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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Usher wide. on June 18, 2025, 08:46:59 am
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I know it’s ‘old news’ but what a shocking decision.
They only lost out on automatic promotion because Burnley & Leeds got 100 points. The play off final was a ‘bizarre’ result.
The Blades have only one season left of parachute payments then I fancy mid-table mediocrity in the Championship for them.
Dyche rumoured to be on their list of possible replacements.
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Ruben Selles getting the job I think.
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I wouldn’t call it “old news”, I don’t think they’ve officially announced it yet?
But as the OP suggests, it’s harsh on Wilder considering the Blades gained 92 points during last season after he inherited a squad of habitual losers.
Apparently the owners want to start using AI to recruit new players, whereas Wilder is more in the ‘Ay Up’ school.
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Getting rid of a good manager for no real reason, but then there is no reason in club owners nowadays.
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Football in Sheffield is not in a good place at the moment, can’t see Rohl staying at Wendies
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Now if the Blades had appointed Rohl that would have been very amusing.
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Razor Ruddock as coach
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Struggling to have any sympathy for Wilder, he’s an absolute arsehole.
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It's also crazy how some of there fans talk about him with utter contempt, after all he's done for them
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Sacking Wilder for Selles seems like a sideways step at best. However Wednesday are outdoing them in the basket case stakes at the minute.
Players unpaid, manager desperate to leave, training pitches half renovated but without clear evidence of funds to finish the job, north stand at Hillsborough on the verge of being condemned, Owls in the park festival cancelled, and no match day revenue for another month plus. The transfer fee embargo hitting today is the least of their worries.
Someone will step in and save them at some point but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better for them. It's not the players who are the real victims though, it's the club staff who will be on 20-30k a year who will up shit creek.
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Struggling to have any sympathy for Wilder, he’s an absolute arsehole.
He's not my favourite either Jonathan!
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Sacking Wilder for Selles seems like a sideways step at best. However Wednesday are outdoing them in the basket case stakes at the minute.
Players unpaid, manager desperate to leave, training pitches half renovated but without clear evidence of funds to finish the job, north stand at Hillsborough on the verge of being condemned, Owls in the park festival cancelled, and no match day revenue for another month plus. The transfer fee embargo hitting today is the least of their worries.
Someone will step in and save them at some point but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better for them. It's not the players who are the real victims though, it's the club staff who will be on 20-30k a year who will up shit creek.
Selles is a real high class operator.
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My money is on Steve Bracknall
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Sacking Wilder for Selles seems like a sideways step at best. However Wednesday are outdoing them in the basket case stakes at the minute.
Players unpaid, manager desperate to leave, training pitches half renovated but without clear evidence of funds to finish the job, north stand at Hillsborough on the verge of being condemned, Owls in the park festival cancelled, and no match day revenue for another month plus. The transfer fee embargo hitting today is the least of their worries.
Someone will step in and save them at some point but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better for them. It's not the players who are the real victims though, it's the club staff who will be on 20-30k a year who will up shit creek.
Selles is a real high class operator.
Selles will not get Sheff Utd into the Premiership.
He wouldn’t appreciate the gulf between the two divisions or what it takes to build a side to compete in the Championship in my opinion.
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Struggling to have any sympathy for Wilder, he’s an absolute arsehole.
Yes he is Jonathan and is his own worst enemy. I think his indiscreet actions, especially his overboard criticism of the Wendies did him no good at all. That said you look at his record and it surely won’t take him long to get another job.
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Don't care aslong as it's not Grant!
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Sacking Wilder for Selles seems like a sideways step at best. However Wednesday are outdoing them in the basket case stakes at the minute.
Players unpaid, manager desperate to leave, training pitches half renovated but without clear evidence of funds to finish the job, north stand at Hillsborough on the verge of being condemned, Owls in the park festival cancelled, and no match day revenue for another month plus. The transfer fee embargo hitting today is the least of their worries.
Someone will step in and save them at some point but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better for them. It's not the players who are the real victims though, it's the club staff who will be on 20-30k a year who will up shit creek.
Selles is a real high class operator.
Selles will not get Sheff Utd into the Premiership.
He wouldn’t appreciate the gulf between the two divisions or what it takes to build a side to compete in the Championship in my opinion.
He has worked in England long enough to understand what’s required.
