was their best position!
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Don't understand the criticism of some of our players in here , Ironside is suddenly shit according to some and Bailey's now not all that good . KDB's hardly running the show at City without Rodri , doesn't matter how good you are you still need that combination or catalyst around you to succeed, all great midfields have that perfect balance.
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I don’t understand why you say Baileys been Criticised for me he’s been ok. I prefer him in a deep role unless Broadbent is playing but that’s down to Grant.
Others after those two in order Clifton comes after them hard working and he getting closer to scoring.
Kelly for me has not shown the control in his game if we can get better, which we need then for me he can go back to West Ham.
Close and Westbrooke should never had been re-signed we need better.
So back to Craig when he was with us he played the deeper role and did brilliantly at Barnsley when I’ve seen him he’s been in more attacking role. So we will see what Grant does in January.
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I don’t understand why you say Baileys been Criticised for me he’s been ok. I prefer him in a deep role unless Broadbent is playing but that’s down to Grant.
Others after those two in order Clifton comes after them hard working and he getting closer to scoring.
Kelly for me has not shown the control in his game if we can get better, which we need then for me he can go back to West Ham.
Close and Westbrooke should never had been re-signed we need better.
So back to Craig when he was with us he played the deeper role and did brilliantly at Barnsley when I’ve seen him he’s been in more attacking role. So we will see what Grant does in January.
This is very true. GM has kept shuffling the pack with different shapes and personnel. Sometimes his choices work very well. For example, bringing Broadbent back in at Fleetwood and giving Bailey a license to go more further forward. The next game v Cheltenham it wasn't as fluid for various reasons.
As you say, Clifton at times when leading the press from midfield, with two sitters behind him, Bailey and Broadbent or Kelly sometimes works very well.
From what McCann has said, he expects the players to be able to adapt to the different tactical shapes from prematch to during games.
We're used to enforced changes through injury but it seems sometimes harder to fathom when we'd expect a settled midfield trio would gradually improve . The second half of last season saw less chopping and changing as the team pretty much picked itself. Now, nobody has a clue what the starting XI is likely to be.
What's to say IF Craig was to come, that tactical tinkering would stop?
But again, is centre mid really our problem?
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It’s part of the problem, certainly.
Admittedly there are others - wide forwards being one of the others.
When Billy signed we had 3 strikers. It wasn’t long before we were back to only having 2, so that’s an area for concern (injury/suspension).
3 players needed imho.
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I don’t understand why you say Baileys been Criticised for me he’s been ok. I prefer him in a deep role unless Broadbent is playing but that’s down to Grant.
Others after those two in order Clifton comes after them hard working and he getting closer to scoring.
Kelly for me has not shown the control in his game if we can get better, which we need then for me he can go back to West Ham.
Close and Westbrooke should never had been re-signed we need better.
So back to Craig when he was with us he played the deeper role and did brilliantly at Barnsley when I’ve seen him he’s been in more attacking role. So we will see what Grant does in January.
There were a few people on here the other week slating his recent performances Steve. Saying he's not as good as what people think and not capable of stepping up in league 1. Beggars belief really , yeah he might have had a drop off in form at times this season but the guys been pretty much an ever present in our side since he started. Like you say the renewal of Close was a bizarre one , can half understand signing Westbrook as he's more dynamic & did the business when Coventry got promoted, don't think his injury record is that great though ?
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Is yet another midfielder needed? Rather get the striker in first and worry about yet another midfielder, no matter how well he did last season, later
COYR
Yes it REALLY is.
We've been awful in the middle of the park all season.
Broadbent, Kelly. Obvious weak spots every week.
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Probably better when we don’t have possession in midfield. That’s not really our gig.
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Bailey and Broadbent are plodders - undynamic, steady-eddy, and uninspiring.
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I know Broadbent played well 2nd half last week but he was non descriptive again today
Never laid a finger on them.
Passing abysmal and he cost us the goal.
Clifton needs to start regularly imo.
If we can get Mathew Craig back it’s a no brainer for me.
Bailey is currently doing the work of 2 players
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Broadbent was horrendous today. Certainly shouldn’t be starting games for us. He’s just not good enough consistently.
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There are numerous players in the squad who are just not good enough consistently.
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There are numerous players in the squad who are just not good enough consistently.
Hurst is another one.
Has a good performance and earns a start but then is largely anonymous when he starts games.
Has to come off the bench.
Bradford he was unbelievable but it’s not often enough.
