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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on January 13, 2025, 10:13:09 am
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The heady excitement of the win in the FA cup in which we probably, although battling it out used a big slice of our seasons luck up due to Hull's inept display in front of goal we come back down to Earth travelling to Gillingham, often our bogey team who love playing us, and after losing their last three league fixtures against Colchester, AFC Wimbledon, and Bromley will be looking to us to do our usual trick , which goes way back of getting teams short of a win back on track.
This could be viewed as a much more important game than Hull. in a completely different atmosphere at a place that to me has shown that life oop north as the southerners like to say is not that bad, my view of Gillingham the place being a dog hole compared with most up here not changed in years, every street seeming to be lined with dustbins.
Back to the game, they have a newish manager, a squad put together and fancied to do well early this season and have underperformed, and have not played since the 2nd of January because of the weather, while we have slugged it out in tight games that were energy sapping and we could have picked up some minor injuries.
All things that spell my usual fear we could slip up down there but live in hope we will not.
Could we in fact have another addition before this game?
The surroundings in the stadium could be no more stark than a visit to Hull's modern set up, there are many more welcoming and comfortable places to watch football in non league particularly if seated on the scaffolding temporary stand that seems to have been there for ever.
Their last two wins were v Salford and MK Dons on the 7 th and 14th of December which shows they can compete with the stronger sides in the division so can be dangerous, and we need a league win to not drop down and behind the top sides, a lot on this game.
So what do you think? sorry for what I see as a little realism after the excitement yesterday.
Can we close the gap at the top and remain in the race?
Can we rediscover our best form?
Can we stop a team from scoring? which gives you your best chance of getting something out of a game.
Could we have another signing before this game?
Are you going to the game?
Lots to mull over, can we ride the excitement generated by yesterdays result? can we build on it? lots of questions, and for a few weeks a league quest of promotion disrupted in a good way but could be a distraction.
What do you think? please have your say.
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Me and the son-in-law will be there. Just a short train journey for us.
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Do we talk to the game now instead of about it lol!
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What I take from yesterday's game is that we defended as a team but against L2 opposition we don't do that. If the lads would put that approach into every fixture we would see a big change in our results.
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With regards to the OP, it was inevitable that the Hull players would generally be better technically than our lads and as a result, would be more likely to create more scoring opportunities.
We did really well to contain them and our game plan worked a treat.
Of course we had a bit of good luck but don’t you always need a bit of that to win any game?
Gillingham of course won’t be anywhere near the standard that we were up against yesterday and we have a very good chance of winning the game.
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What I take from yesterday's game is that we defended as a team but against L2 opposition we don't do that. If the lads would put that approach into every fixture we would see a big change in our results.
I agree with all this, but our main problem is moving forward on a break to score. Mols goal against Hull was everything we should be looking to do in Lg.2, if they create that sort of movement we will go on the same sort of run as last year.
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Play well and we have a chance against anyone in our division, but we are always likely to let goals in this season and as pointed out we are slow getting the ball forward or as one manager said the other week we overplay it and make mistakes.
Our goals against has to be a concern and has cost us points regularly.
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Do we talk to the game now instead of about it lol!
Yes, come on Selby, sort it out. Speak proper.
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Do we talk to the game now instead of about it lol!
I think Selby's first name is Brian not Lol...
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As we have shown many times if we turn up there are not many sides will beat us. The Hull FA Cup win showed a side to our defending we haven’t seen enough of.Perform as against Hull and the 3 points should be ours. Pleased the game is being televised as a trip to Gillingham( having been once before) is no longer on my bucket list.
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I have decided not to modify the op as it could be bad luck, and also confirms to many who know me well they are right when they say how stupid I can be, got a good feeling about the result now, its an omen.
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I have decided not to modify the op as it could be bad luck, and also confirms to many who know me well they are right when they say how stupid I can be, got a good feeling about the result now, its an omen.
Brian, if Syd came on the football forum he would be all over the highlighted bit of of your post mate.
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I have decided not to modify the op as it could be bad luck, and also confirms to many who know me well they are right when they say how stupid I can be, got a good feeling about the result now, its an omen.
