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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: andyst79 on December 26, 2024, 04:58:17 pm
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Over reaction!
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Broadbent is shocking, said it for months now.
Bailey isn't good enough, and molyneux is a 1 trick pony.
Clifton is an average league 2 slogger, and gibson just isn't interested.
We simply don't have a midfield, and playoffs is the best we can hope for with this lot.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Over reaction!
Not really, we are miles off it and need to drastically improve or we'll be missing out in the playoffs again as GM seems to get outdone tactically in big games. Been too much unnecessary chopping and changing this season
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Not at all as pathetic as your opening post if you are a supporter.Try to read the game as a football fan not as a defeatist .Are you a loser or a fighter?Let me guess !
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Typical chicken little comments after a loss.
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Not at all a defeatist, but am I wrong ? Yes we are well placed in the league & it's not a total disaster against a good team but did we give it a good go really?! Was poor from GM and the decision making out on the pitch from the players wasn't great either. Been mediocre at best for weeks now
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Bailey made a name for himself last season whilst playing in defence. After Wood returned from injury he was moved back into midfield by which time Matty Craig was in the side and making a big difference to players around him.
If any positives can be taken from this afternoon it’s given McCann a close up view of exactly what is needed to win this division.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Over reaction!
Not really, we are miles off it and need to drastically improve or we'll be missing out in the playoffs again as GM seems to get outdone tactically in big games. Been too much unnecessary chopping and changing this season
Yes really. We were poor however I didn't think they were much better. First goal was poor from our perspective & second came from a superb ball into our box. Billy, Ironside & Olowu were all unlucky not to score. I reckon we will be closer than 10 points behind them at the end of the season & still get promoted.
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Our form is concerning and would see us finish mid-table if we don't improve. We're currently third, yet just two points ahead of eighth position.
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Won't mention players by name, as to not create scapegoats but a few shirked challenges today.
Simply not good enough today at all.
TSL maybe could have done better for their second goal but he's certainly not the problem.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Over reaction!
3 wins in the last 10 would suggest otherwise. 2 of those were against a non league club and 10 men 23rd.
We stunk the place out today. And have done more and more frequently of late. The constant chopping and changing of personnel and formation is harming us terribly in my opinion. The manager has to take some responsibility now. If we want automatic promotion then we need to improve hand over fist.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Over reaction!
Not really, we are miles off it and need to drastically improve or we'll be missing out in the playoffs again as GM seems to get outdone tactically in big games. Been too much unnecessary chopping and changing this season
Yes really. We were poor however I didn't think they were much better. First goal was poor from our perspective & second came from a superb ball into our box. Billy, Ironside & Olowu were all unlucky not to score. I reckon we will be closer than 10 points behind them at the end of the season & still get promoted.
As a side hoping for automatic promotion, did their keeper have to make a save today?
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We succeeded in holding them on the break in the first half, but their defence was better than our attack which did not coordinate at all well. In effect they still dictated the way the game went. Walsall showed their versatility and they are comfortably better than we are.
Whether McCann used subs effectively is debatable. Sharp was not making much headway after half time, but Walsall were mobile in defence and had more skilful players. Whether our decline is just lack of form, poor tactics, or lack of fitness, I don’t know. Molyneux gets well-marked and doesn’t seem to know what he should do, but getting rid quickly and running into space is one answer and he usually doesn’t.
It seems doubtful that we cannot sustain our present position without some strengthening.
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It was an odd team selection. Two up top but only one creative player in the team. Said it in the other thread. The way to get at them is to match them up formation wise.
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When you have been a Spporter for 50 years you have to be positive!
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If anything the league table flatters us. We're looking like a pretty average team.
We don't seem to have the quality to turn enough of our attacking play into chances / goals. And we don't really keep that many clean sheets, only 5 all season and just 1 in the last 12.
More worryingly I'm not sure how much scope we'll have to significantly improve things in January given the current size of the squad.
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I just hope it won't be like last season in reverse.
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We’ve resorted to panic football. Nobody wants to put their foot on the ball and dictate the play. Desperate for a play maker in the middle of the park.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Too many midfielders and not enough attacking minded players . Moly Kelly , Broadbent Gibson all not pulling in the sane direction . Over passing ,not tackling not winning enough second balls . Toothless in front of goal .. McCann has build a team that wants run but can’t win ..
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Over reaction!
3 wins in the last 10 would suggest otherwise. 2 of those were against a non league club and 10 men 23rd.
We stunk the place out today. And have done more and more frequently of late. The constant chopping and changing of personnel and formation is harming us terribly in my opinion. The manager has to take some responsibility now. If we want automatic promotion then we need to improve hand over fist.
Agree with this, we are awful & no way reflect a McCann team of the past.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Pathetic comment! Get a grip lad. Beaten by the league leaders who showed why they are top. Thought we did ok first half. But they stepped up a gear 2nd half and we couldn't cope. They were bigger better stronger faster. We are still in the mix for promotion but we need a couple of additions in Jan.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Over reaction!
Not really, we are miles off it and need to drastically improve or we'll be missing out in the playoffs again as GM seems to get outdone tactically in big games. Been too much unnecessary chopping and changing this season
Yes really. We were poor however I didn't think they were much better. First goal was poor from our perspective & second came from a superb ball into our box. Billy, Ironside & Olowu were all unlucky not to score. I reckon we will be closer than 10 points behind them at the end of the season & still get promoted.
