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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Donnywolf on April 14, 2025, 05:40:38 pm
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Elliot Bell
Wow. Refereed us once v Barnsley in Virtu Cup and no comments at all. Apparantly he is making ( or taking ) huge steps in the EFL pyramid and elsewhere
Has done 3 Championship Games 11 League One Games and 8 League 2 games AND in March he did 5 games in Japans Second Tier
He's 26 and so should keep up better than the likes of the puffing panting 40 odds we've endured so far
One thing I did like if I read it right is that he likes dishing out the Cards BUT it looked like he likes to give Second Yellows out , exactly as it should be !
Contrast that to Hair on Saturday with their 26 , on a Yellow already he chopped our bloke down , stopped a promising move , and Hair was reaching for a deserved Yellow as he ran towards Mr 26 and " totally bottled it "
Looking forward to seeing Mr Bell although I might regret being his poster boy I suppose
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I just hope he doesn't finish the game as an "End"
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Dishing out a lot of cards. Mainly to Salford.
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How come we played 7 minutes injury time when a minimum of 4?
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Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!! :headbang:
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Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!! :headbang:
You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.
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Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!! :headbang:
You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.
Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long
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Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!! :headbang:
You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.
Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long
Would like to see it again but I’m sure it was nowhere near knee high.
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Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!! :headbang:
You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.
Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long
Never a red in a million years, it's a contact sport.
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Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.
Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.
Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.
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Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.
Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.
Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.
foul by their black player with the bleached hair. He was having a right go at the ref. He then got right in the 4th officials face as they came off for half times.
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Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.
Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.
Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.
Well their over the top biased Commentator said Tilt was not looking at their Keeper , we was running to get back in position
However TSL caught the ball cleanly and Tilt knew a long ball was coming and took him out with a British Bulldog barge
Or if under 50 a barge. Completely deserved a yellow
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Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!! :headbang:
You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.
Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long
And I have to agree with you as well
OK Ref gets one look but that was a straight Red all day long. Late and potential ankle or leg breaker
Ref wasn't bad but not as good as I expected apart from not being afraid on chalking off goal for home Team
He also proved that if a player like Tilt is on a Yellow and reoffends he will follow with a second Yellow and he did
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Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.
Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.
Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.
Well their over the top biased Commentator said Tilt was not looking at their Keeper , we was running to get back in position
However TSL caught the ball cleanly and Tilt knew a long ball was coming and took him out with a British Bulldog barge
Or if under 50 a barge. Completely deserved a yellow
I don't really disagree with it being a yellow, like I said just a bit OTT for a second yellow that's all. Maybe I'm a bit old school. It didn't change the game, wasn't stopping a goal 10 seconds before the end etc.....yellow by the book but not worthy of a 1 game ban in the real world.
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Sorry Wolfie thought the ref was very poor how could he penalise street when Tilt had hold of him and threw him to the floor …several times
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Probably happened during a break in transmission.
I endured the Salford commentary , the most biased available who noticed ever yard stolen by one Team and none by the other
They saw nothing wrong with their Goal on HT but Rovers one was deffo a foul and Street and his various assailants was " 6 of one"
I take your point though and have him 2 on Rate the Ref as he wasn't as good as I expected
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Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.
Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.
Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.
Well their over the top biased Commentator said Tilt was not looking at their Keeper , we was running to get back in position
However TSL caught the ball cleanly and Tilt knew a long ball was coming and took him out with a British Bulldog barge
Or if under 50 a barge. Completely deserved a yellow
I don't really disagree with it being a yellow, like I said just a bit OTT for a second yellow that's all. Maybe I'm a bit old school. It didn't change the game, wasn't stopping a goal 10 seconds before the end etc.....yellow by the book but not worthy of a 1 game ban in the real world.
The times when refs don’t show a second yellow if it would result in a red card show a weakness in their character.
Any offence that warrants a yellow should receive one.
There was an instance in the Wimbledon game last weekend when one of their players (already booked) made a bad foul and should have been booked.
The ref ran over and was pulling the yellow card out but didn’t because he realised that it would have been a sending off and I guess he thought it would have been unfair to reduce Wimbledon to nine players on the pitch.