Brian, if Syd came on the football forum he would be all over the highlighted bit of of your post mate.
It would be nice to keep your childish remarks in the other section, where you can play in the playground to your hearts content instead of coming in here to play
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I have decided not to modify the op as it could be bad luck, and also confirms to many who know me well they are right when they say how stupid I can be, got a good feeling about the result now, its an omen.
Brian, if Syd came on the football forum he would be all over the highlighted bit of of your post mate.
It would be nice to keep your childish remarks in the other section, where you can play in the playground to your hearts content instead of coming in here to play
My comment wasn’t a political one though Filo so doesn’t belong in “the other section”.
You don’t seem to mind when other posters have a dig at someone, and there are lots of abusive ones by the way, so why come out of your box when I mention Syd.
He won’t be upset anyway because he won’t see it.
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Couldn't argue in this case hound he would be right caught out hook line and sinker mate, didn't even know, who reads my op's anyway, can't believe it.
A lot on the game backing up the enthusiasm generated at Hull would be great getting a win, as I have posted before big kudos to the supporters absolutely fantastic support of the team at Hull that you could see at the end of the game they had fed off to some extent during the game. and like our generations memories of visits to Anfield Goodison and White Hart Lane, youngsters will remember Sunday the rest of their lives as I was there that day.
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The feeling at the end was one of a big connection between the fans and the players.
Olowu, McGrath and Sharman-Lowe in particular looked to be buzzing.
As you say, it was an I was there situation.
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The feeling at the end was one of a big connection between the fans and the players.
Olowu, McGrath and Sharman-Lowe in particular looked to be buzzing.
As you say, it was an I was there situation.
McGrath sticking his tongue out to the hull fans was funny and really wound them up while smiling
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The feeling at the end was one of a big connection between the fans and the players.
Olowu, McGrath and Sharman-Lowe in particular looked to be buzzing.
As you say, it was an I was there situation.
McGrath sticking his tongue out to the hull fans was funny and really wound them up while smiling
It was, I mentioned it somewhere on here after the game.
Jay certainly knows how to work the fans.
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We have a terrible record at Gillingham.
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We have a terrible record at Gillingham.
Just done a quick tot up this.
W2. D11. L26.
So not too bad :whistle:
I was actually there for one of the wins, back in 2018 when we won 3-1.
It was the only game in which Marquis was subbed while playing for Rovers by the way.
All runs come to an end.
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Me and the son-in-law will be there. Just a short train journey for us.
Let's hope you bring us luck and we score a couple of pearlers -from memory it's always windy there as when Marquis did us once.
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Sure it’s not needed but reminder that it’s a 12:30 kick off so early start from Donny for us
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Really, really need to start putting results together if we have a genuine chance to finish in the top 3. For a team that still convinces its watching public that it’s still on track for the auto’s, nothing less than 3 points will do.
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Sure it’s not needed but reminder that it’s a 12:30 kick off so early start from Donny for us
Will be on Sky Sports + then
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Sure it’s not needed but reminder that it’s a 12:30 kick off so early start from Donny for us
Will be on Sky Sports + then
Yes it is.
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On R.Sheffield for those of us not contributing to the wealth of the Murdochs.
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Didn't think Murdoch was still part of Sky?
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Again, neither Rupert Murdoch or any member of the Murdoch family, or his company 21st Century Fox, has had anything to do with Sky or Sky Sports since 2018.
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On R.Sheffield for those of us not contributing to the wealth of the Murdochs.
Its 2025, they are long gone!!
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I'm convinced some people come on here and don't read anyone else's posts.
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I have decided not to modify the op as it could be bad luck, and also confirms to many who know me well they are right when they say how stupid I can be, got a good feeling about the result now, its an omen.
Brian, if Syd came on the football forum he would be all over the highlighted bit of of your post mate.
It would be nice to keep your childish remarks in the other section, where you can play in the playground to your hearts content instead of coming in here to play
My comment wasn’t a political one though Filo so doesn’t belong in “the other section”.
