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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on February 15, 2025, 03:17:57 pm
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How many times does he try to take people on midway in our own half and lose the ball? The first goal is totally on him, I’d have hooked him at half time for that
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Doesn't help when you've got a midfield inside that never show for the ball
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He was at fault for the goal and almost cost us a couple minutes before doing the same thing. There is a player in there but my god he needs to wake up.
Same goes for Crew today as well. Far too pedestrian.
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He was the only one who looked like he could beat a man or make anything happen while he was on. Was unlucky with the goal that was ruled out.
Yes, it was sloppy for the goal but so often our players recurve the ball with zero options. He just tried to do too much in the wrong area. Moly did a very similar thing later in the game, these things happen. In the final third he is a spark of creativity we miss.
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McCann called him and Moly the best wingers in the league.
His contribution to our season has been an opening day goal, a goal at Colchester and a good 45minutes at Grimsby. A nice assist at Port vale.
Aside from that he’s easy on the eye, but it rarely leads to anything. He can’t tackle. He isn’t a fighter. He loses the ball in dangerous positions (today isn’t the first time).
3 year deal as well, really poor signing.
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He was the only one who looked like he could beat a man or make anything happen while he was on. Was unlucky with the goal that was ruled out.
Yes, it was sloppy for the goal but so often our players recurve the ball with zero options. He just tried to do too much in the wrong area. Moly did a very similar thing later in the game, these things happen. In the final third he is a spark of creativity we miss.
Difference is mate is that Moly puts himself about and puts a shift in.Gibson is a luxury we cannot afford to carry in this league
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He was the only one who looked like he could beat a man or make anything happen while he was on. Was unlucky with the goal that was ruled out.
Yes, it was sloppy for the goal but so often our players recurve the ball with zero options. He just tried to do too much in the wrong area. Moly did a very similar thing later in the game, these things happen. In the final third he is a spark of creativity we miss.
Difference is mate is that Moly puts himself about and puts a shift in.Gibson is a luxury we cannot afford to carry in this league
Gibson doesn’t offer as much out of possession than others but we knew that when we signed him. Can’t sign a player like that then complain when he’s not the best defensively! He’s been the same all of his career!!
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He was the only one who looked like he could beat a man or make anything happen while he was on. Was unlucky with the goal that was ruled out.
Yes, it was sloppy for the goal but so often our players recurve the ball with zero options. He just tried to do too much in the wrong area. Moly did a very similar thing later in the game, these things happen. In the final third he is a spark of creativity we miss.
Difference is mate is that Moly puts himself about and puts a shift in.Gibson is a luxury we cannot afford to carry in this league
Gibson doesn’t offer as much out of possession than others but we knew that when we signed him. Can’t sign a player like that then complain when he’s not the best defensively! He’s been the same all of his career!!
So surely we can expect more of what he is supposedly good at?
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What about Ironside, we could all see he was getting bossed by their centre half ! The obvious sub at half time if not before was get Street on ! Grant is either out of his depth or tactically arrogant ! ATM I can’t work out which, thoughts ?
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Heart as big as a pea!
End of.
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He was the only one who looked like he could beat a man or make anything happen while he was on. Was unlucky with the goal that was ruled out.
Yes, it was sloppy for the goal but so often our players recurve the ball with zero options. He just tried to do too much in the wrong area. Moly did a very similar thing later in the game, these things happen. In the final third he is a spark of creativity we miss.
Difference is mate is that Moly puts himself about and puts a shift in.Gibson is a luxury we cannot afford to carry in this league
Gibson doesn’t offer as much out of possession than others but we knew that when we signed him. Can’t sign a player like that then complain when he’s not the best defensively! He’s been the same all of his career!!
So surely we can expect more of what he is supposedly good at?
He was on the end of the disallowed goal today. A better timed run/ball and it was a goal for him. Pretty fine margins between contributing and not.
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He was the only one who looked like he could beat a man or make anything happen while he was on. Was unlucky with the goal that was ruled out.
Yes, it was sloppy for the goal but so often our players recurve the ball with zero options. He just tried to do too much in the wrong area. Moly did a very similar thing later in the game, these things happen. In the final third he is a spark of creativity we miss.