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There are numerous players in the squad who are just not good enough consistently.
Hurst is another one.
Has a good performance and earns a start but then is largely anonymous when he starts games.
Has to come off the bench.
Bradford he was unbelievable but it’s not often enough.
We had a real clear plan at Bradford and could play our suited counter attack style against a team who were bound to hand loads of possession. We struggle when we have to force a game because we can’t string three passes together.
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I know Broadbent played well 2nd half last week but he was non descriptive again today
Never laid a finger on them.
Passing abysmal and he cost us the goal.
Clifton needs to start regularly imo.
If we can get Mathew Craig back it’s a no brainer for me.
Bailey is currently doing the work of 2 players
Clifton was released by Grimsby because he was bad on the ball. That wouldn’t help Bailey.
I’m not sure why Westbrooke has been frozen out. He is a ball player. But then again even when he is fit everyone jumps on his back for some reason.
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I know Broadbent played well 2nd half last week but he was non descriptive again today
Never laid a finger on them.
Passing abysmal and he cost us the goal.
Clifton needs to start regularly imo.
If we can get Mathew Craig back it’s a no brainer for me.
Bailey is currently doing the work of 2 players
Clifton was released by Grimsby because he was bad on the ball. That wouldn’t help Bailey.
I’m not sure why Westbrooke has been frozen out. He is a ball player. But then again even when he is fit everyone jumps on his back for some reason.
Clifton wasn’t released, he turned down a contract offer
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I know Broadbent played well 2nd half last week but he was non descriptive again today
Never laid a finger on them.
Passing abysmal and he cost us the goal.
Clifton needs to start regularly imo.
If we can get Mathew Craig back it’s a no brainer for me.
Bailey is currently doing the work of 2 players
Clifton was released by Grimsby because he was bad on the ball. That wouldn’t help Bailey.
I’m not sure why Westbrooke has been frozen out. He is a ball player. But then again even when he is fit everyone jumps on his back for some reason.
He hasn’t been frozen out
He has been injured all season and was on the bench today.
Clifton was voted best player at Grimsby for about the last 4 seasons and was not released.
He was offered a better deal at Rovers and turned down Grimsby’s offer of a new contract
Why do people post stuff which is not factual.
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Apologies I got mixed up.
The Grimsby fans did say that about him though.
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Apologies I got mixed up.
The Grimsby fans did say that about him though.
The Grimsby fans weren’t the ones offering him a new contract, the Football people were the ones offering him a contract
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Apologies I got mixed up.
The Grimsby fans did say that about him though.
The Grimsby fans weren’t the ones offering him a new contract, the Football people were the ones offering him a contract
Clifton isn’t a playmaker. Campsall wants him next to Bailey to solve the passing problem. That wouldn’t work.
The Grimsby fans have seen a lot more of him than we have, so their opinion on that matter means more than ours.
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Just to add regarding young Craig at Oakwell we signed free agent Kelechi Nwakali in the summer .
One of those punt signings who seems to have drifted around Europe and not particularly settled anywhere although he did start his career at Arsenal .
I take the point it's relatively early days but if he maintains this form the lad won't be at Oakwell for too much longer , head and shoulders above anything I've seen at this level for some time .
Throw in captain Luca Connell , Adam Philips and Jonny Russell plus Nwakali and it's tough for the lad to start games .
I'm not saying our midfield is the best I've ever seen by any means but it's capable enough at this level .
Defending and scoring goals is why we aren't doing better .
I always believe you don't get to a club of Spurs size without having talent , you just don't and from what I read Spurs rate him highly enough to want to see his development progress hence why they are recalling him in January .
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Apologies I got mixed up.
The Grimsby fans did say that about him though.
The Grimsby fans weren’t the ones offering him a new contract, the Football people were the ones offering him a contract
Clifton isn’t a playmaker. Campsall wants him next to Bailey to solve the passing problem. That wouldn’t work.
The Grimsby fans have seen a lot more of him than we have, so their opinion on that matter means more than ours.
Campsall doesn’t want him next to Bailey. See my post on January transfer window.
I would put Westbrooke there now assuming he is match fit.
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Campsall, I have to disagree with Westbrook I’m afraid - I’d rather the wife play and she’s got 2 knackered knees ;) :lol:
The player we need alongside Bailey is not at the Club. GM constantly changing things around him but never finding the right guy. He had him, or at least the blueprint, last half of last season. Whether he can get him back I’m not sure, but he got it spot on last season with Craig and we don’t possess anyone with the same DNA (and are suffering because of it).
