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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on March 01, 2025, 09:30:44 pm
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After picking up nine points in the last three games we face up to what looks like a far stiffer test in a team that themselves are in good form winning four drawing one and only losing one of their last six games in Bromley.
Reading the thoughts of the AFC Wimbledon supporters comments on Bromley's win there today is their observations of what a big side they are, and also how well drilled defensively they are.
Today however to counter that we played some of our best football in a while, looked dangerous going forward and strong in midfield with Sterry and Olowu both outstanding at the back, and a keeper that looked in control of his area, and Maxwell showing his ability to get forward a good team performance, and a strong bench looking on.
Now on to a stiffer test both physically and mentally against a team that fancy their chances of being in the mix at the end of the season being currently on the shirt tails of the play off places and need the points to keep up pressure as much as we do.
Play well and we have every chance of getting a result, Street has brought some pace up front and is in good form running past and getting goal side of defenders and makes it uncomfortable for defenders,
So, another quick turn around to this next game, and getting a result will be difficult but not beyond us, what do you think? Lots to discuss, a long journey for a mid week game, hopefully Broadbent and Bailey can get a grip of midfield again Broadbent like Olowu seeming to get better every game, and Street who is bagging the goals carries on doing just that.
Lots to discuss, lots of things to look forward to as the season reaches the part of the season when form and a little luck sorts the final positions out, Please have your say.
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They are not great at home. In fact, fifth worst in League Two. They have though won two of their last three home games and the other one was a 1-0 loss to in form Bradford City to an 82nd minute goal. Think this could be tough.
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Watched their game v Bradford & they let them have the ball while trying to catch them on the break or lumping it to Cheek to play off him. They did a job on us at home, big, physical, & organised. If we are strong defensively & keep the ball on the floor going forward we can win this. Not a game for lumping it forward, food & drink for their defenders. Also saw their game v Salford recently & they looked poor fitness wise late on, maybe our bench could be crucial in this one.
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Every game is going to be tough IMHO. But confidence will be high after today too..
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Notice today how little fannying around at the back thete was? TSL was launching it from goal kicks as well as from his hands
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Such a shame about the pitiful away allocation. I suspect there are many more that wanted to go than those that have tickets.
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Notice today how little fannying around at the back thete was? TSL was launching it from goal kicks as well as from his hands
I said the same thing today Raven.
In fact we have been going more direct over the past few games haven’t we and are creating far more scoring chances.
It’s better to watch of course and puts opposition defences under more pressure.
With Street up front, along with Mols and a more confident Gibson, we are getting behind defences more often.
Street is the key though and his extra pace is more important to the direct way we are playing.
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They beat Wimbledon away yesterday, so no mugs, will be a tough game, but games like these we have to win if we want automatic promotion.
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Notice today how little fannying around at the back thete was? TSL was launching it from goal kicks as well as from his hands
I said the same thing today Raven.
In fact we have been going more direct over the past few games haven’t we and are creating far more scoring chances.
It’s better to watch of course and puts opposition defences under more pressure.
With Street up front, along with Mols and a more confident Gibson, we are getting behind defences more often.
Street is the key though and his extra pace is more important to the direct way we are playing.
Yesterday we had 26 shots on goal from less than 50% possession
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Notice today how little fannying around at the back thete was? TSL was launching it from goal kicks as well as from his hands
I said the same thing today Raven.
In fact we have been going more direct over the past few games haven’t we and are creating far more scoring chances.
It’s better to watch of course and puts opposition defences under more pressure.
With Street up front, along with Mols and a more confident Gibson, we are getting behind defences more often.
Street is the key though and his extra pace is more important to the direct way we are playing.
Yesterday we had 26 shots on goal from less than 50% possession
I'm sure I read that Forest have pretty low possession and concentrate on getting the ball forward at the earliest possible opportunity; denying defences the opportunity to get set.
Yesterday we did seem to have a good mix of passing and direct.
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Such a shame about the pitiful away allocation. I suspect there are many more that wanted to go than those that have tickets.
I fancied the trip too and was also surprised that there were all the ticket allocation was taken up, but I found out that the low allocation is because it’s a restricted capacity because of ongoing stand improvements.
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Dont let yesterdays possesion stat kid you. They were quite happy playing around at the back, even though they were 2-0 down at the time. They were simply keeping the ball, trying to keep the score down as they were being outclassed.
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Looking forward to this one added bonus of a new ground
Wouldn’t be surprised if Anderson is back in the team
With Street up front we need to turn Webster around he was never the quickest so we can take the game to them
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Talking of a Land of the Giants Bromley Team
They sold one giant forward to desperate saddle slipping Walsall and then bought Kabumba (now 32 ) from Barnet who hasn't even started a match.
