Viking Supporters Co-operative
Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: roversdude on March 25, 2025, 04:21:18 pm
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Come on guys looks like it’s £17 short of the target
https://www.gofundme.com/f/black-bank-official-gfm
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Just put in the last £17.00 needed. I know there are names to be put on it. Can someone arrange for my lads name to be put on it. Joshua Dales. Maybe they can put Spilsby Red on it for me. A lot know I can’t get to matches now. But if it’s one name could it be my lads. If someone knows who are sorting this out
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Nice one Spilsby I messaged the lad who organised it
Hope you’re bearing up pal
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Not to bad thanks. Very tired. 3 more days of radiotherapy left. 4 weeks of then chemo starts. Thanks for messaging for me. I try to do my bit for the club and fans. Can’t make games but my heart is there. Let me know what they say please
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Will do Spilsby
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Not to bad thanks. Very tired. 3 more days of radiotherapy left. 4 weeks of then chemo starts. Thanks for messaging for me. I try to do my bit for the club and fans. Can’t make games but my heart is there. Let me know what they say please
Keep fighting, Spilsby. We're all thinking of you, mate.
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This reminds me that I donated £10 towards a flag last April, in response to an appeal on here.
I can’t remember who put out the appeal.
Never heard another thing about it and haven’t seen the flag either.
By the way, I am in no way wishing to undermine or question this new initiative, which is a great idea and is clearly being properly organised.
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I put £15 in to this latest one but not been asked for any names yet.
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I’m sure I read that the last flag was stolen, hope this one is stored in a secure location and well looked after.
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Having contributed again could I request that the organisers explain how the flag will be managed on match days and how will it be stored between matches and by whom .I assume and hope the club will take joint care of this £ 3000 piece of fans’ money .The last one ended up in the boot of a well meaning fan’s car and was stolen !
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I've found the thread I was thinking of now:
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=290916.0
This was to be a new surfer flag to use in last season's play-offs. The fundraising was organised by RoverBB (Matty Davies?).
As far as I know, over £1,000 was donated and I could be wrong but I don't remember ever seeing the flag?
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Pancho ..I hope you get an answer from Matty but if not Please let me know .I have forwarded a message to Shaun at the club because this new £ 3000 flag needs to be taken into proper supervision and safe keeping by the club .If not, fans ( like us ) will never participate again.
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The best one was the John Ryan Revolution flag that used to come out all the time and I think was stored behind the south stand. Mysteriously disappeared just about the time JR became persona non grata at the Keepmoat. Mystery.
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Having contributed again could I request that the organisers explain how the flag will be managed on match days and how will it be stored between matches and by whom .I assume and hope the club will take joint care of this £ 3000 piece of fans’ money .The last one ended up in the boot of a well meaning fan’s car and was stolen !
I’m struggling to think of what anyone who stole that flag would do with it.
Unless of course it was a Rotherham fan who used it to start a bonfire on 5th November.
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The best one was the John Ryan Revolution flag that used to come out all the time and I think was stored behind the south stand. Mysteriously disappeared just about the time JR became persona non grata at the Keepmoat. Mystery.
Hopefully got thrown in the skip where it belonged.
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I understand the car was stolen with the flag in the boot .
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Sorry, was it the big shirt flag that was stolen (so in effect we have no big flags/banners) which I donated to as indeed I did for the flag Pancho Regan enquires about, what happened to the monies collected for that flag that to my knowledge never saw the light of day?
Not accusing anyone of being ‘underhand’ here, just genuinely curious.
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I put a tenner in for that one as well.
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I don't understand the fascination of buying new big flags all the time, especially when big flgas already exist and don't get used. This one is still in the club, and was last used during covid as a cover for all the empty seats;
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I don't understand the fascination of buying new big flags all the time, especially when big flgas already exist and don't get used. This one is still in the club, and was last used during covid as a cover for all the empty seats;
Why don’t they use it to cover the empty seats in the North Stand?
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So it seems a genuine question is arising here:
What happened to the previous fund-raising initiative by RoverBB to buy a big flag one year ago (April 2024) to which I and several posters on this thread donated?
The thread in question, the link to which I posted above, includes a link to the fundraising page. This shows a total of £1040 raised.
Was a flag purchased? I don't recall hearing that the flag came to fruition, and I don't recall ever seeing it.
Matty Davies was the fundraiser and he is also part of this new initiative.
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I don't understand the fascination of buying new big flags all the time, especially when big flgas already exist and don't get used. This one is still in the club, and was last used during covid as a cover for all the empty seats;
Get it out then !!!! It's alright saying we've got one, but then keep it in a cupboard somewhere!
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Silent M …unbelievable switch off on your part to the genuine concern being expressed on here by people who donate money and are asking where it went.You do a lot for football Martin but your arrogance is sometimes un bloody bearable.
