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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Bentley Bullet on April 19, 2025, 10:51:23 pm
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Moly is the new kid on the block in the legend stakes, but how does he compare to Copps?
I'll start seeing as it's my idea.....
Copps
For now.
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Copps will probably be our biggest legend because of the length of time he was with us and what we achieved during that time but who knows how long Mols will be here and how far we go up the leagues.
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Coppinger played well in 3 different divisions
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Moly isn't a legend......yet.
Cult hero status definitely but possibly elevated to legendary status in a week or so.
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Moly is more of a legend than copps was at 27 years of age
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How?
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Coppsl all day long , Molly needs to be class for another 5-7 years evan to lace.coppingers boots
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Copps was a key player in our best ever team, contributed massively to our most successful spell ever, and continued to contribute for well over a decade.
Not even close. Copps all day. If Moly scores the winner on Monday I might tell you different after a few beers, mind you.
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How?
Copps legend status is because he was quality but mainly because of how long he stayed with us, when he was 27 he’d only been here 4 seasons and hadn’t set the world on fire scoring only 12 goals in almost 150 games.
There would’ve been nobody around at that point wanting to call him a legend
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Copps also never scored anywhere near the number of goals Luke has this season
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Hard to compare, different style of players in different positions. Copps will remain the only modern Rovers legend for a good while yet. Luke wants to be the next Copps, he needs to keep learning from his idol.
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Both.
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Technically, Coppinger was in a different stratosphere. Probably only pace and physicality that prevented him playing top flight football. Was very comfortable at championship level however and not sure molyneux would be.
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A bit early for that question/comparison.
One point I do reflect on was how good our midfield was previously with the likes of Stock, Copps, Wellens & Green.
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Probably fairer is Moly v McIndoe (mentioned elsewhere on the forum). The length of Copps’ innings makes him almost untouchable.
Both Moly and McIndoe were that single spark of brilliance that could change the game in a second.
For me, at the moment McIndoe would win, he had all the skill but also that swagger, confidence and attitude that I think will come for Moly but isn’t there yet.
I noticed at the end of the game on Friday the crowd wanted someone to do the ‘wayyy, wayyy, waayyyyyy’ celebration which Olowu does when he’s here, the lads all looked a bit sheepish and shy and no one stepped forward, until Moly stepped up and did it for the fans. I’ve a feeling in the same situation McIndoe would have been stood on the hordings with his shirt off!
Moly is incredible though, vital to this team and our push for promotion, and maybe it’s that humble in him that gives us a chance of keeping him here for a while!
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Molyneux has had a very good season but McIndoe in the 2003/04 promotion season was basically MOTM every game. Probably the single most dominant season in recent history.
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Molyneux has had a very good season but McIndoe in the 2003/04 promotion season was basically MOTM every game. Probably the single most dominant season in recent history.
Always enjoyed a good rendition of the ‘12 McIndoe’s of Christmas’.
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Molyneux has had a very good season but McIndoe in the 2003/04 promotion season was basically MOTM every game. Probably the single most dominant season in recent history.
Blundell, fortune-west, brown all had massive impacts that season.
This season nobody has contributed anywhere near what molyneux has, only street comes close
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How?
Copps legend status is because he was quality but mainly because of how long he stayed with us, when he was 27 he’d only been here 4 seasons and hadn’t set the world on fire scoring only 12 goals in almost 150 games.
There would’ve been nobody around at that point wanting to call him a legend
Not wanting an argument here, so read with good intentions.
Would you class Marquis as a legend for his goals? Or Bruno Jones.
I wouldn't.
I am a big fan of Mols but for me, being a legend consists of winning titles or promotions whilst doing the business.
For me, Mols is a whisker away from that.
If we go up, it because of Mols' goals and assists and he will have cemented his legendary status.
The same for Grant.
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I don't think Mols has what it takes to play in the championship. Coppinger took to it like a duck to water!