Difference is mate is that Moly puts himself about and puts a shift in.Gibson is a luxury we cannot afford to carry in this league
Gibson doesn’t offer as much out of possession than others but we knew that when we signed him. Can’t sign a player like that then complain when he’s not the best defensively! He’s been the same all of his career!!
Probably shouldnt have signed him then if he is not able capable or willing to offer more. The way we play under Grant everyone needs to put a shift in.
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I'm still waiting for the Harry Clifton thread, but because he actually doesn't do anything to actually even have the chance to make a mistake he goes under the radar. Literally the 2 best things about him is his chant 2 times a season v Grimsby and he can run. Even off the ball he's usually late. Worst signing of the lot for me and I cannot believe we managed to replace Biggins with someone worse. Your could have picked 100 other players and they'd have been an upgrade on Biggins what we could afford
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How many times does he try to take people on midway in our own half and lose the ball? The first goal is totally on him, I’d have hooked him at half time for that
I can’t remember many games where he’s created problems for defences . Looses the ball too often and his passes seldom reach their intended target .
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Gibson isn’t great is he.
Never really beats a man, never really scores, never really creates anything.
Street looked better than him today, as did Ennis last week
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He was the only one who looked like he could beat a man or make anything happen while he was on. Was unlucky with the goal that was ruled out.
Yes, it was sloppy for the goal but so often our players recurve the ball with zero options. He just tried to do too much in the wrong area. Moly did a very similar thing later in the game, these things happen. In the final third he is a spark of creativity we miss.
The striker still had a lot to do even after Gibson gave it away, Olowu got done a bit too easily but it was a good goal by a big powerful lad. Gibson has quality it's evident, we just don't play to his strengths.
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What are his strengths? I imagine they’re similar to molyneux?
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What are his strengths? I imagine they’re similar to molyneux?
Well according to GM him & Molly are the best two wingers in the league, (his words not mine! )so you'd think we'd want to get the ball forward early to either him or Molly into wide areas and let them have a go at either full back 1 on 1 for starters wouldn't you?!
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Im still convinced theres a player in there with Gibson. Lets not forget some of us wrote Molz off last season and Olowu. He scored 9 goals in league 1 last season in a shocking Carlisle side. Yes he lost possession for the goal, but the whole team lost possession on many an occasion. It was just unfortunate for Gibson. Dont blame him for todays defeat, Only Street came away with any credit today.
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Gibson needs to mature and fast.
He probably is used to being the best player, from youth level all the way to a poor Carlisle team.
I think he's still playing like that, because he's never had to give 100% to be on top.
He's got to realise he needs to up his game, and start putting in 100% effort. Or his career will fizzle, and a free transfer to frickley will be on the cards.
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I have said many times on here, that he is very disappointing. Yeah I blamed in for the goal he lost the ball too easily when he had other options.
The problem his that when he looses the ball he never puts much effort to try and win the ball.
Also when I started to criticise him earlier in the season I specially watched him off the ball, and he is terrible just lazy waiting for the ball to come to him.
So anyone who thinks he offers anything, watch him of the ball the next time he plays!
I hate to single out any player, but I expected more from him.
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He lost the ball and that wasn't great. Olowu got done by their big lad though, which was the only sniff he had from him all game. The distribution from Olowu was diabolical though for much of the game.
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The problem was after Gibson lost it Olowu was wrong footed which allowed their No9 to get away
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He lost the ball and that wasn't great. Olowu got done by their big lad though, which was the only sniff he had from him all game. The distribution from Olowu was diabolical though for much of the game.
Joe made a bad passes, but Christ he was nowhere near diabolical.
Too many statements like that and we will have no chance of keeping him.
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He lost the ball and that wasn't great. Olowu got done by their big lad though, which was the only sniff he had from him all game. The distribution from Olowu was diabolical though for much of the game.
Joe made a bad passes, but Christ he was nowhere near diabolical.
Too many statements like that and we will have no chance of keeping him.
Olowu has been this season but he was poor today and poor at Chesterfield. Pepple bullied him last week.
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He lacks desire I'm afraid, but then again he wasn't the only one today.
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Doesn't help when you've got a midfield inside that never show for the ball
agree with this, midfield is still a massive issue for me despite the loans coming in
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Not his best, or anyone else's. Not helped when him & Molyneux are fed balls with little to no support around them.
