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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: IDM on March 01, 2025, 09:31:44 pm
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Just seen a clip of the Millwall goalie’s challenge on Mateta.
How the f**k did they need VAR to intervene to award a red card.? The contact may not have been intentional but I haven’t seen anything like that in football since Schumacher on Battiston in 1982. Deserves a lengthy ban IMHO.
Hope Mateta recovers quickly.
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I have just seen the highlights on the bbc sport page and came on to write more or less what you have done IDM.
I think it shows how poor even top refs can be when he can’t see straight away how bad that challenge is.
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Was it Oliver? He's gone from being a good ref to being totally reliant on VAR
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That keeper should be looking at FA charges. No way you go into a challenge like that without knowing you're going to leave something on the other player. As for the ref, he can't be more than 15 yards away and he can't see it's a red. Unbelievable all round.
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Was it Oliver? He's gone from being a good ref to being totally reliant on VAR
And that is part of it the upper refs are becoming reliant on VAR to take the decision out of their hands Just in case they cock up
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Two people who watched the game live told me the Millwall fans were singing “Let him die” when Mateta was receiving treatment and being put on the stretcher.
The usual behaviour from Millwall fans,
Shame on them.
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The FA have tonight condemned the chanting of “Let him die” by the Millwall fans but said they did not actually “breach their regulations”.
Mateta has been discharged from hospital with 25 stitches in his face.
And the referee needed VAR to decide a red card was required.
I despair.
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Watched it live. One of those where you visibly winced and couldn’t believe the ref played on. Millwall fans are a different breed - a very, very loud chorus of “let him die” when it was quite clear he was hurt and even some boos (more scattered) when he was stretchered off some 13 minutes after he’d been taken out. Sub human scum.
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Just seen a clip of the Millwall goalie’s challenge on Mateta.
How the f**k did they need VAR to intervene to award a red card.? The contact may not have been intentional but I haven’t seen anything like that in football since Schumacher on Battiston in 1982. Deserves a lengthy ban IMHO.
Hope Mateta recovers quickly.
Yes it reminded me massively of the Battiston assault
I took my dad and dad in.law to watch the game on a big screen at Hatfield Squash club.
I was in disgrace as the incident happened as I jumped to my feet and shouted " b******" Neither of them had heard me swear before
I sat down dignity gone lol
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Harald Schumacher on Patrick Battiston.
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Two people who watched the game live told me the Millwall fans were singing “Let him die” when Mateta was receiving treatment and being put on the stretcher.
The usual behaviour from Millwall fans,
Shame on them.
As did the Palarse nonce's when our player was down but the BBC chose to ignore that. Noluwdc. F 'em all.
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Harald Schumacher on Patrick Battiston.
That was an horrific thing by Roberts yesterday, completely reckless, stupid, and with no regard for the other player's safety
But IMHO Schumacher on Battiston was worse - it was quite deliberate, a true scandal
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Two people who watched the game live told me the Millwall fans were singing “Let him die” when Mateta was receiving treatment and being put on the stretcher.
The usual behaviour from Millwall fans,
Shame on them.
As did the Palarse nonce's when our player was down but the BBC chose to ignore that. Noluwdc. F 'em all.
I’ve also heard rovers morons doing the same chant when an opponent player was being attended to by the first aiders.
Sadly, it’s not just Millwall fans.
I also hate it when idiots around me shout to ‘snap him’
I got into an argument for rebuking such a person, he told me to go to the family stand.
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Whatever ban Roberts gets, they should give the same to Oliver. If he can't see that it is a red card with a clear line of vision and being only a few yards away, he shouldn't be refereeing.
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Whatever ban Roberts gets, they should give the same to Oliver. If he can't see that it is a red card with a clear line of vision and being only a few yards away, he shouldn't be refereeing.
Assessor will probably write that he got all the big decisions correct.
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I hope the injured Palace player doesn't hold a grudge. Hakuna Matete maybe?
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That Mateta chap looked enormous when at our place. So it makes it more staggering that anyone could manage to boot him in the head. What was he thinking. I can only dream of getting my leg that high.
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Boom Boom McCombe at Brentford anyone?
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I vividly remember Sulli taking out a young striker in an away game at either Sunderland or Middlesborough in our Championship days. Sulli didn't leave the turf like the Millwall idiot did, he just raced out like a chieftain tank and the striker was stretchered off. Difference being Sulli committed no foul.