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Silent M …unbelievable switch off on your part to the genuine concern being expressed on here by people who donate money and are asking where it went.You do a lot for football Martin but your arrogance is sometimes un bloody bearable.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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I don't understand the fascination of buying new big flags all the time, especially when big flgas already exist and don't get used. This one is still in the club, and was last used during covid as a cover for all the empty seats;
Why don’t they use it to cover the empty seats in the North Stand?
There'll be numerous reasons for that especially when you have away fans in the stadium. I would suggest that doing that would contravene numerous Safety regulations, or at least be interpreted so.
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I think SM's post is a valid contribution to be honest.
And the question remains that there seems to have been at least one flag appeal which didn't end up with a flag, despite a substantial sum of money being raised, unless of course I'm mistaken.
I can't see any posts by DonnyBB on the forum since his flag appeal last April 2024.
Can anyone shed any light on this?
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No of course you don’t Martin! Allow me to speak plainer English then . This forum is representative of the club and collects subscriptions from us to help it do so. It has you and other people who represent the club either as Supporters club reps, Shadow Board reps, or Lady Supporters club reps. Then you have others, like myself who subscribe to every one of your representative entities.
Don’t treat us like also-rans! The fact that I put £150 quid into two surfer flags deserves a better response than the one you offered which was to intimate you did not understand what the problem is since one of the flags is where you know it to be!
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No of course you don’t Martin! Allow me to speak plainer English then . This forum is representative of the club and collects subscriptions from us to help it do so. It has you and other people who represent the club either as Supporters club reps, Shadow Board reps, or Lady Supporters club reps. Then you have others, like myself who subscribe to every one of your representative entities.
Don’t treat us like also-rans! The fact that I put £150 quid into two surfer flags deserves a better response than the one you offered which was to intimate you did not understand what the problem is since one of the flags is where you know it to be!
Brian, I'm still struggling to understand what point you're making. Nowhere in your previous posts have you asked me to do anything, nor have you explained that you've put money into a couple of flag crowdfunders and that you want answers from a VSC rep. You want a better response from me? In what regard? I haven’t asked you to contribute to anything, and I'm not responsible for what the BB get up to.
All I've done is point out that there is a large flag already in the stadium.
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I don't understand the fascination of buying new big flags all the time, especially when big flgas already exist and don't get used. This one is still in the club, and was last used during covid as a cover for all the empty seats;
Get it out then !!!! It's alright saying we've got one, but then keep it in a cupboard somewhere!
Why don't you do it? There's nobody stopping you.
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The appeal was made on the club’s offical website .You or another official representative of the fans could have said ..Hold on guys before you spend another £ 300O , I know where there is a surfer .
Do what Martin ?
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Anyway, if we already have that big (and it looks very big) surfing flag then would it be possible to get it out pre match in our final home matches this season to help pump up the atmosphere pre match.
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The club does not have the staff to manage the flag in stadium nor after according to an email I have from Shaun asking is the club could provide safeguards .So it is up to those who made the appeal to safeguard it .
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The club does not have the staff to manage the flag in stadium nor after according to an email I have from Shaun asking is the club could provide safeguards .So it is up to those who made the appeal to safeguard it .
Maybe Donny Dog could guard it in his/her Kennel during the week?
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Finally on this from my side , I have asked Shaun if ( since it was an appeal on the official site ) whether the club could ask those who launched the appeal to give a feed back to explain how they intend to manage the flag in stadium and safeguard it between matches .Amen!
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No of course you don’t Martin! Allow me to speak plainer English then . This forum is representative of the club and collects subscriptions from us to help it do so. It has you and other people who represent the club either as Supporters club reps, Shadow Board reps, or Lady Supporters club reps. Then you have others, like myself who subscribe to every one of your representative entities.
Don’t treat us like also-rans! The fact that I put £150 quid into two surfer flags deserves a better response than the one you offered which was to intimate you did not understand what the problem is since one of the flags is where you know it to be!
TBF, I think SM has every right to tell you to...
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The appeal was made on the club’s offical website .You or another official representative of the fans could have said ..Hold on guys before you spend another £ 300O , I know where there is a surfer .
Do what Martin ?
Brian, the people who have arranged the new crowdfunder know there is a surfer flag already in the club. The club also know there is a surfer flag in the club. I wasn't consulted, (and why should I be) therefore what do you think I could add to this? Its not for me to tell a section of the supporter base not to raise money for another flag.
I repeat, all I did was point out that it doesn’t make any sense to me.
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Both flags in south stand would look ace.
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Surely if we have a surfer flag at the ground why havent we seen it at every game? It seems pretty pointless raising thousands of pounds for flags which remain locked away for home games?