You don’t seem to mind when other posters have a dig at someone, and there are lots of abusive ones by the way, so why come out of your box when I mention Syd.
He won’t be upset anyway because he won’t see it.
Whqt the moderators really said:
''To be fair the moderators have tried to stay out of the loop when it comes to certain posters trading insults on here. But, because of the numerous moderator reports that we keep having to deal with we can't ignore it any more, especially seeing as the insults are now making their way onto the main board.
We will delete all posts that we feel are stoking the ill feeling and request that you all refrain from posting such inflammatory posts. You all know who we mean, and especially those that are constantly stoking the fires.
It needs to stop!''
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Syd we play Gillingham on Saturday
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Looking at the Gillingham squad names they should be doing a lot better than they are, and who wouldn't put it past the old Accrington manager Coleman to get a tune out of them at the wrong time for us.
If players like Bradley Dack and anything like fit we could be in for a hard time if we are not on top of our own game, and with new players on board we need them to integrate from the off.
Looking at their supporters comments it seems they also think that their play from back to front is slow, and hopefully our new lads bring a bit of pace into our game that can take advantage of their play if the supporters are right.
Whatever we have never exactly found it easy against them in the past, the odd time we have come away with the points, but normally it has been a long journey home after a torrid time
We need a win, at our best we are capable of getting a win, and we are at the time of the year when a couple of teams normally find form consistently and draw away from the rest in the division, the part of the season when promotion is won, and we need to be one of those sides and emulate this part of last season if possible, it will be a hard act to follow.
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Couple of players in rovers camp have gone down with illness
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Couple of players in rovers camp have gone down with illness
Couldn’t write it get a nearly fit squad then illness sweeps through
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Couple of players in rovers camp have gone down with illness
Couldn’t write it get a nearly fit squad then illness sweeps through
Only 2 players he said.
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Sure it’s not needed but reminder that it’s a 12:30 kick off so early start from Donny for us
It WAS needed. Cheers Rd
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Didn't think Murdoch was still part of Sky?
Be fair, he’s only not been a part since 2018!
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Didn't think Murdoch was still part of Sky?
Be fair, he’s only not been a part since 2018!
Has the culture changed much since then though? I suppose you could say that it has infused the entire industry without having much impact on the subscriptions. Has not competition amongst the providers and the bargaining power of the sporting organisations driven costs and subscriptions up? When it was only Murdoch, he could name the price.
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Dare I say Sky are now probably paying alot more money to TLOD than ever before, and provide a worldwide option for anyone to watch. I’ve never had so many acquaintances come up to me and say ‘I watched Rovers yesterday’ (usually followed by ‘What happened?’)
If we accept their money to bring in new signings that everyone demands, then I can’t understand the moaning we get every time someone announces Rovers are on Sky.
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Because for people who attend in person it is usually highly inconvenient.
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I imagine that these exclusive TV broadcasts will be slowly eroded by the rapid growth of the firestick revolution and that is probably not a bad thing if it brings an end to the ridiculous money that is spent in the top echelons of the game with only token sharing of the spoils with grassroots football.
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Because for people who attend in person it is usually highly inconvenient.
But not everyone, even local to Doncaster, is able to attend matches, home or away. If you've got the resources and health to be there you are fortunate.
Even if you are just lazy or too busy, is it not beneficial for the club to have as many supporters or just followers as possible? The latter categories probably make up the main percentage of TV sports subscribers and have a genuine interest, often in a range of sports and admittedly we are the Providers' captive audience.
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A good win , both teams could have had a few goals , but Mols took his chance though Billy will be furious with himself for his missed opportunity. Onwards and upwards now !!
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First ever league double over Gillingham. They always seemed a very hard team to beat, home or away.
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Great reward for our travelling fans. A big 3 points to bring back on the coaches.
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Like Hull another hard game defending, unlike at Hull we kept a hard fought clean sheet at last and looked controlled doing it solid down the centre and stopped a lot of ball coming into the box out wide topped off with a great finish by Molly.