An American recently bought a minority stake so don't expect a relegation scrap next year - that's left for Newport
The question is can we Lord it over Byron Webster we as we know he has had a checkered career
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Webster
I have three horrific memories of him come on very very late in the Championship and of course we conceded very very late on -- one ot two of you even said he wasn't that bad
I expect Anderson to start
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They've got Carl Jenkinson right back who had spells in Arsenal and West Hams prem squads. He's decent but seemed to lose his way and then ended up in Australia before coming back to Bromley. Kept an eye on him as he was a mate of one of my lads when we were in North East London.
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We need to avoid giving away needless free kicks around the box and limit the corners. They are a big side, hitting the long ball will not be as effective. Quick passing around them will be the order of the day
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They've got Carl Jenkinson right back who had spells in Arsenal and West Hams prem squads. He's decent but seemed to lose his way and then ended up in Australia before coming back to Bromley. Kept an eye on him as he was a mate of one of my lads when we were in North East London.
He went off injured late on against AFC - so may not be playing...
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A confident and in form Rovers are going to be a tough challenge for Bromley, and I suspect too much for them, 0 - 2 tomorrow. Onwards and upwards.
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https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/bromley/preview/preview-bromley-vs-doncaster-prediction-team-news-lineups_566909.html
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I reckon Street could have a field day in this game.
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Both wingers flying, everything street touches turns to gold, this has got to be considered a winnable game...
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If you look at the other fixtures tonight, a lot of our rivals have relatively easy games, making it important that we get at least a point.
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Walsall have dropped quite a few points in what some would call relatively easy games recently.
But you’re not wrong, points for us are the most important thing..
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Walsall have dropped quite a few points in what some would call relatively easy games recently.
But you’re not wrong, points for us are the most important thing..
Hughes has really tightened Carlisle up. 3 consecutive clean sheets and Walsall need counter attacks to score.
I’m going to back 0-0 at 8/1 in that one.
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Sarcevic went off for Bradford with possible hamstring problems. Pattison is also out injured so Bradford City could well be missing two of their engine room who also score a goal or two.
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Where’s BB’s dead vivid dream prediction thread.??
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Where’s BB’s dead vivid dream prediction thread.??
He must have had a nightmare
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Same starting XI and squad today. More welcome consistency.
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Agree we have the hardest fixture
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Agree we have the hardest fixture
some of us think Walsall have -- you could get evens about them for the title earlier today
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Getting bullied and hassled and another red cards look likely as Ref Bobby Madley gone yellow card daft ..
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Had some chances, should at least be level.
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Unbelievable we are losing this game.
Still confident.
Feels like there’s chances for Billy here.
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Unbelievable we are losing this game.
Still confident.
Feels like there’s chances for Billy here.
[/quote) Don’t you think we’ve just not got a plan B or any-players who can compete with purpose in front of goal !! Bromley ffs
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Ffs. Stuck at it but some horror show misses
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6 strikers on at the end, 29 shots in the game only 8 on target, Rovers finishing tonight has been dire to say the least! Bromley had 5 shots one on target.
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
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Unbelievable Jeff.
Whilst we shake our heads in disbelief, just remember it could have been worse with other matches being quite favourable.
The matches on Saturday look difficult for others, but of course, we need to win against an improved Swindon.
Create half those chances and we surely must put a couple away this time.
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
You must have skipped the conference years then, plenty games like that then
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
We didn't win cos for all the pressure, we barely managed a serious effort on target. And when Bromley put one decent cropss in, our defence melted like spring snow.
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Their player totally unmarked for the goal. Criminal.
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Unbelievable we are losing this game.
Still confident.
Feels like there’s chances for Billy here.
You were right, there was. Some good ones.
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
You must have skipped the conference years then, plenty games like that then
Maybe but i cant recall 26 shots without a goal. Im not sure of Sharp"s contract situation, but hes missed some right chances when hes played. Starting to get pissed off with him. Broadbent was excellent though.
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Wimbledon v Notts County on Saturday.
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Their player totally unmarked for the goal. Criminal.
Unmarked, bad from defenders
2 yard out where is keeper commanding his area?
1 on target, 1 goal.
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
We didn't win cos for all the pressure, we barely managed a serious effort on target. And when Bromley put one decent cropss in, our defence melted like spring snow.
Shots on target don’t tell the story when your volleying wide from 6 yards,
3 times sharp missed sitters, none on target.
Can’t be many times in my lifetime we’ve created that many chances in a game.
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
You must have skipped the conference years then, plenty games like that then
Maybe but i cant recall 26 shots without a goal. Im not sure of Sharp"s contract situation, but hes missed some right chances when hes played. Starting to get pissed off with him. Broadbent was excellent though.
Unbelievable.
Billy makes his own chances with experience of positioning hence why them chances didn't drop to anyone else in the 70 minutes he wasn't on.
If you watch that game without the over emotional commentary they weren't great chances. Tight angles, loads of bodies in box.