As a side hoping for automatic promotion, did their keeper have to make a save today?
Just the one - from Olowu’s header
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Ah here we go again, the meltdown brigade out in force.
Walsall were simply much better than us and you just have to hand it to them.
All the teams around us didn’t win either and aren’t exactly setting the world alight, we are all just as inconsistent as each other.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Pathetic comment! Get a grip lad. Beaten by the league leaders who showed why they are top. Thought we did ok first half. But they stepped up a gear 2nd half and we couldn't cope. They were bigger better stronger faster. We are still in the mix for promotion but we need a couple of additions in Jan.
If we've aspirations of winning the league and you think that's an acceptable performance then you're deluded. Losers accept mediocricy, winners don't . But yeah let's get checkbook back out and back him again.
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Ah here we go again, the meltdown brigade out in force.
Walsall were simply much better than us and you just have to hand it to them.
All the teams around us didn’t win either and aren’t exactly setting the world alight, we are all just as inconsistent as each other.
Yep.
A few weeks back it looked as though PV were going to run away with the league but they too have also slipped back.
The same thing might happen with Walsall.
Still half a season to go.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Pathetic comment! Get a grip lad. Beaten by the league leaders who showed why they are top. Thought we did ok first half. But they stepped up a gear 2nd half and we couldn't cope. They were bigger better stronger faster. We are still in the mix for promotion but we need a couple of additions in Jan.
If we've aspirations of winning the league and you think that's an acceptable performance then you're deluded. Losers accept mediocricy, winners don't . But yeah let's get checkbook back out and back him again.
We are not good enough to win the league. Thats been clear before today. Im a realist not a loser. Promotion is the goal.
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Whilst you could say some of the posts are over the top, we cannot can’t get away from the fact that we have a problem.
Today we got what many asked for, billy and Joe up front, however the service to them was pathetic. Again we set off positively and we seemed to be knocking the ball about well. However same issue occurs in that we don’t have the quick killer passes from midfield. PK started really well and won lots of the ball, but his final ball is lacking, seems like we are short of the midfielder who can take the game by the scuff of the neck and dictate play, with the likes of pk doing the work. A younger Tommy Roe comes to mind.
We had a plenty of the ball with some good passing, but it didn’t get us anywhere, and then some slack defending to give them a couple of goals.
It understandable why we get some over the top comments, at the end of the day they are worried about the recent results, I can’t see where anyone would not be concerned.
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The buck stops with the manager he’s got us in a position which we need to maintain and have the squad to do it but we need to get on a run and shake off the inconsistency, my biggest concern is far too many look a shadow of the form of August -September
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I thought we were really poor, and have been for a few games. We're shocking in the final third, quality of final ball and decision-making is terrible.
I thought Walsall weren't that great, I don't think we were blown away by a great team, rather we weren't at it - didn't look like scoring and didn't have enough fight in us. Broadbent is terrible, we need to go shopping the January sales - midfield is such a weakness for us.
Lots of clubs round us with games in hand, we need to win next two to stay top three. We need to find a way to kick on as it all feels a bit stale at the moment.
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Walsall played at home today, Walsall are top of the league, their main striker is reportedly going back in the new year, cutting short his loan
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Pathetic comment! Get a grip lad. Beaten by the league leaders who showed why they are top. Thought we did ok first half. But they stepped up a gear 2nd half and we couldn't cope. They were bigger better stronger faster. We are still in the mix for promotion but we need a couple of additions in Jan.
So… we were pathetic then in the second half and need more players because the once we have are pathetic!!
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We were beaten by a better team in the second half. Don’t know what Broadbent did wrong today. The problem was Fleming who had a mare today after a very good game last time out, personally I’d have had Senior on before half time with BF on a booking and having a torrid time
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I agree with Grant, I thought there wasn’t much in it, TSL should have done better with the first goal and the second goal looked well offside to me
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We were ok in the first, in fact the marginally better team, but as I put in the lucky pint we looked like training cones in the second half, we were not even second best to the ball or man.
They attacked with purpose, speed and strength, we just don’t have that purpose at the moment, and haven’t had it since Adelukan left.
Too many woefully underperforming players so far this year. I don’t know what the fix is, I hope Grant does.
No need to panic though, we will be fine.
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I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.
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So he’s got his team third but failed give your head a shake - it’s not brilliant but we are still up there
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I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.
The last two sentences are rather strange, I take it you’ve had a Christmas drink or two
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The club is failing. It’s a fact. We are nowhere near where we want to be. How can my comments be unreasonable?
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He's a bloody brilliant manager
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I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.
Probably the most ridiculous post ever to be written on here
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I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.
Nothings won or lost in December and GM has the backing of the fans but I do believe there's questions to be asked, I think his recruitments been very poor and offering certain players new contracts when they've had a history of inept performances or injuries is bizarre. I always like Grants honesty in his interviews but after yesterday's game he appeared visibly shaken/adjitated and seemed to place the blame on the players and our finishing when I thought the bigger issue was our tactics and how he set the team up. A couple of new additions in January and we could look a completely different team , but GM's continually bigged up the squad and the players but we seem to be underperforming.
