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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: TonySoprano on March 29, 2025, 06:37:51 pm
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Best game he's had in a Rovers shirt today.
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Best game he's had in a Rovers shirt today.
Tony in a positive post shocker….
Jokes aside, totally agree.
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I'm not a negative Nelly but we were playing a Conference bound side. I hope he kicks on.
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Best game he's had in a Rovers shirt today.
But what does he offer when his passing fails which it did on numerous occasions.
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Thought Edith Piaf *** ( the little Sbarra ) was great today . He was everywhere and even played a great headed pass at one point
Thought Street was going well and Broadbent too and all got subbed probably with Walsall game in mind
*** That's a joke for SS , BB and others of that age ;)
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Thought it was quite funny when Jamie Sterry’s mascot was taller than him
COYR
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I didn’t think he was great. We don’t really play a style that suits him.
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I didn’t think he was great. We don’t really play a style that suits him.
I think that’s an excuse Gaz he was all over the pitch without making good passes without closing their player down without putting any sort of tackle. When he did have the ball especially in the second half he made some passes. But on at least three occasions when an accurate pass was required twice to Rob Street the pass wasn’t good enough if it had been the Rob would have been clear to get his shot away. We make him out to be better than what he is. Yet Clifton comes on and with two / Three accurate passes from out wide he runs on and scores. He also ran like Sbarra but stop play or got the ball.
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Lucky to be anywhere near the side this season imo, certainly won’t be next season.
My Jack Russel will run around chasing a ball all day long but ask it to pass or head it………..
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Doesn't seem to trust Patrick Kelly does he. Yet I'd be playing him every week with Broadbent and Bailey back him up. Kelly moves better with the ball than any of our other central players.
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Doesn't seem to trust Patrick Kelly does he. Yet I'd be playing him every week with Broadbent and Bailey back him up. Kelly moves better with the ball than any of our other central players.
I agree. He’s quality.
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PK just back from international duty, GM originally didn’t think he’d make any time yesterday..
It’s in the DFP online today.
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Sbarra not good enough for me
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I’d like to know what his attributes are?
He went missing for large parts of that game and he hasn’t got a killer ball in him.
Clifton or Kelly from here on, for me.
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It’s the same old revolving door when none of them are really what we wanted
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He’s shockingly awful. It’s like having a little child on the pitch. He’s so weak he couldn’t knock a hen off its nest. He runs around like a dog chasing a ball with never any hope of catching it. He passes a bit but nothing remotely threatening. Offers us nothing.
Then we have his replacement headless Harry. Runs around alot has a bit more physical presence but can’t pass wind.
How have we got to a position where the manager sees our number 10 role as a binary choice between two of the worst players in our squad. They’re hopelessly out of their depth. So effectively we’re taking the field with 10 men week in week out. It’s self inflicted madness. No wonder we’re making a meal of this league.
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I’d like to know what his attributes are?
He went missing for large parts of that game and he hasn’t got a killer ball in him.
Clifton or Kelly from here on, for me.
I couldn't believe he lasted as long as he did, he really should have been hooked at half time. He really doesn't offer much at all.
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What does Westbrooke need to do to get game. Grant is making a rod for his own back for me. Play Westbrooke and then allow Bailey to have some more freedom. I'd play Kelly with these too and then Clifton on the bench as cover.
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Special mention goes to Gibson for looking the most disinterested player to ever play in a big game. Not even giving him the assist for Sharps goal. It was behind him and at a sh!t height. Top class finish.
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What does Westbrooke need to do to get game. Grant is making a rod for his own back for me. Play Westbrooke and then allow Bailey to have some more freedom. I'd play Kelly with these too and then Clifton on the bench as cover.
Been our biggest problem all season the 10 role, not had anybody in there with enough quality on the ball to either help out the midfield or compliment the lone striker.
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It's going to be why we finish in league 2
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Well we do have players who can play the number 10 role.
I still believe we should be playing two central strikers and only one wide player, this may potentially come back and bite Grant at the end of the season.
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What does Westbrooke need to do to get game. Grant is making a rod for his own back for me. Play Westbrooke and then allow Bailey to have some more freedom. I'd play Kelly with these too and then Clifton on the bench as cover.
