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Title: Maxwell
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 12, 2025, 05:15:32 pm
Broke a toe, then played, now out again, any news what's up and if ever back?
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: GazLaz on April 12, 2025, 05:16:24 pm
Broke a toe, then played, now out again, any news what's up and if ever back?

Fit to play according to GM.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: ChrisBx on April 12, 2025, 05:17:12 pm
We could do with him. Senior is pretty good defensively, but we really lack attacking width with him and Sterry.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 12, 2025, 05:31:56 pm
Broke a toe, then played, now out again, any news what's up and if ever back?

Fit to play according to GM.

Wow if true shocking he's not playing
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: i_ateallthepies on April 12, 2025, 05:32:55 pm
Senior is a trier but he's anything but good defensively.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: oggycompton on April 12, 2025, 05:34:35 pm
Maxwell should be playing and crew should be playing. I’m sorry but if Clifton and Wood are the answer we have absolutely no chance. Crew as bewildered as I was when I asked him if he was injured and he said no, just not picked.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Ian Nimmo on April 12, 2025, 05:37:34 pm
Senior improved second half, but thought he was poor in the first due to too many mistakes.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 12, 2025, 05:39:32 pm
Senior isn't a wing back.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Barmby Rover on April 12, 2025, 06:19:57 pm
Senior was transformed in the second half, after GM had spoken to him, he began running down the wing and trying to add into attacks.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: redarmi66 on April 12, 2025, 06:26:52 pm
Broke a toe, then played, now out again, any news what's up and if ever back?

Fit to play according to GM.

Wow if true shocking he's not playing
Well we have 3 games in 7 days coming up. If fit im sure we will see him. This is where the squad needs to be utilised. we have some players who should be fresh for this time of the season!
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Goole Rover on April 12, 2025, 06:38:58 pm
Senior is a trier but he's anything but good defensively.
I agree with I just can’t understand where Chrisbx gets his opinion from.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Usher wide. on April 12, 2025, 10:17:45 pm
Senior was transformed in the second half, after GM had spoken to him, he began running down the wing and trying to add into attacks.

Too little too late given Senior was over on GM’s side of the pitch first half, why wasn’t he given those instructions by GM while the sending off & ‘injury’ to Wombles keeper (which took up all of THREE minutes added on time) were being attended to?
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Move DRFC on April 12, 2025, 11:56:44 pm
Maxwell was absolutely levels above league two during that run last season. Him returning as a starter was as important as TLT, Craig, Adelakun etc.

He’s streets ahead of Senior and has to play if he’s fit.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: rtid88 on April 13, 2025, 02:01:21 am
Senior is terrible as a full back. Not sure i have seen him stop a cross. Reasonable going forward but have no idea why he was given a new deal. Very average league 2 player like the vast majority of our squad.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Ryaldinhio on April 13, 2025, 02:04:24 am
Senior is terrible as a full back. Not sure i have seen him stop a cross. Reasonable going forward but have no idea why he was given a new deal. Very average league 2 player like the vast majority of our squad.

Versatility? He was signed as a LCB. We will have McGrath next season, Wood likely gone. So Senior becomes back up LCB amd back up LB?

He isn't first choice but we need a squad.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: rtid88 on April 13, 2025, 02:07:37 am
A decision made on us not going up to League 1? As he certainly isn't League 1 quality?
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Jersey Rover on April 13, 2025, 02:17:38 pm
Need to look at these positions next season. Maxwell to fragile, never available, Joe maybe/maybe not here next season, Woody coming to the end, TSL loan finished decisions around the other defensive squad players need to be addressed that’s before midfield and up front which also requires an overall. Depending on where we finish, could be a busy summer transfer window.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 13, 2025, 04:39:49 pm
Senior is a good squad player for L2. But if Maxwell is actually fit and available it’s stupidity not to play him imo. He’s obviously the better player. Can only hope it’s caution so he’s properly back fit before playing again.

As for Crew it’s just another weird decision with our midfielders. Sign up Close & Westbrooke and dump them immediately. Sign Kelly and eventually stop playing him. Drop Broadbent for the loanee but eventually realise he’s better. Sign an apparently prodigy in Crew, the way he was talked about, barely play him. TB must shudder when GM says he needs to sign a midfielder. How much money to someone who won’t play this time!?
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: GazLaz on April 13, 2025, 04:42:57 pm
Senior is a good squad player for L2. But if Maxwell is actually fit and available it’s stupidity not to play him imo. He’s obviously the better player. Can only hope it’s caution so he’s properly back fit before playing again.

