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Title: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: robchester on May 16, 2025, 05:49:02 pm
Big Tom has turned down a new contract to join a league two club.

Thanks for everything Tom
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 16, 2025, 05:51:45 pm
Salford?
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: glosterred on May 16, 2025, 05:52:00 pm
Surprised that he has decided to leave, but good luck in the future Tom

COYR
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: CheeseToastie on May 16, 2025, 05:52:00 pm
Probably been told by Grant that he's somebody else lined up and Tom probably wants to play regular football. Don't know who the team is but states he'll be playing league 2 football next season I would guess maybe Salford, but accrington or Barrow from that neck of the woods. Shame really but can see Grant bringing in two really good centre halves now to compliment Jay
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 16, 2025, 05:57:47 pm
It could be the length of Contract which as made the decision and closer to his home Good luck Tom
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: BerlinRed on May 16, 2025, 05:59:01 pm
Great servant to the club and a top defender on his day. All the best!

I suspect Grant might see this as an opportunity rather than a setback though.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Fal on May 16, 2025, 05:59:36 pm
It could be the length of Contract which as made the decision and closer to his home Good luck Tom

It was a 2 yr deal with an option of a 3rd
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 16, 2025, 05:59:55 pm
That's a shame as I thought he could still do well at League One.

Been a great servant being the only survivor from McCanns first spell, so has gone through some hard times so he deserved to get that medal around his neck.

Wish him all the best wherever he ends up. As others suggest my first thought was Salford due to his native Lancashire roots.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: boro_rover on May 16, 2025, 06:00:42 pm
This works well for all parties in my opinion. Tom has been a great servant to the club and we owe him our gratitude for the service he has given. However the calibre of player in league one is a step up, he isn’t getting any younger and I fear he would be making up the numbers.

This gives us an opportunity to pick up someone the right age, with the ability to develop.

Thanks for everything Tom
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: CheeseToastie on May 16, 2025, 06:01:19 pm
Shrewsbury... Didn't expect that one bit
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on May 16, 2025, 06:06:28 pm
Wishing him nothing but the best. Never got anything less than 100% from him whilst he was here. Hope he ends this season with another medal!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: GazLaz on May 16, 2025, 06:08:02 pm
Great servant and wish him all the best.

Now sign Sam Stubbs to replace him please.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 16, 2025, 06:08:43 pm
Shrewsbury... Didn't expect that one bit

Crikey! Don't think those colours will suit him. Maybe Biggins had a word. Come on down!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: selby on May 16, 2025, 06:09:55 pm
  Cheese Toastie, its not that other clubs want our better  centre halves and pay better then.
  We will be left with what we are left with and competing with others to get as good, because the two that have left  were the corner stone of getting us up, two of three including Bailey who were consistently good most games they played.
  Apart from adding Molineux and Street when he came in. all the rest had bad periods some longer than others.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Cramby10 on May 16, 2025, 06:11:49 pm
Shocked by this to be honest.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: CottyRover on May 16, 2025, 06:12:28 pm
Tom was great during the final run in, but I guess, in part, he was there because others were unavailable. He might want to go somewhere where he can get regular first team football. Sorry to see him go. It,It feels like he's been with us forever!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Filo on May 16, 2025, 06:13:05 pm
Tom also has back issues that flair up from time to time, maybe it’s best for us anyway, good luck Tom and best wishes
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: IDM on May 16, 2025, 06:17:00 pm
It could be the length of Contract which as made the decision and closer to his home Good luck Tom

It was a 2 yr deal with an option of a 3rd

Was that our offer or his new club.?

If the latter, it gives him more stability perhaps?

I thought he would do well in league 1 too..
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 16, 2025, 06:18:00 pm
From free press
Tom Anderson, Rovers' longest-serving player, has rejected a fresh two-year offer and has signed a deal with Shrewsbury instead.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Fal on May 16, 2025, 06:18:35 pm
It could be the length of Contract which as made the decision and closer to his home Good luck Tom

It was a 2 yr deal with an option of a 3rd

Was that our offer or his new club.?

If the latter, it gives him more stability perhaps?

I thought he would do well in league 1 too..

This is from the website…

We can confirm that Tom Anderson has rejected the opportunity to sign a new contract with Rovers and has departed the club.

The centre half was offered a new two-year deal with the option of an additional 12 months following the conclusion of the season but has opted to join a club in Sky Bet League Two.

Anderson was Rovers’ longest serving player having joined the club in 2018, initially on loan from boyhood club Burnley.

He departs having made 251 appearances for Rovers, including starting the final 11 matches of the season on the run to the League Two title.

We thank Tom for his tremendous service to the club and wish both him and his family the very best for the future.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: IDM on May 16, 2025, 06:26:36 pm
Oh ok..

Makes me wonder if he realises he might not be first choice, or has other non-football reasons for wanting away.?

You would think we would pay more too.  However, by the same logic we may end up signing players we didn’t think we would.?