Wilder wasn’t sacked because he’s useless, he was sacked because his methods didn’t align with how the owners want to operate.
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Sacking Wilder for Selles seems like a sideways step at best. However Wednesday are outdoing them in the basket case stakes at the minute.
Players unpaid, manager desperate to leave, training pitches half renovated but without clear evidence of funds to finish the job, north stand at Hillsborough on the verge of being condemned, Owls in the park festival cancelled, and no match day revenue for another month plus. The transfer fee embargo hitting today is the least of their worries.
Someone will step in and save them at some point but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better for them. It's not the players who are the real victims though, it's the club staff who will be on 20-30k a year who will up shit creek.
Selles is a real high class operator.
Selles will not get Sheff Utd into the Premiership.
He wouldn’t appreciate the gulf between the two divisions or what it takes to build a side to compete in the Championship in my opinion.
He has worked in England long enough to understand what’s required.
Wilder wasn’t sacked because he’s useless, he was sacked because his methods didn’t align with how the owners want to operate.
Not unlike Sean O’Driscoll when he refused to embrace ‘the experiment’.
Let’s see how this one pans out.
I’ve stated my views.
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Wilder un-sacked after just a couple of months. Surreal situation over there.
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Sacking Wilder for Selles seems like a sideways step at best. However Wednesday are outdoing them in the basket case stakes at the minute.
Players unpaid, manager desperate to leave, training pitches half renovated but without clear evidence of funds to finish the job, north stand at Hillsborough on the verge of being condemned, Owls in the park festival cancelled, and no match day revenue for another month plus. The transfer fee embargo hitting today is the least of their worries.
Someone will step in and save them at some point but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better for them. It's not the players who are the real victims though, it's the club staff who will be on 20-30k a year who will up shit creek.
Selles is a real high class operator.
Selles will not get Sheff Utd into the Premiership.
He wouldn’t appreciate the gulf between the two divisions or what it takes to build a side to compete in the Championship in my opinion.
He has worked in England long enough to understand what’s required.
Wilder wasn’t sacked because he’s useless, he was sacked because his methods didn’t align with how the owners want to operate.
Not unlike Sean O’Driscoll when he refused to embrace ‘the experiment’.
Let’s see how this one pans out.
I’ve stated my views.
I rest my case.
‘Oracle’ it is then.
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The club are becoming another basket case!
But who cares, as long as Grant is not in their thoughts.
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Wonder how much Blades paid Wilder to pay off his contract when they sacked him? And if I was him I'd be demanding a higher salary if they now want him to go back there. Good 3 months for Mr Wilder...!
BobG
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I'd imagine he's still being paid by Blades after his contract was terminated. Nice little sabbatical for him.
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Speaking to a Sheff U fan and Billys name is being tipped for a coaching role along side Wilder.
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Such a good choice by the chairman, perhaps he ought to think about his own decisions and what it has cost United.
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Speaking to a Sheff U fan and Billys name is being tipped for a coaching role along side Wilder.
Has Billy got his coaching badges ?
Would we ask for a transfer fee ?
Would he want to end his playing career ?
Also I if Chris Wilder does go back, which seems very likely, he’ll no doubt take Alan Knill with him as head coach/assistant manager and keep the coaching staff that is already there as he’ll have worked with most of them, including Gary McSheffrey
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Speaking to a Sheff U fan and Billys name is being tipped for a coaching role along side Wilder.
Has Billy got his coaching badges ?
Would we ask for a transfer fee ?
Would he want to end his playing career ?
Also I if Chris Wilder does go back, which seems very likely, he’ll no doubt take Alan Knill with him as head coach/assistant manager and keep the coaching staff that is already there as he’ll have worked with most of them, including Gary McSheffrey
Billy is at the beginning of his coaching badges journey.
The way he is playing I would be astonished if he gave it all up just yet.
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Billy actually spoke about this on five live with Colin Murray on a Sunday morning a few weeks back. He didn't rule it out, but said he is enjoying playing for now.
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Is it too early to start the Wilder out campaign?
COYR
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Now back in charge lol, at least they realised they made a mistake and fixed it.
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Surely no chance Billy hanging up his playing boots yet, been fantastic this season, so far. That glancing header on Saturday was close, & defending our box from corners too....
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Billy next season I reckon? Also can't blame him can you??
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Billy next season I reckon? Also can't blame him can you??