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I vividly remember Sulli taking out a young striker in an away game at either Sunderland or Middlesborough in our Championship days. Sulli didn't leave the turf like the Millwall idiot did, he just raced out like a chieftain tank and the striker was stretchered off. Difference being Sulli committed no foul.
Yes, it was Marvin Emnes at Middlesbrough who had to leave on a stretcher. Sully was slightly late shall we say.
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Sulli went up to collect the high ball and he left his knee up, at the time, I thought that he was lucky that he didn’t get a red card for his assault on Emnes, he was sidelined for quite a while after that incident.
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Two people who watched the game live told me the Millwall fans were singing “Let him die” when Mateta was receiving treatment and being put on the stretcher.
The usual behaviour from Millwall fans,
Shame on them.
As did the Palarse nonce's when our player was down but the BBC chose to ignore that. Noluwdc. F 'em all.
How very predictable.
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Two people who watched the game live told me the Millwall fans were singing “Let him die” when Mateta was receiving treatment and being put on the stretcher.
The usual behaviour from Millwall fans,
Shame on them.
As did the Palarse nonce's when our player was down but the BBC chose to ignore that. Noluwdc. F 'em all.
Was your player down after receiving a kick to the head and given oxygen on the pitch?
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I agree you would have to question if there was intent, it certainly looked that way.
However how many keepers go up with their leg stretched out in front of them!
The nature of this action can only be that their studs will make contact with the incoming player, this I suggest that this is a wider issue which needs to be addressed.
Given majority of people will say this challenge was no accident, he should be charged with gosh, and has the palace manager has said he could have killed Mateta he would thus be implying attempted murder!
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The FA have tonight condemned the chanting of “Let him die” by the Millwall fans but said they did not actually “breach their regulations”.
The Football Association has condemned some "let him die" chants made towards Mateta by some Millwall fans while he was receiving treatment on the pitch, but said they do not breach its regulations.
However, the FA will investigate homophobic chants aimed towards Ben Chilwell, on loan at Palace from Chelsea, from Millwall supporters.
Interesting.
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The FA have tonight condemned the chanting of “Let him die” by the Millwall fans but said they did not actually “breach their regulations”.
The Football Association has condemned some "let him die" chants made towards Mateta by some Millwall fans while he was receiving treatment on the pitch, but said they do not breach its regulations.
However, the FA will investigate homophobic chants aimed towards Ben Chilwell, on loan at Palace from Chelsea, from Millwall supporters.
Interesting.
Yawn. Heard it all before. Any other club and you wouldn't have heard about it. Because Wall are the biggest little club in the world it sells papers. He went for the ball, I want commitment from the Lions. The Palace chairman is a joke. That club represents everything that is wrong with modern football. It will all be forgotten in a few days and they can get back in their box and toddle off back to Surrey.
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The FA have tonight condemned the chanting of “Let him die” by the Millwall fans but said they did not actually “breach their regulations”.
The Football Association has condemned some "let him die" chants made towards Mateta by some Millwall fans while he was receiving treatment on the pitch, but said they do not breach its regulations.
However, the FA will investigate homophobic chants aimed towards Ben Chilwell, on loan at Palace from Chelsea, from Millwall supporters.
Interesting.
Yawn. Heard it all before. Any other club and you wouldn't have heard about it. Because Wall are the biggest little club in the world it sells papers. He went for the ball, I want commitment from the Lions. The Palace chairman is a joke. That club represents everything that is wrong with modern football. It will all be forgotten in a few days and they can get back in their box and toddle off back to Surrey.
“The Biggest Little Club in The World”!
Despite having a number of London clubs in your division, the “Biggest Little Club” can’t even attract gates of more than 17,000 (& that was against QPR who warrant that ridiculous tag a damn sight more than your mob) a vast majority of that attendance would have been made of travelling support so get real.
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The FA have tonight condemned the chanting of “Let him die” by the Millwall fans but said they did not actually “breach their regulations”.
The Football Association has condemned some "let him die" chants made towards Mateta by some Millwall fans while he was receiving treatment on the pitch, but said they do not breach its regulations.
However, the FA will investigate homophobic chants aimed towards Ben Chilwell, on loan at Palace from Chelsea, from Millwall supporters.
Interesting.