Good luck Tom..
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: rich1471 on May 16, 2025, 06:36:43 pm
Signed for Shrewsbury on a two year deal
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 16, 2025, 06:37:19 pm
He’s going to Shrewsbury just been relegated so they could be paying the same or more. We know he was offered a 2 year contract plus extension so is it money or League 2 closer to home. But he will be missed
Also Biggins and John Marquis are there at the moment so he will know players and they won’t be paying lower wages.
Concern may be is now we are back in league 1 can we pay wages that that standard of player wants.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: keith79 on May 16, 2025, 06:46:00 pm
Don't blame him really, the amount of abuse he got earlier in the season must have help made up his mind to leave.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: ncRover on May 16, 2025, 06:51:29 pm
Don't blame him really, the amount of abuse he got earlier in the season must have help made up his mind to leave.

When was this?

Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: ncRover on May 16, 2025, 06:54:07 pm
Thanks for everything Tom. It’s been a wild ride and sometimes we just need a fresh start in life.

Shrewsbury is a lovely place to be fair. It could just be down to where his Mrs and him want to settle down?  Could be an easier place to get to from his native Lancashire down the M6 too.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 16, 2025, 07:01:54 pm
Thought Tom was a banker to stay on!

Does that mean Grant’s 6/7 players now becomes 7/8?
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Daniel_Smith on May 16, 2025, 07:18:40 pm
Shrewsbury must have offered some decent money I'd suspect
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: pib on May 16, 2025, 07:28:37 pm
I like Anderson and he was a brilliant servant for the club, but I have to say I did have a few doubts about handing him a new deal in L1, especially 2-3 years.

All the very best to him, he is a legend. Good opportunity to really strengthen that position now though I think.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Draytonian III on May 16, 2025, 07:30:24 pm
Wishing him nothing but the best. Never got anything less than 100% from him whilst he was here. Hope he ends this season with another medal!


Well said , my thoughts exactly
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: ncRover on May 16, 2025, 07:34:06 pm
Shrewsbury must have offered some decent money I'd suspect

Can’t have been any more than we did
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on May 16, 2025, 07:46:17 pm
Tom also has back issues that flair up from time to time, maybe it’s best for us anyway, good luck Tom and best wishes

For what it's worth doesn't Oluwu also have back problems  I reckon he's doing a bit of part time modelling - I remember when he first came he was a bit iffy - but settled down and has been a dependable rock.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: keith79 on May 16, 2025, 07:48:02 pm
Don't blame him really, the amount of abuse he got earlier in the season must have help made up his mind to leave.

When was this?


around Xmas time maybe after a loss at home. I remember grant talking about it .
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 16, 2025, 07:48:44 pm
I like Anderson and he was a brilliant servant for the club, but I have to say I did have a few doubts about handing him a new deal in L1, especially 2-3 years.

All the very best to him, he is a legend. Good opportunity to really strengthen that position now though I think.

Agree with this.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: PDX_Rover on May 16, 2025, 07:55:58 pm
I loved Tom. Proper mester. Been great for us. The best of luck big fella.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on May 16, 2025, 08:11:05 pm
Been a great servant for us and was worth a contract offer. That said it’s probably right that L2 is his level. Here he’d be a back up you’d expect and he deserves to play.

Assume we offered a 1 year deal and that, and expectations of been a starter, meant Shrews had a better offer.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: ravenrover on May 16, 2025, 08:32:54 pm
2 years with a 1 year option?
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: selby on May 16, 2025, 08:34:11 pm
  Sedwards, Tom was our best technical defender, and when fit it showed.
  He was better positionally in the defensive area, and his distribution and areal ability because of his positioning looked easy compared with others in the division, and could pick a pass, and could mix it physically with the best.
   If he had had pace he would have never played for us, he would have been at a different level.   
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: glosterred on May 16, 2025, 08:36:31 pm
Tom, promoted with Donny, relegated with Shrewsbury in the same year


COYR
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: IDM on May 16, 2025, 08:50:25 pm
Tom, promoted with Donny, relegated with Shrewsbury in the same year


COYR

That doesn’t make sense.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 16, 2025, 08:58:31 pm
This from Shrewsbury
Shrewsbury Town are delighted to announce the signing of experienced defender Tom Anderson on a two-year deal.

The commanding centre-back put pen to paper on a contract with the club earlier today and will officially become a Salop player on July 1, subject to EFL approval.

Tom arrives in Shropshire following an outstanding season with Doncaster Rovers, where he played an integral role in their League Two title-winning campaign.

The 31-year-old is our first signing of the summer as director of football Micky Moore and head coach Michael Appleton work to revamp our squad.

Tom said: “It's great to be here - the last few days have been really smooth.

"I first heard about the contract on Monday. We did a bit of negotiating, but I was delighted to get it over the line and done quickly.

"I had a great time at Doncaster, but everything comes to an end."I spoke to Michael (Appleton) and Micky (Moore) and their ambitions for the season match mine."They have both told me to come in and be the player I am.

"It was refreshing to hear their ambitions. That’s what you want when you get a new challenge.

"When you are working as a team, you want to all be on the same page and that is what we are."

On his style of play, Tom added: "I will give 100 per cent commitment, I will put my body on the line and be a really good defender.

"But I am also very capable of playing good football. I back myself to be one the best players on the pitch each week."

Director of football Micky Moore said: “First of all, I’d like to welcome Tom to the Croud Meadow.

“He’s a player we’ve identified as possessing the qualities and character that we feel have been lacking in the squad.