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Should’ve won tonight and we did have all the play but the lack of composure cost us big time tonight. Whether it was the final pass or the finish it was very rushed.
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
You must have skipped the conference years then, plenty games like that then
Maybe but i cant recall 26 shots without a goal. Im not sure of Sharp"s contract situation, but hes missed some right chances when hes played. Starting to get pissed off with him. Broadbent was excellent though.
Unbelievable.
Billy makes his own chances with experience of positioning hence why them chances didn't drop to anyone else in the 70 minutes he wasn't on.
If you watch that game without the over emotional commentary they weren't great chances. Tight angles, loads of bodies in box.
Of course they were great chances, the first one is an absolute sitter, on his own 6 yards out with only the keeper in front of him and he’s hit it wide. You can’t get a better chance than that.
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
You must have skipped the conference years then, plenty games like that then
Maybe but i cant recall 26 shots without a goal. Im not sure of Sharp"s contract situation, but hes missed some right chances when hes played. Starting to get pissed off with him. Broadbent was excellent though.
Unbelievable.
Billy makes his own chances with experience of positioning hence why them chances didn't drop to anyone else in the 70 minutes he wasn't on.
If you watch that game without the over emotional commentary they weren't great chances. Tight angles, loads of bodies in box.
The volley wide from 6 yards WAS a great chance. The other 2 were very good chances. We are talking about Billy here. A great striker, but for me time is catching up with him. These are chances he would normally at least hit the target. Hes snatching at shots, and its not just this game im talking about.
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6 strikers on at the end, 29 shots in the game only 8 on target, Rovers finishing tonight has been dire to say the least! Bromley had 5 shots one on target.
How many of the other 21 shots were on target but blocked by defenders though.
Blocked shots, even if they are on target, don’t count in the shots on target stats.
Someone might be able to put the figure up.
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What caused Webster to hit the deck for the free kick which led to the goal
I had one replay front one camera and Broadbent didn't appear to touch him , yet Brosdbent picked up a Yellow
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Why didn’t TSL go up for the last corner? We didn’t have anything to lose
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Our quality and composure in the final third is largely dog shit and has been a big problem all season.
Basically 95 minutes of attack Vs defence today, all 7 attacking players on at the end, and still not one of them able to find that moment of quality to get us anything.
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What caused Webster to hit the deck for the free kick which led to the goal
I had one replay front one camera and Broadbent didn't appear to touch him , yet Brosdbent picked up a Yellow
Broadbent's arm lightly brushed him.
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What caused Webster to hit the deck for the free kick which led to the goal
I had one replay front one camera and Broadbent didn't appear to touch him , yet Brosdbent picked up a Yellow
I am like you and could not see any free kick, and to get a yellow is absolutely diabolical.
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6 strikers on at the end, 29 shots in the game only 8 on target, Rovers finishing tonight has been dire to say the least! Bromley had 5 shots one on target.
How many of the other 21 shots were on target but blocked by defenders though.
Blocked shots, even if they are on target, don’t count in the shots on target stats.
Someone might be able to put the figure up.
33 shots
8 on target
12 blocked
13 off target
1 hit the woodwork
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Sbarra isn't great but he offers more than Clifton. Who looks like a red card waiting to happen every game and woeful on the ball.
Other than that I cannot believe how we've lost that. Gutted and it's more so when you deserve something. Massive 11 games left
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6 strikers on at the end, 29 shots in the game only 8 on target, Rovers finishing tonight has been dire to say the least! Bromley had 5 shots one on target.
How many of the other 21 shots were on target but blocked by defenders though.
Blocked shots, even if they are on target, don’t count in the shots on target stats.
Someone might be able to put the figure up.
33 shots
8 on target
12 blocked
13 off target
1 hit the woodwork
So if the 12 blocked ones were on target as well, that’s around two thirds of the shots that were on target.
We did miss four or five that should have been stitched on goals though.
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We should be on 67 points now. Somehow we’ve contrived to lose 6 points in our two games against Bromley. I would imagine we’ve had 40+ attempts at target over those games. Not even taking 3 points from these two games which we’ve dominated could cost us big time.
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Football doesn’t work like that! There have been games this season when we’ve been lucky to get points, evens itself out
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The worst EFL team I've ever seen. Completely devoid of any quality, and a set of absolute cheats; yet they've done the double over us.
Couple that with Chesterfield, 15th in the league and 19 points behind us before tonight, who also did the double over us, and that's 12 points down the pan that might easily cost us promotion.
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To be fair to Chesterfield, they turn into prime Barcelona when they play us.
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Should’ve won tonight and we did have all the play but the lack of composure cost us big time tonight. Whether it was the final pass or the finish it was very rushed.