As for Crew it’s just another weird decision with our midfielders. Sign up Close & Westbrooke and dump them immediately. Sign Kelly and eventually stop playing him. Drop Broadbent for the loanee but eventually realise he’s better. Sign an apparently prodigy in Crew, the way he was talked about, barely play him. TB must shudder when GM says he needs to sign a midfielder. How much money to someone who won’t play this time!?

It’s like they don’t truly know how good the players they are signing are. Yeboah, Ennis, Crew… zero impact and all got bigged up massively.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: ForsolongaRover on April 13, 2025, 06:44:23 pm
Senior is a good squad player for L2. But if Maxwell is actually fit and available it’s stupidity not to play him imo. He’s obviously the better player. Can only hope it’s caution so he’s properly back fit before playing again.

As for Crew it’s just another weird decision with our midfielders. Sign up Close & Westbrooke and dump them immediately. Sign Kelly and eventually stop playing him. Drop Broadbent for the loanee but eventually realise he’s better. Sign an apparently prodigy in Crew, the way he was talked about, barely play him. TB must shudder when GM says he needs to sign a midfielder. How much money to someone who won’t play this time!?

It’s like they don’t truly know how good the players they are signing are. Yeboah, Ennis, Crew… zero impact and all got bigged up massively.

It’s another strange quirk of the McCann management system. You sign loanees knowing that they have little experience in men’s football. But the objective is to utilise potential talent which exceeds that of the players you already have in their positions. Surely it’s then a risk/reward situation. And you could interpret McCann’s lack of use of Crew and more recently of Kelly as a fear of taking a risk for a reward. When you think of the mediocrity that he tolerates from some of his regular “safe” substitutions, it is difficult to admire his style.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: monkeytennis on April 13, 2025, 08:47:14 pm
Senior is terrible as a full back. Not sure i have seen him stop a cross. Reasonable going forward but have no idea why he was given a new deal. Very average league 2 player like the vast majority of our squad.

Yes this, watched opposition players trot past him twice yesterday and put a cross in. Second half he made some great runs and has real pace too.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Goole Rover on April 13, 2025, 08:54:23 pm
Senior is terrible as a full back. Not sure i have seen him stop a cross. Reasonable going forward but have no idea why he was given a new deal. Very average league 2 player like the vast majority of our squad.

Yes this, watched opposition players trot past him twice yesterday and put a cross in. Second half he made some great runs and has real pace too.
Good going forward but a liability in defence.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: drfchound on April 13, 2025, 08:57:03 pm
Senior is terrible as a full back. Not sure i have seen him stop a cross. Reasonable going forward but have no idea why he was given a new deal. Very average league 2 player like the vast majority of our squad.

Yes this, watched opposition players trot past him twice yesterday and put a cross in. Second half he made some great runs and has real pace too.

He did make some great runs down the left but invariably our lads hardly ever got themselves into good positions to receive a good ball from him which left him very few decent options and more often than not he had to play square or backwards.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: dickos1 on April 13, 2025, 09:54:13 pm
Senior is a good squad player for L2. But if Maxwell is actually fit and available it’s stupidity not to play him imo. He’s obviously the better player. Can only hope it’s caution so he’s properly back fit before playing again.

As for Crew it’s just another weird decision with our midfielders. Sign up Close & Westbrooke and dump them immediately. Sign Kelly and eventually stop playing him. Drop Broadbent for the loanee but eventually realise he’s better. Sign an apparently prodigy in Crew, the way he was talked about, barely play him. TB must shudder when GM says he needs to sign a midfielder. How much money to someone who won’t play this time!?

It’s like they don’t truly know how good the players they are signing are. Yeboah, Ennis, Crew… zero impact and all got bigged up massively.

It’s another strange quirk of the McCann management system. You sign loanees knowing that they have little experience in men’s football. But the objective is to utilise potential talent which exceeds that of the players you already have in their positions. Surely it’s then a risk/reward situation. And you could interpret McCann’s lack of use of Crew and more recently of Kelly as a fear of taking a risk for a reward. When you think of the mediocrity that he tolerates from some of his regular “safe” substitutions, it is difficult to admire his style.