“He has a strong presence both on and off the pitch, he is a leader, and he arrives having played a key role in Doncaster’s title-winning campaign.

“Tom brings a wealth of experience, I think his arrival is a real coup for the football club.”
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Jonathan on May 16, 2025, 08:59:49 pm
He’s been brilliant for us over a long period of time and has kept coming back after being written off. Leaves with his head held high after a series of brilliant displays at the end of the season.

I’d have been happy if he’d stayed and continued to compete for a place. However I'm surprised at the length of contract we offered him at his age and equally surprised he has rejected it. Leaves with our best wishes and I’ll keep an eye out for how he does.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: GazLaz on May 16, 2025, 09:07:55 pm
He’s been brilliant for us over a long period of time and has kept coming back after being written off. Leaves with his head held high after a series of brilliant displays at the end of the season.

I’d have been happy if he’d stayed and continued to compete for a place. However I'm surprised at the length of contract we offered him at his age and equally surprised he has rejected it. Leaves with our best wishes and I’ll keep an eye out for how he does.

Without knowing the financials, offering 2 years with a years option feels madness. He’s been regressing for a while now and just played well in the last period of his contract as players do when they need a new deal! I have every respect for him but this is a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Jonathan on May 16, 2025, 09:18:49 pm
He’s been brilliant for us over a long period of time and has kept coming back after being written off. Leaves with his head held high after a series of brilliant displays at the end of the season.

I’d have been happy if he’d stayed and continued to compete for a place. However I'm surprised at the length of contract we offered him at his age and equally surprised he has rejected it. Leaves with our best wishes and I’ll keep an eye out for how he does.

Without knowing the financials, offering 2 years with a years option feels madness. He’s been regressing for a while now and just played well in the last period of his contract as players do when they need a new deal! I have every respect for him but this is a blessing in disguise.

I have to agree on the whole, although I think his end of season performances were driven more by his character than seeking a new deal. Contract offer seemed Jon Taylor-esque. That’s no disrespect at all to big Tom, just not often you see a 31 year old with a known injury problem get offered a deal of that length. I had anticipated a one year extension. Shows what I know!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: GazLaz on May 16, 2025, 10:49:13 pm
He’s been brilliant for us over a long period of time and has kept coming back after being written off. Leaves with his head held high after a series of brilliant displays at the end of the season.

I’d have been happy if he’d stayed and continued to compete for a place. However I'm surprised at the length of contract we offered him at his age and equally surprised he has rejected it. Leaves with our best wishes and I’ll keep an eye out for how he does.

Without knowing the financials, offering 2 years with a years option feels madness. He’s been regressing for a while now and just played well in the last period of his contract as players do when they need a new deal! I have every respect for him but this is a blessing in disguise.

I have to agree on the whole, although I think his end of season performances were driven more by his character than seeking a new deal. Contract offer seemed Jon Taylor-esque. That’s no disrespect at all to big Tom, just not often you see a 31 year old with a known injury problem get offered a deal of that length. I had anticipated a one year extension. Shows what I know!

Club been woeful with contract renewals over recent years. Likely another poor decision dodged. Close and Westbrook last year case in point. No evidence to say we have improved decision making in that area.

Improved performance due to contracts is a subconscious thing I think as opposed to strategy. Biggins for example. Tom has run his course as a DRFC player. Finding a better replacement really will be pretty easy. We are now recruiting/ building a squad for the top end of L1. Anderson isn’t that level.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 16, 2025, 10:50:49 pm
I’d hardly call it a blessing in disguise, when we consider the timing of Tom leaving within days of losing our 2 other centre backs that are loaded with experience and have a great understanding of what’s required. Yes, maybe from the point of view of length of contract offered to a 31 year old, but then that period also reflects how much Grant wanted him here!

It does present an issue that I’m not sure Grant was ready for. A complete rebuild of the central defence and all that goes with it. I’m sure the Club have options, but can we afford them, when you consider what is required elsewhere! Hopefully, all targets are achieved, but this may well have thrown a bit of a spanner in the works!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: roversdude on May 16, 2025, 11:00:21 pm
Depends if we offered him a starting wage or a squad player wage, maybe Grant didn’t see him as a starter - agree with Gaz on this ones potential 3 year deal was a bit risky
Best of luck Tom
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: SydneyRover on May 16, 2025, 11:31:11 pm
Good luck Tom, all the best for the future and thanks for being a big part of our promotion.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: rover-n-out on May 17, 2025, 12:34:45 am
My grateful thanks to you Tom for everything you gave to the Rovers every time you stepped across that white line.
A true defender in every sense of the word, and you always gave us 100% commitment. Good luck with the Shrews and hope to welcome you back to the Keepmoat one day.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: mushRTID on May 17, 2025, 12:38:55 am
I’m gutted about this. I do feel it’s best all round from a footballing perspective. But what a bloke and what a servant.

He’s been absolutely brilliant for us and I wish him nothing but the best.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 17, 2025, 01:14:08 am
There just comes a time for a change. 7 years service through thick and thin, grinding away, same training ground, same stadium, same journey etc etc. He finally achieved something with us which justified his unwavering commitment, so what better time to move on and try somewhere different with a fresh challenge.