When you dominate possession you should have the confidence not to be rushed by anxiety into just trying to shoot every time the ball comes to your feet. Perhaps there should have been half as many attempts, with the wild ones eliminated. Bromley managed to remain relatively composed, faced with over-exuberance from what ought to have been a more mature opponent.
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To be fair to Chesterfield, they turn into prime Barcelona when they play us.
Against 9 men in one game, and against defenders who keep falling down in the other game, there's no wonder they played like that.
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Fair play to the fans that travelled. Cheltenham and Salford took less than 30 to their games and Harrogate less than 50. Please can we get out of this dreadful league.
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
Tactics Tactics etc .. teams like Bromley have just ONE .. score first and and defended with everything you have .
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Tbh ... They started time wasting and tactical cheating before they scored
That includes the first game if I remember rightly ( I rarely do )
Last night where Street was chopped down in first minute , they got a throw . Webster picked it up by corner flag and bowled it 15 ish yards to a team mate to take the throw
Ref made him go back , but he went back 5 yards. Lino joined him instead of waving flag and standing where it went out ( they never do )
Later Street was judged to have fouled by corner flag on near side. The keeper eventually came to take the free kick ( took about a minute ) but eventually he managed to move the ball through crafty moves to well outside the 18 yard line , and in the process moved ball infield as well. So instead of a kick by corner flag he took the kick 25 yards from where the "offence" was given and a good 10 yards from the touchline
This has to stop . Also how many times do you see Offside given and the CB looks like he will take the kick . The Lino is stood level with where the player was flagged off side. The CB gets the ball upfield of that point by tapping it 5 or 6 yards forward
Then he changes his mind and calls on Keeper to take it. You know what I am going to say already ! It's so obvious
He comes out fiddles with the ball , bounces it , tests the pressure ( anything ! ) before spinning it forwards as far as he can get away with.
Finally he is about to kick it some 10 yards forward from where it should be .... so ....
... Which of these happens most ?
A) the Ref sends them right back to level with the Lino
B) The Lino waves his Flag like **** and makes the Player go back to where he is stood OR
C) the Lino simply runs from where the Offside happened and goes to where the kick is eventually going to be taken
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The worst EFL team I've ever seen. Completely devoid of any quality, and a set of absolute cheats; yet they've done the double over us.
Couple that with Chesterfield, 15th in the league and 19 points behind us before tonight, who also did the double over us, and that's 12 points down the pan that might easily cost us promotion.
You are doing bromley a massive disservice.
They arnt 9th by luck. They have taken points off many teams, including walsall (that was the only game walsall dropped points during 11 games), notts county and done the double over wimbledon.
You talk like they are the whipping boys of this league. A team very much within the playoff mix.
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Tbh ... They started time wasting and tactical cheating before they scored
That includes the first game if I remember rightly ( I rarely do )
Last night where Street was chopped down in first minute , they got a throw . Webster picked it up by corner flag and bowled it 15 ish yards to a team mate to take the throw
Ref made him go back , but he went back 5 yards. Lino joined him instead of waving flag and standing where it went out ( they never do )
Later Street was judged to have fouled by corner flag on near side. The keeper eventually came to take the free kick ( took about a minute ) but eventually he managed to move the ball through crafty moves to well outside the 18 yard line , and in the process moved ball infield as well. So instead of a kick by corner flag he took the kick 25 yards from where the "offence" was given and a good 10 yards from the touchline
This has to stop . Also how many times do you see Offside given and the CB looks like he will take the kick . The Lino is stood level with where the player was flagged off side. The CB gets the ball upfield of that point by tapping it 5 or 6 yards forward
Then he changes his mind and calls on Keeper to take it. You know what I am going to say already ! It's so obvious
He comes out fiddles with the ball , bounces it , tests the pressure ( anything ! ) before spinning it forwards as far as he can get away with.
Finally he is about to kick it some 10 yards forward from where it should be .... so ....
... Which of these happens most ?
A) the Ref sends them right back to level with the Lino
B) The Lino waves his Flag like **** and makes the Player go back to where he is stood OR
C) the Lino simply runs from where the Offside happened and goes to where the kick is eventually going to be taken
I remember that “25 yards forward” thing too Wolfie and was ranting at the telly about it as it happened.
As you say, surely the officials can see that.
Another, that you haven’t mentioned is the Moly free kick which hit the bar.
When Gibson placed the ball the defenders lined up about four yards away.
When the ref decided to pace out the ten yards they should go back they made it difficult for him by not moving back and in the end they were ten smallish steps away from the ball, so maybe eight yards only.
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Bromley are 9th due to two reasons. Their defensive structure and clarity without the ball being one. They also play with a physicality and intensity that is what you would expect from teams in a higher division. The intensity possibly being more important than the headline physicality. L
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our finishing all season has been piss poor, that game summed up the season so far.
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I have not felt so supportive of a Rovers’ performance in defeat for a long long time.