Not a Westbrook fan but he couldn’t be any worse than Sbarra. Could Crew play that position the midfield has been the problem all season and playing Sbarra makes it worst. Sorry Grant you are getting this position wrong.
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What does Westbrooke need to do to get game. Grant is making a rod for his own back for me. Play Westbrooke and then allow Bailey to have some more freedom. I'd play Kelly with these too and then Clifton on the bench as cover.
Not a Westbrook fan but he couldn’t be any worse than Sbarra. Could Crew play that position the midfield has been the problem all season and playing Sbarra makes it worst. Sorry Grant you are getting this position wrong.
I think Kelly could play there.
Don’t need to elaborate on Sbarra it’s all in #8.
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I’d like to know what his attributes are?
He went missing for large parts of that game and he hasn’t got a killer ball in him.
Clifton or Kelly from here on, for me.
Clifton? Really? Looked like a competition winner last night. So little quality.
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Special mention goes to Gibson for looking the most disinterested player to ever play in a big game. Not even giving him the assist for Sharps goal. It was behind him and at a sh!t height. Top class finish.
It was a good cross in the right area and he almost scored in the 1st half but their keeper made a good save.
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We missed with the 3rdcentre midfielder role this season; from Kelly (who's got promise) to Crew who's what??? Close, Zain, Hurst, Sabara and Clifton (who I see as a good squad member) but all have lacked.
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Agree on the sentiment regarding sbarra.
He isn't good enough. Really was hoping he had turned a corner. Not.
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Special mention goes to Gibson for looking the most disinterested player to ever play in a big game. Not even giving him the assist for Sharps goal. It was behind him and at a sh!t height. Top class finish.
It was a good cross in the right area and he almost scored in the 1st half but their keeper made a good save.
Clifton can do some good things and has got on the end of things but he is limited what he can do with very little skill to match his endeavour. So yes, he is better than Sbarra on his showing in the last two games.
As said above, we've tried a number of players in that position but none have the all round qualities that would make the difference.
Kelly can run with the ball and ghost past players but he's not really someone who can put his foot on the ball and pick a pass. Very similar to Hurst going forward.
I think Crew and Ennis could do a job in there and might be worth a go.
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Special mention goes to Gibson for looking the most disinterested player to ever play in a big game. Not even giving him the assist for Sharps goal. It was behind him and at a sh!t height. Top class finish.
I disagree about the quality of the assist, and Gibson did have a good shot with the outside of his right foot in the first half which was well-saved.
However, when I watch the replay of their first goal last night, it's quite shocking to see Gibson's reaction when he loses the ball on half-way. A very half-hearted attempt to chase after it and try to win it back. He just trots for a while then gives up and watches as they score.
I'm sure Grant will have been very unhappy about that. Surely that's the minimum we require of a player when he loses the ball? And isn't that one of the reasons why Kyle has been sent up to Scotland?
I know that tracking back is 'not part of his game' but bloody hell Gibbo, at least show some effort to put right your mistake.
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Special mention goes to Gibson for looking the most disinterested player to ever play in a big game. Not even giving him the assist for Sharps goal. It was behind him and at a sh!t height. Top class finish.
It was a good cross in the right area and he almost scored in the 1st half but their keeper made a good save.
Clifton can do some good things and has got on the end of things but he is limited what he can do with very little skill to match his endeavour. So yes, he is better than Sbarra on his showing in the last two games.
As said above, we've tried a number of players in that position but none have the all round qualities that would make the difference.
Kelly can run with the ball and ghost past players but he's not really someone who can put his foot on the ball and pick a pass. Very similar to Hurst going forward.
I think Crew and Ennis could do a job in there and might be worth a go.
Gibson can play there and has done for previous clubs.
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Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.
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Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.
Bailey, Broadbent and Sbarra all had nearly identical pass completion %ages.
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We missed with the 3rdcentre midfielder role this season; from Kelly (who's got promise) to Crew who's what??? Close, Zain, Hurst, Sabara and Clifton (who I see as a good squad member) but all have lacked.
