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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Canadian Rover on January 01, 2025, 07:11:05 pm
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I know he has his critics, but he played very well again. I feel he's a better option for our team than Emmanuel was (even though I think Emmanuel is a better player) Sterry's crossing is excellent.
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Yeah, thought he had a very good game today.
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Think his issue is he has had a goal chance giveaway for the opposition but didn’t notice that happen today, think he and maxwell had very good games today
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He let's people on the inside far too easily.
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We are a better team when Sterry is in it. The midfield and strikers kill our fullbacks. They are only ever left with the option of the wingers with a man in their back or a ball back to the centre halves. At no point do any of the midfield go and stand in the space between the oppositions defence and midfield to link the play. The one time we did it today was when we scored the first goal. We seem to pick up these positions quite often away but never at home and that in my opinion is the reason we have struggled with performances.
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He’s not a good one on one defender, he’s not dynamic, he doesn’t have the legs to get up and down. Real weak point in our team.
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He's our best player in that position. Nixon could potentially pip him but he's currently the more injury prone of the two. Sterry's crossing puts him ahead of Emmanuel, even if he does stepovers.
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He’s not a good one on one defender, he’s not dynamic, he doesn’t have the legs to get up and down. Real weak point in our team.
Played well today but it's an area we should be looking to improve on next season. If we can somehow manage to tie down Olowu that's some defence to build a team around with Olowu , McGrath and Maxwell. Be looking to get TSL back next season even if it's only a loan.
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Who’s idea was if for him to take the last minute direct free kick when we needed to score in that moment to win? Horror show of an effort.
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Who would you have asked to take it Gaz, just curious.
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Who’s idea was if for him to take the last minute direct free kick when we needed to score in that moment to win? Horror show of an effort.
Well it indirectly led to the winning goal
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I like that he was confident to take it. There was one in the first half that was ripe for Hirst to have a pop but he let Molyneux take it. Set pieces and throw ins are a real area for development for us I feel.
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Who’s idea was if for him to take the last minute direct free kick when we needed to score in that moment to win? Horror show of an effort.
I’ve always wondered why he doesn’t take more set pieces. I know a still ball is different to a moving ball but he’s got the best delivery in open play out of anyone in the team.
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I like that he was confident to take it. There was one in the first half that was ripe for Hirst to have a pop but he let Molyneux take it. Set pieces and throw ins are a real area for development for us I feel.
I thought that yesterday. Our corners are very very basic for pro football.
The fact we take out swinging corners annoys me. So much more chance of scoring from in swingers. We hardly ever take short ones as well. Whoever is working on set pieces is of limited ability I’d say.
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We don’t have a dead ball ‘specialist’ end of. Sbarra can take a good corner which he drills into the box at head height & with pace which makes it difficult for a keeper to commit to come for & has a 50/50 chance of dropping to a Rovers head or boot.
But I wouldn’t play him just for his corner taking.
Sterry far too often (again yesterday) opts for the ball back to Olowu. He doesn’t have Emmanuel’s pace to take on & go past players.
Maxwell is a better crosser of the ball in my opinion, he just doesn’t do it often enough. He takes longer to take a throw in than any opponents at 1-0 up!
Moly’s corners I agree are too predictable & an easy gather for a keeper. He looked absolutely shot of confidence yesterday.
His first corner drifted over everyone & into touch & when he & Hurst stood over the ball for the free kick just outside the box first half, I knew exactly the outcome when Moly struck it, embarrassing.
In essence we need a specialised coach to drill dead ball situations routines into the players. It’s an important part of the game as an opportunity to score & we’re dross at it.
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Who’s idea was if for him to take the last minute direct free kick when we needed to score in that moment to win? Horror show of an effort.
Had Moly taken it then we would be talking about a 1-1 draw right now as he quite possibly would’ve missed it and then people would be on his back.
It led to the goal, so who gives a shit
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I like that he was confident to take it. There was one in the first half that was ripe for Hirst to have a pop but he let Molyneux take it. Set pieces and throw ins are a real area for development for us I feel.
I thought that yesterday. Our corners are very very basic for pro football.
The fact we take out swinging corners annoys me. So much more chance of scoring from in swingers. We hardly ever take short ones as well. Whoever is working on set pieces is of limited ability I’d say.
Has there been a change in coaching as we had some really good routines earlier in the season
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Kyle Letheren the GK coach leads set pieces. Presumably leans more towards defensive than attacking. Nearly every corner is knocked to the back post with little variation. We take an eternity to take throw ins and nearly every one from the left hand side went backwards yesterday. Not one from either wing was launched at Ironside to try and flicks on. I know that's a bit old school but in League 2 it's stuff like that which works.
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It's a poor showing when we had to rely on our left back to provide quality balls in the box
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It's a poor showing when we had to rely on our left back to provide quality balls in the box
Why is that then? We play them as wing backs, part of their job is getting crosses in? :ermm:
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Kyle Letheren the GK coach leads set pieces. Presumably leans more towards defensive than attacking. Nearly every corner is knocked to the back post with little variation. We take an eternity to take throw ins and nearly every one from the left hand side went backwards yesterday. Not one from either wing was launched at Ironside to try and flicks on. I know that's a bit old school but in League 2 it's stuff like that which works.