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It's the most demoralised I've felt all season, it finally sunk in that we won't be getting out of this awful league with this lot. We looked like headless chickens last night, terrible defending for their goal, and just desperate, rushed, structureless play throughout.
Grant's team selections and formations have been wrong for a while. It's either 4-3-3 or throw more forwards on and see what happens. That't not a plan B.
And some of these players aren't good enough. Has Broadbent shown marginal improvement? Maybe, but he's still slow and can't pass, and makes far too many mistakes. Sbarra is a joke. Ennis is even worse. We've made our standout striker last year in to a benchwarmer. We're entirely reliant on whether Molyneux can make something happen. That's our one tactic. McCann told us he wanted to win the league and get us promotion. He needs to come good on that promise or pack his bags.
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Wow! Not as I saw the game but fair enough
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It's the most demoralised I've felt all season, it finally sunk in that we won't be getting out of this awful league with this lot. We looked like headless chickens last night, terrible defending for their goal, and just desperate, rushed, structureless play throughout.
Grant's team selections and formations have been wrong for a while. It's either 4-3-3 or throw more forwards on and see what happens. That't not a plan B.
And some of these players aren't good enough. Has Broadbent shown marginal improvement? Maybe, but he's still slow and can't pass, and makes far too many mistakes. Sbarra is a joke. Ennis is even worse. We've made our standout striker last year in to a benchwarmer. We're entirely reliant on whether Molyneux can make something happen. That's our one tactic. McCann told us he wanted to win the league and get us promotion. He needs to come good on that promise or pack his bags.
That is absolute nonsense I’m afraid
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It's the most demoralised I've felt all season, it finally sunk in that we won't be getting out of this awful league with this lot. We looked like headless chickens last night, terrible defending for their goal, and just desperate, rushed, structureless play throughout.
Grant's team selections and formations have been wrong for a while. It's either 4-3-3 or throw more forwards on and see what happens. That't not a plan B.
And some of these players aren't good enough. Has Broadbent shown marginal improvement? Maybe, but he's still slow and can't pass, and makes far too many mistakes. Sbarra is a joke. Ennis is even worse. We've made our standout striker last year in to a benchwarmer. We're entirely reliant on whether Molyneux can make something happen. That's our one tactic. McCann told us he wanted to win the league and get us promotion. He needs to come good on that promise or pack his bags.
Well dickos1 has labelled this nonsense, but it reflects the sentiments which I felt in writing my comment after the match. These players do show ability and the way they dominated possession is evidence that they can play skilfully, but the strategy is haphazard and improvised. Good management brings together a bunch of people with different attributes and blends them into an effective force. Molyneux and Sterry have this ability to combine powerfully and we see it in Olowu, but so many of the team seem to operate as individuals. You don’t know what to expect and it’s not obvious that they know what to expect of each other. You have to look at McCann and wonder if he sees how self-defeating this lack of organisation, this strategic failure and want of mutual understanding is. We saw in the individual performances last night that he’s got enough individual talent in his squad but he is not using its combined force to its potential.
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I understand your point and it could be argued that chucking everyone up front as we did at the end of last nights game is a bit thoughtless and haphazard. However….it could also be argued that it was opportunistic because Bromley were offering literally nothing at the other end. Also when we did this we created numerous chances and still (to me) looked quite organised and dangerous
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We were very unlucky last night, we dominated a good side and never took a backward step. That said, as with most games this season I can’t say I really enjoyed it. We are short of style, class and fluency. Midfield has created very little all season so we have relied in the main on Luke, Gibson and Sterry to make something happen (the Maxwell of last season has been a big miss). Luke in particular has been great but even with Luke you have to endure several clangers for every good cross or shot. Our defenders are good at their jobs but their distribution is either ultra safe or hopelessly optimistic, and if we all had a pound for every time Ironside has been locked in a tussle where we ultimately lose possession that would be our season tickets paid for. It’s a tough league but there are plenty of teams, including us in years gone by, that have footballed their way to promotion. At least we are no longer pretending we have the players to do that and the direct style is proving more effective but I don’t find it an easy watch. I really hope it gets us promotion. but I also hope we can add a bit more class next season.
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It's the most demoralised I've felt all season, it finally sunk in that we won't be getting out of this awful league with this lot. We looked like headless chickens last night, terrible defending for their goal, and just desperate, rushed, structureless play throughout.
Grant's team selections and formations have been wrong for a while. It's either 4-3-3 or throw more forwards on and see what happens. That't not a plan B.
And some of these players aren't good enough. Has Broadbent shown marginal improvement? Maybe, but he's still slow and can't pass, and makes far too many mistakes. Sbarra is a joke. Ennis is even worse. We've made our standout striker last year in to a benchwarmer. We're entirely reliant on whether Molyneux can make something happen. That's our one tactic. McCann told us he wanted to win the league and get us promotion. He needs to come good on that promise or pack his bags.