Westbrook looked lively earlier in the season and was very tidy on the ball, also has the ability to move the ball quickly so don't understand his current situation. Surely if there's a falling out he wouldn't even be making the bench ?!
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39 league games in and this area is still a problem. Comment above further up about Kelly not picking out passes. Sbarra and Clifton don't do that either!
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Look after my sisters dog a couple of times a year. A miniature Schnauzer, lovely little dog. Small, soft as anything and loves chasing a ball. Trouble is he’s no idea what to do with it if/when he gets it.
Reminds me very much of sbarra. Bet he’s a lovely lad, but for me he’s not up to the job and every time he starts, it’s like playing with 10 men.
There’s another 2 or 3 you could add to that that summary I may add, and I think this is where we could fall short, carrying to many players in games
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Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.
Bailey, Broadbent and Sbarra all had nearly identical pass completion %ages.
But that is supposed be Sbarra strength because he doesn’t tackle doesn’t close any opposing players down. He runs about but didn’t intercept the ball didn’t stop oppposing players from getting the ball.
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I don't like criticising players as it's a team game but he does give the impression that he's doing more than he actually is.
If he was brought in for his vision and delivering killer balls and opening teams up in the vital final third then he falls short for me.
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Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.
Bailey, Broadbent and Sbarra all had nearly identical pass completion %ages.
But that is supposed be Sbarra strength because he doesn’t tackle doesn’t close any opposing players down. He runs about but didn’t intercept the ball didn’t stop oppposing players from getting the ball.
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Sounds like Senior- sorry we're not discussing him are we - but he's possibly even worse, particularly as he's a defender. You could say that Bailey was the only rounded midfielder we have on the permanent staff. Why borrow Kelly and Crew and not use them? Clifton at least has power and directness. A man of Sbarra's stature needs above-average ball control or speed to compensate. I was truly surprised when it became apparent that he had neither.
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Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.
give over lad. You have to be on the wind up here. He couldn’t tackle a fish supper. He never got near an oppo player.
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Goals scored by our opponents have come from Gibson losing the ball or making a poor pass around halfway on several occasions recently.
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Goals scored by our opponents have come from Gibson losing the ball or making a poor pass around halfway on several occasions recently.
There were plenty of opportunity to stop the goal between him giving the ball away on the half way line and the header going in.
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Goals scored by our opponents have come from Gibson losing the ball or making a poor pass around halfway on several occasions recently.
There were plenty of opportunity to stop the goal between him giving the ball away on the half way line and the header going in.
The pass to Gibson was not a good one in that a Walsall defender was in the best position to receive it with Gibson needing to take it from behind him, so it was not really even a 50-50 ball. The player who had the best chance to stop the resulting cross was Senior who who chose to stand off their winger rather than put in a tackle who then crossed the ball. He repeating what he had done a little earlier when the cross came to nothing, but this time the header was superbly directed inside TSL's right hand post. Senior doesn't seem to tackle and rarely passes the ball forwards, so his role is very limited to say the least.
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Goals scored by our opponents have come from Gibson losing the ball or making a poor pass around halfway on several occasions recently.
There were plenty of opportunity to stop the goal between him giving the ball away on the half way line and the header going in.
I’m not disputing that Gaz but the point I made is still relevant.
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Patrick Kelly must be kicking balls in to Sandall Beat Woods all week in training. Having watched Clifton and Sbarra contribution it's truly baffling. Clifton doesn't actually do much off the ball either. Often late and never wins the ball anyway.
Must be a rule to have only 1 risk taking player in the team and Gibson is getting that role at the minute.
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Quite a bit of criticism of Clifton on here which I think is unfair.
You certainly can't bracket him together with Sbarra in my opinion.
At least Clifton has some physicality about him and does get into dangerous positions.
And he has weighed in with League 5 goals this season.
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Clifton head and shoulders above Sbarra, who is absolutely dreadful. I cringe every time his name is on the team sheet.
Re No10 role Hurst was played there most of pre-season and looked very decent. Ironside also could surely do a role as a deep striker playing with either Sharp or Street. Why Grant can’t see this is a puzzle.