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If Moly is still here in 7/8 years and still playing sublime football, dominating games and winning MOM/player of the season awards, then it’s a close thing. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love him to be here long term and rate him really highly and he’s already earned his place at the top table of rovers legends, but comparing him to Copps? That’s another level - at the moment! :rtid:
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Moly is more of a legend than copps was at 27 years of age
Totally disagree, & while I think Molls is an excellent player & we are lucky to have him in this league, Copps was far better, he was 27 when he scored that hatrick v Southend, totally unplayable that night. He also scored a hatrick v Norwich in the Championship a couple of years later. Some of the things he did were worth the entrance fee alone, & his wing play alongside James O'connor was almost telepathic. Copps for me all day long.
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The fact that the answer is clearly Coppinger is no slant on Molyneux’s ability at all. Coppinger is right up there in the discussion on our best ever player. Molyneux is the best player in the current team and doing really well. I feel like it’s a ludicrously unfair comparison.
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It is not a direct comparison really. Copps demonstrated that when we were top end Championship he was on a level with the best in that league. Molyneux has had a superb season and a half for us in the fourth tier. He hasn't played top end Championship so it is not a like for like comparison in any way.
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The fact that the answer is clearly Coppinger is no slant on Molyneux’s ability at all. Coppinger is right up there in the discussion on our best ever player. Molyneux is the best player in the current team and doing really well. I feel like it’s a ludicrously unfair comparison.
I think comparing Moly to Copps is a great compliment.
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Way too early. Copps evolved during his time with us by adapting to different positions at different levels in the Pyramid where players of higher standing, still fell for the Copps Chop.
Moly is still in his apprenticeship in comparison to Copps' whole career.
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How?
Copps legend status is because he was quality but mainly because of how long he stayed with us, when he was 27 he’d only been here 4 seasons and hadn’t set the world on fire scoring only 12 goals in almost 150 games.
There would’ve been nobody around at that point wanting to call him a legend
Not wanting an argument here, so read with good intentions.
Would you class Marquis as a legend for his goals? Or Bruno Jones.
I wouldn't.
I am a big fan of Mols but for me, being a legend consists of winning titles or promotions whilst doing the business.
For me, Mols is a whisker away from that.
If we go up, it because of Mols' goals and assists and he will have cemented his legendary status.
The same for Grant.
I agree,
My point was just that when copps was 27 he hadn’t really achieved legendary status, that all came later.
No reason why molyneux can’t stay here for another 6/7 years.
At that point he would definitely be up there with copps
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Will the Copps documentary ever see the light of day
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This is similar to a question I asked the other day on twitter.
Start, bench, sell.
In their prime: Luke, McIndoe or Copps.
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We might not have seen moly’s prime yet
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We might not have seen moly’s prime yet
I sincerely hope not, how exciting would that be??!!
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I mean how is this even a question?
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Copps all day every day and twice on sundays.
I’m too young to have seen King Alick so Copps is the best rovers player in my lifetime
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Moly because he scores more , but Copps what a brilliant player for the Rovers.
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Moly because he scores more , but Copps what a brilliant player for the Rovers.
And he could control and keep the ball when receiving a throw in. ;-)
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Niether bring back Jim Dobbin all is forgiven.
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Coppinger is the biggest pleasure to watch of all Rovers players I've seen in 30 plus years of watching.
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Way too soon for this talk! revisit it when Moly has been part of teams out playing top championship clubs every week for a few seasons too.
Moly is more of a direct goal threat so if he stays with us till he’s 39 and keeps contributing decent numbers he’ll have to be way up there. Copps was technically such a joy to watch but his goal return was never anything like Luke’s these last couple of seasons
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I don’t think the level we’re playing at has any relevance.
What level did we play when Jeffries played?
It’s similar thing to when people say players can’t be classed as the best in the world because they’ve never won anything for the national team.
Absolute meaningless argument
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Currently not even a question for me, Copps
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Copps. He did it at a higher level and for longer and let’s face it… how many pivotal moments was Copps, erm, pivotal in? A legend in every aspect.
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Great to see Copps enjoying the celebrations. He played his part in that promotion.