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I watched on Sky yesterday so didn’t feel the full emotion of being in the crowd.
For me, after a not so good start I thought we were decent enough getting to half time level and was thinking we might squeeze a draw from the game.
After the first goal so soon after the restart obviously some of my optimism waned but there were a few moments when my spirits lifted a bit but it wasn’t to be.
Thinking back, there was never a time during the game when I felt we might actually win.
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I only saw the second half on the box and we were simply second best
Has McCann overrated the players? There's a balance between bigging players up so they are confident going onto the pitch and raising expectations too high and they underperform.
Football is a game of opinions and to me we are not looking like promotional material right now. Of course, things can change quickly like last season.
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Agree with the last two posts, first half we were ok, they stepped up & dominated the second half, I can't agree with Grant saying there was nothing in the game.
I can't believe the Ironside miss hasn't been mentioned though, we could have at least had an exciting last ten minutes.
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Agree with the last two posts, first half we were ok, they stepped up & dominated the second half, I can't agree with Grant saying there was nothing in the game.
I can't believe the Ironside miss hasn't been mentioned though, we could have at least had an exciting last ten minutes.
I’ve only seen that Ironside shot once. As I recall it was from a near post cross but he had two defenders quite close to him and one of them was directly in line with the goal.
He had to take the shot first time and if it had been on target I seem to think that it would have hit the defender.
I will have another look later on the highlights, if it is shown of course.
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They also hit the woodwork with a cracking strike with TSL an onlooker.
We’re not a million miles away however. Grant just needs another striker & commanding midfielder in the transfer window.
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Agree with the last two posts, first half we were ok, they stepped up & dominated the second half, I can't agree with Grant saying there was nothing in the game.
I can't believe the Ironside miss hasn't been mentioned though, we could have at least had an exciting last ten minutes.
I’ve only seen that Ironside shot once. As I recall it was from a near post cross but he had two defenders quite close to him and one of them was directly in line with the goal.
He had to take the shot first time and if it had been on target I seem to think that it would have hit the defender.
I will have another look later on the highlights, if it is shown of course.
I've not seen it back either but I'm sure it should have been on target & asking the question, cut back was from Gibson I think.
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It's clear to me that there's a problem of confidence in both team and individuals. There is nobody in the team willing in our half of the pitch to take the ball down in a head-tennis bout and start a move, NOBODY. They all keep heading or leathering it upfield until the opposition take control - that is lack of confidence or worse, just not good enough.
We have a few good players and some good enough if those around them are very good. And then those like Hurst and Kelly who have the skills but lack the physicality. With the size of this squad I don't see how Grant will have the room to do much quality business in January.
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As I said last night, it’s not been good enough and it has to land at his door. His squad, his tactics, his problem. Of course we are still in the mix but in his own words the aim is to win the league and again like last season we are relying on a good window in January and whether he gets it right or not there is no hiding from the fact that the recruitment in the summer was crap. We are a considerably lot worse team now than we were when we finished last season. I know we will have tried to bring back TLT, Craig and Adelakun but, the players who came in to replace them are nowhere near their standard.
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We are playing a side in Colchester just as good as Walsall on current form and better defensively than them on current form.
Everyone is on about our attack while we can't keep a clean sheet and are having to score a minimum of two goals to have a chance of winning a game.
We need an out and out good defender who can mix it physically and has pace ( Faulkner), and another unit in the midfield area that has the same attributes and some experience, if not available in the window ( Flint) who is young but very good, at the moment we are a soft touch. Faulkner with his pace gives the option of three at the back and Flint is a better footballer than some we play in midfield, is big and mobile with a tactical brain, and one of his strengths is keeping the ball and a wide range of passing ability.
Both will get better with experience and both would add to our set piece attack being good in the air, but will not improve sitting on a bench.
Then you might see us shipping less goals and scoring a few. and both available early January if not loaned out where both have a number of options.
Another thing to consider Anderson has not played the last few games and was far from being our worst defender when he did play, his odd mistake being highlighted much more than others on this forum.
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We are playing a side in Colchester just as good as Walsall on current form and better defensively than them on current form.
Everyone is on about our attack while we can't keep a clean sheet and are having to score a minimum of two goals to have a chance of winning a game.
We need an out and out good defender who can mix it physically and has pace ( Faulkner), and another unit in the midfield area that has the same attributes and some experience, if not available in the window ( Flint) who is young but very good, at the moment we are a soft touch. Faulkner with his pace gives the option of three at the back and Flint is a better footballer than some we play in midfield, is big and mobile with a tactical brain, and one of his strengths is keeping the ball and a wide range of passing ability.
Both will get better with experience and both would add to our set piece attack being good in the air, but will not improve sitting on a bench.
Then you might see us shipping less goals and scoring a few. and both available early January if not loaned out where both have a number of options.
Another thing to consider Anderson has not played the last few games and was far from being our worst defender when he did play, his odd mistake being highlighted much more than others on this forum.
Faulkner is not available until January, but I agree, he’s worth a try in a 3 with Mcgrath and Olowu
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Agree with the last two posts, first half we were ok, they stepped up & dominated the second half, I can't agree with Grant saying there was nothing in the game.
I can't believe the Ironside miss hasn't been mentioned though, we could have at least had an exciting last ten minutes.