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My issue with starting Clifton is his tackling. Always seems to collect a yellow then it’s tightrope time until he’s invariably hooked.
We have being under the cosh far too many games with going down to 10 maybe GMC is of a similar opinion in lowering the chances
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My issue with starting Clifton is his tackling. Always seems to collect a yellow then it’s tightrope time until he’s invariably hooked.
We have being under the cosh far too many games with going down to 10 maybe GMC is of a similar opinion in lowering the chances
Yeah, at least we don't need to worry about Sbarra getting booked for a bad tackle!
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My issue with starting Clifton is his tackling. Always seems to collect a yellow then it’s tightrope time until he’s invariably hooked.
We have being under the cosh far too many games with going down to 10 maybe GMC is of a similar opinion in lowering the chances
It’s not just Clifton though is it? It’s not uncommon for us to pick two yellow cards in the first quarter. Refs used to be loth to book players early on, but more recently such leniency is not generally extended. It’s hardly something that management and analysts could overlook.
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Agreed but other players do tend to tone things down a little, every time HC goes into a challenge it could be a booking
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How many of us wanted him to go to the corner instead of shooting for that 2nd goal.
Good lad
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Lucky he didn’t get sent off , should’ve been booked before his booking, clever foul but lucky to get away with it .
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Good of McCann to play with 10 men and even it up today bringing on Clifton and Sbarra
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Good of McCann to play with 10 men and even it up today bringing on Clifton and Sbarra
I don't get it. I don't understand the negativity towards our own players in a title/promotion run in.
Let alone one where Sbara got an assist for the 2nd.
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Good of McCann to play with 10 men and even it up today bringing on Clifton and Sbarra
I don't get it. I don't understand the negativity towards our own players in a title/promotion run in.
Let alone one where Sbara got an assist for the 2nd.
Does it count as an assist when the goalkeeper parries his shot away?
Not that it matters because we have Street who runs for all ‘lost causes’ where others may have let it go out for a corner he whips in a goal from a tight angle.
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Good of McCann to play with 10 men and even it up today bringing on Clifton and Sbarra
I don't get it. I don't understand the negativity towards our own players in a title/promotion run in.
Let alone one where Sbara got an assist for the 2nd.
Does it count as an assist when the goalkeeper parries his shot away?
Not that it matters because we have Street who runs for all ‘lost causes’ where others may have let it go out for a corner he whips in a goal from a tight angle.
It doesn’t count as an assist when the keeper stops a shot and someone scores from the rebound.
Crazy isn’t it.
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Thank god another Joe missed the easiest chance to score that I’ve ever seen.
No Ironside thread then??, Sbarra has been fantastic compared to this Joe this season.
Weird isn’t it?
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Thank god another Joe missed the easiest chance to score that I’ve ever seen.
No Ironside thread then??, Sbarra has been fantastic compared to this Joe this season.
Weird isn’t it?
how ironside missed the goal was unbelievable one of the worst I have seen
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Thank god another Joe missed the easiest chance to score that I’ve ever seen.
No Ironside thread then??, Sbarra has been fantastic compared to this Joe this season.
Weird isn’t it?
how ironside missed the goal was unbelievable one of the worst I have seen
Anyone who has ever played regularly as a striker will have missed a chance like that.
It happens.
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Fine missing chances like that if you’ve got 15+ for the season, otherwise, it’s not very good is it?
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Not going to have 15 for the season is he with the number of starts he's had
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Missing the point…Sbarra gets slagged off with his own thread, despite finding his usual excellent ‘pocket of space’ in the final moments and being brave not going to the corner flag, and creates an amazing moment for the 638 fans resulting in a goal.
We had a clown on here not long ago saying we should get rid of Molly. Another Clown saying how sh*T Sterry is. Clifton gets pelters……So why no Ironside thread?
Seems some players are picked on, obsessively.
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Thank god another Joe missed the easiest chance to score that I’ve ever seen.
No Ironside thread then??, Sbarra has been fantastic compared to this Joe this season.