No way Jose.
If not Wilder they’ll go for what the board believes to be the ‘biggest profile’ manager they can get.
Why, because they’re a group of ‘I want Premiership Football’ yesterday no all, no nothing’s.
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Billy has gone from a 2nd choice bit part player in League Two to the main man playing 90 mins regularly in League One. We know he thrives in the bigger games/grounds. He ain't leaving that for a coaching role
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Billy has gone from a 2nd choice bit part player in League Two to the main man playing 90 mins regularly in League One. We know he thrives in the bigger games/grounds. He ain't leaving that for a coaching role
I think the first part of your post sums up where our issues are going to come from this season.
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Ruben Sellés must be going for some kind of short stay record. Don’t think he’s lasted more than 6 months in charge of any of his clubs. Must have some agent.
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How long was he at Dull City? That feels like his longest stint.
BobG
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How long was he at Dull City? That feels like his longest stint.
BobG
I think his time at Reading was his longest spell. I could be wrong though, not checked.
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Ruben Sellés must be going for some kind of short stay record. Don’t think he’s lasted more than 6 months in charge of any of his clubs. Must have some agent.
No. Apparently he’s a ‘real high class operator’.
Bit like a crane driver.
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How long was he at Dull City? That feels like his longest stint.
BobG
December ‘24 to May ‘25.(source Wiki)
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How long was he at Dull City? That feels like his longest stint.
BobG
I think his time at Reading was his longest spell. I could be wrong though, not checked.
Joined July ‘23 then hopped it to Hull in December 24 (Wiki)
Seemed to do ok at Reading but an absolute mess elsewhere.
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Gary McSheffrey to be promoted to 1st team coach by Wilder apparently
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Gary McSheffrey is no mug. We lost a good'un when he left.
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Very much a players coach who was here when everything backing the first team at the time was wrong. he was a pleasure to watch working with the u18s, a team who because of Covid never had a chance with some good players that could have done well.
The coaching side of the academy under Tony Cook and the quality of the coaches were up there with the best at that time and we competed well with a lot of clubs that had much more going for them at that time and were strong throughout most of the age groups.
Right person wrong time, and a very nice person off the field of play.
That is not taking away anything form our present set up by the way who are just as committed and good coaches and work very hard to get the best out of the lads here, and fortunately for them have more backing from above and interest in how things are going. We were a ship wreck of a club at that time.
Despite all that going off he was a big influence in Bobby Faulkner, Will Flint, and Sam Brown, Max Adamson in Australia and Jack Goodman pushing on when a lot here and at other clubs struggled with the situation of football being suspended,
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Let himself be talked into a job he should never have taken at the time
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We had a deputy Chairman who ran the show and no interest if things didn't have four legs, the FA cut money we were budgeted for when Sunderland and Null City were given money other clubs including ourselves were promised it amounting to putting clubs on the brink to save two who had been in the Premiership.
And inherited a shit show from Moore that the two previous managers struggled to overcome.
Ironic that all three have had success since, Wellens especially and Butler both getting promotions on their CV and now Gary getting a plum assistants job because of the players he has already steered through from the u21s to first team football at Sheffield United.
We really did have some right no marks in Blunt, and the ID recruitment who anyone on the terraces would have been better job in positions that could do so much damage and reflect on other people.
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We had a deputy Chairman who ran the show anf no intr=erest if things didn't have four legs, the FA cut money we were budgeted for when Sunderland and Null City were given money other clubs including ourselves were promised it amounting to putting clubs on the brink to save two who had been in the Premiership.
And inherited a shit show from Moore that the two previous managers struggled to overcome.
Ironic that all three have had success since, Wellens especially and Butler both getting promotions on their CV and now Gary getting a plum assistants job because of the players he has already steered through from the u21s to first team football at Sheffield United.
We really did have some right no marks in Blunt, and the ID recruitment idiot in positions that could do so much damage and reflect on other people.
Your analysis may not be perfect and of course from where we are, we don’t have the inside knowledge, but it is pretty stark and you have to question the man who was at the top. It was a pity that the CEO, at what turned out to be an extended period of decline, decided (or was he instructed?) to concentrate on Club Doncaster when he was desperately needed to keep the football side on track. It was also regrettable that there was reluctance to publicly acknowledge the difficulties at the time; the denials were hollow.