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Title: Center backs
Post by: keith79 on January 12, 2025, 07:45:07 pm
I think these 2 are good enough to play in the championship.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: karlos on January 12, 2025, 07:48:54 pm
Absolutely
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: drfchound on January 12, 2025, 07:50:40 pm
Both were very good today, with Olowu the MoM for me.
I loved the way Jay ran to us after the shootout whilst sticking out his tongue and beaming a big smile at the Hull fans.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: colincramb on January 12, 2025, 08:02:37 pm
Both were superb. They can certainly play at a higher level just need to keep the concentration and cut out the silly errors, although Olowu has improved no end in this department. I always think the Wrexham home game last season was the turning point for him. Still has mullin in his pocket somewhere
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: normal rules on January 12, 2025, 08:08:47 pm
Hope olowu gets tied down with a deal
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: drfchound on January 12, 2025, 08:09:32 pm
He would probably be our best signing for next season. And he does seem to have a genuine connection with the fans.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: StocksArmy on January 12, 2025, 08:12:28 pm
Olowu fantastic again and McGrath back to his best.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 12, 2025, 08:16:19 pm
Olowu fantastic again and McGrath back to his best.

We don't know what their best is yet. They are both young centre halves and improving.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Metalmicky on January 12, 2025, 08:17:35 pm
Good performances by both from what I have seen.... would like to have seen a new contract offer in place on Olowu already.... he has developed into an excellent player and is probably too good for league 2.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: andyst79 on January 12, 2025, 08:19:29 pm
Did well especially considering they were walking a disciplinary tightrope for the majority of the game. Hull were dogshit tbf especially after Vaughan went off
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: selby on January 12, 2025, 08:24:17 pm
  Olowu's agent will have a big say whether he is with us or not next season, he will want him to move on, it is how they make their money.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: GazLaz on January 12, 2025, 08:38:53 pm
I’m sure Olowu will get offers from L1 and above. Not sure there is any incentive for him to stay.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 12, 2025, 08:41:47 pm
I’m sure Olowu will get offers from L1 and above. Not sure there is any incentive for him to stay.

Unfortunately I agree and not much Rovers can do. Oluwu has improved this last twelve months hugely.  It will be tough to keep him.  But if I was throwing money at any centre half it's McGrath for me, he'll go for big money if we keep him.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: andyst79 on January 12, 2025, 08:44:53 pm
I’m sure Olowu will get offers from L1 and above. Not sure there is any incentive for him to stay.
Need to get promoted to have any chance of keeping him
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: mushRTID on January 12, 2025, 08:50:02 pm
It’s no different to last year.
When you are one of the better sides in the league, you simply need to go up to keep most of your better players.

Moly signing was an exception. I’m sure going up we would have kept Haks, Craig and TLT
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: swintonrover on January 12, 2025, 08:50:56 pm
At the start of the start of the game, when McGrath ran over, he started singing along with the crowd.
It's so nice to have players who just get the fans, the sooner we get them two tied down to longer contracts, the better.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 12, 2025, 08:55:25 pm
Today demonstrated to me who can play at the division above. Certainly all our back 4, Bailey, Molyneux, Street.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 12, 2025, 09:11:45 pm
Olowu deserved the hype today. Monumental.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Canadian Rover on January 12, 2025, 09:15:40 pm
5 year contract with a big pay raise and minimum release clause. That should do it!!
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: IDM on January 12, 2025, 09:18:16 pm
  Olowu's agent will have a big say whether he is with us or not next season, he will want him to move on, it is how they make their money.

Does an agent get a fee if he/she negotiates a player contract extension?
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: silent majority on January 12, 2025, 09:25:46 pm
  Olowu's agent will have a big say whether he is with us or not next season, he will want him to move on, it is how they make their money.

Does an agent get a fee if he/she negotiates a player contract extension?

As a rule, yes.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: NickDRFC on January 12, 2025, 09:29:18 pm
Even if we go up I can see Olowu moving to a bigger club, he’s been exceptional this season. Hoping I’m wrong or at least as a parting gift he can leave us as a League One club.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 12, 2025, 09:31:59 pm
You’d like to think a decent pay rise and reasonable release clause would keep them. Then again the agent may say you’ll get offers on a free but not with a 250-500k price tag and that will seal the deal. I’m sure we can pay as well as a lot of the L1 clubs for the right player.

Not sure defenders in L2 can command big money unless they’re doing it at 18 years old not 26 or whatever Olowu is.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: GazLaz on January 12, 2025, 09:32:54 pm
I’m sure Olowu will get offers from L1 and above. Not sure there is any incentive for him to stay.

Unfortunately I agree and not much Rovers can do. Oluwu has improved this last twelve months hugely.  It will be tough to keep him.  But if I was throwing money at any centre half it's McGrath for me, he'll go for big money if we keep him.

Can’t let players who are improving rapidly, who you have spent years developing, get into the last year of their contract. Especially ones that you have had interest in previously.

Obviously contracts may have been offered previously and rejected but it screams of not knowing how good he was as recently as 5 months ago. McCann went into the season with Joe as the 4th choice remember.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 12, 2025, 09:41:55 pm
There is something in that. We can complain about him not been tied down but he wasn’t 1st choice at all going into the season. I’m not sure if that’s the managers fault or a reasonable call given performances last season (some good some bad)

I’m kind of inclined to agree with the P’boro way of doing things and getting rid if you won’t extend in the summer before the last season. Obviously you’d only do it for certain players of value but we can’t afford to let good players walk out for nothing.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Ryaldinhio on January 12, 2025, 09:47:21 pm
I'm not convinced he is going. He seems to have a real connection with the fans here, only McGrath tops him for that.