You really don’t like McCann do you?
We’ve signed a few players over the years with little or no league experience,
Maxwell, McGrath, craig, Kane, Bailey, molyneux, hurst, Lo-Tutala, Wilks, Broadbent, being the best of them.
It’s definitely a risk worth taking if we get some of these along the way
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Pancho Regan on April 13, 2025, 11:15:12 pm
I hate to be a purveyor of doom but I seriously worry whether Maxwell will ever get back to his best.

He has a metal screw in his foot which pre-dates all his foot problems this season and is a legacy from his foot fracture last season.

I really hope I’m wrong but I’ve been worried about his fitness for months now.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: steve@dcfd on April 14, 2025, 08:00:02 am
The first half when Wimbledon had 11 men Senior had to stay further back as they had two men coming down the right side. Their goal came from Wood coming out to defend on the left but unfortunately Anderson came across to leave us open in the middle. The situation eased when they went to 10 men.
It also doesn’t help when Senior has Gibson infront of him as he goes inside and doesn’t come back often to double up.
Second half Senior was going forward more and it was him that put in the odd “left” foot cross because Gibson doesn’t or can’t.
So when Maxwell is fit and plays 100% then we look a better attacking force. The problem is we’ve not seen that from him this season either because of fitness or we don’t have a Craig or Adelulaken around him both players or their equivalent we have missed.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: ForsolongaRover on April 14, 2025, 10:43:12 am
Senior is a good squad player for L2. But if Maxwell is actually fit and available it’s stupidity not to play him imo. He’s obviously the better player. Can only hope it’s caution so he’s properly back fit before playing again.

As for Crew it’s just another weird decision with our midfielders. Sign up Close & Westbrooke and dump them immediately. Sign Kelly and eventually stop playing him. Drop Broadbent for the loanee but eventually realise he’s better. Sign an apparently prodigy in Crew, the way he was talked about, barely play him. TB must shudder when GM says he needs to sign a midfielder. How much money to someone who won’t play this time!?

It’s like they don’t truly know how good the players they are signing are. Yeboah, Ennis, Crew… zero impact and all got bigged up massively.

It’s another strange quirk of the McCann management system. You sign loanees knowing that they have little experience in men’s football. But the objective is to utilise potential talent which exceeds that of the players you already have in their positions. Surely it’s then a risk/reward situation. And you could interpret McCann’s lack of use of Crew and more recently of Kelly as a fear of taking a risk for a reward. When you think of the mediocrity that he tolerates from some of his regular “safe” substitutions, it is difficult to admire his style.

You really don’t like McCann do you?
We’ve signed a few players over the years with little or no league experience,
Maxwell, McGrath, craig, Kane, Bailey, molyneux, hurst, Lo-Tutala, Wilks, Broadbent, being the best of them.
It’s definitely a risk worth taking if we get some of these along the way

Why suggest I do not like McCann? What bearing does that have on the point I am making? I can question someone’s decision-making or point of view irrespective of whether I like them or not. My point is about providing loanees with opportunities. I don’t understand how your comment relates to that.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: dickos1 on April 14, 2025, 11:09:19 am
Because almost every post you have made over the last 20 months or so is tinged in negativity towards him.
It’s a pretty obvious observation
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 14, 2025, 11:52:12 am
Steve@dcfd:

It also doesn’t help when Senior has Gibson infront of him as he goes inside and doesn’t come back often to double up.

Absolutely bang on the money, which is why some people have suggested Gibson as a 2nd striker, rather than a winger. GM would have to change to a 3-5-2 but we’ve only got 3 centre backs and 2 of them aren’t 100%. And, we’d need Maxwell back firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: scawsby steve on April 14, 2025, 05:25:35 pm
Senior is better as a LCB, particularly in a back 3, as evidenced at Bradford.