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I'm still waiting for the Harry Clifton thread, but because he actually doesn't do anything to actually even have the chance to make a mistake he goes under the radar. Literally the 2 best things about him is his chant 2 times a season v Grimsby and he can run. Even off the ball he's usually late. Worst signing of the lot for me and I cannot believe we managed to replace Biggins with someone worse. Your could have picked 100 other players and they'd have been an upgrade on Biggins what we could afford
I would take Biggins back in a heartbeat right now.
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I think Molly should be behind a front 1 or 2 , we have wingers and wing backs that can play too and cross. I don't think others are good enough to play 10 including Clifton who was yet again well off the mark.
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You know it would be nice to see GM finally decide who his first choice players are, build a game plan for the team to play to(one that doesn't changer every game) and go out and give his first choice team time to gel by playing together and refining a style of play.
If we are to spend the rest of the season tinkering with our side to nullify the opposition at the expense of playing to our strengths and letting them worry about us i think many fans are ready to explode!!
We are never able to build an attacking style and a formation to play because it changes every game to suite every change.
Frustrating is just not quite powerful enough a word!
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I get that and feel that too. Yet I think that could be any supporter of any football club.
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What are his strengths? I imagine they’re similar to molyneux?
Well according to GM him & Molly are the best two wingers in the league, (his words not mine! )so you'd think we'd want to get the ball forward early to either him or Molly into wide areas and let them have a go at either full back 1 on 1 for starters wouldn't you?!
Yes!
So it seems to be working for one player but not the other. Therefore it’s obviously not down to the manager not playing to Gibson’s strengths
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Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example
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Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example
You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing
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Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example
You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing
Why's he signed Gibbson then and told him he's the best left winger in the league?
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Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example
You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing
Why's he signed Gibbson then and told him he's the best left winger in the league?
Its just another man management tactic. If he truly was the best winger he would play every single game. Like Moly does.
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Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example
You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing
Why's he signed Gibbson then and told him he's the best left winger in the league?
Its just another man management tactic. If he truly was the best winger he would play every single game. Like Moly does.
Agreed but don't come out and say it publicly keep it in house. Just making himself look stupid with these comments
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I can understand why, if you accept the proposition, you blame the player, but recruitment is about selecting the right players followed by coaching, motivation and management to develop them and integrate them into a team strategy.
If, in some peoples’ views he has not improved, perhaps we should question why such development has not been successful either.
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Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example
You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing
Why's he signed Gibbson then and told him he's the best left winger in the league?
He’s said that before about other young forwards especially wingers but they are not. He has good skills but try’s to beat to many players he believes in the hype that Grant said about him.
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Whoever thought he's a good winger I'll never know no pace and walks around like he can't be arsed
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Whoever thought he's a good winger I'll never know no pace and walks around like he can't be arsed
It was McCann who took this view.
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What are his strengths? I imagine they’re similar to molyneux?
Well according to GM him & Molly are the best two wingers in the league, (his words not mine! )so you'd think we'd want to get the ball forward early to either him or Molly into wide areas and let them have a go at either full back 1 on 1 for starters wouldn't you?!
Prime example there yesterday of playing to his strengths and letting him have a go 1 on 1. Yes he can be frustrating at times I understand this but hopefully he can keep improving.
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Gibson is the best left winger on his day. Technically very good on the ball.
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To score goals you need a certain level of creativity in the team. Gibson offers that. He’s not the best off the ball but if he doesn’t play we are likely to create less.
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There's certainly a player in Gibson, its just been very unfortunate for us that we have struggled to get him firing, The buildup to the first goal yesterday demonstrates what can be achieved but at the same time all the rest of his crosses and passes struggle to hit the mark, it looked like nothing would go for him prior to and after the goal.
Not sure if its a confidence or attitude thing but we've had him all season and it only comes in fits and starts, some decent man management required to get to the bottom of this.
There's a player in there, desperate to be unleashed.
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If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
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If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
Broadbent was very good yesterday, was it just me or did he seem 1/2 a yard quicker as well?!
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If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
Broadbent was very good yesterday, was it just me or did he seem 1/2 a yard quicker as well?!
Amazing what some game time can give you.
Continuity and building some understanding are others.
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Broadbent has looked good all season in my opinion - been unlucky to be in and out of the team.