He has been here through the tough times, I think he will stay for the better tines that are now on the way.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Bills view on January 12, 2025, 10:05:23 pm
Agree with previous posters that the defence looked solid today and thought Maxwell played more like we know he can.

The two centre backs complement each other well and were the stand out performers.

I rate TSL too.



Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: selby on January 12, 2025, 10:44:36 pm
  Playing a better class of team today, and no recriminations , but no clean sheet and we switched off for their goal and they had more joy attacking our left side second half than the right in the first half, a direct pass through the lines and slow when the ball came off the post, hard yes but no clean sheet.
  It was a poor goal to give away, and for once we carried some luck, they missed some easy chances and our keeper pulled off two terrific saves. shoulda, coulda, woulda, yes we have been there, hard luck we win.
  We battled and scrambled and it came off for us, we deserved a bit of luck, and could point to we could have had a penalty, and they will point to our keeper should have been sent off, it's football and the result is everything.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Albert Trousers on January 12, 2025, 10:59:20 pm
I thought Maxwell had a bit of a torrid time today, his passing & 1st touch were awful although he did get better as the game went on.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: drfchound on January 12, 2025, 11:14:56 pm
I thought Maxwell had a bit of a torrid time today, his passing & 1st touch were awful although he did get better as the game went on.

That’s how I saw his game today.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Drover on January 13, 2025, 12:00:19 am
I’m sure Olowu will get offers from L1 and above. Not sure there is any incentive for him to stay.
Need to get promoted to have any chance of keeping him
:that:
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Drover on January 13, 2025, 12:04:53 am
Did well especially considering they were walking a disciplinary tightrope for the majority of the game. Hull were dogshit tbf especially after Vaughan went off

Yeah,I was pleasantly surprised he took him off,he reminds me of Jarrod Bowen,strong on the ball,quick,agile and direct,most likely to cause us problems.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: GazLaz on January 13, 2025, 08:14:21 am
I thought Maxwell had a bit of a torrid time today, his passing & 1st touch were awful although he did get better as the game went on.


They got in behind him at will in the second half.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: Cramby10 on January 13, 2025, 08:22:41 am
I thought Maxwell had a bit of a torrid time today, his passing & 1st touch were awful although he did get better as the game went on.
ye agree with this. Even though I think one of our best players when on it, it looked like he was playing with a diving boot on his left peg in that first half. His first touch completely deserted him. He did as you said improve second half.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: GazLaz on January 13, 2025, 08:33:24 am
I thought Maxwell had a bit of a torrid time today, his passing & 1st touch were awful although he did get better as the game went on.
ye agree with this. Even though I think one of our best players when on it, it looked like he was playing with a diving boot on his left peg in that first half. His first touch completely deserted him. He did as you said improve second half.

Certainly not disagreeing, as he was off it, but he does often try to touch the ball past the man he’s up against and follow the ball into the space. Was getting that wrong in the first half and did sometimes look like he was trying to control the ball and it just bouncing off.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 13, 2025, 09:41:30 am
I thought Maxwell had a bit of a torrid time today, his passing & 1st touch were awful although he did get better as the game went on.


They got in behind him at will in the second half.

I was surprised he played 120 minutes, he's barely played 70 in most games.  But that will do his fitness good in the long term, bigger picture etc and on a torrid pitch.  First half everything for them went the other side and Hull's right winger was rapid, albeit lazy and with little end product.

The run from Maxwell for the goal was excellent though, cut open lots of space and created room for others.
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: rich1471 on January 13, 2025, 10:25:03 am
  Playing a better class of team today, and no recriminations , but no clean sheet and we switched off for their goal and they had more joy attacking our left side second half than the right in the first half, a direct pass through the lines and slow when the ball came off the post, hard yes but no clean sheet.
  It was a poor goal to give away, and for once we carried some luck, they missed some easy chances and our keeper pulled off two terrific saves. shoulda, coulda, woulda, yes we have been there, hard luck we win.
  We battled and scrambled and it came off for us, we deserved a bit of luck, and could point to we could have had a penalty, and they will point to our keeper should have been sent off, it's football and the result is everything.
There attack came from a throw that should not have been given as the ball never went out and the goal came within 60 seconds after ,the referee was terrible the whole game
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: thumper on January 13, 2025, 10:30:14 am
Need to tie them both down to long term deals, I'd be looking to give McGrath a new long term deals in the summer. Keeps developing at this rate and he's going places
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: adamtherover on January 13, 2025, 12:46:11 pm
when jo was orchestrating the crowd at the end in the corner,   it was sheer joy....   the connection between the fans and the team was immense...
Title: Re: Center backs
Post by: RoversInSpain on January 13, 2025, 08:25:44 pm
when jo was orchestrating the crowd at the end in the corner,   it was sheer joy....   the connection between the fans and the team was immense...
Joe’s been fab since Wrexham at home.
Prior to that he was not far short of shocking.
I’ve no idea where this turnaround has come from? Coaching team, Richard Wood? Having Jay next to him? …who to me has been very very good since day 1.
So I hope Joe remembers this… he owes us another 2 good seasons to balance it out, then off you go to bigger greater things young man, with the best of wishes.