Well dickos1 has labelled this nonsense, but it reflects the sentiments which I felt in writing my comment after the match. These players do show ability and the way they dominated possession is evidence that they can play skilfully, but the strategy is haphazard and improvised. Good management brings together a bunch of people with different attributes and blends them into an effective force. Molyneux and Sterry have this ability to combine powerfully and we see it in Olowu, but so many of the team seem to operate as individuals. You don’t know what to expect and it’s not obvious that they know what to expect of each other. You have to look at McCann and wonder if he sees how self-defeating this lack of organisation, this strategic failure and want of mutual understanding is. We saw in the individual performances last night that he’s got enough individual talent in his squad but he is not using its combined force to its potential.
Well it is absolute nonsense, and what you’ve written confirms that.
If you watched that game and thought oh well this means we’re not going to get promoted then you’re absolutely clueless. We were terrific, but we just couldn’t finish.
It was one of those nights, but the performance was superb
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It's the most demoralised I've felt all season, it finally sunk in that we won't be getting out of this awful league with this lot. We looked like headless chickens last night, terrible defending for their goal, and just desperate, rushed, structureless play throughout.
Grant's team selections and formations have been wrong for a while. It's either 4-3-3 or throw more forwards on and see what happens. That't not a plan B.
And some of these players aren't good enough. Has Broadbent shown marginal improvement? Maybe, but he's still slow and can't pass, and makes far too many mistakes. Sbarra is a joke. Ennis is even worse. We've made our standout striker last year in to a benchwarmer. We're entirely reliant on whether Molyneux can make something happen. That's our one tactic. McCann told us he wanted to win the league and get us promotion. He needs to come good on that promise or pack his bags.
Well dickos1 has labelled this nonsense, but it reflects the sentiments which I felt in writing my comment after the match. These players do show ability and the way they dominated possession is evidence that they can play skilfully, but the strategy is haphazard and improvised. Good management brings together a bunch of people with different attributes and blends them into an effective force. Molyneux and Sterry have this ability to combine powerfully and we see it in Olowu, but so many of the team seem to operate as individuals. You don’t know what to expect and it’s not obvious that they know what to expect of each other. You have to look at McCann and wonder if he sees how self-defeating this lack of organisation, this strategic failure and want of mutual understanding is. We saw in the individual performances last night that he’s got enough individual talent in his squad but he is not using its combined force to its potential.
Well it is absolute nonsense, and what you’ve written confirms that.
If you watched that game and thought oh well this means we’re not going to get promoted then you’re absolutely clueless. We were terrific, but we just couldn’t finish.
It was one of those nights, but the performance was superb
I think just about everyone who was there agreed with that, seldom have I seen the team clapped off like they were after a defeat
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We’ve got a settled side and are now putting together consistently good performances. We’ve come a long was in the last month or two.
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Sharp should have scored twice. The volley from 8 yards out he normally scores that 9 times out of 10.
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The worst EFL team I've ever seen. Completely devoid of any quality, and a set of absolute cheats; yet they've done the double over us.
Couple that with Chesterfield, 15th in the league and 19 points behind us before tonight, who also did the double over us, and that's 12 points down the pan that might easily cost us promotion.
really,both games they had a game plan,actually thought at our place they got their tactics spot on and were very good defensively and didn’t actually turn up and defend,yes Tuesday night we was way on top but for a new efl team for their 1st season on no doubt a low end budget by no means are they they worst efl team,I can think of 6 or 7 teams worse even us a few times this season
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It's the most demoralised I've felt all season, it finally sunk in that we won't be getting out of this awful league with this lot. We looked like headless chickens last night, terrible defending for their goal, and just desperate, rushed, structureless play throughout.
Grant's team selections and formations have been wrong for a while. It's either 4-3-3 or throw more forwards on and see what happens. That't not a plan B.
And some of these players aren't good enough. Has Broadbent shown marginal improvement? Maybe, but he's still slow and can't pass, and makes far too many mistakes. Sbarra is a joke. Ennis is even worse. We've made our standout striker last year in to a benchwarmer. We're entirely reliant on whether Molyneux can make something happen. That's our one tactic. McCann told us he wanted to win the league and get us promotion. He needs to come good on that promise or pack his bags.
Well dickos1 has labelled this nonsense, but it reflects the sentiments which I felt in writing my comment after the match. These players do show ability and the way they dominated possession is evidence that they can play skilfully, but the strategy is haphazard and improvised. Good management brings together a bunch of people with different attributes and blends them into an effective force. Molyneux and Sterry have this ability to combine powerfully and we see it in Olowu, but so many of the team seem to operate as individuals. You don’t know what to expect and it’s not obvious that they know what to expect of each other. You have to look at McCann and wonder if he sees how self-defeating this lack of organisation, this strategic failure and want of mutual understanding is. We saw in the individual performances last night that he’s got enough individual talent in his squad but he is not using its combined force to its potential.