He's excellent in the air.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: ForsolongaRover on April 14, 2025, 05:29:08 pm
Because almost every post you have made over the last 20 months or so is tinged in negativity towards him.
It’s a pretty obvious observation

As this is a forum dedicated to Doncaster Rovers, it is of no value to readers to hear your opinion of me, even less so when it has no evidential basis whatsoever.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: dickos1 on April 14, 2025, 05:39:59 pm
Because almost every post you have made over the last 20 months or so is tinged in negativity towards him.
It’s a pretty obvious observation

As this is a forum dedicated to Doncaster Rovers, it is of no value to readers to hear your opinion of me, even less so when it has no evidential basis whatsoever.

You asked me a question, two questions in fact!
If you didn’t want to know the answer you shouldn’t of asked the question
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Goole Rover on April 14, 2025, 05:53:56 pm
Senior is better as a LCB, particularly in a back 3, as evidenced at Bradford.

He's excellent in the air.
What at 5'- 8"  and that's being generous.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: scawsby steve on April 14, 2025, 06:10:19 pm
Senior is better as a LCB, particularly in a back 3, as evidenced at Bradford.

He's excellent in the air.
What at 5'- 8"  and that's being generous.

Exactly, which just shows how good his technique is. Some players have an uncanny ability to leap high. Kevin Keegan was one of the best headers of a ball I've ever seen, and how tall was he?

Were you at Bradford, our best performance of the season?
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Lesonthewest on April 14, 2025, 06:10:42 pm
Because almost every post you have made over the last 20 months or so is tinged in negativity towards him.
It’s a pretty obvious observation

As this is a forum dedicated to Doncaster Rovers, it is of no value to readers to hear your opinion of me, even less so when it has no evidential basis whatsoever.

He has history of making things up, & throwing out petty insults.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: drfchound on April 14, 2025, 06:39:44 pm
Senior is better as a LCB, particularly in a back 3, as evidenced at Bradford.

He's excellent in the air.
What at 5'- 8"  and that's being generous.

Exactly, which just shows how good his technique is. Some players have an uncanny ability to leap high. Kevin Keegan was one of the best headers of a ball I've ever seen, and how tall was he?

Were you at Bradford, our best performance of the season?

Denis Law was a player of no great size but he got up so high (and appeared to hover there) to head the ball into the net.
It always amazed me.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: DearneValleyRover on April 14, 2025, 06:51:50 pm
Copps wasn’t bad in air either
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: dickos1 on April 14, 2025, 06:52:17 pm
Because almost every post you have made over the last 20 months or so is tinged in negativity towards him.
It’s a pretty obvious observation

As this is a forum dedicated to Doncaster Rovers, it is of no value to readers to hear your opinion of me, even less so when it has no evidential basis whatsoever.

He has history of making things up, & throwing out petty insults.

Yawn
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 14, 2025, 07:14:21 pm
Tim Cahill is an inch taller than Senior and is on the top 10 list for most headed Premier League goals ever.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: ncRover on April 14, 2025, 07:21:57 pm
Tim Cahill is an inch taller than Senior and is on the top 10 list for most headed Premier League goals ever.

Argh you beat me to it! Unbelievable header of the ball.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: GazLaz on April 14, 2025, 08:19:39 pm
Gary Speed was class in the air as well.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: scawsby steve on April 14, 2025, 08:31:10 pm
Come to think of it, Owen Bailey isn't all that tall, and he's a good header of the ball.

In fact, if Woody and Jay are both injured, which some people are fearing they may be, then either Bailey or Senior will have to slot in alongside Tom.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: drfchound on April 14, 2025, 08:39:49 pm
You just beat me to it (about Bailey) mate.
He has been stand in CB this season and been very good there.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 14, 2025, 09:56:26 pm
A bit different been dominant in the air as a centre half than a midfielder making runs into the box. Much harder to get clean contact when a centre forward is trying to pin you.

On that front Butler is probably the best I’ve seen for a long time despite been not that tall. Won so many clean headers. 
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 15, 2025, 10:12:21 am
Centre halves don't always have to be tall.  Some great ones in these lists;

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/short-at-the-back-the-5-greatest-centre-backs-59-or-under

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/lisandro-martinez-fabio-cannavaro-best-13-centre-backs-under-6ft/blt206ef91b81c53284
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: GazLaz on April 15, 2025, 10:26:27 am
Centre halves don't always have to be tall.  Some great ones in these lists;

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/short-at-the-back-the-5-greatest-centre-backs-59-or-under

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/lisandro-martinez-fabio-cannavaro-best-13-centre-backs-under-6ft/blt206ef91b81c53284

I did a piece of work recently for a Prem team regarding centre half profiles within high possession, high pressing teams. Mobility and the ability to defend 1v1 certainly more important than size that’s for sure.