Gibson very good on his day just need to make sure the day is more often
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If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
Broadbent was very good yesterday, was it just me or did he seem 1/2 a yard quicker as well?!
Amazing what some game time can give you.
Continuity and building some understanding are others.
Broadbent has had decent games but he’s just massively inconsistent I think. Really no help being good once every three games, especially when you play in that position.
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If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
Broadbent was very good yesterday, was it just me or did he seem 1/2 a yard quicker as well?!
Amazing what some game time can give you.
Continuity and building some understanding are others.
Broadbent has had decent games but he’s just massively inconsistent I think. Really no help being good once every three games, especially when you play in that position.
Welcome to fourth tier football.
I'm, looking at our squad list and weighing up what alternatives we currently have.
I maybe some time!
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He made a good pass for the first goal, but then missed an absolute sitter.
Yes as others have said, very good on his day, but we have not seen many days.
Off the ball, he’s terrible with very low work rate, and his body language his shocking.
We need players to give everything, so on performances so far, would prefer someone else in starting lineup.
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He made a good pass for the first goal, but then missed an absolute sitter.
Yes as others have said, very good on his day, but we have not seen many days.
Off the ball, he’s terrible with very low work rate, and his body language his shocking.
We need players to give everything, so on performances so far, would prefer someone else in starting lineup.
Think he gets harshly judged , granted his work rate isn't as good as Molly's but Molly is top drawer at what he does out of possession. Gibson reminds me a bit of Chris Waddle in the respect he sometimes looks lazy or disinterested but he does his fair share for me.
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Just done a comparison on Gibson and Molys defensive contributions this season. You’d be surprised how similar they are.
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If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
I think you're right there. The more I think about this, I think McCann will set up to hit hard early in each game, going all out attack to hopefully get one or two up and then defend for our lives using mesters tactics to see the game through.
If only it were that simple but I think that front three of Gibson, Street and Moly seem to be the preferred set up. He's maybe made his mind up that Clifton is the best choice for the more advanced midfield berth along with Bailey making making late runs.
Broadbent got the nod over Crew which is fair, if he thinks about opponents being more physical than a passing team.
Maybe after that, content to soak up pressure and go long to catch teams on the break.
It's probably no coincidence the last two games have followed this pattern.
I'm sure we would love to see Crew on the pitch helping us to play more on the deck and play through the lines. That may come at some point but maybe Broadbent has a more physical edge.
It's easy to look at Broadbent similar to Olowu was, when we say he's good but he's got a mistake in him. Well, maybe some players can get away with it and some can't
Let's hope both Gibson and Broadbent finish the season strong.
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Gibbo now showing that he can become a valuable player for us.
I thought that last night and in the two previous matches he has got his confidence back and some of his attacking skills are coming through.
He just needs a goal and I reckon he will go on a bit of a scoring spree.
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He’s the only one that can beat a man with a bit of skill and pace. We need to get the ball to him more in games like last night. He was really good again.
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Not a chance Gaz, I know you’re not keen on Molly but blimey, Moly has just as much if not more pace and just as much skill. I do like Jordan too by the way.
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He's taking some attention & pressure off of Molyneux when he's on form. Which is why I think we're seeing the best of Molyneux. The capability of using both wings is key.
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
Theres no pleasing some people … he is the clubs top scorer and assists . He is playing the best he’s ever played anywhere . He like most players needs support to get the best out of him . Molly gets kicked off the pitch most games and just gets on with it . We need more like him…
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Mols regularly beats his man, no question about it.
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Mols regularly beats his man, no question about it.
We will have to agree to disagree on that one. ;)
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He or any good wide player, doesn't necessarily have to beat their man, but make sufficient room to cross or shoot. How many times did we see Beckam outpacing a defender? One of the best deliveries in world football.
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You can’t disagree it’s just a fact!
Gibson was very good last night but he’s definitely not better than molly at beating a man or have more pace.
Molly has been our best player this season by an absolute country mile
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
Typical daft comment
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You can’t disagree it’s just a fact!
Gibson was very good last night but he’s definitely not better than molly at beating a man or have more pace.
Molly has been our best player this season by an absolute country mile
Gibson is quicker than Moly. He’s also better at creating space/ using a trick to beat a man in tight situations.