It's up to McCann to find the next Tom Anderson with potential to serve the club for the next 7 years.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 17, 2025, 06:39:52 am
He’s the epitome of the classic English centre back. Head it, kick it / them, fully committed. Coming towards the back end of his career but he’s never once been lacking in effort, bravery and commitment. Glad he has the medal of a champion.

His departure seems odd. We offered him a deal, of surprising length if truth be told. Then apparently was only contacted on Monday about a deal that was no longer in duration and by Friday he has left. Money perhaps, guaranteed start perhaps, seems an odd choice to go to League Two rather than League One for perhaps the final time in your career.

At least we know early doors what we need to recruit for now. McGrath lost both his main partners from last season.   

Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Nudga on May 17, 2025, 07:04:14 am
Could be he was going to be playing 2nd fiddle to a new cb pairing and the pay scale may have reflected that?
There's also many clauses in contracts nowadays and they maybe played a part?

The other thing could be that Tom achieved his dream of winning a title with us and getting us out of this god awful league so now wanted/needed a new challenge. 

People may see three cb leaving and two rejecting conteact offers as a negative and that Rovers don't have money or lack of ambition.
I don't,  I see this as a chance for Grant to freshen the squad up with lg1 quality with a genuine chance to push on for "Destination Championship".

Interesting and exciting times.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 17, 2025, 07:56:09 am
CBCB:

Money perhaps, guaranteed start perhaps, seems an odd choice to go to League Two rather than League One for perhaps the final time in your career.

You forgot the third option - geography!

Personally, I think it’s possibly a combination of financial and travelling that led him to his decision. Good luck to him, he’s been one hell of a servant. The problem now is finding someone with experience and a leader that’s both affordable and slightly younger!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Nudga on May 17, 2025, 08:06:17 am
Does Tom still live around Burnley? If so, it can't be anything to do with making travelling easier
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: keyser_soze on May 17, 2025, 08:58:00 am
I remember when Wellens left the second time round (also to Shrewsbury funnily enough wasn’t it) he said at the time he was moving for geography reasons, but later admitted when he came back as manager he knew his time was up at that level. Maybe Tom knows L2 is his level and he will perhaps get found out. Or perhaps Grant told him as much and he would be a squad player.

Does seem like he had a part to play though, particularly with Olowu and Wood moving on.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: selby on May 17, 2025, 09:00:54 am
  It was money in both cases, and we have lost two of the best in the division we played in and no transfer fee in the case of Olowu who would have commanded a decent fee.
  We are left with trying to get better probably for less in a higher league and could well want three two right sided and a good left sided with McGrath as back up if we want to make a splash at that level.
  We have been found wanting once more and lost out again with clubs and agents outsmarting us. Penny wise and pound foolish.
 
 
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 17, 2025, 09:23:23 am
Not ideal but Barrow will be thinking the same. There is a hierarchy and we need to be better at finding those below us, than worrying about players leaving to go elsewhere.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: silent majority on May 17, 2025, 09:31:27 am
I have a framed, signed, Tom Anderson shirt sat in the garage if anybody’s interested!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: BobG on May 17, 2025, 09:49:23 am
Selby. I am not trying to be argumentative, or rude, or unhelpful. For all I know your post number 56 may be nothing but the absolute truth. But your presentation of information as incontrovertible and absolute, without evidence, without even a suggestion of access to a secret source, leads me at least to think back, again, to Hitchens Razor.

A statement made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

BobG
 
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: IDM on May 17, 2025, 09:49:45 am
  It was money in both cases, and we have lost two of the best in the division we played in and no transfer fee in the case of Olowu who would have commanded a decent fee.
  We are left with trying to get better probably for less in a higher league and could well want three two right sided and a good left sided with McGrath as back up if we want to make a splash at that level.
  We have been found wanting once more and lost out again with clubs and agents outsmarting us. Penny wise and pound foolish.
 
 

Got any proof to back that up.?
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Pancho Regan on May 17, 2025, 09:51:03 am
I'm sorry to see big Tom leave and I'm surprised by his decision to be honest, especially now we know he was offered a two-year deal with a further one-year option.

But we don't know the full reasons behind it and I wish Tom all the best with his new challenge.

He has been a brilliant servant to our club, and what a way to bow out - with a Champion's medal round his neck.

Thanks big fella, and good luck for the future.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 17, 2025, 09:54:53 am
Not ideal but Barrow will be thinking the same. There is a hierarchy and we need to be better at finding those below us, than worrying about players leaving to go elsewhere.

Feels like we are getting a bit better at this. Bailey, Molyneux, McGrath and Sterry are among the better players in the squad. Gotts you would imagine can adapt well to League One. All taken at no cost from lower league sides.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Usher wide. on May 17, 2025, 10:00:20 am
I have a framed, signed, Tom Anderson shirt sat in the garage if anybody’s interested!

I’ll happily take that off your hands if you’re serious Martin!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: pib on May 17, 2025, 10:18:40 am
It might well be money. But that doesn’t mean Rovers are scrimping. What we were willing to pay Anderson to be 3rd or 4th choice may well have been less than what Shrewsbury were willing to pay him to presumably be a starter. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

He is probably worth more to Shrewsbury pound and pence wise than he is to us. I’d rather us go and get a quality player in to be a starter than being forced to get someone average because we’ve overpaid for Anderson.