I’ve only seen that Ironside shot once. As I recall it was from a near post cross but he had two defenders quite close to him and one of them was directly in line with the goal.
He had to take the shot first time and if it had been on target I seem to think that it would have hit the defender.
I will have another look later on the highlights, if it is shown of course.
He would have been better leaving the cross as I think it was Hurst would have had an open goal to fire at, but as a striker you can't blame him for hitting it.
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We were beaten by a better team in the second half. Don’t know what Broadbent did wrong today. The problem was Fleming who had a mare today after a very good game last time out, personally I’d have had Senior on before half time with BF on a booking and having a torrid time
I thought Fleming was awful in the Tranmere game tbh!
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I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.
Nothings won or lost in December and GM has the backing of the fans but I do believe there's questions to be asked, I think his recruitments been very poor and offering certain players new contracts when they've had a history of inept performances or injuries is bizarre. I always like Grants honesty in his interviews but after yesterday's game he appeared visibly shaken/adjitated and seemed to place the blame on the players and our finishing when I thought the bigger issue was our tactics and how he set the team up. A couple of new additions in January and we could look a completely different team , but GM's continually bigged up the squad and the players but we seem to be underperforming.
I agree about Grants interview yesterday. He looked knackered and very concerned.
It feels as though he is realising his signings aren’t delivering and we are way short of the standard we set last season.
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We can’t play three centre backs, it doesn’t work they all look like fish out of water. ( whoever plays) The current two in Joe and Jay are both fast and powerful, and more than good enough at this level - they do need some help though, and that is where the problem lays. I see 2 major flaws in the team:
1. A weak and dysfunctional midfield, allowing sides to run past and through them almost unchallenged at times.
2. Movement, we don’t create space or show for the ball, allowing space for others- we are constantly static, with the only movement coming from corners.
If we look at the list of midfielders we have - who would you keep with the showing so far in the team?
Close - ok if you want possession, but he needs that missing movement. Not a get a foot in guy though.
Westbrooke ? Similar to Close
Kelly - a young loanee who is very hit and miss, but will have a good career. He is the type we need, but a maturer version.
Bailey - ?
Broadbent?
Clifton - I actually think he’s the best of our current lot!
Sbarra - too early to have a full understanding, but Grant isn’t convinced by the look of it.
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The club is failing. It’s a fact. We are nowhere near where we want to be. How can my comments be unreasonable?
Because:
The club is not failing. No facts there!
We are third!! In a promotion spot just where we need to be.
We are not in great form.Everything else you are saying is knee jerk, reactive, panic ridden garbage.
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I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .
What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .
The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .
I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .
We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .
Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .
It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .
That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .
Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .
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Agree with the last two posts, first half we were ok, they stepped up & dominated the second half, I can't agree with Grant saying there was nothing in the game.
I can't believe the Ironside miss hasn't been mentioned though, we could have at least had an exciting last ten minutes.
I’ve only seen that Ironside shot once. As I recall it was from a near post cross but he had two defenders quite close to him and one of them was directly in line with the goal.
He had to take the shot first time and if it had been on target I seem to think that it would have hit the defender.
I will have another look later on the highlights, if it is shown of course.
Just seen the highlights from the Rovers website and the Ironside incident isn’t part of it.
However I thought at the time that Walsalls second goal should have been ruled out for offside and having seen it again, and replayed it several times, I am even more convinced that it shouldn’t have counted.
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Absolutly crazy to be calling for the manager to be replaced.
If we did that would make us the laughing stock of the division.
We are 3rd and in the mix for christ sake.
Yes performances havnt been great of late but that is also said for 90% of the division right now.
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Agree with the last two posts, first half we were ok, they stepped up & dominated the second half, I can't agree with Grant saying there was nothing in the game.
I can't believe the Ironside miss hasn't been mentioned though, we could have at least had an exciting last ten minutes.
I’ve only seen that Ironside shot once. As I recall it was from a near post cross but he had two defenders quite close to him and one of them was directly in line with the goal.
He had to take the shot first time and if it had been on target I seem to think that it would have hit the defender.
I will have another look later on the highlights, if it is shown of course.
Just seen the highlights from the Rovers website and the Ironside incident isn’t part of it.
However I thought at the time that Walsalls second goal should have been ruled out for offside and having seen it again, and replayed it several times, I am even more convinced that it shouldn’t have counted.
I’m of the same opinion
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I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .
What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .
The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .
I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .
We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .
Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .
It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .
That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .
Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .
I know you have people on here who over the time you’ve been patronising our forum appear to have grown fond of you & your occasional little inputs, suggestions & bonhomie.
You remind me of the Leeds supporter I’ve ‘inherited’ as a neighbour. Whenever he catches me cutting the front lawn as he goes off for walkies with his two dogs (who I will shoot the next time one of them pisses on my lawn) who will linger long enough so that I’d have to be Stevie Wonders not to see him.
The conversation then goes along the lines of LN (Leeds neighbour), “I see you drew at home against on Saturday. Was it a good game?” As if he gives a sh**e one way or another.
ME (this is me & in an attempt to cut conversation to a minimum because a) I want to finish the grass as I have other things to do, b) he’s a Leeds fan. “Not really to be honest”, then I go to start the mower up again with a neighbourly nod & forced smile.