Yawn. Heard it all before. Any other club and you wouldn't have heard about it. Because Wall are the biggest little club in the world it sells papers. He went for the ball, I want commitment from the Lions. The Palace chairman is a joke. That club represents everything that is wrong with modern football. It will all be forgotten in a few days and they can get back in their box and toddle off back to Surrey.
“He went for the ball”..
At head height, studs first. Probably the second worst challenge I have seen in 50 years of watching football. And you’re trying to justify it because it was your club.
Zero credibility whatsoever..
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I thought it was a genuine attempt at the ball and just an unfortunate incident. You see keepers charging out their area all the time having to make those type of clearances where the balls at a difficult height.
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
Horrific as Roberts' action was, I still maintain Schumacher-Battiston was worse - IIRC Schumacher changed his direction to collide with Battiston well after the ball had gone
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
Horrific as Roberts' action was, I still maintain Schumacher-Battiston was worse - IIRC Schumacher changed his direction to collide with Battiston well after the ball had gone
I don’t think Battiston played again
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It was a life threatening incident, but gladly he did play again, including in the national team, although I don't think he was ever quite the same player afterwards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Battiston
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
Horrific as Roberts' action was, I still maintain Schumacher-Battiston was worse - IIRC Schumacher changed his direction to collide with Battiston well after the ball had gone
https://youtu.be/tGq7VcaHoqo?si=xS_GZFZIiVsAFHAh
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I can’t do a link so can someone please put the clip of Jason Cousins, Wycombe Wanderers 25/9/93 the “tackle “ on David Moss. It’s the worst one I’ve seen on a Rovers player ever
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
If the keeper goes in with his head what's to say the attackers not gonna put his foot in & try to nick the ball past? Keepers played the ball and protected himself I'd expect our keeper to do the same. Just unfortunate for me but you're entitled to your opinion
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
Horrific as Roberts' action was, I still maintain Schumacher-Battiston was worse - IIRC Schumacher changed his direction to collide with Battiston well after the ball had gone
Agreed, hence the second worst challenge I have seen.
And no VAR back then too..
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
If the keeper goes in with his head what's to say the attackers not gonna put his foot in & try to nick the ball past? Keepers played the ball and protected himself I'd expect our keeper to do the same. Just unfortunate for me but you're entitled to your opinion
Would still be the same offence.
Trying to play the ball at head height with the boot studs out is dangerous and reckless, when another player’s head is in close proximity. It’s not just an opinion it’s reality.
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
If the keeper goes in with his head what's to say the attackers not gonna put his foot in & try to nick the ball past? Keepers played the ball and protected himself I'd expect our keeper to do the same. Just unfortunate for me but you're entitled to your opinion
Would still be the same offence.
Trying to play the ball at head height with the boot studs out is dangerous and reckless, when another player’s head is in close proximity. It’s not just an opinion it’s reality.
The ball was chest height when he played it with his studs facing down , it's the momentum after that's done the damage. Yes it's a red card but I personally don't think it was a malicious challenge as he was totally focused on the ball as he races out, and if it wasn't for the fact he needed 25 stitches in his ear I doubt much more would have been made of the incident.
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
If the keeper goes in with his head what's to say the attackers not gonna put his foot in & try to nick the ball past? Keepers played the ball and protected himself I'd expect our keeper to do the same. Just unfortunate for me but you're entitled to your opinion
Would still be the same offence.
Trying to play the ball at head height with the boot studs out is dangerous and reckless, when another player’s head is in close proximity. It’s not just an opinion it’s reality.
Just ask Tommy Rowe last season
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
Horrific as Roberts' action was, I still maintain Schumacher-Battiston was worse - IIRC Schumacher changed his direction to collide with Battiston well after the ball had gone
Agreed, hence the second worst challenge I have seen.
And no VAR back then too..
And even worse, Schumacher showed no remorse or care for the injured player.
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I can’t do a link so can someone please put the clip of Jason Cousins, Wycombe Wanderers 25/9/93 the “tackle “ on David Moss. It’s the worst one I’ve seen on a Rovers player ever
Really terrible assault. Moss got straight up though! He was only a part time player as well. Insurance broker by day.
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
If the keeper goes in with his head what's to say the attackers not gonna put his foot in & try to nick the ball past? Keepers played the ball and protected himself I'd expect our keeper to do the same. Just unfortunate for me but you're entitled to your opinion
Would still be the same offence.