It’s all about balancing the budget. I think Anderson is a legend but the facts are, he’s 31, has had plenty of injury problems, and it’s questionable whether he can be effective in L1 these days.

The club might have fallen into the best decision for everyone concerned here.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Jonathan on May 17, 2025, 10:25:17 am
  It was money in both cases, and we have lost two of the best in the division we played in and no transfer fee in the case of Olowu who would have commanded a decent fee.
  We are left with trying to get better probably for less in a higher league and could well want three two right sided and a good left sided with McGrath as back up if we want to make a splash at that level.
  We have been found wanting once more and lost out again with clubs and agents outsmarting us. Penny wise and pound foolish.
 
 

Got any proof to back that up.?

Selby is teeing us up for Faulkner departing I feel, and will blame money again.

The comment about being outsmarted my agents is odd. The role of the agent is to persuade a club to pay above the worth of the client (player). It appears that’s exactly what we haven’t done here.

I don’t blame Tom for wanting the most he can get from a contract in the later stages of his career. But that doesn’t mean we have to pay it. An expensive 2-3 year commitment for a 31 year old with an injury problem would be a risky move. If we offered a reduced package then I’d understand that more. Ultimately he’s opted to move elsewhere and leaves with all our best wishes. I don’t feel we’ve been outsmarted here.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 17, 2025, 10:51:36 am
I'm surprised we offered him that length of contract and surprised actually he's gone elsewhere. We obviously won't get to know why, but playing time and money are two obvious ones.

Criticising constantly is a bit pathetic though. The manager knows the worth of his players and how he wants to use them.  Consistently McCann has used Tom as the backup and I suspect he doesn't want that.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: roversdude on May 17, 2025, 10:52:04 am
Probably offered less than he was previously on as a squad player in Grant we trust
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: GazLaz on May 17, 2025, 11:00:01 am
  It was money in both cases, and we have lost two of the best in the division we played in and no transfer fee in the case of Olowu who would have commanded a decent fee.
  We are left with trying to get better probably for less in a higher league and could well want three two right sided and a good left sided with McGrath as back up if we want to make a splash at that level.
  We have been found wanting once more and lost out again with clubs and agents outsmarting us. Penny wise and pound foolish.
 
 

Got any proof to back that up.?

Selby is teeing us up for Faulkner departing I feel, and will blame money again.

The comment about being outsmarted my agents is odd. The role of the agent is to persuade a club to pay above the worth of the client (player). It appears that’s exactly what we haven’t done here.

I don’t blame Tom for wanting the most he can get from a contract in the later stages of his career. But that doesn’t mean we have to pay it. An expensive 2-3 year commitment for a 31 year old with an injury problem would be a risky move. If we offered a reduced package then I’d understand that more. Ultimately he’s opted to move elsewhere and leaves with all our best wishes. I don’t feel we’ve been outsmarted here.

I think in both cases we have been smart not over paying. Anderson we have spoken about but even Olowu, I’ve spoken to the best in the business at rating and valuing players and they are of the opinion he’s not as good as we tend to think. Paying any more than an ok L1 wage would have been too much.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: The Dav on May 17, 2025, 11:09:51 am
I think it’s more about Tom starting games, it’s clear that Grant sees him as a bench player, and maybe at his age he’s not happy to play second fiddle!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 17, 2025, 12:09:15 pm
We often hear footballers say it's good to feel wanted. It's the same with most people in life generally. When you consider the amount of words written about Olowu, the songs sang about Ooh Ahh, Jay McGrath, Woody wearing a magic hat, if we to be completely honest, what future did we really see for Tom Anderson? Acknowledging his great service and contribution leading to this point, we'd probably say 'limited', when not many would have him as their first choice centre half or a must keep.

We hope of course, McCann has that succession plan in place. We'll know that come the start of pre season training.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: SOD on May 17, 2025, 12:26:49 pm
Would you want to stay at a club where your own fans give you so much abuse. I don't suppose he is the first nor will he be the last!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Metalmicky on May 17, 2025, 12:42:06 pm
Wasn't Tom able to look for a new club due to his contract expiring.  If so, he (his agent) may well have negotiated this a month ago and just waited until his deal expired to reveal it.  He may also have negotiated a wage increase at Shrewsbury due to no fee being involved for his services..?
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Filo on May 17, 2025, 12:50:41 pm
Wasn't Tom able to look for a new club due to his contract expiring.  If so, he (his agent) may well have negotiated this a month ago and just waited until his deal expired to reveal it.  He may also have negotiated a wage increase at Shrewsbury due to no fee being involved for his services..?
His deal doesn’t expire until 30th June
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: GazLaz on May 17, 2025, 12:53:26 pm
Wasn't Tom able to look for a new club due to his contract expiring.  If so, he (his agent) may well have negotiated this a month ago and just waited until his deal expired to reveal it.  He may also have negotiated a wage increase at Shrewsbury due to no fee being involved for his services..?
His deal doesn’t expire until 30th June

You can speak to clubs before it expires though.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: jmt23 on May 17, 2025, 01:05:54 pm
He mentioned in an interview about this, and the uncertainty he was feeling - he/his agent was definitely looking for a club. I’ve no issue with this, if we couldn’t provide certainty that he will have a contract you have to protect yourself. The same goes for Joe O.