LN “We should have had a forth in all fairness”.
ME Eyes raised to the heavens & a shrug of the shoulders I attempt to fire the mower up again.
LN “Mind you, their keeper played well I’ll give them that much. Is Billy Sharp playing well? I expect it’s much easier for him playing at a lower level. Are you league one or two now, I always forget?”.
Like buggery he does.
ME “League two & no, Billy’s not finding it as easy as some people suggested he might”.
LN “I suppose he’ll not be getting the same sort of service he’s been used to”.
Oh why don’t you just p**s off with your pedigree pets you condescending ba****d who gives not a jot for my club & whose own club I would dearly love to see trip up & miss out on the play offs….I think to myself.
Which is where you come in.
Don’t Barnsley have a forum of their own where you can wallow amongst kith & kin?
If so, please go & pi** on your ‘own lawn’.
Happy New Year.
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I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.
Nothings won or lost in December and GM has the backing of the fans but I do believe there's questions to be asked, I think his recruitments been very poor and offering certain players new contracts when they've had a history of inept performances or injuries is bizarre. I always like Grants honesty in his interviews but after yesterday's game he appeared visibly shaken/adjitated and seemed to place the blame on the players and our finishing when I thought the bigger issue was our tactics and how he set the team up. A couple of new additions in January and we could look a completely different team , but GM's continually bigged up the squad and the players but we seem to be underperforming.
I agree about Grants interview yesterday. He looked knackered and very concerned.
It feels as though he is realising his signings aren’t delivering and we are way short of the standard we set last season.
Last season was a disaster in comparison to this one, we were in a relegation battle until March,
So the standards this season are a big improvement if we’re comparing like for like.
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I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.
Just when you think you’ve read the most ridiculous post of the season, you read this.
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I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .
What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .
The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .
I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .
We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .
Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .
It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .
That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .
Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .
Phew, I can rest easy now, knowing that this Barnsley fan has said we should get the job done.
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I disagree with the above comments about Tyke. A lot of posters I know, enjoy his input, both on here and in off-topic.
Also, he was magnanimous enough to admit we were the better team in the 2 draws we had with his team during their League 1 promotion season.
Keep posting, Tyke, as a fellow South Yorkshireman.
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I disagree with the above comments about Tyke. A lot of posters I know enjoy his input, both on here and in off-topic.
Also, he was magnanimous enough to admit we were the better team in the 2 draws we had with his team during their League 1 promotion season.
Keep posting, Tyke, as a fellow South Yorkshireman.
I agree with this, don't mind having an alternative view......and to be fair he talks more sense than atleast 40% of the so called Donny fans in here :byebye: and that's being VERY Conservative
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Keep posting Tyke you are a decent poster
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I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .
What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .
The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .
I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .
We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .
Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .
It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .
That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .
Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .
I know you have people on here who over the time you’ve been patronising our forum appear to have grown fond of you & your occasional little inputs, suggestions & bonhomie.
You remind me of the Leeds supporter I’ve ‘inherited’ as a neighbour. Whenever he catches me cutting the front lawn as he goes off for walkies with his two dogs (who I will shoot the next time one of them pisses on my lawn) who will linger long enough so that I’d have to be Stevie Wonders not to see him.
The conversation then goes along the lines of LN (Leeds neighbour), “I see you drew at home against on Saturday. Was it a good game?” As if he gives a sh**e one way or another.
ME (this is me & in an attempt to cut conversation to a minimum because a) I want to finish the grass as I have other things to do, b) he’s a Leeds fan. “Not really to be honest”, then I go to start the mower up again with a neighbourly nod & forced smile.
LN “We should have had a forth in all fairness”.
ME Eyes raised to the heavens & a shrug of the shoulders I attempt to fire the mower up again.
LN “Mind you, their keeper played well I’ll give them that much. Is Billy Sharp playing well? I expect it’s much easier for him playing at a lower level. Are you league one or two now, I always forget?”.
Like buggery he does.
ME “League two & no, Billy’s not finding it as easy as some people suggested he might”.
LN “I suppose he’ll not be getting the same sort of service he’s been used to”.
Oh why don’t you just p**s off with your pedigree pets you condescending ba****d who gives not a jot for my club & whose own club I would dearly love to see trip up & miss out on the play offs….I think to myself.
Which is where you come in.
Don’t Barnsley have a forum of their own where you can wallow amongst kith & kin?
If so, please go & pi** on your ‘own lawn’.
Happy New Year.
Totally wide of the mark,
We don't exist in a bubble, someone said Tyke talks more sense than 40%of posters on here, understated.
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Yep, keep posting on here Tyke.
Good to hear what fans of other clubs think of Rovers and also your comments on other topics too.
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We were on the receiving end of this earlier in the month .
OK Birmingham City have spent big and have recruited some top players but they were way below their best and we actually put in a decent performance at home for once and were the better side .
We got ourselves in front and looked good to score again and put the game to bed but Birmingham hung in there , defenders putting their bodies on the line and kept grafting .
Not only that it was pyssing down with rain and blowing a gale and they were playing right in to the teeth of it in the second half .
The buggas turned it around though and won 2-1 through sheer will and resolve .
The word coming out of Oakwell was that we were unlucky and Birmingham aren't that great and were generally hugely unimpressive .