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Gibson would be okay where McCann is playing Clifton. Closest player to Coppinger we've ever had in terms of having his back to their goal and then being able to move forward with it.
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As a small aside and a note to any black bank singers who are on here, when the Jordan Gibson song is sung, please update as we go along and change the “Grimsby” bit to fit whoever we are playing.
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
What nonsense!
Mols leaves his opponent for dead time and time again.
And he gets plenty of decent crosses in.
I cannot believe why he gets criticism from some on here.
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LM is by far our best player.
I'm not saying Gibson doesn't have the potential to be better. Today LM is our best player.
Hopefully Gibson does get better than LM because we would have 2 crazy forward players / wingers for our level.
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The Gibson ball to Molly for our third goal was as good as you will see in any division.
Calm and measured.
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Maybe I didn't make my point simple enough for some people.
Molyneux is very good at hitting the ball past the defender and taking his opponent on for speed. However, he has only six assists to his name, so maybe his crossing could be better.
Trying to take a player on and beat him at close quarters. He very rarely comes away with the ball.
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The Gibson ball to Molly for our third goal was as good as you will see in any division.
Calm and measured.
So quote me how many times he does it
I can do that once a season. I'm being sarcastic, but Molly is different class on all stats based on how GM wants wingers to play.
If either or is easy on the eye for you personally fair enough but it's about value for DRFC. Gibson wasn't picked for quite a while, why don't you think that was? He seems to have come back better. Hopefully he does show his potential. Molly is still miles better at the moment.
Maybe the last 12 games Gibson can prove not, looking forward to it.
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Maybe I didn't make my point simple enough for some people.
Molyneux is very good at hitting the ball past the defender and taking his opponent on for speed. However, he has only six assists to his name, so maybe his crossing could be better.
Trying to take a player on and beat him at close quarters. He very rarely comes away with the ball.
Molyneux is joint 3rd in the league for “big chances created”.
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Maybe I didn't make my point simple enough for some people.
Molyneux is very good at hitting the ball past the defender and taking his opponent on for speed. However, he has only six assists to his name, so maybe his crossing could be better.
Trying to take a player on and beat him at close quarters. He very rarely comes away with the ball.
Molyneux is joint 3rd in the league for “big chances created”.
Love Moly and I know you’re not making the comparison here but I bet that Gibson has a better big chances created per 90 minutes played.
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Gibson would be okay where McCann is playing Clifton. Closest player to Coppinger we've ever had in terms of having his back to their goal and then being able to move forward with it.
As I have said before, I have seen a stat somewhere which showed that Gibson playing in the 10 role in Div 1 was the best in the division for creating big chances. McCann should try him in that role & get Hurst back to play on the wing.
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Gibson and Mols gave both his the woodwork 4 times this season. As a team I think it’s 17 times in total. Most of any team in the EFL.
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You can’t disagree it’s just a fact!
Gibson was very good last night but he’s definitely not better than molly at beating a man or have more pace.
Molly has been our best player this season by an absolute country mile
Gibson is quicker than Moly. He’s also better at creating space/ using a trick to beat a man in tight situations.
I often myself Agreeing with you gaz but on this occasion I’m in complete disagreement. Molyneux beats his man much more frequently than Gibson does. Molyneux also looks quicker to me.
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I think what we’re really saying is that Moly & Gibson should be nailed on starters as our two wide men.
End of.
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You can’t disagree it’s just a fact!
Gibson was very good last night but he’s definitely not better than molly at beating a man or have more pace.
Molly has been our best player this season by an absolute country mile
Gibson is quicker than Moly. He’s also better at creating space/ using a trick to beat a man in tight situations.
I often myself Agreeing with you gaz but on this occasion I’m in complete disagreement. Molyneux beats his man much more frequently than Gibson does. Molyneux also looks quicker to me.
You are allowed to be wrong mate, that’s fine. Only BST not allowed to me wrong on here! (That’s a joke btw!)
Seriously though, Gibsons dribbling and dribble success are on another level to Moly. Gibson would be 1/20 in a 50 yard race as well.
Give Moly a bit of space and hell chop inside and get a ball in. Don’t give him space he really struggles to get out of tight areas. His feet aren’t that quick and he doesn’t really have a trick.