The same goes for Adelakun, tore defenders a new one in that glorious run of wins last season. Quite simply, what we’ve seen so far this season has not held a candle to those 2. That’s what we seriously need to address, ASAP in January, before we fall away altogether!
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Campsall, I have to disagree with Westbrook I’m afraid - I’d rather the wife play and she’s got 2 knackered knees ;) :lol:
The player we need alongside Bailey is not at the Club. GM constantly changing things around him but never finding the right guy. He had him, or at least the blueprint, last half of last season. Whether he can get him back I’m not sure, but he got it spot on last season with Craig and we don’t possess anyone with the same DNA (and are suffering because of it).
The same goes for Adelakun, tore defenders a new one in that glorious run of wins last season. Quite simply, what we’ve seen so far this season has not held a candle to those 2. That’s what we seriously need to address, ASAP in January, before we fall away altogether!
I have put Westbrooke there because as you say the player we need is not at the club.
But we can only play what we have Alan.
We have got plenty of attacking midfielders but we need a Mathew Craig type player next to Owen Bailey or Mathew Craig himself.
Don’t see us falling away altogether though Alan. We are good enough for top 4/5 as we are but to win the league or possibly top 3 we need 2 more players.
The ones we have will be much better when the missing link is acquired.
Please don’t tell me we don’t have quality players for this level because we have a squad full of them.
Sometimes the sum of all parts don’t function with one missing piece.
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Campsall, I have to disagree with Westbrook I’m afraid - I’d rather the wife play and she’s got 2 knackered knees ;) :lol:
The player we need alongside Bailey is not at the Club. GM constantly changing things around him but never finding the right guy. He had him, or at least the blueprint, last half of last season. Whether he can get him back I’m not sure, but he got it spot on last season with Craig and we don’t possess anyone with the same DNA (and are suffering because of it).
The same goes for Adelakun, tore defenders a new one in that glorious run of wins last season. Quite simply, what we’ve seen so far this season has not held a candle to those 2. That’s what we seriously need to address, ASAP in January, before we fall away altogether!
I have put Westbrooke there because as you say the player we need is not at the club.
But we can only play what we have Alan.
We have got plenty of attacking midfielders but we need a Mathew Craig type player next to Owen Bailey or Mathew Craig himself.
Don’t see us falling away altogether though Alan. We are good enough for top 4/5 as we are but to win the league or possibly top 3 we need 2 more players.
The ones we have will be much better when the missing link is acquired.
Please don’t tell me we don’t have quality players for this level because we have a squad full of them.
Sometimes the sum of all parts don’t function with one missing piece.
Sometimes, things don't function with all the parts.
Just a reminder even WITH TLT, Craig, Adelakun, Biggins (ffs) we lost the play off semi 2nd leg at home. We were losing the Barrow game when Craig was subbed.
We all know sh*t happens in football and the players have to dust themselves down, go again and produce what they're capable of.
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You can only go on what you see, Grant will big players up in public whatever he thinks privately
Over the years when we get these young lads from Premiership teams you know the ones who will make it at the top level as they stand out. Kelly who seems to be highly rated by everyone just doesn't for me, lightweight and cant impose himself on a game. I will be amazed if he makes it as a premiership footballer.
Broadbent has good games but then some bad ones, okay if you want to be a survivor in this league but no good if you want to have ambitions. And finally when Gibson signed the Carlisle fans said he could be brilliant and then non descript and so far thats pretty much covers it.
None of them are doing enough for me to take is where we want to go.
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Matty Craig is apparently wanted by the blades on a permanent deal, but Bristol City and Mansfield want to loan him.
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Matty Craig is apparently wanted by the blades on a permanent deal, but Bristol City and Mansfield want to loan him.
A permanent deal at a top Championship side is probably something that will tip the scales away from the likelihood of us having an opportunity to sign him on loan.
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Matty Craig is apparently wanted by the blades on a permanent deal, but Bristol City and Mansfield want to loan him.
A permanent deal at a top Championship side is probably something that will tip the scales away from the likelihood of us having an opportunity to sign him on loan.
There has never been any likelihood really though has there? He’s already excelled at League 2 level and is a young player wanting to progress in his career.
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Matty Craig is apparently wanted by the blades on a permanent deal, but Bristol City and Mansfield want to loan him.
A permanent deal at a top Championship side is probably something that will tip the scales away from the likelihood of us having an opportunity to sign him on loan.