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Surely if we have a surfer flag at the ground why havent we seen it at every game? It seems pretty pointless raising thousands of pounds for flags which remain locked away for home games?
Or even worse, raising thousands of pounds for flags which are never even produced.
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Having given my tenpenneth & having read other posters on this subject AND being told there is a ‘perfectly good’ flag/banners currently being stored at the stadium ready for use, I am more inclined to buy bitcoin than contribute ‘yet again’ to ‘yet another’ flag.
I put literally hundreds of pounds (this season over£1k) into my club without having someone looking to ‘con me’ out of more.
USE THE BLOODY FLAG ‘WE’ HAVE!
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Having given my tenpenneth & having read other posters on this subject AND being told there is a ‘perfectly good’ flag/banners currently being stored at the stadium ready for use, I am more inclined to buy bitcoin than contribute ‘yet again’ to ‘yet another’ flag.
I put literally hundreds of pounds (this season over£1k) into my club without having someone looking to ‘con me’ out of more.
USE THE BLOODY FLAG ‘WE’ HAVE!
Like you Usher (albeit not on your scale - well done!), I'm always willing to jump in and contribute to these types of initiatives, but the recollection of what happened with last year's flag fundraiser made me hesitate this time.
I'm still hoping that DonnyBB will come on here and give a reassuring explanation as to what happened with last year's appeal.
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I feel complicit now for pushing it …..sorry
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Surely if we have a surfer flag at the ground why havent we seen it at every game? It seems pretty pointless raising thousands of pounds for flags which remain locked away for home games?
Essentially its because it can be quite a time consuming exercise. To start with you need about 6-8 people who have to be there at a certain time. Preparing the flag, surfing, collecting again, and putting it away takes time. You probably miss kick-off as well because it'll take more than ten minutes to put it away.
Apathy takes over eventually.
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I feel complicit now for pushing it …..sorry
Absolutely no need for you to apologise roversdude.
I'd have done exactly the same if I hadn't had the niggling concern about what happened last year.
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Surely if we have a surfer flag at the ground why havent we seen it at every game? It seems pretty pointless raising thousands of pounds for flags which remain locked away for home games?
Essentially its because it can be quite a time consuming exercise. To start with you need about 6-8 people who have to be there at a certain time. Preparing the flag, surfing, collecting again, and putting it away takes time. You probably miss kick-off as well because it'll take more than ten minutes to put it away.
Apathy takes over eventually.
So all a bit pointless then eh? :facepalm:
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He’s hardly saying that. The evidence shows after the sugar rush of getting a new flag, nobody can be bothered with it on a Tuesday night game against Morecambe. It then gathers dust and everyone forgets until the next crowdfunder for another flag.
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Has anyone still got links to the collection site where donations were made last year? There might be evidence of the funds being withdrawn, if this is the case, it puts the motives behind the campaign into question?
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Yes, it's here adam:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/new-drfc-surfer-for-the-fans-by-the-fans?utm_campaign=p_cp+fundraiser-sidebar&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer
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It says donations protected, so can you ask for your money back? It's a strange one for sure...
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Usually, if the target hasn't been met, the money gets automatically refunded.
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The lack of response from the organisers tells its own story really
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The lack of response from the organisers tells its own story really
Exactly my thoughts Filo.
No response from anyone involved in last year’s appeal.
Where did the £1040 go?
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If we are talking about the SAME flag then I can help .The first flag I donated eas organised by a guy who uses this forum on
y occasionally but usually communicates through X.com .He stated on what was then twitter thst his car had been stolen and as an aside mentioned the FLAG was in his boot .
I agree that all donations should go through one or the other official channels of the club or it’s supporters which would add a safeguard of honesty and accountability .As it is some folk will never contribute again .
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I can confirm Matty did have his car nicked, that was September last year
I cannot confirm whether the flag was in the boot though but Matty is a good guy and I'd have no reason to doubt him.
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I can confirm Matty did have his car nicked, that was September last year
I cannot confirm whether the flag was in the boot though but Matty is a good guy and I'd have no reason to doubt him.
It appears Matthew suspended all donations when the fund reached £1040.
Perhaps he’d like to tell the forum what happened to that money?
Similarly, the ‘new banner’ donations passed £3030 & the deadline for donations to THAT project deadlined on the 28th also organised by Marty & The Black Bank (?). Any update on that one Matthew (Matty) ?
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I can confirm Matty did have his car nicked, that was September last year
I cannot confirm whether the flag was in the boot though but Matty is a good guy and I'd have no reason to doubt him.
It appears Matthew suspended all donations when the fund reached £1040.
Perhaps he’d like to tell the forum what happened to that money?