I was the other way myself , I thought that's pretty much how you get it done and it's those kind of games at the end of the season that make the difference between promotion and play offs .
They impressed me considerably , they wouldn't be the first club to spend big only to find some of the big money players don't fancy it when it's tough but they did .
I know we wouldn't have turned it around as we are at the moment .
Appreciate your kind words .
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Yea keep posting tyke. Enjoy reading the comments from someone with and outside view of our club.
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I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .
What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .
The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .
I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .
We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .
Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .
It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .
That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .
Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .
I know you have people on here who over the time you’ve been patronising our forum appear to have grown fond of you & your occasional little inputs, suggestions & bonhomie.
You remind me of the Leeds supporter I’ve ‘inherited’ as a neighbour. Whenever he catches me cutting the front lawn as he goes off for walkies with his two dogs (who I will shoot the next time one of them pisses on my lawn) who will linger long enough so that I’d have to be Stevie Wonders not to see him.
The conversation then goes along the lines of LN (Leeds neighbour), “I see you drew at home against on Saturday. Was it a good game?” As if he gives a sh**e one way or another.
ME (this is me & in an attempt to cut conversation to a minimum because a) I want to finish the grass as I have other things to do, b) he’s a Leeds fan. “Not really to be honest”, then I go to start the mower up again with a neighbourly nod & forced smile.
LN “We should have had a forth in all fairness”.
ME Eyes raised to the heavens & a shrug of the shoulders I attempt to fire the mower up again.
LN “Mind you, their keeper played well I’ll give them that much. Is Billy Sharp playing well? I expect it’s much easier for him playing at a lower level. Are you league one or two now, I always forget?”.
Like buggery he does.
ME “League two & no, Billy’s not finding it as easy as some people suggested he might”.
LN “I suppose he’ll not be getting the same sort of service he’s been used to”.
Oh why don’t you just p**s off with your pedigree pets you condescending ba****d who gives not a jot for my club & whose own club I would dearly love to see trip up & miss out on the play offs….I think to myself.
Which is where you come in.
Don’t Barnsley have a forum of their own where you can wallow amongst kith & kin?
If so, please go & pi** on your ‘own lawn’.
Happy New Year.
What a big bundle of joy you are eh !
Were you Victor Meldrew's scriptwriter ??
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I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.
Nothings won or lost in December and GM has the backing of the fans but I do believe there's questions to be asked, I think his recruitments been very poor and offering certain players new contracts when they've had a history of inept performances or injuries is bizarre. I always like Grants honesty in his interviews but after yesterday's game he appeared visibly shaken/adjitated and seemed to place the blame on the players and our finishing when I thought the bigger issue was our tactics and how he set the team up. A couple of new additions in January and we could look a completely different team , but GM's continually bigged up the squad and the players but we seem to be underperforming.
I agree about Grants interview yesterday. He looked knackered and very concerned.
It feels as though he is realising his signings aren’t delivering and we are way short of the standard we set last season.
Last season was a disaster in comparison to this one, we were in a relegation battle until March,
So the standards this season are a big improvement if we’re comparing like for like.
I agree. However I’m comparing to late last season. I think you know that but have jumped on a little bit of ambiguity I left so fair play to you for that.
I will rephrase. The signings are falling short of the standards required to come back this season and “win the league”…Grants statement, not mine.
Listen I will happily take 3rd spot now and be absolutely buzzing about it.
I can’t help but be concerned at how far behind Walsall we are though. Not just points but the way both teams played. I thought it was men against boys for large spells of the game.
We finished last season on fire and the manager was significantly backed again in the summer. I don’t think we should be that far behind them.
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Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.
Pathetic comment! Get a grip lad. Beaten by the league leaders who showed why they are top. Thought we did ok first half. But they stepped up a gear 2nd half and we couldn't cope. They were bigger better stronger faster. We are still in the mix for promotion but we need a couple of additions in Jan.
If we've aspirations of winning the league and you think that's an acceptable performance then you're deluded. Losers accept mediocricy, winners don't . But yeah let's get checkbook back out and back him again.
Spot on, although I do believe with a couple of signings, & a settled side, we could go on a decent run, but don't worry the positive
police are out again, so all will be fine, nothing to discuss or critique here.
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Walsall played at home today, Walsall are top of the league, their main striker is reportedly going back in the new year, cutting short his loan
The only people saying that Lowe is leaving are our rivals, in hope.
The last two seasons our form has been derailed by our top scorer going back in January. That's why we chose a Championship loanee to avoid that happening. That's not to say it won't, especially now Stoke will be looking for another new manager, but it will halt his development if recalled now and isn't starting regularly in the Championship, which is unlikely, given their position.
Anyway, we've got plenty of options. Most won't even have heard of Cleary on loan from WBA, who has one of the best youth scoring records around. Then Danny Johnson, who is a class finisher at this level. They just haven't had much of a chance with how the others have been performing. When they have, they've scored.
There's a lot of negativity on here, as there is from Vale fans at the moment. Your performances may not have been great, but the league table says you're as good as anyone, and your performance showed that, in the first half at least. We just restricted you to long range efforts.
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I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.
Just when you think you’ve read the most ridiculous post of the season, you read this.