Timber and Martinez when they were at Ajax were outrageously good essentially acting as two sweepers for the midfield, if that is an easier way of visualising how they played.

Certainly an area of the pitch that may be thought about differently in years to come.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 15, 2025, 11:38:14 am
I think it'd be interesting to see the differences for the levels.  In league 2 you certainly need at least one big dominating in the air centre half for when you play a team like Walsall.  I actually think long ball and direct football will become more fashionable as a way to counter the passing from the back.

I do wonder aswell (and I saw Gary Neville discussing this last week) if they should reconsider the short goal kicks in the box rules.  I feel it's adversely affected the entertainment value.  He made the point that centre halves are touching the ball most nowadays and do we really want that?  Surely it's more entertaining if the ball is up the pitch in midfield?  Matter of opinion though.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: GazLaz on April 15, 2025, 12:36:54 pm
I think it'd be interesting to see the differences for the levels.  In league 2 you certainly need at least one big dominating in the air centre half for when you play a team like Walsall.  I actually think long ball and direct football will become more fashionable as a way to counter the passing from the back.

I do wonder aswell (and I saw Gary Neville discussing this last week) if they should reconsider the short goal kicks in the box rules.  I feel it's adversely affected the entertainment value.  He made the point that centre halves are touching the ball most nowadays and do we really want that?  Surely it's more entertaining if the ball is up the pitch in midfield?  Matter of opinion though.

Certainly. The style of play for your own team and the other teams in your league key.

The evolution of the way strikers play these days (at the top level) was my starting point. A lot of them have traits that align more with wingers than your traditional centre forward. More pace and technical ability. If that’s the case you need a different solution to deal with that.

If you are a team that spends more time defending your box than the half way line, then fair enough, have blockers and big lumps. If you are mainly defending 1v1 on the half way line then the profile needs to be different.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Jimmydee on April 15, 2025, 01:03:54 pm
Local lad David Speedie could leap like a salmon, he wasn’t very tall.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: ChrisBx on April 15, 2025, 06:46:19 pm
Looks like Senior starts at CB tonight.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: ncRover on April 15, 2025, 07:31:21 pm
Looks like Senior starts at CB tonight.

Masterclass incoming. The ginger Cannavaro
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 15, 2025, 08:12:09 pm
He's generally really effective there. Don't know why we don't go to three at back as an option more often.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Lesonthewest on April 15, 2025, 10:03:19 pm
Because almost every post you have made over the last 20 months or so is tinged in negativity towards him.
It’s a pretty obvious observation

As this is a forum dedicated to Doncaster Rovers, it is of no value to readers to hear your opinion of me, even less so when it has no evidential basis whatsoever.

He has history of making things up, & throwing out petty insults.

Yawn

Great comeback, no opinion on that? No thought not.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: dickos1 on April 15, 2025, 10:13:52 pm
Opinion on what
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Lesonthewest on April 15, 2025, 10:25:53 pm
Opinion on what

On you making things up & making petty insults?
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 15, 2025, 10:27:15 pm
Looks like he's definitely playing injured
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: Move DRFC on April 15, 2025, 11:25:31 pm
Looks like he's definitely playing injured

Love Maxwell but didn't look at it tonight. Not himself.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: andyst79 on April 16, 2025, 05:45:52 am
Looks like he's definitely playing injured
He's not been at it for a while has he , like you say he's definitely carrying an injury.
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: roversdude on April 16, 2025, 08:03:26 am
Could tell he’s missed a few games ran himself into the ground last night, passing was generally poor be great to get him fit going forward
Title: Re: Maxwell
Post by: ncRover on April 18, 2025, 09:21:04 pm
Come to think of it, Owen Bailey isn't all that tall, and he's a good header of the ball.

In fact, if Woody and Jay are both injured, which some people are fearing they may be, then either Bailey or Senior will have to slot in alongside Tom.

Owen Bailey won 13/13 headers today playing at centre back.