This works both ways as the club that may be gaining a promotion or relegation can shed the players they do not feel can help the cause either through talent or financially.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Filo on May 17, 2025, 01:06:42 pm
Wasn't Tom able to look for a new club due to his contract expiring.  If so, he (his agent) may well have negotiated this a month ago and just waited until his deal expired to reveal it.  He may also have negotiated a wage increase at Shrewsbury due to no fee being involved for his services..?
His deal doesn’t expire until 30th June

You can speak to clubs before it expires though.

I never said any different, I know how it works
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: In the box on May 17, 2025, 01:17:06 pm
I have a framed, signed, Tom Anderson shirt sat in the garage if anybody’s interested!
Donate it to the Belle Vue Bar :chair:
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: idler on May 17, 2025, 01:22:12 pm
Would you want to stay at a club where your own fans give you so much abuse. I don't suppose he is the first nor will he be the last!
It was a small minority of fans though. It happens at every club unfortunately.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 17, 2025, 01:58:29 pm
  It was money in both cases, and we have lost two of the best in the division we played in and no transfer fee in the case of Olowu who would have commanded a decent fee.
  We are left with trying to get better probably for less in a higher league and could well want three two right sided and a good left sided with McGrath as back up if we want to make a splash at that level.
  We have been found wanting once more and lost out again with clubs and agents outsmarting us. Penny wise and pound foolish.
 
 
We know we renegotiated with Joe before he left.
We gave Tom his contract last week he was offered Shrewsburys contract on Monday. Which he had to discuss he says. Now we don’t know whether there was any further discussions with us. Unless our offer was lower (no proof) that negotiations would not have made a difference.
After all that we have to replace two centre halves with quality at league 1 level which may take longer than Grant wanted.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: StocksArmy on May 17, 2025, 02:10:13 pm
In my opinion a club legend. Anybody who commits their body and puts their head where it hurts like he has each week will do for me. And if we don’t recruit someone with that same attitude and commitment I feel we will miss him more than we know. Big loss to the dressing room also. Best of luck to Tom, Shrews have themselves one of the best centre halves in League Two. Wouldn’t be surprised if he captains them next season.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 17, 2025, 03:07:33 pm
Proper mester. Never shirked a challenge. Superb when it mattered. Rovers legend. Best of luck for the future big lad.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: drfchound on May 17, 2025, 06:02:36 pm
Wasn't Tom able to look for a new club due to his contract expiring.  If so, he (his agent) may well have negotiated this a month ago and just waited until his deal expired to reveal it.  He may also have negotiated a wage increase at Shrewsbury due to no fee being involved for his services..?
His deal doesn’t expire until 30th June

You can speak to clubs before it expires though.

I never said any different, I know how it works

 :)
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: selby on May 17, 2025, 07:03:11 pm
  Why would Anderson stay, he was offered one year and a years option most likely to be a bench warmer in a higher league on less money than he has been used to and most likely unless we got relegated next year the option not taken up.
  Contrast that with two years fixed contract where he will play games and a years option potentially two years on football wages and a potential third year. At 31 I would say that's a no brainer and the best of luck to the lad.
  Olowu, did teams come in for him in January when his stock was high? even in division1 there are a number of teams that will pay a lot more than us, and he has obviously had a conversation with a team that pay higher wages than ourselves, turning down a second offer, and that shows we tried to get away with it in the first place offering less than we were prepared to go to keep him.
  Contract talks in football always  make me think of spivs trying to skank spivs.
  Now we are in the position of looking for two players probably three to play in a higher division and whoever they are their agents will come through the door  thinking we are desperate and there to be taken.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 17, 2025, 07:08:40 pm
I thought he was offered 2 years + option of 1 year?
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Jonathan on May 17, 2025, 07:15:26 pm
I thought he was offered 2 years + option of 1 year?

He was according to the club.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Surrey Rover on May 17, 2025, 07:27:58 pm
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2025/may/16/anderson-to-leave-rovers-after-rejecting-new-deal/

Selby?
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Nudga on May 17, 2025, 07:39:45 pm
I've got a feeling Selby has been burned by the club recently. 
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: knockers on May 17, 2025, 07:59:13 pm
Mickey Walker has probably shagged his dog and got it pupped!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: IDM on May 17, 2025, 08:06:12 pm
  Why would Anderson stay, he was offered one year and a years option most likely to be a bench warmer in a higher league on less money than he has been used to and most likely unless we got relegated next year the option not taken up.
  Contrast that with two years fixed contract where he will play games and a years option potentially two years on football wages and a potential third year. At 31 I would say that's a no brainer and the best of luck to the lad.
  Olowu, did teams come in for him in January when his stock was high? even in division1 there are a number of teams that will pay a lot more than us, and he has obviously had a conversation with a team that pay higher wages than ourselves, turning down a second offer, and that shows we tried to get away with it in the first place offering less than we were prepared to go to keep him.
  Contract talks in football always  make me think of spivs trying to skank spivs.
  Now we are in the position of looking for two players probably three to play in a higher division and whoever they are their agents will come through the door  thinking we are desperate and there to be taken.