A total bottling job by the ref and one that might have impacted on us winning the game.
Yes, the one by Tilt was very late in the game but who knows whether or not a quick clearance by TSL would have given us a chance to score on the break when Salford had so many players committed forward.
It was a cynical foul by Tilt and he knew the risk of doing it.
Too many times we see refs not issuing a second booking to a player simply because they have already had a yellow card.
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Unless it’s for moving the ball an inch ala Jordan Gibson
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Unless it’s for moving the ball an inch ala Jordan Gibson
Gibson was really stupid in that moment.
He had been warned two or three times and yet continued to move the ball forward.
What difference would it have made?
He was taking a big risk and let the team down as much as Billy did last weekend.
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Totally agree but I think if the ref realised he’d booked him he would have let him off which is wrong
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Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower? The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.
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Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower? The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.
Yes, I did.
It happens a lot and I can’t recall one instance of a foul throw being called.
The long throwers also have one foot off the ground when releasing the ball on a regular basis.
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We often complain about ground being stolen with throw ins but we were guilty of that a lot last night. There was one right in front of the 4th official where he told Bailey to stay where he was (about 10 yards into our half) and he ended up throwing in from their half.
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It happens all the time doesn’t it.
Maybe a solution would be to award the throw to the other team if a player still steals ground after being told not to.
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Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.
Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.
Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.
definelty holding then push by Stockton on TSL,as for a 2nd yellow for tilt he stopped TSL from releasing the ball quickly to stop a attacking move so mandatory yellow whether it’s soft or not,not seen no replays of harbours challenge but looking at it as it happened looked sumwhere in between yes looks like he won the ball,studs possibly showing????think if not won’t he ball it would of been red although that shouldn’t make a difference these days
On a whole don’t think the ref was that bad overall but Anderson hasn’t really touched their guy for our disallowed goal either looking at replays
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I don’t agree with all who are saying the foul on mols was just a yellow. For me there seems to me clear intent that garbutt was going to take moly out, so a clear red for me.
He’s taken a lot of hefty challenges this season, and we have to credit him for always looking to carry on, unfortunately he gets little protection from these poor refs in L2.
There were other poor decisions by the ref including the so called push by Anderson.
Also did anyone notice maxwell being pushed in the back by Karl Robinson, yes stop a player getting close, but order of order to push him. Surprised he didn’t get a red for the way he acted all through the game
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Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower? The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.
what do you actually mean when saying stepping over the line??I was there so can’t say noticed the throws from behind the goal
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The radio Sheffield microphone picked up a few savoury swear words from Robinson.
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The radio Sheffield microphone picked up a few savoury swear words from Robinson.
never known him to be any differant when ever he faces us,absolute bell end
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Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!! :headbang:
You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.
Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long
Never a red in a million years, it's a contact sport.
Try telling that to the ref who disallowed Rob Street’s header because Tom put his hand on a defender’s shoulder who then dropped to the ground as if he’d been tasered when he saw the ball going into the net.
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but the keeper just sitting down for a tactical break absolutely boils my piss, the players should be made to wait in the centre circle.
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They were laughing at it on the commentary , said there would be 10 mins added time due to the horrendous injury to his water bottle
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The radio Sheffield microphone picked up a few savoury swear words from Robinson.
Yes the sky commentator also apologised for the foul language, can’t remember his exact words but went on to say something like “O my word”
There was also the issue at half time, when the officials had to hold back from leaving the pitch due to what was waiting for them at the tunnel. Will be interesting if we hear of any action being taken against them.
We will probably hear that Grant has been fined for what he said to the ref at full time! he certainly wasn’t happy regarding the Anderson incident in the first half.
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Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.
Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.
Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.
Well their over the top biased Commentator said Tilt was not looking at their Keeper , we was running to get back in position
However TSL caught the ball cleanly and Tilt knew a long ball was coming and took him out with a British Bulldog barge
Or if under 50 a barge. Completely deserved a yellow
I don't really disagree with it being a yellow, like I said just a bit OTT for a second yellow that's all. Maybe I'm a bit old school. It didn't change the game, wasn't stopping a goal 10 seconds before the end etc.....yellow by the book but not worthy of a 1 game ban in the real world.