Floating out swinging corners doesn’t work at any level! That’s down to the coaching staff to rectify.
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I personally think sterry is a solid performer.
Consistently a 7 out of 10.
He gets alot of assists too
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I like that he was confident to take it. There was one in the first half that was ripe for Hirst to have a pop but he let Molyneux take it. Set pieces and throw ins are a real area for development for us I feel.
I thought that yesterday. Our corners are very very basic for pro football.
The fact we take out swinging corners annoys me. So much more chance of scoring from in swingers. We hardly ever take short ones as well. Whoever is working on set pieces is of limited ability I’d say.
Unlike last season when we looked to play short, allowing Molyneux to cut inside. So why the hell have we changed tactics? Also yesterday Sbarra took a corner and was right on the money, but ref blew for a foul. 5 mins later same corner spot and Molyneux took it and just lofted it straight to the keeper. As said our set pieces need a big shake up.
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Lol. I quite like him too. For those from another era, he reminds me of Dangerous Dave Morley. Nice to watch, does good things, and, drops a changer regularly. But players like that make the game more interesting. It ain't possible to predict outcomes!
BobG
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Lol. I quite like him too. For those from another era, he reminds me of Dangerous Dave Morley. Nice to watch, does good things, and, drops a changer regularly. But players like that make the game more interesting. It ain't possible to predict outcomes!
BobG
I remember the bullet header at the Britannia stadium very well
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Sterry was infuriating in the first half, constantly refusing to play the ball forward when the receiver was in plenty of space and instead turning and passing it back to Olowu. Seemed better 2nd half but for those saying he had a great game what was you watching?
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Kyle Letheren the GK coach leads set pieces. Presumably leans more towards defensive than attacking. Nearly every corner is knocked to the back post with little variation. We take an eternity to take throw ins and nearly every one from the left hand side went backwards yesterday. Not one from either wing was launched at Ironside to try and flicks on. I know that's a bit old school but in League 2 it's stuff like that which works.
Why is a goalkeeping specialist coach leading set piece thinking? Their attitude is to stop them producing goals, he sure achieves that!
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Seems like a long time ago that Haks scored direct from a corner, do we have anyone who could take a corner like him?
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Agree you’ve go to be swinging corners in always looks far more dangerous.
Sterry’s got a good cross on him but if you were an opposition manager you’d try to play on him. Also think he doesn’t power forwards enough past the winger. This doesn’t help Moly much imo
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Sterry seems to be this seasons scapegoat, does a lot of stuff defensively that a lot of fans don’t notice like just getting infront of the winger or a little nudge here and there to see the ball out for a goal kick or throw (because it’s not a last ditch slide tackle it doesn’t get the praise). He’s a bit of a shithouse with it aswell (Morecambe away last season perfect example).
He’s also got the most assists in the team, crossing is superb and as for the free kick at the end yesterday, I’m surprised he took it but tbf a couple of players (think it was Bailey and McGrath) spoke to David on one of the red and white shows earlier in the season and said that Sterry is the best striker of a ball in the team.
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I really rate him and think he brings some quality that is lacking in a lot of our team.
The chap sat in front of me yesterday (and I’m sure I’ve heard him before) hates him, all you hear is ‘f*****g Sterry again’ every time the lad puts a foot wrong. I mean we are in L2 they’re not going to never make an error but at least he puts an effort in.
Then again the same chap was suggesting taking McGrath off for Anderson so I’m not sure he’s playing with a full deck lmao.
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It's a poor showing when we had to rely on our left back to provide quality balls in the box
Why is that then? We play them as wing backs, part of their job is getting crosses in? :ermm:
We went with a flat back four yesterday, but I don't disagree it's a fullbacks job to overlap and get crosses in. What I'm saying is the only cross of any real quality was from Maxwell which we scored from, great header from Bailey by the way. What doesn't help our wingers is the fact we've nobody brave enough in midfield to take the ball in tight areas, hence why the back four have to play it between themselves & the keeper which then gives our opponents time to get back behind the ball and into their shape making it extremely difficult to play against.
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It's a poor showing when we had to rely on our left back to provide quality balls in the box
Why is that then? We play them as wing backs, part of their job is getting crosses in? :ermm:
We went with a flat back four yesterday, but I don't disagree it's a fullbacks job to overlap and get crosses in. What I'm saying is the only cross of any real quality was from Maxwell which we scored from, great header from Bailey by the way. What doesn't help our wingers is the fact we've nobody brave enough in midfield to take the ball in tight areas, hence why the back four have to play it between themselves & the keeper which then gives our opponents time to get back behind the ball and into their shape making it extremely difficult to play against.
Yeah agree we had a flat back 4 but when in possession the push on like WBs. We definitely have a different shape when in/out of possession. I actually though Moly was stiffling Sterry yesterday by standing still on the wing whereas conversely on the opposite wing Hurst was drifting inside more which gave Maxwell the space to push forward.