Let’s see how ridiculous it is the more these performances and results go on. Says it all that January is being so eagerly anticipated because we all know that this squad won’t get us promoted which again, just emphasises that his recruitment has been p!ss poor.
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We’re 3rd in the table for gods sake,
You’re going on like we’re 20th,
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Well I’m glad you are here to remind me. Does that mean if performances continue and we drop out of 3rd we are allowed to criticise? Or would that still be unacceptable to the happy clappers?
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Over the last 10 games, we’re 12th!
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Over the last 10 games, we’re 12th!
Good job we've played the other 12 games before that then!!
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Over the last 10 games, we’re 12th!
How's that glass Alan..... need a top up.?
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Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
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Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
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I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
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Well I’m glad you are here to remind me. Does that mean if performances continue and we drop out of 3rd we are allowed to criticise? Or would that still be unacceptable to the happy clappers?
Not happy clappers at all. Concerned with current form and constructive criticism is warranted.But stating the manager has failed in December when we sit in a promotion place is ludicrous. As is demanding he be sacked!! Its a long season. He will judged at the end.Lets see!
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I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .
What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .
The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .
I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .
We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .
Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .
It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .
That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .
Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .
I know you have people on here who over the time you’ve been patronising our forum appear to have grown fond of you & your occasional little inputs, suggestions & bonhomie.
You remind me of the Leeds supporter I’ve ‘inherited’ as a neighbour. Whenever he catches me cutting the front lawn as he goes off for walkies with his two dogs (who I will shoot the next time one of them pisses on my lawn) who will linger long enough so that I’d have to be Stevie Wonders not to see him.
The conversation then goes along the lines of LN (Leeds neighbour), “I see you drew at home against on Saturday. Was it a good game?” As if he gives a sh**e one way or another.
ME (this is me & in an attempt to cut conversation to a minimum because a) I want to finish the grass as I have other things to do, b) he’s a Leeds fan. “Not really to be honest”, then I go to start the mower up again with a neighbourly nod & forced smile.
LN “We should have had a forth in all fairness”.
ME Eyes raised to the heavens & a shrug of the shoulders I attempt to fire the mower up again.
LN “Mind you, their keeper played well I’ll give them that much. Is Billy Sharp playing well? I expect it’s much easier for him playing at a lower level. Are you league one or two now, I always forget?”.
Like buggery he does.
ME “League two & no, Billy’s not finding it as easy as some people suggested he might”.
LN “I suppose he’ll not be getting the same sort of service he’s been used to”.
Oh why don’t you just p**s off with your pedigree pets you condescending ba****d who gives not a jot for my club & whose own club I would dearly love to see trip up & miss out on the play offs….I think to myself.
Which is where you come in.
Don’t Barnsley have a forum of their own where you can wallow amongst kith & kin?
If so, please go & pi** on your ‘own lawn’.
Happy New Year.
What a big bundle of joy you are eh !
Were you Victor Meldrew's scriptwriter ??
No, but I did once write a screenplay about a bunch of sycophants who enjoyed having smoke blown their arses.
Before I could put it out to interested parties it was bought up by Mel Brooks & eventually turned into the film Blazing Saddles.
I particularly enjoyed the first part of the film where the white ‘cowboys’ were endeavouring to get the black workers to sing ‘Negro Songs’, but the black workers (whilst not exactly ‘refusing’ to sing the usual black slave songs the white men wanted) sang ‘their versions’ of popularised ‘white songs’ of the time such as ‘Smoke gets in your Eyes’.
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WE are in a bad run of form, that doesn't mean the season is over, but Rovers, as usual are making it hard for themselves. I'm not sure if we will get the stated aim of going up as champions, Walsall seem to have that momentum that winners have, it is whether we can hang on to the coat-tails now. It starts against Port Vale to prove the point.
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I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee if we were rock bottom with no wins, no draws and 22 losses you’d still be here saying there is still 24 games to go.
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Good job there were a few who did last season!
Success is promotion, failure is staying put, simple as that.
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Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
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I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee if we were rock bottom with no wins, no draws and 22 losses you’d still be here saying there is still 24 games to go.
The people who have liked this post tells you everything you need to know.
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Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Go read the posts during our good form last season it’s all still there to see
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Although our recent form is concerning, I think there’s a lot of over reaction, I’ll take 3rd place and a superior goal difference of 1 right now, having said that I’ll have a moan and be pissed off along the way, we are well in the mix half way through the season, lets be positive for once
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Good job there were a few who did last season!
Success is promotion, failure is staying put, simple as that.
It was always going to be a tough rebuild last season for GM, there was a losing mentality around the club amongst other hurdles to overcome, however I don't think any of us thought we'd struggle the way we did 1st half of the season and if Joe Ironside hadn't scored late away at Sutton things might have been a bit different! The run we then went on was remarkable and the manager deserves credit for that , himself and the players really brought the excitement and feel good factor back to the club and the keepmoat was absolutely rocking. Unfortunately we just ran out of steam at the end but it gave us all great belief that we could carry on that momentum into this season but for me it hasn't quite happened, whilst we are well placed in the table the majority of performances this season have been bang average for me with GM still undecided on his best team and formation. Also we've had some shocking results away at Harrogate, Newport & Bromley along with the home mauling by Chesterfield (referee didn't help admittedly)
This might sound controversial but I don't think signing Billy Sharps helped us, Ironside was the focal point of a successful attack last season and although Sharps a goalscorer I don't think we play to his strengths and look a better side with Joe as lone striker. I was excited when we signed Billy & my thinking was we've got two 20 goals a season strikers & we're gonna piss the league! Unfortunately it's not quite happened so far, however I trust Grant to improve us in the window and hopefully we give it good go , the big squad should pay dividends 2nd half of the season and with some quality additions should be looking to win the league, or at worst automatic promotion anything else will be a failure.