There has never been any likelihood really though has there? He’s already excelled at League 2 level and is a young player wanting to progress in his career.
I agree nc but there are people on here who think he might be a realistic target for us in January.
I would be delighted if it were to happen but I doubt it will do.
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Matty Craig is apparently wanted by the blades on a permanent deal, but Bristol City and Mansfield want to loan him.
A permanent deal at a top Championship side is probably something that will tip the scales away from the likelihood of us having an opportunity to sign him on loan.
Unless they want to buy him & loan him out to get some minutes, for this season?
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Matty Craig is apparently wanted by the blades on a permanent deal, but Bristol City and Mansfield want to loan him.
A permanent deal at a top Championship side is probably something that will tip the scales away from the likelihood of us having an opportunity to sign him on loan.
Unless they want to buy him & loan him out to get some minutes, for this season?
Good point there Spud.
Come on you Blades.
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Don’t think it changes anything personally. He wouldn’t be signed by Sheff Utd to go straight into a squad that’s pushing for the PL so he’d still be loaned out. We might have a better chance with being local and I imagine we have an OK relationship with Utd given previous dealings but I think they would still want a League One loan. It’s only if there’s nothing suitable there that they would look to League Two, and in that case we’d surely be nailed on for his signature.
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Don’t think it changes anything personally. He wouldn’t be signed by Sheff Utd to go straight into a squad that’s pushing for the PL so he’d still be loaned out. We might have a better chance with being local and I imagine we have an OK relationship with Utd given previous dealings but I think they would still want a League One loan. It’s only if there’s nothing suitable there that they would look to League Two, and in that case we’d surely be nailed on for his signature.
Do you not think the player has any say in this given previous experiences at clubs, i.e., positive experiences where he felt welcomed, appreciated & ‘bonded’ with the fans?
Often wonder how much say/sway a ‘young footballer’ has on where his career (in the majority of which are relatively very short) HE sees best in his progression?
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Started today and subbed off in the first half.
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Started today and subbed off in the first half.
Subbed off injured....
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Started today and subbed off in the first half.
Subbed off injured....
Tactical, early double sub.
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I had a girlfriend 45 years ago.
Lovely girl.
Loved her to bits.
Just wasn’t meant to be, long-term.
So I moved on…..
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Started today and subbed off in the first half.
Subbed off injured....
Tactical, early double sub.
The tantrum when subbed off was a thing of beauty , without some of the staff grabbing hold of him I reckon he might have completely destroyed the home dugout .
Don't mind it myself mind at least he showed some passion and didn't much care for getting subbed off before we'd even reached halftime .
We could have done with a bit of that on the field from those who stayed on but that's another story .
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Started today and subbed off in the first half.
Subbed off injured....
Tactical, early double sub.
The tantrum when subbed off was a thing of beauty , without some of the staff grabbing hold of him I reckon he might have completely destroyed the home dugout .
Don't mind it myself mind at least he showed some passion and didn't much care for getting subbed off before we'd even reached halftime .
We could have done with a bit of that on the field from those who stayed on but that's another story .
Not really his personality either. He’s like a mouse.
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He played for the u21s v Sheffield Wednesday earlier in the week which was a shock and got subbed off, didn't show in the game either and Wendies won 3-1.
So a shock to me he was in the squad never mind got a a start in the first's a few days after, as didn't look anything like the lad playing for us according to my friend.
One thing for sure is Grant and the coaches here got a lot more out of him than his present team do.
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I saw nothing other than assertiveness in his interviews.He is articulate , confident and unlikely to be anybody’s fool .
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He played for the u21s v Sheffield Wednesday earlier in the week which was a shock and got subbed off, didn't show in the game either and Wendies won 3-1.
So a shock to me he was in the squad never mind got a a start in the first's a few days after, as didn't look anything like the lad playing for us according to my friend.
One thing for sure is Grant and the coaches here got a lot more out of him than his present team do.
We were missing both Luca Connell and Adam Philips on Saturday Selby so that probably explains why he started .
I understand the lads frustration at getting subbed off before half time , none of the goals we conceded were down to him and to be fair he wasn't the worst out there by a long shot .
Clarke in my opinion was trying to show he's the man by making the changes before half time but didn't fool me one bit by hauling off the young loan kid and McCarthy whose hardly featured in two years at the club .
Not to worry Clarke won't be here too much longer in my opinion , Hourihane will get the top job before too long .