Desperate.?  In the middle of May.?

Pull the other one. 

For someone who gives the appearance of being in the know, you quote our offer to Anderson as a year short of what was published the other day.

You’re either a WUM or aren’t being fed the whole story by your “source”

Please could you come clean with how you know what you (claim to) know.?

As John Major once said, put up or shut up.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: ravenrover on May 17, 2025, 08:09:32 pm
Looking for 2  probably 3?
Is he saying  Faulkener is going?
You surely don't need to ask where his info from inside the club comes from do you or am I assuming too much?
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Belle_Vue on May 17, 2025, 08:15:17 pm
He knows Bobby isn't up to L1
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Jonathan on May 17, 2025, 08:20:30 pm
Personally hope Bobby stays and accelerates his development. But again the offer has to be realistic. We have a budget to work within and we certainly need to bring in 2 central defenders capable of playing at first team level.

From what others have said of Sam Stubbs, he sounds like one who would fit the bill given he’s out of contract.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: IDM on May 17, 2025, 08:39:47 pm
Looking for 2  probably 3?
Is he saying  Faulkener is going?
You surely don't need to ask where his info from inside the club comes from do you or am I assuming too much?

We can all guess maybe, but it’s for Selby to say.

Another point, would one player tell his team mates all his contract details?
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Goole Rover on May 17, 2025, 09:04:28 pm
Mickey Walker has probably shagged his dog and got it pupped!
Grow up man or maybe women, a gutter post.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Janso on May 17, 2025, 09:36:22 pm
Mickey Walker has probably shagged his dog and got it pupped!
Grow up man or maybe women, a gutter post.

Didn't realise the internet police force were on here. Stop wetting your bed cos someone said something a bit naughty. If you don't like it, scroll on by.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Scooter on May 17, 2025, 09:49:38 pm
I’ve been told that Tom felt it was a crap deal that he was offered.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Sven Vath on May 17, 2025, 09:53:31 pm
Mickey Walker has probably shagged his dog and got it pupped!
Grow up man or maybe women, a gutter post.

Didn't realise the internet police force were on here. Stop wetting your bed cos someone said something a bit naughty. If you don't like it, scroll on by.

Jesus Janso, you grown some b*llocks
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Nudga on May 17, 2025, 10:23:21 pm
I’ve been told that Tom felt it was a crap deal that he was offered.

Probably was, you're not gonna pay top dollar for a 31 year old bench warmer in lg1.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: selby on May 17, 2025, 11:20:13 pm
RavenRover, to stop that rumour I was told a couple of months ago Anderson's agent had contacted other clubs as at that time he said Anderson was not getting offered a contract for next season and therefore had every right to contact other clubs and nothing at all to do with Bobby Faulkner.
  The guy was a scout  for another division two side i know and bumped into at a home game at the Rovers.
  Anderson was not even playing that day nor was the player he had come to watch.
 the years contract with  a years option is speculation on my part as the normal contract for players coming to the end of their career at a club but might be needed short term.
  Have a go at me all you want it's like water off a ducks back, but don't try and [pin something on someone completely innocent and to my knowledge doesn't even come on here or any other forum and has been completely out of the loop at Buxton full time.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Michael Shaw on May 18, 2025, 08:19:51 am
Whatever the reason is for Tom leaving, I just wish him all the best for his future and he has been a great player for Rovers. We were a better team with him than without him.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: ravenrover on May 18, 2025, 08:31:45 am
OK Selby, I'll take your word for it, I did say was I assuming too much
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 18, 2025, 08:48:15 am
Looking for 2  probably 3?
Is he saying  Faulkener is going?
You surely don't need to ask where his info from inside the club comes from do you or am I assuming too much?

Olowu, Anderson and Wood all gone... There's your 3.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: ncRover on May 18, 2025, 08:58:51 am
I like Faulkner, but can’t expect him to be a serious option making the jump up 3 levels.

He needs an injury free season with regular game time to develop.

A loan like Harrogate would be good for all parties IMO. They’ll want to replace Jasper Moon. Bobby needs to consistently prove himself at the level below first.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 18, 2025, 09:04:18 am
Could happen, but I think a league club is not going to want a loan for a largely totally unproven player from a League Two soon to be League One club. They will from the Premier League but less likely their own level. If we could get Bobby a loan to a National League side, that would be a very good result. Given the work now needed to rebuild the central defence, we might not have the luxury to loan out Faulkner. If of course he does indeed sign a deal with us.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: ravenrover on May 18, 2025, 11:15:18 am
Looking for 2  probably 3?
Is he saying  Faulkener is going?
You surely don't need to ask where his info from inside the club comes from do you or am I assuming too much?

Olowu, Anderson and Wood all gone... There's your 3.
Perhaps
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Ryaldinhio on May 18, 2025, 11:35:26 am
Could happen, but I think a league club is not going to want a loan for a largely totally unproven player from a League Two soon to be League One club. They will from the Premier League but less likely their own level. If we could get Bobby a loan to a National League side, that would be a very good result. Given the work now needed to rebuild the central defence, we might not have the luxury to loan out Faulkner. If of course he does indeed sign a deal with us.