Weird isn’t it?
how ironside missed the goal was unbelievable one of the worst I have seen
I read this and instantly thought of this ..
https://youtu.be/dJ0Zyj4pYnc?feature=shared
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Sbarra in the Walsall game looked like a mascot had been allowed to play. Stood in between their defence and midfield watching the ball go past him. It’s not his fault he’s so small but he has no presence whatsoever on the pitch. Normally your small players are lightning fast, tricky and can slide a ball through in behind. He hasn’t got any of them attributes whatsoever and in my opinion non-league is his level, just like Ethan Ennis, how he got in the Man U academy I’ll never know.
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Same way as Barlow.
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I'm a Sbarra doubter but when he came on yesterday he did make a difference. Kelly's nonchalant, not caring attitude, was very frustrating in the first half - send him back to West Ham with our best wishes.
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I'm a Sbarra doubter but when he came on yesterday he did make a difference. Kelly's nonchalant, not caring attitude, was very frustrating in the first half - send him back to West Ham with our best wishes.
You don’t get to be at a Prem club and playing league football at 20 if you go out there not to try.
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I thought Kelly was decent yesterday.
I’d like to think he’s a player we might be able to pick up permanently and develop.
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I thought Kelly was decent yesterday.
I’d like to think he’s a player we might be able to pick up permanently and develop.
Thought he went AWOL.
Opinions eh.
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It feels like whoever is a possibility for that 3rd/advanced midfield slot has their reputation enhanced by their absence. We’ve been chopping and changing all season and never had a player get a good run there; maybe the reason is that none of them are good enough.
Kelly starts. “He doesn’t have an eye for a pass like Sbarra, who’s much more creative. Get him in”
Sbarra starts. “He’s too small and lightweight. Goes missing for too much of the game. We need Clifton’s energy and ability to get into the box”
Clifton starts. “Absolute clogger. We need someone who actually has footballing ability”
Etc etc.
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It feels like whoever is a possibility for that 3rd/advanced midfield slot has their reputation enhanced by their absence. We’ve been chopping and changing all season and never had a player get a good run there; maybe the reason is that none of them are good enough.
Kelly starts. “He doesn’t have an eye for a pass like Sbarra, who’s much more creative. Get him in”
Sbarra starts. “He’s too small and lightweight. Goes missing for too much of the game. We need Clifton’s energy and ability to get into the box”
Clifton starts. “Absolute clogger. We need someone who actually has footballing ability”
Etc etc.
It's the same with ex-players, strange bunch our lot lol. There were a few around me on Saturday talking about George Miller like he was the one that got away.
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I thought Kelly was decent yesterday.
I’d like to think he’s a player we might be able to pick up permanently and develop.
Thought he went AWOL.
Opinions eh.
Kelly was one of only 2 players in the first half at Cheltenham (Sharp being the other) to come out with any credit in that first 45. You honestly must watch the game with your eyes closed.
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Thank god another Joe missed the easiest chance to score that I’ve ever seen.
No Ironside thread then??, Sbarra has been fantastic compared to this Joe this season.
Weird isn’t it?
how ironside missed the goal was unbelievable one of the worst I have seen
I take it that you weren’t at Scunthorpe when Golden Boy Marquis missed that sitter.
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I thought Kelly was decent yesterday.
I’d like to think he’s a player we might be able to pick up permanently and develop.
Thought he went AWOL.
Opinions eh.
Kelly was one of only 2 players in the first half at Cheltenham (Sharp being the other) to come out with any credit in that first 45. You honestly must watch the game with your eyes closed.
And you must watch it ‘doing the Poznan’ after that statement.
Only Molyneaux came out with ‘any credit’ that first half in my opinion.
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What’s ‘happened’ to Charlie Crew?
He was lauded by McCann after his first couple of games but has rarely featured recently.
Lack of ‘engagement’ in training?
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Crew will be a really good player, as Kelly could be as well, but have only played mainly the staid everyone plays the same way u21s football.
Both would have been far better off having a season in National League or National League North/South men's football
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What’s ‘happened’ to Charlie Crew?
He was lauded by McCann after his first couple of games but has rarely featured recently.
Lack of ‘engagement’ in training?
Hes got the ability to pass the ball Strictly forbidden in our team!
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League two football doesn’t suit him, lower down the pyramid would suit him even less.