Not a pitch or day for great football but well done a real team effort again at a place not easy to go to and bring back the points.
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Excellent battling win that. And for a change a very good ref.
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Great result!! :boxing:
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Excellent battling win that. And for a change a very good ref.
Apart from the ref giving us 2 yellow cards 1 to Olowu for being near someone and the 2nd to McCann for complaining about it.
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Excellent battling win that. And for a change a very good ref.
Apart from the ref giving us 2 yellow cards 1 to Olowu for being near someone and the 2nd to McCann for complaining about it.
Molly also got a yellow
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I think he means yellows that shouldn't have been given
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Good to see Maxwell back to his best.
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Good to see Maxwell back to his best.
I hope that really wasn't his best, defending is his primary role and he leaves something to be desired in that department. Had a nice mazy run late on but earlier tried a run to the byline and was made to look poor by a L2 defender.
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A great improvement in the midfield. We always looked to get the ball forward. It was interesting to see Ironside playing wide, an interesting variation. Crew and Street may not have been outstanding, but they both had a positive attitude. We were altogether more dynamic with no standing around waiting for the ball.
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Good to see Maxwell back to his best.
I hope that really wasn't his best, defending is his primary role and he leaves something to be desired in that department. Had a nice mazy run late on but earlier tried a run to the byline and was made to look poor by a L2 defender.
I think he adds a lot to the team, it was him who made L2 defenders look poor with that run late on and we did not concede a goal today. Job done.
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Great win with a dogged defensive performance. Don’t think we looked particularly troubled in the 2nd half. Played OK in fits and starts going forward but plenty of room for improvement still.
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We have a terrible record at Gillingham.
Just done a quick tot up this.
W2. D11. L26.
So not too bad :whistle:
I was actually there for one of the wins, back in 2018 when we won 3-1.
It was the only game in which Marquis was subbed while playing for Rovers by the way.
All runs come to an end.
Until today Stats could look bit worse if you factor in the Brighton games played there
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A great result on a ground that's normally a graveyard for us. Had to withstand the Alamo for the first half hour but a brilliant breakaway goal took the wind out of their sails. Can't believe that Billy missed a chance to give us some breathing space but great defensive display second half to bring home the points. RTID.
Can't decide who's the worst commentator, Mickey Walker or Peter Catt. Possibly the boy Walker!
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Try wathhing Sky+, the bloke never shuts up mostly drivel
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A great result on a ground that's normally a graveyard for us. Had to withstand the Alamo for the first half hour but a brilliant breakaway goal took the wind out of their sails. Can't believe that Billy missed a chance to give us some breathing space but great defensive display second half to bring home the points. RTID.
Can't decide who's the worst commentator, Mickey Walker or Peter Catt. Possibly the boy Walker!
Whilst Peter Catt does undoubtedly have a voice ideally suited for his career as a print journalist, you can't knock his knowledge or enthusiasm. Mickey Walker doesn't even come across as a fan most of the time
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Mickey Walker is horrific. The main commentator comes out with bizarre things that haven't even happened too. Bailey at handballed it in our own area when he headed the ball clear at one stage according to him. I think he forgets people are watching this now as well as not only listening and over dramatises things
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Try wathhing Sky+, the bloke never shuts up mostly drivel
He sounded like a Gillingham supporter - very partial
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A great result on a ground that's normally a graveyard for us. Had to withstand the Alamo for the first half hour but a brilliant breakaway goal took the wind out of their sails. Can't believe that Billy missed a chance to give us some breathing space but great defensive display second half to bring home the points. RTID.
Can't decide who's the worst commentator, Mickey Walker or Peter Catt. Possibly the boy Walker!
Whilst Peter Catt does undoubtedly have a voice ideally suited for his career as a print journalist, you can't knock his knowledge or enthusiasm. Mickey Walker doesn't even come across as a fan most of the time
He is a Rovers fan though.
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What was the name of the Commentator 2002 ish he was famous for his mispronunciation.