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Good job there were a few who did last season!
Success is promotion, failure is staying put, simple as that.
It was always going to be a tough rebuild last season for GM, there was a losing mentality around the club amongst other hurdles to overcome, however I don't think any of us thought we'd struggle the way we did 1st half of the season and if Joe Ironside hadn't scored late away at Sutton things might have been a bit different! The run we then went on was remarkable and the manager deserves credit for that , himself and the players really brought the excitement and feel good factor back to the club and the keepmoat was absolutely rocking. Unfortunately we just ran out of steam at the end but it gave us all great belief that we could carry on that momentum into this season but for me it hasn't quite happened, whilst we are well placed in the table the majority of performances this season have been bang average for me with GM still undecided on his best team and formation. Also we've had some shocking results away at Harrogate, Newport & Bromley along with the home mauling by Chesterfield (referee didn't help admittedly)
This might sound controversial but I don't think signing Billy Sharps helped us, Ironside was the focal point of a successful attack last season and although Sharps a goalscorer I don't think we play to his strengths and look a better side with Joe as lone striker. I was excited when we signed Billy & my thinking was we've got two 20 goals a season strikers & we're gonna piss the league! Unfortunately it's not quite happened so far, however I trust Grant to improve us in the window and hopefully we give it good go , the big squad should pay dividends 2nd half of the season and with some quality additions should be looking to win the league, or at worst automatic promotion anything else will be a failure.
I think the reason we haven't seen more goals from Joe and Billy is that they haven't received the support or chances provided by our midfield.
You can't say either of them have missed lots of chances, we don't get decent crosses into the box, neither do we supply any through balls for them to run onto.
I would start today with Broadbent in a deep lying midfield position and Hurst and Gibson on either flank. Molyneux should be sat warming his backside on the bench. He is vastly overrated. Just my opinion of course. :chair: :chair:
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I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee if we were rock bottom with no wins, no draws and 22 losses you’d still be here saying there is still 24 games to go.
The people who have liked this post tells you everything you need to know.
I didn't click 'like' the post but still think it's spot on.
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Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Go read the posts during our good form last season it’s all still there to see
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Go read the posts during our good form last season it’s all still there to see
No I'm good thanks, it's just that you can't 'guarantee' it, same as I can't.
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Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Go read the posts during our good form last season it’s all still there to see
At least we are still technically third. Happy clapper.
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Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Go read the posts during our good form last season it’s all still there to see
At least we are still technically third. Happy clapper.
Actually third, goal difference does count.
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Our midfield is abysmal, not 1 player who can get their foot on the ball and dictate a game. Is Molyneux having problems in his personal life or something because he was shocking and has been for a while now. Doesn't matter whether Joe or Billy's up top if they have nothing but scraps to feed off
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Our midfield is abysmal, not 1 player who can get their foot on the ball and dictate a game. Is Molyneux having problems in his personal life or something because he was shocking and has been for a while now. Doesn't matter whether Joe or Billy's up top if they have nothing but scraps to feed off
I think Moly is off and he knows it, the whole point of his new contract was for us to get a decent fee.
I’m not going to jump on the doom and gloom wagon but the only thing I agree on is that the midfield is the problem.
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Our midfield is abysmal, not 1 player who can get their foot on the ball and dictate a game. Is Molyneux having problems in his personal life or something because he was shocking and has been for a while now. Doesn't matter whether Joe or Billy's up top if they have nothing but scraps to feed off
I think Moly is off and he knows it, the whole point of his new contract was for us to get a decent fee.
How have you reached this conclusion?
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I’ve said as much about the midfield in other posts so won’t go over it again apart from reiterating we need a ‘Whiteman’ like prescence in that midfield (easier said than done I know) because we are far too ‘lightweight’ there.
Anyway, we created some really good chances to have won the game, a fantastic strike by Gibson marred by a stupid, stupid reason to get red carded.
I was watching on TV & Grant with hands in pockets leant towards him as he passed him to go down the tunnel & with what looked like a one word or quick phrase & I don’t think it would have been ‘Unlucky son’!
Last point ‘gained’ as we enter January. As previously predicted, Fleetwood begin our run of five straight victories.
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Our midfield is abysmal, not 1 player who can get their foot on the ball and dictate a game. Is Molyneux having problems in his personal life or something because he was shocking and has been for a while now. Doesn't matter whether Joe or Billy's up top if they have nothing but scraps to feed off
Holy hell! Problems in his personal life, Jesus wept….. Noooo he just has 3 defenders in his personal space. Why can’t we take advantage of the gaps this must leave. He’s outnumbered every game, simple
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Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?
Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.
Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....
I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form
I guarantee they would.
Go read the posts during our good form last season it’s all still there to see
At least we are still technically third. Happy clapper.
Technically 3rd