I’d he’d gone to a league one team he’d be playing every week and doing well.
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League two football doesn’t suit him, lower down the pyramid would suit him even less.
I’d he’d gone to a league one team he’d be playing every week and doing well.
My thoughts exactly
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League two football doesn’t suit him, lower down the pyramid would suit him even less.
I’d he’d gone to a league one team he’d be playing every week and doing well.
I love satire
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League two football doesn’t suit him, lower down the pyramid would suit him even less.
I’d he’d gone to a league one team he’d be playing every week and doing well.
League 1 is far more physical and fast pace than L2. The championship faster and more physical than L1.
You could apply the same logic to Matty Craig and he’s been poor at Mansfield.
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League two football doesn’t suit him, lower down the pyramid would suit him even less.
I’d he’d gone to a league one team he’d be playing every week and doing well.
He was sensational in the Conference. League 1 is far more physical and fast pace than L2. The championship faster and more physical than L1.
Pretty sure he was talking about Charlie Crew given the posts immediately above it.
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League two football doesn’t suit him, lower down the pyramid would suit him even less.
I’d he’d gone to a league one team he’d be playing every week and doing well.
League 1 is far more physical and fast pace than L2. The championship faster and more physical than L1.
You could apply the same logic to Matty Craig and he’s been poor at Mansfield.
Exactly. I don’t know where people have got this myth from.
McCann said Close will be “outstanding” at League One level so has sent him out to the National League. Make it make sense.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/may-sound-crazy-grant-mccann-makes-big-ben-close-prediction-after-recent-doncaster-rovers-exit-4970910
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League two football doesn’t suit him, lower down the pyramid would suit him even less.
I’d he’d gone to a league one team he’d be playing every week and doing well.
League 1 is far more physical and fast pace than L2. The championship faster and more physical than L1.
You could apply the same logic to Matty Craig and he’s been poor at Mansfield.
Exactly. I don’t know where people have got this myth from.
McCann said Close will be “outstanding” at League One level so has sent him out to the National League. Make it make sense.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/may-sound-crazy-grant-mccann-makes-big-ben-close-prediction-after-recent-doncaster-rovers-exit-4970910
Just being kind I think.
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League two football doesn’t suit him, lower down the pyramid would suit him even less.
I’d he’d gone to a league one team he’d be playing every week and doing well.
League 1 is far more physical and fast pace than L2. The championship faster and more physical than L1.
You could apply the same logic to Matty Craig and he’s been poor at Mansfield.
Exactly. I don’t know where people have got this myth from.
McCann said Close will be “outstanding” at League One level so has sent him out to the National League. Make it make sense.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/may-sound-crazy-grant-mccann-makes-big-ben-close-prediction-after-recent-doncaster-rovers-exit-4970910
If you can play, you can play. You may play in teams that play a style that don’t suit you for example but what about Crowley when he was at county? Unbelievable player. He’s small and technical. What about Coppinger when he was in L2? Liam Kelly last season? Turi who Grimsby have just signed from abroad? All look silky as you like in L2.
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Of course better footballers look better the higher level they go,
League two is full of teams who aren’t interested in playing football they just want to stop anyone who is any good from showing they’re good footballers. Add into that the state of most pitches in league 2 and it’s far from the ideal level.
Crowley struggled early in his career too, hence why he found himself as a trialist.
Crew is a better player than Crowley, future will show that.
The higher level you go the more time you get on the ball add into that playing with better players, close was better for us in league 1 even in a far worse team than now
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I beg to differ. Any one who has played football at any level knows that there are some players who are gifted with skills far beyond the average. The only mitigating factor is temperament. All this talk of they being more suited to a higher level is manager speak / gobshite / rhetoric.
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I beg to differ. Any one who has played football at any level knows that there are some players who are gifted with skills far beyond the average. The only mitigating factor is temperament. All this talk of they being more suited to a higher level is manager speak / gobshite / rhetoric.
It’s obviously opinion, but I played to a decent level and centre midfield and enjoyed it much more at the higher level than I did playing against low standard opposition who gave you no time on the ball and couldn’t play themselves.