The times when refs don’t show a second yellow if it would result in a red card show a weakness in their character.
Any offence that warrants a yellow should receive one.
There was an instance in the Wimbledon game last weekend when one of their players (already booked) made a bad foul and should have been booked.
The ref ran over and was pulling the yellow card out but didn’t because he realised that it would have been a sending off and I guess he thought it would have been unfair to reduce Wimbledon to nine players on the pitch.
A total bottling job by the ref and one that might have impacted on us winning the game.
Yes, the one by Tilt was very late in the game but who knows whether or not a quick clearance by TSL would have given us a chance to score on the break when Salford had so many players committed forward.
It was a cynical foul by Tilt and he knew the risk of doing it.
Too many times we see refs not issuing a second booking to a player simply because they have already had a yellow card.
Yeah, can't argue with that.
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but the keeper just sitting down for a tactical break absolutely boils my piss, the players should be made to wait in the centre circle.
I was going to start a new thread about this until I saw your comment Spud.
It boils my piss too.
As soon as their 'keeper put his hand up on 59 minutes and went to ground, those around me agreed that this was a blatant, pre-planned tactic to stop play in order to have a team briefing on the touchline.
The 'keeper then receives 'treatment' while the manager has a team-talk with the other players, after which the 'keeper is miraculously restored to full health and continues completely as normal.
This is becoming the '60-minute syndrome' and the powers-that-be have to wise up and do something about it.
Maybe they start with your suggestion that all the other players have to move to the centre circle while the 'keeper receives the magic sponge treatment - that's a decent shout Spud.
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I don’t agree with all who are saying the foul on mols was just a yellow. For me there seems to me clear intent that garbutt was going to take moly out, so a clear red for me.
He’s taken a lot of hefty challenges this season, and we have to credit him for always looking to carry on, unfortunately he gets little protection from these poor refs in L2.
There were other poor decisions by the ref including the so called push by Anderson.
Also did anyone notice maxwell being pushed in the back by Karl Robinson, yes stop a player getting close, but order of order to push him. Surprised he didn’t get a red for the way he acted all through the game
Speaking of Robinson and the touchline, i only watched a bit of the game but either Maxwell or Senior were charging along with one theirs for a ball near the touchline and who pops up, was he on or off the pitch?, but Robinson. The Rovers player should have gone straight through him foot high
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but the keeper just sitting down for a tactical break absolutely boils my piss, the players should be made to wait in the centre circle.
I was going to start a new thread about this until I saw your comment Spud.
It boils my piss too.
As soon as their 'keeper put his hand up on 59 minutes and went to ground, those around me agreed that this was a blatant, pre-planned tactic to stop play in order to have a team briefing on the touchline.
The 'keeper then receives 'treatment' while the manager has a team-talk with the other players, after which the 'keeper is miraculously restored to full health and continues completely as normal.
This is becoming the '60-minute syndrome' and the powers-that-be have to wise up and do something about it.
Maybe they start with your suggestion that all the other players have to move to the centre circle while the 'keeper receives the magic sponge treatment - that's a decent shout Spud.
I can't take credit, someone else suggested it on here a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah the keeper, walking around his Bix suddenly holds him hamstring & sits down. Physio comes on & rolls his ankle around & then stretches his calf, blatant as you like.
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Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower? The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.
Yes, I did.
It happens a lot and I can’t recall one instance of a foul throw being called.
The long throwers also have one foot off the ground when releasing the ball on a regular basis.
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So many of the throws are illegal and I noticed that when Salford wanted a long throw the ball boy would hand them a fresh dry ball effectively getting round the drying-the-ball-with-a-towel routine. That should be illegal too. The referee needed protection from the crowd when he went in at half-time, so will the club be charged? Isn't it time too the feigned injury by the GK to allow the team under pressure to go over to the manager for a tactical talk was stopped by making it illegal for players to move to the dugout for advice during the course of a game?