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A great result on a ground that's normally a graveyard for us. Had to withstand the Alamo for the first half hour but a brilliant breakaway goal took the wind out of their sails. Can't believe that Billy missed a chance to give us some breathing space but great defensive display second half to bring home the points. RTID.
Can't decide who's the worst commentator, Mickey Walker or Peter Catt. Possibly the boy Walker!
Whilst Peter Catt does undoubtedly have a voice ideally suited for his career as a print journalist, you can't knock his knowledge or enthusiasm. Mickey Walker doesn't even come across as a fan most of the time
He is a Rovers fan though.
Why does he commentate like he does? Over compensating?
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What was the name of the Commentator 2002 ish he was famous for his mispronunciation.
At the ground? 'Crystal' Ken Avis
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A great result on a ground that's normally a graveyard for us. Had to withstand the Alamo for the first half hour but a brilliant breakaway goal took the wind out of their sails. Can't believe that Billy missed a chance to give us some breathing space but great defensive display second half to bring home the points. RTID.
Can't decide who's the worst commentator, Mickey Walker or Peter Catt. Possibly the boy Walker!
Whilst Peter Catt does undoubtedly have a voice ideally suited for his career as a print journalist, you can't knock his knowledge or enthusiasm. Mickey Walker doesn't even come across as a fan most of the time
He is a Rovers fan though.
Why does he commentate like he does? Over compensating?
Probably, yes.
He told me that he has to try to remain “neutral”.
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What was the name of the Commentator 2002 ish he was famous for his mispronunciation.
Perhaps you mean Brian Bradley or Bradders, sadly no longer with us. He was excellent value.
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Walker is cringeworthy as a summariser, he must think his main job is to be a comedian when nothing he says is remotely entertaining.
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Bradders was hilarious. Not so much his mispronunciation, more that he would get a bit carried away and rather than describe what was happening, there were lots of ooooo’s and rrrrr’s! So you never knew what was actually happening!!
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Good to see Maxwell back to his best.
I hope that really wasn't his best, defending is his primary role and he leaves something to be desired in that department. Had a nice mazy run late on but earlier tried a run to the byline and was made to look poor by a L2 defender.
I think he adds a lot to the team, it was him who made L2 defenders look poor with that run late on and we did not concede a goal today. Job done.
It was a great run, and a great battling win. But Maxwell is a liability at the moment, at Hull and yesterday he made a couple of big mistakes. Like Broadband in the last few games, their performances haven't been terrible, but big mistakes will cost dearly - one cost Gillingham massively yesterday.
Playing with Sbarra is like being a man light, may as well let one of the mascots have a trot round for an hour. Can't keep starting him.
Moly looking back to form, Crew steady and will get better, Teddy decent again, Sterry / Olowu / McGrath solid and decent, Bailey doing the hard yards. Great clean sheet and a win when we probably weren't the best team on the day. Street and Ennis look like they can add creativity and flair.
We've got the potential to kick on now and go on a run, it's tight at the top so the margin for error gets less as we get closer to the final third of the season.
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Agbinone, the Palace player on loan at Gillingham, looked to be the main threat to us yesterday.
He had very good close control and was very quick.
I was pleased when he was subbed off and they never really looked like scoring after he went.
Perhaps a bit of an insight into what we will have to face when the fourth round cup tie comes along.
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The Sbarra hate from people is a bit odd.
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The Sbarra hate from people is a bit odd.
He didn’t do much yesterday but I though he did what he did do quite well.
Our style just doesn’t suit central, creative players.
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Sbarra was tirelessly box to box yesterday, chasing down defenders and getting in their face, I thought it was his best display so far, we could do with more of that energy from them all.
Whilst we insist on playing the direct long ball game, midfield will always be chasing shadows.
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Sbarra was tirelessly box to box yesterday, chasing down defenders and getting in their face, I thought it was his best display so far, we could do with more of that energy from them all.
Whilst we insist on playing the direct long ball game, midfield will always be chasing shadows.
If he’s in the team for his energy then surely you’d be better playing Clifton.
I think our best chance of success for the rest of the season is a front 6 of Crew, Bailey, Clifton, Moly, Street & Ironside and trying to replicate what worked so well for us last year.