Well it is absolute nonsense, and what you’ve written confirms that.
If you watched that game and thought oh well this means we’re not going to get promoted then you’re absolutely clueless. We were terrific, but we just couldn’t finish.
It was one of those nights, but the performance was superb
I think just about everyone who was there agreed with that, seldom have I seen the team clapped off like they were after a defeat
I completely respect those people who are feeling positive at the moment, and truly admire anyone who thought Tuesday night's performance deserved a standing ovation.
Tuesday for me was a culmination of just not having enjoyed any part of this season; it's been terrible crooked refs spoiling games, playing against time-wasting cheating teams with absolutely no interest in playing football, and in my opinion we've been poor - lacking leadership and quality throughout the season. The Moly goal on Saturday was the first time this season I'd though - wow, that was decent.
This management team and playing team, in my opinion, is disappointing. We were disappointing for 2/3 of last season, and ultimately disappointing when it counted most, and we've been very disappointing this season, in a crap league with bad refs and awful opposition, so I can't help feeling like we're going to be disappointed again. But I hope I'm wrong, and wish I was in the group of you that still believe!
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I won’t recycle all the comments again Reg and I can see your point of view, but I cannot accept that Tuesday’s was the competent performance of a TEAM playing to its strengths. It was obviously more than “huffing and puffing”, but it was not measured and cohesive.
Well-managed, this could be the start of a surge to the top, but let’s have more composure and less rush.
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We started the season being told we have good budget, great manager, the best we could keep from last year and some great signings, with Sharp beyond our expectations. We should have expected to come flying out the starting blocks and an explosive season. 35 games in and we are still waiting for the good run of results to drive us up to league one. Certainly it hasn’t started yet and I don’t expect much from the last 2 games which will see us drop places. We have limped through this season and only where we are because there are so many poor sides in this league.
Just saying …. I have an opinion like everyone else.
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Well-managed, this could be the start of a surge to the top, but let’s have more composure and less rush.
35 games into the season and still waiting for that surge. We are running out of games and that train of thought is looking unrealistic especially after Tuesday. With each game I hope the surge is going to start but it gets tiring waiting. 11 games to go and we face 5 teams in the top 7 also fighting for promotion. Anyone paying attention should be worried.
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The worst EFL team I've ever seen. Completely devoid of any quality, and a set of absolute cheats; yet they've done the double over us.
Couple that with Chesterfield, 15th in the league and 19 points behind us before tonight, who also did the double over us, and that's 12 points down the pan that might easily cost us promotion.
really,both games they had a game plan,actually thought at our place they got their tactics spot on and were very good defensively and didn’t actually turn up and defend,yes Tuesday night we was way on top but for a new efl team for their 1st season on no doubt a low end budget by no means are they they worst efl team,I can think of 6 or 7 teams worse even us a few times this season
You have to credit Bromley with the perfect away performance against us - in both games
But in general the game is dying from all the cheating, feigned injuries and time-wasting. The rule makers need to do something other than awarding a corner if the keeper holds the ball for 8 seconds.
Edit: the things that come to mind are Donny Wolf's oft mooted suggestion of a time keeper stopping the clock when the ball is dead, and playing 2 real 30-minutes halves, and my suggestion of an extra medically trained member of the match officials to make calls on feigned injuries (any player clutching head has to leave pitch for 10 minutes and be assessed, interim concussion sub hauled off if injury feigned and offending player not allowed back), and more retrospective action if video evidence show player cheated to win a penalty/foul/yellow card for opposition player etc
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Well-managed, this could be the start of a surge to the top, but let’s have more composure and less rush.
35 games into the season and still waiting for that surge. We are running out of games and that train of thought is looking unrealistic especially after Tuesday. With each game I hope the surge is going to start but it gets tiring waiting. 11 games to go and we face 5 teams in the top 7 also fighting for promotion. Anyone paying attention should be worried.
We are sat in the automatic promotions spots and you say results haven’t been good.
Crazy
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Ive been watching Rovers 43 years and i cant believe ive seen a game like this during that time. Astonishing how we didnt win it nevermind lose it.
Tactics Tactics etc .. teams like Bromley have just ONE .. score first and and defended with everything you have .
bromley play WALSALL very soon 0-0 banker ?
when they won 1-0 at our place - they scored with a fluke trick shot - bloke swung his right leg - was it from a corner -and missed - ball hit his left leg and stopped dead and from his social distancing position (nobody near him) struck it in as our goalie did nothing but watch it go in
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Well-managed, this could be the start of a surge to the top, but let’s have more composure and less rush.
35 games into the season and still waiting for that surge. We are running out of games and that train of thought is looking unrealistic especially after Tuesday. With each game I hope the surge is going to start but it gets tiring waiting. 11 games to go and we face 5 teams in the top 7 also fighting for promotion. Anyone paying attention should be worried.