Spent loads of time looking at both players this season. Molyneux’s end product has been sensational. If he gets a chance to get a cross in it’s generally a good one, if he gets the chance to shoot it’s generally a testing one. Aside from that his defending numbers aren’t great for someone that works as hard as he does. His dribbling and passing stats not great either.
I’d be interested seeing him play up front in a two as a bit of a free man. Think that could be a really good position for him.
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Gibson and Mols gave both his the woodwork 4 times this season. As a team I think it’s 17 times in total. Most of any team in the EFL.
And how many times have they each put it inside the woodwork without the keeper stopping it?
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You can’t disagree it’s just a fact!
Gibson was very good last night but he’s definitely not better than molly at beating a man or have more pace.
Molly has been our best player this season by an absolute country mile
Gibson is quicker than Moly. He’s also better at creating space/ using a trick to beat a man in tight situations.
I often myself Agreeing with you gaz but on this occasion I’m in complete disagreement. Molyneux beats his man much more frequently than Gibson does. Molyneux also looks quicker to me.
You are allowed to be wrong mate, that’s fine. Only BST not allowed to me wrong on here! (That’s a joke btw!)
Seriously though, Gibsons dribbling and dribble success are on another level to Moly. Gibson would be 1/20 in a 50 yard race as well.
Give Moly a bit of space and hell chop inside and get a ball in. Don’t give him space he really struggles to get out of tight areas. His feet aren’t that quick and he doesn’t really have a trick.
Spent loads of time looking at both players this season. Molyneux’s end product has been sensational. If he gets a chance to get a cross in it’s generally a good one, if he gets the chance to shoot it’s generally a testing one. Aside from that his defending numbers aren’t great for someone that works as hard as he does. His dribbling and passing stats not great either.
I’d be interested seeing him play up front in a two as a bit of a free man. Think that could be a really good position for him.
A good assessment IMO
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You can’t disagree it’s just a fact!
Gibson was very good last night but he’s definitely not better than molly at beating a man or have more pace.
Molly has been our best player this season by an absolute country mile
Gibson is quicker than Moly. He’s also better at creating space/ using a trick to beat a man in tight situations.
I often myself Agreeing with you gaz but on this occasion I’m in complete disagreement. Molyneux beats his man much more frequently than Gibson does. Molyneux also looks quicker to me.
You are allowed to be wrong mate, that’s fine. Only BST not allowed to me wrong on here! (That’s a joke btw!)
Seriously though, Gibsons dribbling and dribble success are on another level to Moly. Gibson would be 1/20 in a 50 yard race as well.
Give Moly a bit of space and hell chop inside and get a ball in. Don’t give him space he really struggles to get out of tight areas. His feet aren’t that quick and he doesn’t really have a trick.
Spent loads of time looking at both players this season. Molyneux’s end product has been sensational. If he gets a chance to get a cross in it’s generally a good one, if he gets the chance to shoot it’s generally a testing one. Aside from that his defending numbers aren’t great for someone that works as hard as he does. His dribbling and passing stats not great either.
I’d be interested seeing him play up front in a two as a bit of a free man. Think that could be a really good position for him.
I’ve never understood why if McCann goes 3-5-2 he sticks Molyneux at wing-back. Wasted time trying to play Sharp off Ironside earlier on in the season when Moly was right there.
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Gibsons shooting is awful, much rather have hurst
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Gibsons shooting is awful, much rather have hurst
Hurst no goals or assists for Queen’s Park in 6 games…
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Gibson is now the scapegoat
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And rightly so. Think I saw one contribution from him all game worthy of the name.
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People were praising him with his ball last week. Senior had a shot in the first half that what worse than gibbons. ???
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Senior isn't a primary striker.
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People were praising him with his ball last week. Senior had a shot in the first half that what worse than gibbons. ???
He needs to stop monkeying around in the area.
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Gibson isn’t a primary striker as you put it either. Honestly. We didn’t win. Let’s say we are crap unless we win
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Be careful what you put Nudga. Could be seen as something else
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It’s been clear this season to anyone with a functional set of eyes, that he has very little end product.
The real issue is not replacing him properly in January.
I really do worry it’s going to cost us.
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Gibson isn’t a primary striker as you put it either. Honestly. We didn’t win. Let’s say we are crap unless we win
What was Gibson signed for if not to create and score goals? and are you saying we're crap unless we win cos' I haven't said it.