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Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower? The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.
Yes, I did.
It happens a lot and I can’t recall one instance of a foul throw being called.
The long throwers also have one foot off the ground when releasing the ball on a regular basis.
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So many of the throws are illegal and I noticed that when Salford wanted a long throw the ball boy would hand them a fresh dry ball effectively getting round the drying-the-ball-with-a-towel routine. That should be illegal too. The referee needed protection from the crowd when he went in at half-time, so will the club be charged? Isn't it time too the feigned injury by the GK to allow the team under pressure to go over to the manager for a tactical talk was stopped by making it illegal for players to move to the dugout for advice during the course of a game?
why are the illegal?as for the keeper going down yes is a ball ache and of course it’s planned but the ref isn’t a doctor so can’t do anything else,all the mat can be done is bring in a law where the players can’t go within so many yards of the dug out while the keeper is being treated
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but the keeper just sitting down for a tactical break absolutely boils my piss, the players should be made to wait in the centre circle.
I think the only way to combat this is by making one other player go off for 2 minutes when play restarts ,keeper will not go down then
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What would make it interesting, is the keeper has to go off like other players have to. That would stop it.
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Keepers would be getting clattered for real every opportunity
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but the keeper just sitting down for a tactical break absolutely boils my piss, the players should be made to wait in the centre circle.
I think the only way to combat this is by making one other player go off for 2 minutes when play restarts ,keeper will not go down then
That is an interesting option.
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Keepers getting clattered is a bit different to just sitting down out the blue.
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Or they bring on the sub keeper for 5 mins but take of a forward for that length of time
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Keepers getting clattered is a bit different to just sitting down out the blue.
But the punishment would be the same
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Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower? The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.
Yes, I did.
It happens a lot and I can’t recall one instance of a foul throw being called.
The long throwers also have one foot off the ground when releasing the ball on a regular basis.
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So many of the throws are illegal and I noticed that when Salford wanted a long throw the ball boy would hand them a fresh dry ball effectively getting round the drying-the-ball-with-a-towel routine. That should be illegal too. The referee needed protection from the crowd when he went in at half-time, so will the club be charged? Isn't it time too the feigned injury by the GK to allow the team under pressure to go over to the manager for a tactical talk was stopped by making it illegal for players to move to the dugout for advice during the course of a game?
why are the illegal?as for the keeper going down yes is a ball ache and of course it’s planned but the ref isn’t a doctor so can’t do anything else,all the mat can be done is bring in a law where the players can’t go within so many yards of the dug out while the keeper is being treated
If you read what it says at Law 15 you’ll see that a lot of these long running throws would not stand examination against it. Replacing the ball with a freshly cleaned one for the home side defeats the purpose of the ban on providing a towel.
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Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower? The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.
Yes, I did.
It happens a lot and I can’t recall one instance of a foul throw being called.
The long throwers also have one foot off the ground when releasing the ball on a regular basis.
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So many of the throws are illegal and I noticed that when Salford wanted a long throw the ball boy would hand them a fresh dry ball effectively getting round the drying-the-ball-with-a-towel routine. That should be illegal too. The referee needed protection from the crowd when he went in at half-time, so will the club be charged? Isn't it time too the feigned injury by the GK to allow the team under pressure to go over to the manager for a tactical talk was stopped by making it illegal for players to move to the dugout for advice during the course of a game?
why are the illegal?as for the keeper going down yes is a ball ache and of course it’s planned but the ref isn’t a doctor so can’t do anything else,all the mat can be done is bring in a law where the players can’t go within so many yards of the dug out while the keeper is being treated
If you read what it says at Law 15 you’ll see that a lot of these long running throws would not stand examination against it. Replacing the ball with a freshly cleaned one for the home side defeats the purpose of the ban on providing a towel.
I wasn’t referring to using a towel as I know that isn’t allowed now I was on abit them being foul throws
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Todays ref was very good
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Certainly better than most we have had this season.