Similarly, the ‘new banner’ donations passed £3030 & the deadline for donations to THAT project deadlined on the 28th also organised by Marty & The Black Bank (?). Any update on that one Matthew (Matty) ?
I’ll take that as a no.
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If there is an issue and I donated then shouldn’t the police be informed as this could be fraudulent. If there was a reply from the ones who started this then ok, but there isn’t. Surely the club should be informed, with the concerns.
Just putting it out there. Hopefully they are sorting the flag as we speak but the silence doesn’t sound good
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I am sure Matty was not. at all a party to this latest flag appeal and I see no reason whatsoever to criticise him for the loss of the previous one either .This latest flag was. advertised on DROS so should be totally genuine also .
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Don't know if the flag will be made or not as I don't know anyone who is involved in it , If it's not made and is a scam most people will think I just lost a tenner but when it's done to 300 people a few will be unhappy and want answers
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I’ve e mailed and asked for an update
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I am sure Matty was not. at all a party to this latest flag appeal and I see no reason whatsoever to criticise him for the loss of the previous one either .This latest flag was. advertised on DROS so should be totally genuine also .
Yes he is a party to this latest appeal Bri - his name is on the gofundme page.
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Hello All
To post an update. The flag has been purchased and is in the process of being produced. We expect to have it in situ for the AFC Wimbledon fixture.
The flag mentioned that I did last year was done by me personally not Black Bank - this was unfortunately in the boot of my car when it was stolen. The car was recovered but everything inside, right down to my children’s car seats and toys were dumped.
As such, this time around, I advised the new guys that have resurrected Black Bank to ensure they had everything in place prior to doing the crowdfunding. They have been working directly with Mark Hughesman & Mike Allott from the club as well as Phil Winterman who heads up the Shadow Board initiative - The Matchday experience group to ensure accountability, insurance and safe storage -Black Bank have been given a locked storage closet just off the South Stand where this will be housed as well as the other flags that we are having to repair and replace.
I’m happy to answer any further questions about the new flag as ever.
RTID
Matty
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I don't understand the fascination of buying new big flags all the time, especially when big flgas already exist and don't get used. This one is still in the club, and was last used during covid as a cover for all the empty seats;
Martin, I still love this surfer but I was led to believe by the club that this had gone missing. I spoke to Rob Clark about this last May as the lord Nelson pub wanted to hang it from the roof of their pub for the play off semi final and they even went as far as to sign a contract to state they would pay if it were to be damaged but when they went to collect, the club told them it could not be located??
It is a shame cause I’d love to see this out more. Could even be used in a display that we were thinking about.
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I don't understand the fascination of buying new big flags all the time, especially when big flgas already exist and don't get used. This one is still in the club, and was last used during covid as a cover for all the empty seats;
Martin, I still love this surfer but I was led to believe by the club that this had gone missing. I spoke to Rob Clark about this last May as the lord Nelson pub wanted to hang it from the roof of their pub for the play off semi final and they even went as far as to sign a contract to state they would pay if it were to be damaged but when they went to collect, the club told them it could not be located??
It is a shame cause I’d love to see this out more. Could even be used in a display that we were thinking about.
Hi Matty,
If this is the case it's the first I've heard. The club used it throughout the pandemic so they should know where it is
We would love to see it being used more, so I'll check.
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I don't understand the fascination of buying new big flags all the time, especially when big flgas already exist and don't get used. This one is still in the club, and was last used during covid as a cover for all the empty seats;
Martin, I still love this surfer but I was led to believe by the club that this had gone missing. I spoke to Rob Clark about this last May as the lord Nelson pub wanted to hang it from the roof of their pub for the play off semi final and they even went as far as to sign a contract to state they would pay if it were to be damaged but when they went to collect, the club told them it could not be located??
It is a shame cause I’d love to see this out more. Could even be used in a display that we were thinking about.
Hi Matty,
If this is the case it's the first I've heard. The club used it throughout the pandemic so they should know where it is
We would love to see it being used more, so I'll check.
This was Black Bank’s primary concern regarding storage for new flags and banners. Historically, we had a small storage area in the grounds man’s store room but as personnel changed, they got moved throughout the stadium from the sluices, to just being left out in connecting corridors. We lost in the region of 40 waiving flags from it all too. I got to the point of giving up on crowdfunders to replace them until I got that bug last year - and I chose to keep that one in my possession- which then went you know what.
This year, I was able to pass Black Bank on to a few individuals who have my complete trust, one of which was involved in the early BB days and two more who will be able to take the reigns until my kids are the age where I can have all my weekends back at the Eco-Power with them. Whist not intending to be a named part of this latest appeal, more acting as an intermediary between them, the club and the suppliers, I had to link my own GFM account to the main crowdfunder due to some issues with the transfers being sent out.