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Imagine this. And yes it could happen. Gibson scores the the goal that gets us promoted. Long shot but could happen. Or anyone of our players does that. Frustrating when things don’t work. These players don’t go out and think, let’s annoy the fans
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Hope our main defenders are back soon as senior and Nixon leave a lot to be desired.with regards to Gibson plays some good football but can’t produce the end product when in a good position to score. Feel sorry for the guy as he puts the effort in.
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Gibson has been great of late, wasn’t great today. He always gets into very good positions to score. I’d rather that than someone who doesn’t have the intelligence to do that.
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Could and should have had at least two goals today. There’s a good player there - as he admits himself, he’s working on the mental side of his game. Decision making is so important
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Gibson has been great of late, wasn’t great today. He always gets into very good positions to score. I’d rather that than someone who doesn’t have the intelligence to do that.
He’s been better than he had been, I wouldn’t say he’s been great.
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We are continuing to make it very hard for ourselves and frankly struggle against decent sides. Thankfully a lot of other results went our way but we need soon to start stringing wins together once again. As it stands we don’t determine our own fate.
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Gibson has been great of late, wasn’t great today. He always gets into very good positions to score. I’d rather that than someone who doesn’t have the intelligence to do that.
He’s been better than he had been, I wouldn’t say he’s been great.
I think his best asset for us is the way he retains possession when we attack. It makes a difference to how we play.
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He needs to put his foot through some of these chances and take them quicker.
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Be careful what you put Nudga. Could be seen as something else
Only by a racist or someone with a far left leaning agenda.
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Gibson has been great of late, wasn’t great today. He always gets into very good positions to score. I’d rather that than someone who doesn’t have the intelligence to do that.
He’s been better than he had been, I wouldn’t say he’s been great.
I think his best asset for us is the way he retains possession when we attack. It makes a difference to how we play.
As one of the stronger sides in the league, with good investment made…I don’t think it’s too much to ask our attacking left sided player can retain possession and score a few more goals.
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We've got midfielders that can't take a ball to feet and retain possession unless an opposition player is over 10 yards away from them
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He should be sent packing, not worth the very little he brings. Only problem is there is no one else to bring in, Dennis is no better either.
In the last 7 days he’s had probably 7/8 chances, good ones at that and scored zero.
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We've got midfielders that can't take a ball to feet and retain possession unless an opposition player is over 10 yards away from them
Especially when Clifton plays. Gibson acts more like a conventional no10 from wide.
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We've got midfielders that can't take a ball to feet and retain possession unless an opposition player is over 10 yards away from them
Especially when Clifton plays. Gibson acts more like a conventional no10 from wide.
Don’t you think Gibson should play no10? He did in his last season in L2 with Carlisle and had some of the best creative stats in the league.
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Gibson is a passenger, off the ball he is shocking. Again today the ball was heading to wards the east touchline, he was in front of the Swindon player who then run past Gibson to gain the ball, which eventually ended up with them scoring.
God only knows why he getting game time over others.
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Just seen that chance he messed up when through on goal.
Wow, absolutely atrocious, and smacks of someone with zero confidence.
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He had a good game on the whole. People need to lay off him a bit. It didn't fall for him and he snatched a chance aswell but he got in good positions and played some good passes too. Scapegoat is very much the word.
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Reaction and posts on social media are OTT. Glad one has been removed I've seen.
Reality is if he took all his chances with the skill he's got he'd be playing top end league 1 every week for someone
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The forward players were fine today. It was defensively we let it slip.
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He had a good game on the whole. People need to lay off him a bit. It didn't fall for him and he snatched a chance aswell but he got in good positions and played some good passes too. Scapegoat is very much the word.
He didn’t have a good game at all, he should have been brought off instead of street.
The guy has had two good games, first game at home and away at Grimsby and that’s your lot from him.
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The forward players were fine today. It was defensively we let it slip.
Was always going to be iffy with the whole back line changed, I thought Tom was decent, Bailey did ok but the two Full backs were not very good
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He had a good game on the whole. People need to lay off him a bit. It didn't fall for him and he snatched a chance aswell but he got in good positions and played some good passes too. Scapegoat is very much the word.