We are sat in the automatic promotions spots and you say results haven’t been good.
Crazy
Do you actually read and think what people are saying before posting?
The conversation was about "the surge to the top" people keep talking about. It's not going to happen.
We will see how long we actually stay in the top 3 if we get any more results like last Tuesday.
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It's the most demoralised I've felt all season, it finally sunk in that we won't be getting out of this awful league with this lot. We looked like headless chickens last night, terrible defending for their goal, and just desperate, rushed, structureless play throughout.
Grant's team selections and formations have been wrong for a while. It's either 4-3-3 or throw more forwards on and see what happens. That't not a plan B.
And some of these players aren't good enough. Has Broadbent shown marginal improvement? Maybe, but he's still slow and can't pass, and makes far too many mistakes. Sbarra is a joke. Ennis is even worse. We've made our standout striker last year in to a benchwarmer. We're entirely reliant on whether Molyneux can make something happen. That's our one tactic. McCann told us he wanted to win the league and get us promotion. He needs to come good on that promise or pack his bags.
Well dickos1 has labelled this nonsense, but it reflects the sentiments which I felt in writing my comment after the match. These players do show ability and the way they dominated possession is evidence that they can play skilfully, but the strategy is haphazard and improvised. Good management brings together a bunch of people with different attributes and blends them into an effective force. Molyneux and Sterry have this ability to combine powerfully and we see it in Olowu, but so many of the team seem to operate as individuals. You don’t know what to expect and it’s not obvious that they know what to expect of each other. You have to look at McCann and wonder if he sees how self-defeating this lack of organisation, this strategic failure and want of mutual understanding is. We saw in the individual performances last night that he’s got enough individual talent in his squad but he is not using its combined force to its potential.
Well it is absolute nonsense, and what you’ve written confirms that.
If you watched that game and thought oh well this means we’re not going to get promoted then you’re absolutely clueless. We were terrific, but we just couldn’t finish.
It was one of those nights, but the performance was superb
(https://preview.redd.it/35pigcyp6dy41.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=bdb9aee2aaa950f6f88b3e583329272daaadd415)
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The ten wins in a row started at this corresponding week last season.
No one dreamt that could happen.
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Well-managed, this could be the start of a surge to the top, but let’s have more composure and less rush.
35 games into the season and still waiting for that surge. We are running out of games and that train of thought is looking unrealistic especially after Tuesday. With each game I hope the surge is going to start but it gets tiring waiting. 11 games to go and we face 5 teams in the top 7 also fighting for promotion. Anyone paying attention should be worried.
We are sat in the automatic promotions spots and you say results haven’t been good.
Crazy
Do you actually read and think what people are saying before posting?
The conversation was about "the surge to the top" people keep talking about. It's not going to happen.
We will see how long we actually stay in the top 3 if we get any more results like last Tuesday.
Oh hello, Mr Shaw is back.
Did we lose a game recently?
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Well-managed, this could be the start of a surge to the top, but let’s have more composure and less rush.
35 games into the season and still waiting for that surge. We are running out of games and that train of thought is looking unrealistic especially after Tuesday. With each game I hope the surge is going to start but it gets tiring waiting. 11 games to go and we face 5 teams in the top 7 also fighting for promotion. Anyone paying attention should be worried.
We are sat in the automatic promotions spots and you say results haven’t been good.
Crazy
Do you actually read and think what people are saying before posting?
The conversation was about "the surge to the top" people keep talking about. It's not going to happen.
We will see how long we actually stay in the top 3 if we get any more results like last Tuesday.
Ha ha you’re crackers
We’ve won 7 out of the last 10 games, and you say we’re not in form.
What kind of surge are u hoping for if you think 7 wins out of 10 isn’t good enough
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on thinking about the match it was like a "Battle of the Alamo" f a cup match where a team two divisions ahead is playing away and the minnows held on against all the odds for a shock win --- It was just one of those days - in time it will be our turn to win a match like that with our tin hats on as we defend.
Now you all think Bromley have an impregnable defence well how come they allowed Salford to some back to 3-3 from being 3-0 up ?
There are so many Jekyl & Hyde performances by teams in this league - one
You all said we were as good as sliced bread when we beat Newport and slagged Newport off despite them being in good form - then on Tuesday they thump Gillingham 3-1
and poor old hopeless Gillingham ( a team we beat unimpressively at their place - it was said we burgled the points) today have to face Bradford -- so you all think Gills have no chance,
I thought Bradford would draw at home to no mugs Cheltenham on Tuesdayas they had 2 key players out. but 3-0 ???
I would not be surprised if Bradford dropped points today assuming Sarevic & Patterson are still out
even though Walsall might lose today (2-1 down at the moment)