Trying to play the ball at head height with the boot studs out is dangerous and reckless, when another player’s head is in close proximity. It’s not just an opinion it’s reality.
The ball was chest height when he played it with his studs facing down , it's the momentum after that's done the damage. Yes it's a red card but I personally don't think it was a malicious challenge as he was totally focused on the ball as he races out, and if it wasn't for the fact he needed 25 stitches in his ear I doubt much more would have been made of the incident.
I don’t think there was malice either, but dangerous and reckless nonetheless..
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
If the keeper goes in with his head what's to say the attackers not gonna put his foot in & try to nick the ball past? Keepers played the ball and protected himself I'd expect our keeper to do the same. Just unfortunate for me but you're entitled to your opinion
Would still be the same offence.
Trying to play the ball at head height with the boot studs out is dangerous and reckless, when another player’s head is in close proximity. It’s not just an opinion it’s reality.
The ball was chest height when he played it with his studs facing down , it's the momentum after that's done the damage. Yes it's a red card but I personally don't think it was a malicious challenge as he was totally focused on the ball as he races out, and if it wasn't for the fact he needed 25 stitches in his ear I doubt much more would have been made of the incident.
It was being spoken about everywhere long before the stitches were done.
He went for the ball no doubt, but it is still a ridiculous challenge
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I can’t do a link so can someone please put the clip of Jason Cousins, Wycombe Wanderers 25/9/93 the “tackle “ on David Moss. It’s the worst one I’ve seen on a Rovers player ever
https://x.com/wwfcofficial/status/1256501450924003332?t=XUz1Kf1VzjmC7IDJMsC-Vg&s=19
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
If the keeper goes in with his head what's to say the attackers not gonna put his foot in & try to nick the ball past? Keepers played the ball and protected himself I'd expect our keeper to do the same. Just unfortunate for me but you're entitled to your opinion
Would still be the same offence.
Trying to play the ball at head height with the boot studs out is dangerous and reckless, when another player’s head is in close proximity. It’s not just an opinion it’s reality.
The ball was chest height when he played it with his studs facing down , it's the momentum after that's done the damage. Yes it's a red card but I personally don't think it was a malicious challenge as he was totally focused on the ball as he races out, and if it wasn't for the fact he needed 25 stitches in his ear I doubt much more would have been made of the incident.
It was being spoken about everywhere long before the stitches were done.
He went for the ball no doubt, but it is still a ridiculous challenge
Been given a further 3 match ban. It wasn’t a ridiculous challenge it was a dangerous one however, the flack he & his family are receiving on ‘the good old’ social platforms IS ridiculous.
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Maybe if the ref had given it immediately and sent him off there would have been less controversy. It was a challenge that should never have been made and though he never intended to hurt him he was out of control once he jumped in. Imagine if his studs had hit his eye instead of his ear.
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Just seen it today for the 1st time, impossible to be anything other than a red even though in my day it would probably just have been a telling off and a free kick
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Maybe if the ref had given it immediately and sent him off there would have been less controversy. It was a challenge that should never have been made and though he never intended to hurt him he was out of control once he jumped in. Imagine if his studs had hit his eye instead of his ear.
I think that sometimes players could do themselves a big favour when they hurt an opponent by going over to see if they are ok and not just walk away as if they don’t care.
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Even if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, you just can’t do that at head height with an opponent close by. A header would have been OK and in the penalty box a punch.
If the keeper goes in with his head what's to say the attackers not gonna put his foot in & try to nick the ball past? Keepers played the ball and protected himself I'd expect our keeper to do the same. Just unfortunate for me but you're entitled to your opinion
Would still be the same offence.
Trying to play the ball at head height with the boot studs out is dangerous and reckless, when another player’s head is in close proximity. It’s not just an opinion it’s reality.
The ball was chest height when he played it with his studs facing down , it's the momentum after that's done the damage. Yes it's a red card but I personally don't think it was a malicious challenge as he was totally focused on the ball as he races out, and if it wasn't for the fact he needed 25 stitches in his ear I doubt much more would have been made of the incident.
It was being spoken about everywhere long before the stitches were done.
He went for the ball no doubt, but it is still a ridiculous challenge
Been given a further 3 match ban. It wasn’t a ridiculous challenge it was a dangerous one however, the flack he & his family are receiving on ‘the good old’ social platforms IS ridiculous.
The extra ban is justified; the abuse is not.