He didn’t have a good game at all, he should have been brought off instead of street.
The guy has had two good games, first game at home and away at Grimsby and that’s your lot from him.
He’s our best assist maker for time spent on the pitch.
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Hopefully the reaction from fans is the high expectations of him and others get a pass because actually they're just steady Eddies.
Not a peep about Sharp's sitter on Tuesday on social media. Not a peep on his lack of contribution this season. Our front 3 as mentioned above were fine. Agree Street shouldn't have come off going for the winner. He always looks like scoring a few a game too.
I just hope McCann doesn't start messing around and changing the front 3 every week. These are our best 3 for sure.
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It's unfortunate that Gibsons two gilt edged chances today are the epitome of the finishing that's plagued us all season.
Our conversation rate of chances from 10 to 15 yards out must be quite poor yet, we seem to get disproportionately punished for mistakes at the other end sometimes with mis hit shots going in or by deflection or both.
Coupled with the two gilt edged chances Gibson had last week, it's easy to get frustrated with him and perhaps what doesn't help his cause is he seems to be so emotionless. His general play has been better of late, covering back when necessary and getting into some good positions to score, whereas others might not. It's a conundrum for the manager to make the right call with him to persevere or drop him. No doubt he's a great finisher in training. Maybe hypnotherapy is the answer?? Ha ha.
That all said, the goals we concede at critical times has come back to haunt us just after half time, just when we thought we'd banished that curse last week. Maybe that's where the therapy is most needed.
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Having seen more angles of the Gibson 1 on 1 miss. He kicks the defenders foot before making contact with the ball hence the shocking contact.
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
Just wondering if you saw today’s game?
And in particular the number of times Moly beat his man?
And the cross he put in for SBarra’s goal?
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Back to Gibson, I'm sorry but he's simply not good enough. He could and should have won us the game today but his finishing is nothing short of pathetic! He gets himself into great positions but hasn't got the confidence to impact the game, it's so frustrating!Not only that his laziness was again evident, both Swindon goals came from our left side, the game bypassed him on numerous occasions.
I've had enough of him, needs dropping.
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Confidence is the right word, it’s just not working for him, but as we have seen with so many before, he maybe one who needs a year to settle. Molly was one o& those, look at Broadbent who is now running games almost by himself.
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Moly, Olowu, Braoadbent. All players who have had ups and downs and/or lacked confidence. And look at them now.
I would stick with Gibson, he’s got quality and makes opponents nervous. If he manages to net a couple of times I think he’ll improve loads.
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
Just wondering if you saw today’s game?
And in particular the number of times Moly beat his man?
And the cross he put in for SBarra’s goal?
Yes I thought he had a very good game. I'm pleased he took my advice and beat their defenders by using his speed and not trying to take them on close in. ;)
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
Just wondering if you saw today’s game?
And in particular the number of times Moly beat his man?
And the cross he put in for SBarra’s goal?
Moly did well for the goal. Must admit I smiled after it thinking about the topic of conversation this week. Sentiment still stands though. His strength isn’t wriggling out of tight areas. Give him space and he’ll deliver.
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look at Broadbent who is now running games almost by himself.
Not convinced with Broadbent, ok he's improved but still not good enough for the league above, nowhere near in the same bracket as Stock, Wellens etc...
Gives the ball away in dangerous areas too many times, not strong enough in the tackle, passing has improved but could still be better.
Jury's out still!
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
Just wondering if you saw today’s game?
And in particular the number of times Moly beat his man?
And the cross he put in for SBarra’s goal?
I can’t see that anyone watching the game can make these comments.
Also it’s very rare that moly is one on one (only when a quick through ball is made) generally their are 2 or 3 players on him.
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
Just wondering if you saw today’s game?
And in particular the number of times Moly beat his man?
And the cross he put in for SBarra’s goal?
I can’t see that anyone watching the game can make these comments.
Also it’s very rare that moly is one on one (only when a quick through ball is made) generally their are 2 or 3 players on him.
That is rubbish. He beat players yesterday with ease when he took players on using his speed. It it is when he tries to dribble around players he struggles.
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Molyneux couldn't beat an egg. He needs to concentrate on shooting more and getting decent crosses in.
Is this a serious comment or just taking the mick? Behave yourself!