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Early on in the game, in a rare moment of relief from their pressure, Sbarra won the ball in a tackle, advanced towards the edge of the area, and might easily have gone through to score had he not been taken out by a cynical foul.
I thought he did well yesterday in a difficult game on a lousy pitch.
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Sbarra was tirelessly box to box yesterday, chasing down defenders and getting in their face, I thought it was his best display so far, we could do with more of that energy from them all.
Whilst we insist on playing the direct long ball game, midfield will always be chasing shadows.
If he’s in the team for his energy then surely you’d be better playing Clifton.
I think our best chance of success for the rest of the season is a front 6 of Crew, Bailey, Clifton, Moly, Street & Ironside and trying to replicate what worked so well for us last year.
Where is the creativity there? Can’t score if you don’t create.
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I think that's a bit harsh on those players Gaz even Ironside is quite good at building attacks and bringing other players into the game, in fact it is one of his strengths, and I thought we had brought Crew into the fold to do just that, and a bit harsh to judge him on one outing.
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Have just seen that Ironside had more touches in his 15 minutes on the pitch than Sharp did in his 75 minutes.
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Sbarra was tirelessly box to box yesterday, chasing down defenders and getting in their face, I thought it was his best display so far, we could do with more of that energy from them all.
Whilst we insist on playing the direct long ball game, midfield will always be chasing shadows.
If he’s in the team for his energy then surely you’d be better playing Clifton.
I think our best chance of success for the rest of the season is a front 6 of Crew, Bailey, Clifton, Moly, Street & Ironside and trying to replicate what worked so well for us last year.
That’d be my line up as well Nick there’s a blend of strength, skill and pace there. Close and Sbarra are small and tidy but that doesn’t suit this league. Starting like that means you can bring Hurst, Gibson and Sharp in to run at tired legs and players with yellows. That’s the winning formula there.
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I think that's a bit harsh on those players Gaz even Ironside is quite good at building attacks and bringing other players into the game, in fact it is one of his strengths, and I thought we had brought Crew into the fold to do just that, and a bit harsh to judge him on one outing.
Crew isn’t in the team to create. Ironside does his job well but doesn’t create goals. I’m not saying they are bad players but creativity, quality and hanging risk takers is key to scoring goals.
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Thought Sbarra was excellent yesterday
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Sbarra was tirelessly box to box yesterday, chasing down defenders and getting in their face, I thought it was his best display so far, we could do with more of that energy from them all.
Whilst we insist on playing the direct long ball game, midfield will always be chasing shadows.
If he’s in the team for his energy then surely you’d be better playing Clifton.
I think our best chance of success for the rest of the season is a front 6 of Crew, Bailey, Clifton, Moly, Street & Ironside and trying to replicate what worked so well for us last year.
Where is the creativity there? Can’t score if you don’t create.
can’t create if you don’t touch the ball either. Which Sbarra rarely does. He’s lost out there. Very poor player for me. We need better than that. I’d take Biggins back in a heart beat over him.
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Have watched the full match replay in segments over the last few days.
The defensive unit (in which I include Owen Bailey) was superb.
Given that Walsall play a back 3, I think we have the best centre back pairing in the league.
TSL is an intelligent keeper. Sterry very sharp.
Maxwell still a bit shaky defensively and in possession. Needs to improve or the better attacks will target him.
Crew looks a bit lightweight, but showed some really clever touches. Wasn’t really the game for him.
The attack has still got some question marks over it for me.
Sharp offered very little, he hasn’t played from the start as a lone striker with much effect since Bradford away in October now.
Sbarra was distinctly average. Haven’t seen enough of him to know if that’s normal or not.
Street was ok, but he cut a frustrated figure because he’s getting played out of position. Yes he’s quick and hard-working, but he was trying to do centre forward stuff from out wide.
Ironside was great when he came on and looked to link up very well with Ethan Ennis (who put in a terrific defensive header near the end). Those two look a good natural combination to me.
Molyneux back to his best. Put a great shift in too.