I'm not the biggest fan of sterry regards defensive duties but he is best we have going forward.
I was getting really frustrated with Moly yesterday, so predictable and never looked to get a cross in.
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He did play well, and was probably close to being mom, but his one on one defending seems weak to me, he always seems to get beat.
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Our short corners with Molyneux and Westbrooke during the first half of last season were really imaginative and effective. What happened to them?
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Our short corners with Molyneux and Westbrooke during the first half of last season were really imaginative and effective. What happened to them?
They were very good throughout the season and yet there were still people in the stadium and on here complaining about them.
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I disagree about outswinging corners, it’s a lot easier to get powers in a header that’s coming towards you to attack than away from you.
We’ve looked good this year at corners I think and scored from a few
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I disagree about outswinging corners, it’s a lot easier to get powers in a header that’s coming towards you to attack than away from you.
We’ve looked good this year at corners I think and scored from a few
More goals get scored per in swinging corner than they do out swingers.
Not saying our corners have been terrible this season but they certainly could be a more consistent threat.
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I disagree about outswinging corners, it’s a lot easier to get powers in a header that’s coming towards you to attack than away from you.
We’ve looked good this year at corners I think and scored from a few
More goals get scored per in swinging corner than they do out swingers.
Not saying our corners have been terrible this season but they certainly could be a more consistent threat.
What’s the ratio between them? Set piece FC take unbelievable corners, we don’t have anyone to rival the delivery of Rice or Saka but their inswingers always look so threatening.
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He is a steady player not sure why he gets slated so much really,the number of times he comes up against wingers and nearly always he is left one on one!!!yes gets bet at times by them but still manages most of the time recovers to stop the cross yet going the other way Molly gets slated when he loses the ball when comes up against 2 or 3 defenders on him
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Lots of people also overlook the defensive work that Mols does too.
Him and Sterry work very well together at both ends of the pitch.
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I disagree about outswinging corners, it’s a lot easier to get powers in a header that’s coming towards you to attack than away from you.
We’ve looked good this year at corners I think and scored from a few
More goals get scored per in swinging corner than they do out swingers.
Not saying our corners have been terrible this season but they certainly could be a more consistent threat.
What’s the ratio between them? Set piece FC take unbelievable corners, we don’t have anyone to rival the delivery of Rice or Saka but their inswingers always look so threatening.
Not allowing for the blocks on the keeper. Against Brentford Saliba not only jumps in front of the keeper and leans in to him but also puts his arms across to pin him back preventing him for going for the ball
Just watch the replay and VAR allow it, it couldn't happen in our league the ref would give the foul
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I thought Sterry played really well, our best player along with Olowu.
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It's a poor showing when we had to rely on our left back to provide quality balls in the box
Why is that then? We play them as wing backs, part of their job is getting crosses in? :ermm:
We went with a flat back four yesterday, but I don't disagree it's a fullbacks job to overlap and get crosses in. What I'm saying is the only cross of any real quality was from Maxwell which we scored from, great header from Bailey by the way. What doesn't help our wingers is the fact we've nobody brave enough in midfield to take the ball in tight areas, hence why the back four have to play it between themselves & the keeper which then gives our opponents time to get back behind the ball and into their shape making it extremely difficult to play against.
The best player we have in midfield at taking under pressure and in tight situations is Ben Close, always gives an option and rarely loses the ball, yes there are times when he plays the safe pass but I’d much rather him doing that than go long and lose it if it isn’t on. The problem with Close in there is that he’s not the quickest and isn’t great off the ball.
Broadbent has done well in most games this season and does take the ball under pressure and also has the off the ball work to break up play a lot. He’s still learning the new role tho and like yesterday he received the ball but was a bad touch and wasn’t aware of the danger (McCann mentioned about his body position) he will grow into a good enough player in that position imo but will make mistakes and needs time.
It’s a completely different role to the box to box midfielder which is what he’s played throughout his early career.
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I think the community work he does is the mark of the man .He has obviously put a lot of thought and effort into raising money for the food banks of Doncaster with that raffle he organised for fans .
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Admirable work but it doesn’t make him a better player.
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Usher .His character does not start and end in a football shirt.GM and his staff take a man’s character into consideration before they sign him , fortunately, since character is a determinant for all of us whatever we do .
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What supporters are missing in Sterry's case when he plays and anyone else at right back or even on our right flank, most of the oppositions attacks are down our left flank where we are easily got at because we lack pace there and makes his life easy.
Olowu apart from yesterday when he fell for a dummy has done well even Moly tracks back and works hard in front of him, why attack that side of our team when you can run past players on the left flank who are not fast enough to get back at you and give you the extra couple of yards room in the area to score goals from short range most tackles being a desperate lunge to try and stop a shot.
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I personally think sterry is a solid performer.
Consistently a 7 out of 10.
He gets alot of assists too
I think that’s a bit generous, a 5 at best