I've always been surprised we don't do more business with Scunny. Local enough not to uproot players and for our team to monitor them. A level or two down where they could get football. Plus the obvious rovers connections in the management team. Seems strange.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: selby on May 18, 2025, 04:11:42 pm
  Could go along with that NC Rover and National League are interested anyway but with a recall if needed, we are light on the left side centrally the main ones gone are really right side and Wood left side.
  We could do with a really good left side defender.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 18, 2025, 04:47:15 pm
The only cb currently contracted is left sided!
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: selby on May 18, 2025, 05:28:41 pm
Agreed Alan, and in division1 we need better and a back up.or decide Bailey is that man and McGrath as back up.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 18, 2025, 06:44:35 pm
Trouble with putting Bailey there, it disrupts two areas of the team, not just one. Fair enough if Bailey is going to be an emergency cover for cb, ok. But, equally, Faulkner could be deemed emergency cover also.

Personally, I think we need to acquire 2 decent cb’s who are more than good enough to have us, as Grant says, competing in this division and ‘not just making up the numbers’.

The task for Grant was big enough as it was, but now we’ve lost 3 cb’s, it just becomes a whole lot harder.

Keeper
CB x 2
DM
Winger/wing back
Striker

Hope Mr Brammall has a bit of leeway on the budget!

Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Ldr on May 18, 2025, 07:19:44 pm
I must admit to being torn on the Faulkner subject. A massive part of me wants him to prove himself and be a mainstay of our defence but I have to say there is a small part that wouldn't be over sad if he left just as it may mean Selby stops carping on constantly
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Ryaldinhio on May 18, 2025, 11:33:39 pm
Trouble with putting Bailey there, it disrupts two areas of the team, not just one. Fair enough if Bailey is going to be an emergency cover for cb, ok. But, equally, Faulkner could be deemed emergency cover also.

Personally, I think we need to acquire 2 decent cb’s who are more than good enough to have us, as Grant says, competing in this division and ‘not just making up the numbers’.

The task for Grant was big enough as it was, but now we’ve lost 3 cb’s, it just becomes a whole lot harder.

Keeper
CB x 2
DM
Winger/wing back
Striker

Hope Mr Brammall has a bit of leeway on the budget!

Bailey is a defender, he spent years there at Newcastle. Moved into midfield in amaetuer leagues. He moved to back due to injuries but stood out more than in midfield. It doesn't  disrupt two positions, it sures up one and frees up another. If we out him back to CB where Newcastle developed him for years then we will get a decade out of him.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: scawsby steve on May 19, 2025, 02:29:59 am
Trouble with putting Bailey there, it disrupts two areas of the team, not just one. Fair enough if Bailey is going to be an emergency cover for cb, ok. But, equally, Faulkner could be deemed emergency cover also.

Personally, I think we need to acquire 2 decent cb’s who are more than good enough to have us, as Grant says, competing in this division and ‘not just making up the numbers’.

The task for Grant was big enough as it was, but now we’ve lost 3 cb’s, it just becomes a whole lot harder.

Keeper
CB x 2
DM
Winger/wing back
Striker

Hope Mr Brammall has a bit of leeway on the budget!

Grant has already said, Alan, that we'll need 6 or 7 new players coming in.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Move DRFC on May 19, 2025, 03:27:37 am
Trouble with putting Bailey there, it disrupts two areas of the team, not just one. Fair enough if Bailey is going to be an emergency cover for cb, ok. But, equally, Faulkner could be deemed emergency cover also.

Personally, I think we need to acquire 2 decent cb’s who are more than good enough to have us, as Grant says, competing in this division and ‘not just making up the numbers’.

The task for Grant was big enough as it was, but now we’ve lost 3 cb’s, it just becomes a whole lot harder.

Keeper
CB x 2
DM
Winger/wing back
Striker

Hope Mr Brammall has a bit of leeway on the budget!

Bailey is a defender, he spent years there at Newcastle. Moved into midfield in amaetuer leagues. He moved to back due to injuries but stood out more than in midfield. It doesn't  disrupt two positions, it sures up one and frees up another. If we out him back to CB where Newcastle developed him for years then we will get a decade out of him.

Bailey ceiling at centre back is much higher than what it is at centre mid in my opinion. Should be starting at the back for me. Also massively helps us build attacks down the right with Sterry and Mols.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: scawsby steve on May 19, 2025, 06:46:32 pm
I think Owen is an excellent CB. That's his natural position for me.
Title: Re: Tom Anderson leaves
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 19, 2025, 07:08:59 pm
Scawsby:

Quote
Grant has already said, Alan, that we'll need 6 or 7 new players coming in.

Yes, I realise that, but he said that before Anderson decided to leave. Surely, then, it’s now become 7/8 new players coming in? The question I keep pondering is ‘can we afford it?’

Out of the 7 there’s a high probability that 3/4 of them will be loans, leaving 3 or 4 players on contracts. Obviously, we’ve got 1 contracted new boy already.

The loans I can see being keeper, striker and midfielder. So, we need 3 more contracted and 2 of them will be cb’s. Leaving room for 1 winger.

That’s before we know about Sharp, Lawlor and Faulkner.