I suppose it depends on what type of player you are, but players like crew, close, etc in my
Opinion are better suited to a higher standard than league 2
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I beg to differ. Any one who has played football at any level knows that there are some players who are gifted with skills far beyond the average. The only mitigating factor is temperament. All this talk of they being more suited to a higher level is manager speak / gobshite / rhetoric.
It’s obviously opinion, but I played to a decent level and centre midfield and enjoyed it much more at the higher level than I did playing against low standard opposition who gave you no time on the ball and couldn’t play themselves.
I suppose it depends on what type of player you are, but players like crew, close, etc in my
Opinion are better suited to a higher standard than league 2
Looking over your past posts dickos I think we might well have played against one another in our youth or competed unwittingly for the same midfield berth (Doncaster Boys?) whatever, I agree with you in as much as ‘good players’ become ‘better players’ playing at either a higher level or with/against better opposition.
Brian Stock was ‘stand out’ in midfield in Lg1. In the Championship he was sublime.
Do I think his ‘ghosting’ past players, his vision, his ‘cleverness’ on the ball & his shooting prowess would have made him a ‘stand out player’ in Lg2?
Absolutely.
Class is absolute.
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I beg to differ. Any one who has played football at any level knows that there are some players who are gifted with skills far beyond the average. The only mitigating factor is temperament. All this talk of they being more suited to a higher level is manager speak / gobshite / rhetoric.
It’s obviously opinion, but I played to a decent level and centre midfield and enjoyed it much more at the higher level than I did playing against low standard opposition who gave you no time on the ball and couldn’t play themselves.
I suppose it depends on what type of player you are, but players like crew, close, etc in my
Opinion are better suited to a higher standard than league 2
Almost as if you're saying the squad should've been constructed with two eyes getting out of the division first. In your opinion dickos1 how many of our squad aren't suitable for league 2 in the way you suggest?
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I’m talking about a specific type of player!
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I beg to differ. Any one who has played football at any level knows that there are some players who are gifted with skills far beyond the average. The only mitigating factor is temperament. All this talk of they being more suited to a higher level is manager speak / gobshite / rhetoric.
It’s obviously opinion, but I played to a decent level and centre midfield and enjoyed it much more at the higher level than I did playing against low standard opposition who gave you no time on the ball and couldn’t play themselves.
I suppose it depends on what type of player you are, but players like crew, close, etc in my
Opinion are better suited to a higher standard than league 2
Looking over your past posts dickos I think we might well have played against one another in our youth or competed unwittingly for the same midfield berth (Doncaster Boys?) whatever, I agree with you in as much as ‘good players’ become ‘better players’ playing at either a higher level or with/against better opposition.
Brian Stock was ‘stand out’ in midfield in Lg1. In the Championship he was sublime.
Do I think his ‘ghosting’ past players, his vision, his ‘cleverness’ on the ball & his shooting prowess would have made him a ‘stand out player’ in Lg2?
Absolutely.
Class is absolute.
Maybe mate,
What’s your name?
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I beg to differ. Any one who has played football at any level knows that there are some players who are gifted with skills far beyond the average. The only mitigating factor is temperament. All this talk of they being more suited to a higher level is manager speak / gobshite / rhetoric.
It’s obviously opinion, but I played to a decent level and centre midfield and enjoyed it much more at the higher level than I did playing against low standard opposition who gave you no time on the ball and couldn’t play themselves.
I suppose it depends on what type of player you are, but players like crew, close, etc in my
Opinion are better suited to a higher standard than league 2
Looking over your past posts dickos I think we might well have played against one another in our youth or competed unwittingly for the same midfield berth (Doncaster Boys?) whatever, I agree with you in as much as ‘good players’ become ‘better players’ playing at either a higher level or with/against better opposition.
Brian Stock was ‘stand out’ in midfield in Lg1. In the Championship he was sublime.
Do I think his ‘ghosting’ past players, his vision, his ‘cleverness’ on the ball & his shooting prowess would have made him a ‘stand out player’ in Lg2?
Absolutely.
Class is absolute.
Maybe mate,
What’s your name?
Don't tell him Pike!
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Came on today and was very successful at passing to Anderson today